Interesting you have the Free robbing the curl to the passing strength. So that would make the Strong Safety merely a flat player then, not a curl-flat player. Thanks for all the new videos!
Yeah, Strong Safety is much more conscious of the flats. In theory, he's going to be responsible for a quick hitch or speed out when the corner makes the CHINA call. Corner will continue to sink
Joe Daniel Football we are facing a navy wing t this week and we installed the robber and worked the wheel and post routes to the strong side. We are a normal 3-5-3 team. I have my free safety spying their best receiver with another safety playing deep middle.
6:30 if the Z were to run the vertical and the Y were to run a deep corner, is the FS responsible for trying to cover that deep corner from inside leverage? Or is the CB supposed to stay over the top of both routes and try to make a play?
Corner would lock on the vertical by Z and the corner route is the responsibility of the FS, yes. It is a variation of a common quarters beater, the bench or sideline concept using a vertical by #1 and out by #2. Using a corner instead, the #1 receiver has to be fast enough to blow the top off so there's room underneath or you end up with two receivers in the same zone. Then the ball can be played by both defenders. You also have to throw the ball over the Strong Safety defending the flat. You can also do the exact same thing the other way, with #2 running a vertical and #1 running a post, which is a little easier throw.
Based on his reads it seems like the FS has to be the stud here. Normally the corners are the most stressed (seams) in a cover 2 invert, wouldn’t you agree? When this fails, is it due to the FS getting beat? Or what do you find being the coverage weakness?
I guess if you were in a true C2 invert the corners would be stressed, but in quarters the safeties will carry the verticals of 2. The Free Safety just has to learn to be patient. It's not easy but he's actually unblocked in the run game a lot, and the strong safety has the force. Flats are your biggest weakness, particularly the weak side flat - and the weak safety is in the biggest bind against 10 and 11 personnel (we didn't look at the weak or away side). The strong side is very... well, strong... in this defense.
TY for your fast answer coach - We are actually a 43 classical defense (the 3 LB over gaps B/A/C) but I study this interesting 425 (strangely for to stop the run on those new spread offenses). The point is we are also often attacked in the flats ... That's why our coaches want to stay in 43 because they can quickly change from cover 4 to cover 2 to stop those numerous short passes into the flat with the help of our CBs.
The point with this 425 is also the strong side DE position ... Playing 6 tech or even inside the C gap ... WOW ... Another universe for our DE who are used to play mostly always outside the last offensive lineman!
Interesting you have the Free robbing the curl to the passing strength. So that would make the Strong Safety merely a flat player then, not a curl-flat player.
Thanks for all the new videos!
Yeah, Strong Safety is much more conscious of the flats. In theory, he's going to be responsible for a quick hitch or speed out when the corner makes the CHINA call. Corner will continue to sink
Joe Daniel Football we are facing a navy wing t this week and we installed the robber and worked the wheel and post routes to the strong side. We are a normal 3-5-3 team. I have my free safety spying their best receiver with another safety playing deep middle.
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6:30 if the Z were to run the vertical and the Y were to run a deep corner, is the FS responsible for trying to cover that deep corner from inside leverage? Or is the CB supposed to stay over the top of both routes and try to make a play?
Corner would lock on the vertical by Z and the corner route is the responsibility of the FS, yes. It is a variation of a common quarters beater, the bench or sideline concept using a vertical by #1 and out by #2. Using a corner instead, the #1 receiver has to be fast enough to blow the top off so there's room underneath or you end up with two receivers in the same zone. Then the ball can be played by both defenders. You also have to throw the ball over the Strong Safety defending the flat. You can also do the exact same thing the other way, with #2 running a vertical and #1 running a post, which is a little easier throw.
Based on his reads it seems like the FS has to be the stud here. Normally the corners are the most stressed (seams) in a cover 2 invert, wouldn’t you agree? When this fails, is it due to the FS getting beat? Or what do you find being the coverage weakness?
I guess if you were in a true C2 invert the corners would be stressed, but in quarters the safeties will carry the verticals of 2. The Free Safety just has to learn to be patient. It's not easy but he's actually unblocked in the run game a lot, and the strong safety has the force. Flats are your biggest weakness, particularly the weak side flat - and the weak safety is in the biggest bind against 10 and 11 personnel (we didn't look at the weak or away side). The strong side is very... well, strong... in this defense.
Yes the weak side flat seems hard to protect here isn't it? But no defense can protect against everything ...
That's exactly it. If they're hurting you in the flat you can make some kind of trap call and jump it.
TY for your fast answer coach - We are actually a 43 classical defense (the 3 LB over gaps B/A/C) but I study this interesting 425 (strangely for to stop the run on those new spread offenses). The point is we are also often attacked in the flats ... That's why our coaches want to stay in 43 because they can quickly change from cover 4 to cover 2 to stop those numerous short passes into the flat with the help of our CBs.
The point with this 425 is also the strong side DE position ... Playing 6 tech or even inside the C gap ... WOW ... Another universe for our DE who are used to play mostly always outside the last offensive lineman!
Prehistoric formation..not going to see that
It's used as a starting point for teaching.
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