Why THE EXORCIST: BELIEVER Became the Most HATED Horror Movie of 2023

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    Creating a sequel to arguably the most iconic horror movie ever made is a daunting and questionable task, but it's one that Universal made when it acquired the right to The Exorcist and went about giving the franchise the requel treatment. With the very controversial David Gordon Green at the helm after his Halloween trilogy divided fans, The Exorcist: Believer became one of the most hated movies to release in 2023, and today we're taking a deep dive into the movie and going over why it simply doesn't work. Blumhouse is having a rough go at the moment...
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  • @portiamaree8637
    @portiamaree8637 5 місяців тому +126

    "Two men died to save my daughter but that's just the patriarchy"

  • @frank3508
    @frank3508 7 місяців тому +28

    When l saw The Exorcist, l came away knowing that, after tremendous suffering and great sacrifice, evil was defeated, good was triumphant, and faith and hope prevailed and were restored.
    And after seeing The Exorcist: Believer, l came away feeling that, after tremendous suffering and great sacrifice, good was weak and defeated, evil was triumphant, and faith and hope were crushed and destroyed.

  • @benhaynes4409
    @benhaynes4409 6 місяців тому +80

    I'm a mother and my daughter was in a horrific accident, internal bleeding, she was dying! I rushed her to E.R and 2 male surgeons took her in straight away and with their quick work saved her life! I wasn't allowed in the surgery while the operation was happening, because I'm not a member of the damn patriarchy

    • @Fleato
      @Fleato 4 місяці тому +2

      definitely is a valid example of hating a wokism for sure.

    • @minilea144
      @minilea144 4 місяці тому

      Sure, Jan. That's why.

    • @wilfredoanunezpacheco5367
      @wilfredoanunezpacheco5367 4 місяці тому +5

      @@FleatoYou must be one of those that hates the word woke and doesn’t t even know what it means nor what it stands for. Try having an original thought once in a while.

    • @MovieHeretic
      @MovieHeretic 2 місяці тому +5

      But you could have perform the operation yourself, because training and understanding what you are doing is apparently not a thing in Gordon's universe.

    • @benhaynes4409
      @benhaynes4409 2 місяці тому +3

      @@MovieHeretic oh yeah good point 😀

  • @DankrumStar
    @DankrumStar 7 місяців тому +14

    I wished they spent more time with the slow burn of them being possessed. From the time they were found to the time they were obviously possessed was far too quick. The child actors were the best part of the movie and the creepiness of “realizing something is wrong” should have been played out for a lot longer.
    Great video!

  • @luizhenriquefigueira8476
    @luizhenriquefigueira8476 7 місяців тому +15

    The Exorcist II was only slightly worse than Believer. If they want to have any chance at recovering for Deceiver, however small that chance may be, they'll have to replace DGG. That guy sucks. It's like he never watched the original Exorcist. And shame on Ellen Burstyn for accepting this crap.

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому +8

      I wouldn't say shame on Ellen. She declined over and over again but eventually accepted to fund a passion project of hers.

    • @mremerald8586
      @mremerald8586 2 місяці тому +1

      Hire me

    • @aryandguy
      @aryandguy 25 днів тому

      @@mremerald8586 what idea do you got?

    • @mremerald8586
      @mremerald8586 24 дні тому

      @@aryandguy I was going to do this tomorrow cause 1:11am I’ll have nightmares but I’ll help me paint better. Ummmmmm we they fucked up the old OG characters. So I say along the lines of original demon that got cast out, with some kind of bloodline to Regan cause she was back for the last one just to salvage that shit show. Plus she was old so who knows how many people she fucked and her kids fucked and etc. CGI is great nowadays so a good storyline with no bullshit, lore from the lesser and greater keys of Solomon, Dante’s inferno and with that history make a good last one. The deceiver, one of the fallen angels themselves, Regan says take me instead like halfway through the movie, then action. Like a two part movie, non stop action with a story that makes sense biblically, better camera work too. I’m drunk I’ll be back later to edit this

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 7 місяців тому +17

    I absolutely agree with you, 100%, about that stupid throwaway line which added nothing to the plot (in fact, I agree with you on every part of your critique of this movie). The line which was shoehorned into Chris MacNeil's mouth only to come tumbling out like a 10 lb. lead weight, thudding on the tabletop beneath her face with no actual resonance within the story. It was the worst kind of bad, clunky, wannabe-clever-and-observational-and-oh-so-very-relevant writing.
    Dammit, I'm a writer myself, I know these things! 🤣

    • @ericnierstedt6242
      @ericnierstedt6242 7 місяців тому +2

      100% agree. I'm a writer myself, and I can't believe how lazy writing like this gets made into a film.

    • @Lovegun.
      @Lovegun. Місяць тому

      That had nothing to do with bad writing and everything to do with politicizing the movie and being 'trendy'.....ie....weak.

  • @jeef0322
    @jeef0322 6 місяців тому +4

    I love how much care and thought you put into reviewing horror movies. I was so surprised that you don’t have more subscribers with your production too. You deserve more subscribers!

  • @hackett152332
    @hackett152332 7 місяців тому +7

    The exorcist 3 is amazing

  • @ericnierstedt6242
    @ericnierstedt6242 7 місяців тому +4

    When I first saw the trailers, I immediately rolled my eyes when I saw it was now TWO possessed girls. It just seemed like a cheap attempt to squeeze more horror out while doing the same thing twice. And I don't know if it's Green or the studio doing it, but they seem to keep chasing the formula they had with Halloween (ignore sequels, bring back lead, repeat) and not giving much though anywhere else. I agree, there were good ideas and performances here, but nobody gave it enough thought or time to make it work.
    And I agree, whatever good the term 'woke' was originally intended for has been lost because of everyone misunderstanding and overusing it. This is just another example of lazy writing and trying reach for an audience that doesn't exist or doesn't want to see the movie anyway.

  • @mjslawrence9554
    @mjslawrence9554 2 місяці тому +1

    Handing the keys over to DGG for this franchise after his Halloween trilogy was received so poorly will never make sense to me

  • @cabinessence_timely_hello
    @cabinessence_timely_hello 7 місяців тому +5

    Just discovered your channel bc of this video, and looking at your instagram and the history of Rocklin Graves and your dad made me almost shed a tear. I love all *aboot* horror films and you're just too good, hope you grow fast.

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому +2

      Thank you very much. I really appreciate you saying that

  • @paulpouliot9355
    @paulpouliot9355 2 місяці тому +2

    This movie is garbage! My wife and I were utterly appalled by the factor that a child should be dragged to hell for any decisions forced upon by the parents by demons! Bullshit! That makes God uncaring!
    Please, someone, keep Green and Mcbride away from making ANY movies!!!

  • @faithphillips6968
    @faithphillips6968 9 днів тому

    I feel like if they had split this movie into the trilogy they could’ve better executed what they wanted to with this one.
    Exorcist Believer: More time in the beginning to really set up Victor and Angelas relationship. Then give us more time to set up Catherine and Angela as well. Midway through or so, they go into the woods and do the seance. They go missing, and are found the same way, but instead Angela is presenting as “more possessed” than Catherine. The rest of the movie focuses on Angela getting worse, Victor looking for a solution, and putting angela into the hospital. It ends with him going to look for Chris McNeal.
    Exorcist: Deceiver- Starts in the morning of the day the girls go missing, actually setting up Catherines relationships and family dynamic, speed up them looking and the girls being found. Make it take longer for Catherine to show signs, then do the church scene maybe the next sunday or so. Because catherines religious family is being “deceived” by the demon. That movie ends with the scenes prior to Catherines house being wrecked right before Victor and Chris show up.
    The third one: Jumping right from where we left off, cut the scene that destroyes Chris’ character and open with her and Victor showing up to Catherines house. And then extend and add to- the final act of the movie as is. Boom, trilogy, reveals that 2 are possessed instead of 1, sets up the relationships ect. Just my thoughts though.

  • @robotrix
    @robotrix 6 місяців тому +2

    Watched the original and still can't find the bit where Chris asked to be in the room during the exorcism.
    And I remember the book very well.
    Green is an idiot.

  • @johnnysparkle
    @johnnysparkle Місяць тому

    Film critic Ed Whitfield wrote on social media stating, "William Friedkin once said to me, 'Ed, the guy who made those new Halloween sequels is about to make one to my movie. The Exorcist. That's right, my signature film is about to be extended by the man who made Pineapple Express. I don't want to be around went that happens. But if there's a spirit world, and I can come back, I plan to possess David Gordon Green and make his life a living hell.'" Friedkin's own statements on the film at least support something along these lines, with him thoroughly debunking claims that he would be involved with Believer's production out of a fundamental aversion to it.

  • @Two_maligators
    @Two_maligators 3 місяці тому

    Worst parts of the new exorcist:
    -“The patriarchy”
    -“The body and the blood” scene(idiotic)
    -The rotten pumpkin scene (wouldn’t have been scary in the ‘80’s)
    -“I’m not an exorcist” (immediately performs an exorcism).
    -“I live….in the name of Jesus” (when in reality she quit nun school and became a nurse?)
    -“It’s going to take all of them” (assemble the Marvel superhero team)
    -The vapor leaving the girls (just….what?)
    And so much more 😂

  • @tiphanieseantay958
    @tiphanieseantay958 7 місяців тому +3

    Great video.DGG should stick to comedy he wasn’t the guy for this OR Halloween. Neither were his friends as writers.

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому

      I LOVED the Halloween trilogy honestly, but I get why most people didn't

  • @iska788
    @iska788 7 місяців тому +3

    Such a joy to see a new video of yours ! Keep it going and much success !

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird 7 місяців тому +2

    I'm fed up of legacy characters being miserable failures just so they can go through an arc. It's the same set up and pay off, all the time. Only time it's worked - to my mind - was Deckard in Blade Runner 2049, because it's not like that character walked off into the sunset (depending on which version you watch of course). There was no reason for Chris MacNeil to be a sell out loser just so we can have her reunite with Regan. It's cheap as shit!

  • @y3ee3e
    @y3ee3e 7 місяців тому +3

    boring movie...but that pastor neck twist was great. genuine scare

  • @sillyvance2202
    @sillyvance2202 25 днів тому

    All the noise about this film was super negative, so it's refreshing to hear you eloquently review it...I agree completely with you & appreciate your channel even more now ❤

  • @DeidreL9
    @DeidreL9 7 місяців тому +1

    Did you watch the Exorcist tv show with Geena Davis? I thought it was a fantastic sequel, much better than the films have turned out. I haven’t seen the film you’re covering today but I have seen bits of it and I think it’s just gone too…complicated. The original had a smallish cast, with a lot of silence, a lot of emotion and breathing space to really feel what you’re seeing. The new one looks to me like a similar idea but with a lot more money and a “make it look big now” mission. And as you said, it looks safe. It looks less emotionally involving. Not sure I want to watch it but I’ve enjoyed finding out about it, thank you!

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому +1

      I saw the first season YEARS ago but never finished it. Might be time to take a look...

    • @DeidreL9
      @DeidreL9 7 місяців тому +1

      @@RocklinGraves I only watched the episodes with Geena, but I thought it had a lot of potential for interesting stories to continue the thread. I’d love to see what Ari Aster would do with it🤔

  • @sgfredbear8114
    @sgfredbear8114 4 місяці тому

    To be fair, the only thing that I Like about Believer, is that the movie had a good imagery. The way they framed some scene, is haunting and beautiful specially at the exorcist scene, the picture composition was Immaculate. But yeah, the story is too one sided when the story of two family struggles is quite interesting, they could frame the story based on that. As disbelief Angela father is he was truthfull, and they can make Catherine family in an disbelief as religious as they are. With what Cathrine father implies by his mistakes, it could make the story more interesting, he could be unfaithful to his family. It also brings a lot about faith, not just religious faith, but a family faith for one another. And it would make the punch at the end more impact full.
    But yeah, the movie just only try to be a Requel. It was mouthful with preach over preach, monologue over monologue, it said so much but it said too much that it really hollow. It's like the movie just based out of ego.

  • @JoeGrizz1y
    @JoeGrizz1y 5 місяців тому

    The exorcist is such a property that should produce easy home runs. All the work comes in how creatively you tell the demonic sequences and if you can execute themes great. This movie didn’t even have to be better than the original or attempt. Everyone knows that is not gonna happen. So to force it and get dished by the studio is dumb.

  • @hannahbrown187
    @hannahbrown187 4 місяці тому

    This was such a huge disappointment but I am SO hype for The Exorcist to get the Flanagan treatment, I can’t even be *cautiously* optimistic

  • @MadHatter123456
    @MadHatter123456 7 місяців тому +1

    Very well scripted and presented! I also strongly agree with your take on this movie - subscribed!
    Now I'm going to watch the mentioned review of The Exorcist 😊

  • @PRHILL9696
    @PRHILL9696 4 місяці тому +1

    David Gordon Greene should never ever do horror!!!

  • @DoroteoVilla
    @DoroteoVilla Місяць тому

    Nefarious was the best demon possession movie since The Exorcist.

  • @alucardlennox2010
    @alucardlennox2010 4 місяці тому

    I have seen both The Exorcist and Believer and I think they're both good films. (I've seen the original 5 years ago and rewatched it before watching believer)

  • @pazuzuuuuuu
    @pazuzuuuuuu 3 місяці тому

    Slow burn build up with the girls' possession? I didn't feel that at all, and i dont think the dialogue when they are possessed is anything particularly great either.
    It doesn't help that hollywood still can't get anywhere near the amazing voice work of the original
    The issue with making this a franchise is that once you've been through the original, where do you go? Anytime you go for a possessed girl, with similar makeup, you're going to draw an even bigger parallel with the original and not many films can go up against that level. Exorcist 3 went about it the correct way and its why its considered the best of the sequels.

  • @milkweedreflections
    @milkweedreflections 7 місяців тому +1

    Another great video . Loving this channel rn. Hope you blow up dude.

  • @OrphanCrippler1
    @OrphanCrippler1 6 місяців тому

    I like how basically all white people in the movie are bad or unlikeable, and the knly black family are the most laid back, likeable dad and daughter of all time lol. Very subtle, Hollywood!

  • @trexxy9628
    @trexxy9628 6 місяців тому

    The Original Exorcist benefitted from the writing of Blatty - but also the gray area of “is it real?”when it comes to the possession
    Where in every sequel and subsequent exorcism film- we know the possession is real.
    I won’t hate on Believer- I just wish it could have been the film I saw glimmers of. The original was a slow creep. Modern horror is fast-faced and is in debt for it.
    I loved some of the creepy lines from the girls, they were break-outs.
    Ellen was wasted and “the line” was… yes.. an insult. Had she delved and said I wasn’t allowed in because “ I was not an exorcist, and In spite of Karen’s saying that I knew as much about possession as most priests, he spared me the sight”… and the Having Chris study and delve out of revenge of her ignorance of the topic. More on-character and true to story

  • @bwestbrook90
    @bwestbrook90 4 місяці тому

    You can’t have an effective exorcist movie when the foundation of the franchise(the Christian faith) is excluded. There’s no wonder why it failed

  • @masterseal0418
    @masterseal0418 4 місяці тому

    Believer felt like those terrible Exorcist ripoffs that cashed in on the first movie's success. Except it's a part of the same dead franchise. When the time comes for me to review this film, I'll need to binge the first three Exorcist installments prior(excluding the prequel duology, since they're saved for another day). It doesn't matter if I watch The Heretic as well; aka the sequel that wasted the talents of Linda Blair and the great James Earl Jones to name a few. At least Believer isn't worse than that trashfire, and I'd prefer Leslie Odom Jr in the movie over Music(2021), cuz Sia's first and only directorial outing is so bad, it's offensive, even as someone who's autistic, a fan of music in general, and a cinephile.
    I do appreciate Believer for changing up the original's formula by having another Mesopotamian/Sumerian/Akkadian demon possessing our two girls, that being Lamashtu. A stark contrast from Pazuzu, who was initally a wind deity with his appearance comprising of a dog's head, bird talons for arms and legs, angelic wings, a scorpion tail, and serpentine penis(Devil May Cry 3's Beowulf was influenced from Pazuzu, design-wise, but without the multi-headed genitals). Lamashtu was akin to Buddhism's Rakshasas or Mananangaals, as she devours the flesh of newborn babies, with her being the complete opposite of Ishtar(aka Astarte), who is the goddess of fertility and love. But I agree the child actresses did a fantastic and sometimes realistic performance as the possessed girls despite Believer's bad writing, and the makeup was solid enough. However, the choice of bringing Ellen Burstyn into one scene and that's it compared to Linda Blair, who was used for the unnecessary sequel hook. The only reason was her funding to a university. Yes, really. Look it up. It's nostalgia-bait incarnate.

  • @chrislawson1988
    @chrislawson1988 4 місяці тому

    Believer was great movie I watched it three times in a row even watched it alongside the original of course it's shorter so I watched it almost two times as the original playing but that just pointed to how confused and tight it was compared to original this got right into it its tight storyline we see what we have to wrap it up no questions left over vs original that limes to show extra stuff and not show some stuff like you have to show Marion finding the statue and light head thing but not say hey how'd that little head thing got to the staircase so cop finds it did someone else have one and dropped it there or did it teleport from Egypt lol did they unleashed the demon opening that stuff seems like it or not introduced the mother of Damien what's she do she's sleeping in chair then locked up by her brother and blamed by his mother when he's trying to get her out why you blaming him he didn't lock you up lol lots of questions throughout believer no questions and actually had some creepy moments original was hilarious one jump scare at beginning but once she gets possessed she does and says the funniest stuff when she initially started acting weird and sitting in that chair I was like this is how Michael myers was like before he killed his sister then she starts spitting out the one liners nope this is too hilarious Michael would never do none of this lol even Michael would be like wtf is up with her and he's pure evil lol believer is similar to scream its self aware that's why it goes right to must possession because we've seen stuff like this back in original not seen as much plus they so skeptical it must be mental illness the parents in believer is smarter than the doctors in original oh the bed is moving it must be her brain she's slugging people like a boxer and cursing like a sailor must be her brain she's moving stuff must be her brain lol those doctors dum regan's mom was done with them lol this one they act similar to Michael and kept going no hilarious one liners like original that cam be A plus or minus depends on what you think limits Bern cool if they had Halloween Easter eggs in this both franchises very similar especially the first movie introduced Laurie and Chris the same ends the same cop and loomis wearing similar outfits and acting like a detective themes similar would explain A lot with Michael evil changes shape just like demon hopping from body to body lol black eyes pure evil sounds like demon to me lol so she wasn't allowed in the room because she wasn't part of the god believing thing that's what she said she's not part of their thing lol Chris is not that complicated character ooh something wrong with my daughter go to doctor after doctor scream when regan does something scream when doctors won't help her rinse and repeat nothing noise run upstairs scream at what she doing ok back downstairs what's going on noises run upstairs scream what she's doing scream at doctors noise run upstairs scream what she's doing c'mon priest help her that's a complex character? Lol

  • @absolutelydisgusted3319
    @absolutelydisgusted3319 3 місяці тому

    They destroy and ruin more movies with the whole Progressive, DEI and woke crap. This movie was probably the worst movie I’ve ever seen ( even worse than Showgirls 🤣) but what they did to the Chris McNeil character was SO disappointing. I honestly figured the movie couldn’t be THAT bad, since Ellyn Burstyn had agreed to be it….but wow. And the that final, “twist,” with Reagan- made me just cringe.

  • @Chadsolderbrotherbrad1111
    @Chadsolderbrotherbrad1111 9 днів тому

    I can’t imagine watching this movie 🍿 😊

  • @darktheories1758
    @darktheories1758 4 місяці тому

    Oh man. People are getting so stupid now days.

  • @David-c9o1k
    @David-c9o1k Місяць тому

    This totally sucked. The actors were not good. I walked out at the theatre. It was just corny and shite.

  • @covrtni
    @covrtni 7 місяців тому

    I actually really enjoyed the movie. But i never saw the original. When im watching a movie, im in it for the story and only the story. The other things are just bonuses. I guess that’s why my criticisms are few and far between

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому

      I guess I'd say I didn't think the story here was good honestly... like at all. BUT I definitely see the appeal. The original movie is an actual masterpiece though I can't recommend it enough

  • @Mka321
    @Mka321 6 місяців тому

    Great video. That line as well as the whole film is overly PC and seems to want to take any possible jabs at the Catholic Church.

  • @scottpendleton2798
    @scottpendleton2798 7 місяців тому

    No the exorcist is the most scary movie of all time

  • @AlexBrown-vq6uu
    @AlexBrown-vq6uu Місяць тому

    I hope the exorcist deceiver be way better

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  Місяць тому

      It's been cancelled. Trilogy is scrapped, fresh start coming from Mike Flanagan

  • @rickfassel7176
    @rickfassel7176 3 місяці тому

    Exorcist 2023 remake 1973

  • @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control
    @Stand_By_For_Mind_Control 7 місяців тому

    Don't know why I've never had much love for the Exorcist films but I supposed it was because I was raised Catholic and a big part of my life arc was leaving that as a young teen and I've just never taken it very seriously or seen it as much of a threatening thing since. Not that I dislike theological horror but if you start throwing nuns and priests into the mix and talking about Jesus's love as a plot device I kinda start waiting for the credits to roll lol.

  • @02familyguy
    @02familyguy 7 місяців тому +1

    Excellent review as ever, Evan! I echo a lot of your sentiments about the movie. However, I don't hate the now infamous patriarchy line. I think it's a good homage to Chris's first appearance in the original movie, where she's playing a character who protests and speaks out against the authority of the day. This coupled with some interpretations of the 1973 movie being a metaphor for counter culture via the mother and daughter relationship, contextualizes the line. Again, it could have been an interesting thread to explore, but much like the movie itself, it's fundamentally muddled. Keep up the great content!

    • @loriisgorey
      @loriisgorey 7 місяців тому +1

      That is actually the best defence of that line that I’ve heard so far. With good writers they could have actually made that work!

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much for the support! That's definitely the strongest point I've heard for the line, but it just felt so forced and out of place. I wouldn't have minded some sort of reference to that if it was implemented better and didn't feel so insulting to the themes of the first movie.

  • @dominichowell6896
    @dominichowell6896 5 місяців тому

    I would like to see an original Greene film

  • @SweetNothing937
    @SweetNothing937 7 місяців тому

    Will you be doing a revisiting of other horror movie franchises like insidious?

  • @charlesbronson4282
    @charlesbronson4282 7 місяців тому

    Easily one of the worst horror films of all time. Yes...right up there with the Heretic

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому

      I don't know if I'd go THAT far but it's rough

  • @cds9481
    @cds9481 5 місяців тому

    That was very good sir .things with all them is time line here. We don't know when this happens. If seen the tv show. Regan marring and has a family. Didn't tell her family who she was. Her mom is kill off. So how did this happened? We all love Linda Blair. And Ellen B. That was a hallmark ending. God bless. But don't seem to know how do a exorcism. Or care about. Faith. And bigs rip. Off the "stome book. Stephen King." Pick a kid. To save the town. And Satan doesn't get to pick. God won't let it happen. Going back to 1 exorcist. I didn't like the ending of it they just go home to CALIFORNIA. Really people. And this a man thing? More caring for both them. They hurt by this. 3 people die here. Go to them .and also Regan needs a hug people more than anything else. It what Jesus would do. ❤ God bless you and keep you stay safe and mighty.

  • @ScotsGal
    @ScotsGal 4 місяці тому

    What a load of mince this film was....well done Green ...that's 2 legendary franchises you flushed right down the toilet pot 💩...they should have went the route of the "The Exorcist" tv show ...it was a far better story and direct link to the original film which shows Regan (played by Geena Davis )with her own family and same demon re enters hef life

  • @patri6kd3mps3y8
    @patri6kd3mps3y8 7 місяців тому +2

    I don’t care what anybody says, I really enjoyed the exorcist believer. Of course it could’ve been a better film, but the premise was a good idea and well the execution didn’t fully hit its mark. They still managed to make an enjoyable film.

  • @alexchristian1463
    @alexchristian1463 6 місяців тому

    You know I want you guys to use #savetheExorcistTrillogy

  • @Oksurejan
    @Oksurejan 4 місяці тому

    I liked it🫠 not the best, but good compared to the other new movies ive seen recently

  • @iamgay698
    @iamgay698 7 місяців тому

    although i know its not a great movie and not even a good movie tbh… but i still kinda enjoyed it. it wasnt a boring or unenjoyable in any way

  • @Trippweed
    @Trippweed 7 місяців тому +220

    THAT line from Chris is an outrage that Burstyn should have refused to utter. Not only did both Merrin and Karras die helping her daughter, but they were only involved BECAUSE of Chris! She outright begged Karras for an exorcism that he was reluctant to perform! The fuck?! Idiotic, utterly disrespectful writing!

    • @LowdenFTW
      @LowdenFTW 7 місяців тому +22

      Agreed. Just such horrible writing. Makes no sense and it's just so obviously shoehorned in there for some useless reason. Disrespectful and demeaning to legacy characters for no reason. 🙄

    • @KennethBlum-sl6rx
      @KennethBlum-sl6rx 6 місяців тому +13

      Yep. Gotta have "current day" crap thrown in. That line alone cost the movie.

    • @satisfied656
      @satisfied656 6 місяців тому +8

      Thank god there´s another exorcist-themed movie on the way.... #LaExorcista ...this movie looks more like a worthy adaption!
      The Exorcist-Believer is pure PG13 brain-diarrhea

    • @digitalchapel
      @digitalchapel 6 місяців тому +10

      to be fair, from what I heard she was sick of them begging her to join on and that's a factor to why she agreed to do this movie despite how bad it was. the production could have stepped off and respected her initial response. bonus, I also heard Burstyn disliked the script so much that she donated what she was paid for this movie to an acting school so that at least it would do some good for the industry. I hope the latter is true.

    • @usernameperson6374
      @usernameperson6374 6 місяців тому +13

      ⁠​⁠@@KennethBlum-sl6rxThat line is not an example of “current day crap”. That line is an example of studios overdoing the pandering.

  • @angelataylor9316
    @angelataylor9316 7 місяців тому +85

    William Peter Blatty didn't consider The Exorcist horror. In many interviews he stated it was a psychological thriller and his intent wasn't to scare people, but to make them think about the possibility of demonic possession as it happened in the Bible. Especially since in his story, the mother of the possessed girl was an atheist who became so desperate to help her daughter she reached out to the church for help. William Friedken and William Peter Blatty gave us a well written script, actor's who embodied their characters and made The Exorcist one of the best movies ever. I think most movies about demonic possession try too hard to make it scary and don't flesh out the characters. To me the line about the patriarchy was a slap in the face to the original movie and what the priests endured helping Reagan. Karras and Merrin knew it would be risky to let Chris be in the room. The demon got to Karras by mimicking his mother and both priests knew that the demon would taunt and tell lies to get them to stop. Chris wouldn't have been able to mentally handle that. It had zero to do with patriarchy. That line should have never been uttered.

    • @HorrorbleCWalt
      @HorrorbleCWalt 6 місяців тому +7

      The patriarchy line was absolute BS, and pandering. If you're going to check a box then be intentional and genuine. What a mess of a line.

    • @MrSniperdude01
      @MrSniperdude01 5 місяців тому

      Which makes no sense !!! Go talk to a priest sometime, One of the first things they try to weed out of people besides a obvious history of mental illness, is religious conviction or lack thereof. If an open athiest came to them asking for religious intervention, it would be really hard for them to OK it --- the church won't baptize your kids if your don't affirm your belief, so why would they undertake something that has the potential to go wrong and potentially be held liable >> "Anneliese Michel" Case.

    • @CryWolf-sm9iw
      @CryWolf-sm9iw 4 місяці тому +3

      I agree with him. I don’t see The Exorcist as a horror movie but a psychological thriller with heavy religious overtones.

    • @levischorpioen
      @levischorpioen 2 дні тому

      Refusing to approach an exorcism film as a horror film is why my favorite will always be The Exorcism of Emily Rose, which is for the most part a courtroom drama that isn’t even really about the exorcism (although the film does feature one of the best exorcism sequences ever) but moreso about abandonment.

  • @laurenwasinger9436
    @laurenwasinger9436 7 місяців тому +81

    The movie sort of tells on itself. She throws out that line about the “patriarchy” but when she tries her own exorcism she gets stabbed in the eyes and fails… later she assembles the avengers and one of the girls dies… just makes it seem like exorcisms should be done by a certain group of trained people.

    • @HuffinStufff
      @HuffinStufff 7 місяців тому +18

      when i was talking to a coworker who asked me how it was and i pretty much described it as the woke religious avengers assembled for an exorcism lol

    • @darktheories1758
      @darktheories1758 4 місяці тому +10

      @@HuffinStufff What? Because they say Patriarchy??? That's what the heads are called in Catholicism, though, the patriarchy. She isn't talking about patriarchy as in men holding down women, she is talking about the heads in Catholicism. This movie is bad, but that has nothing to do with WOKE.

    • @wilfredoanunezpacheco5367
      @wilfredoanunezpacheco5367 4 місяці тому

      @@HuffinStufffYou should’ve told her the truth and told her you didn’t watch the movie cause there wasn’t anything “woke” about it. One line about the patriarchy and y’all lose your minds and immediately get triggered. You’re one of those that calls anything remotely out of your comfort and ignorance “woke” to justify your delusion and it shows.

    • @MrMatsudi
      @MrMatsudi 8 днів тому +1

      @@darktheories1758 You're thinking of papacy, not patriarchy. Patriarch is an Orthodox position, not a Catholic one.

    • @kohtahirano4546
      @kohtahirano4546 4 дні тому

      Feminism written by Men, doesn't always work.

  • @theblacklagoon
    @theblacklagoon 4 місяці тому +31

    "It's cause I'm not a member of the damn patriarchy."
    How that line made it all the way from the original screenplay to release is mind-boggling. We're talking dozens of people that had to sign off on that.

  • @sandrasotelo6789
    @sandrasotelo6789 7 місяців тому +166

    I hardly comment on videos, but I stumbled on your channel this past week and have been binging every video! I was shocked your channel isn’t bigger. Love your breakdowns, keep it up!

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому +9

      Wow thank you so much! Really appreciate it

    • @ericnierstedt6242
      @ericnierstedt6242 7 місяців тому +1

      Since it sounds like she didn't want to be there, I think she did it because she knew the movie was a turd and knew this was another thing that would help it fail.

    • @johnnyp8867
      @johnnyp8867 4 місяці тому

      Saaaame! Been jonesing for these lol. The conjurings would be sweet :p

    • @KlNGKEEF
      @KlNGKEEF 4 місяці тому

      Ok sandra probe it

    • @FeedMeFacts841
      @FeedMeFacts841 2 місяці тому

      Doing the same thing now.

  • @ka-powUSA
    @ka-powUSA 6 місяців тому +50

    First thing that doesn't work -- honeymoon in Haiti.

    • @ryanmclellan8740
      @ryanmclellan8740 6 місяців тому +5

      Good point 😂 I didn't even think about that.

    • @kungfuskull
      @kungfuskull 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah that raised an eyebrow 🤨

    • @Lovegun.
      @Lovegun. Місяць тому +1

      RIGHT!!!???

  • @danielpayne7140
    @danielpayne7140 6 місяців тому +26

    Chris wasn't in the room during the exorcism because literally every time she'd been in the room for the previous hour she was attacked by her daughter, the scene pans to her and everyone else anxiously waiting in the hall lol. She's literally scared of her daughter by that point and almost doesn't even go to Reagan's side at the end when she's crying out for help.

  • @THEMorningstar_95
    @THEMorningstar_95 7 місяців тому +49

    I love when my mom tells me her story about The Exorcist. She said people were screaming in the theaters, barf bags were handed out, and the real life scenarios in the movie were eerily disturbing. My father to this day will not watch this movie in the dark. I saw it at a young age and now at 28 it's still one of the scariest and best horror movies I've ever seen

    • @Fuzzysea693
      @Fuzzysea693 6 місяців тому +4

      This is so funny to me because I watched it a couple of years ago and I didn’t find anything about it scary! There were some weird and disturbing parts sure but I kept waiting for something scary to happen. I think some of people’s fear of the movie is the memory of how scary it was to them almost 40 years ago.

    • @LilyApus
      @LilyApus 4 місяці тому

      if I had seen it way back then I probably would have thought it was scary too, I watched it when I was a teenager in the 2000s and I was laughing the whole time so, I guess it depends on how many horror movies you had seen up until then!

    • @brianbadonde9251
      @brianbadonde9251 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Fuzzysea693your childhood was probably traumatic that's why fiction can't scare you

  • @a-supernova-girl
    @a-supernova-girl 7 місяців тому +37

    I would love to see a video on your thoughts on the Exorcist TV series, especially thr first season. I feel like it got very little attention when it was on air, and even less since then, but it felt - to me at least - like a genuinely good sequel. Again, especially the first season.

    • @darktower0603
      @darktower0603 3 місяці тому +1

      Season 1 was surprisingly good. The Captain Howdy character was generally scary.

  • @monicaaboites5053
    @monicaaboites5053 Місяць тому +9

    Even William Friedkin didn't have faith in David Gordon Green. And expressed his disagreement before he dies, you know that something is wrong when the director from the original considers you an idiot.

  • @blondebomber-qo2uy
    @blondebomber-qo2uy 4 місяці тому +7

    Speaking as a radical feminist, when she uttered "patriarchy," i got so pissed off and offended. It felt shoehorned in, it felt pandering and it felt unnecessary. Tha k you for agreeing not as an anti-feminist but as one. (Or as someone that I at least assume to be one lol.)

  • @perryjones7771
    @perryjones7771 7 місяців тому +13

    Like you have Ellen Burstyn and Ann Dowd. Two of THE greatest actress’s of our time and this is what you give them!

    • @gregkluge
      @gregkluge День тому

      It's Disgusting what they did with Ellen Burstyn. Totally Wasted Her. She should have Bowed OUT.

  • @YannLL
    @YannLL 5 місяців тому +12

    David Gordon Green is a hack. I did not even bother watching Halloween Ends after the ridiculous Kills ("Evil dies tonight" repeated by the crowd over and over was so stupid!) and I didn't like much his first Halloween either. I didn't have high hopes for Believer. The first 30 minutes were fine, then it became a laughable mess, zero scares, zero entertainment, the worst movie I've seen in 2023 for sure.

  • @SouthsideSox19
    @SouthsideSox19 7 місяців тому +11

    Everything David Gordon Green and Blumhouse touch they ruin. They ruined the Halloween 🎃 franchise (it started with Resurrection) and now they have ruined the Exorcist franchise. Don't have high hopes (Amityville horror reference) for the next 2 Exorcist movies.

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  6 місяців тому +5

      Halloween Resurrection is ten fold worse than anything in DGG’s trilogy in my opinion

  • @johnwells5414
    @johnwells5414 5 місяців тому +8

    The original Exorcist is more haunting and psychological, which makes it scary in another way. The idea of invasion of your body, a guy who’s not prepared going up against the ultimate evil.

    • @charliejones7512
      @charliejones7512 4 місяці тому +1

      Well, I know what I’m planning to watch when I get the chance

  • @chadmedeiros264
    @chadmedeiros264 7 місяців тому +6

    Amazing thoughts on the original movie. I don't consider it just a horror movie. It is quite simply a phenomenal movie. Direction, writing and acting make or break a movie. This movie has it in spades. I still get chills during the first possession scene after the angiogram when Regan's eyes turn white. I love that Friedkin directed it in a way that it feels more like a documentary.
    I so badly wanted to like Believer. I saw it in the theater on opening day. I thought it was pretty good. I have watched it two more times since and unfortunately, it has gotten worse for me. I am so disappointed that bringing Ellen back didn't help. The directing and writing were not good. I thought the girls and the dad were good. The exorcism scene was a jumbled mess. The whole idea of using multiple religions was just a mess to me. What a weird direction to take. I would love to see what a great horror director could do with it. I'm on the fence either way.
    Love your channel! Keep it up!

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому

      Agreed.... it doesn't rewatch all that well

  • @letmein1230ify
    @letmein1230ify 7 місяців тому +5

    I appreciate how much more balanced and fair you are than a lot of other reviewers. Much respect for this approach, and I agree with you wholeheartedly with this film. Immediately subscribed.

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому

      Ah man I appreciate that. Thank you

  • @auranoxhighpriestess5475
    @auranoxhighpriestess5475 7 місяців тому +4

    While many beliefs of many ethnicities DO have rituals for Exorcism, they may not call them that. It was very poorly represented in this movie. I also feel that line from Chris was out of order, given that she was grateful that both Priests saved her daughter's life. There wasn't any anger held over the situation. She just wasn't in the room because she had no idea what the hell was going on really. The actress herself and the character of the original film were also injured in the process of being in the room while her child lashed out with demonic strength. So for them to turn the narrative into 'Screw the Patriarchy!' was WAY wrong. It never happened that way so to build it up to that wasn't right.
    The film needed to show more of what happened in the woods. It was left way too vague. Like we know how Regan was possessed, she played with the Ouija Board, and didn't know the etiquette for it and never closed the session...something got through. It looked like the girls in Believer were Scrying. Which literally only gives you Yes/No questions. A narrower channel for something to come through. While the girls gave a great performance, the movie as a whole was terrible. The way things were cut, certain things that weren't necessary, scenes left out that WERE necessary and never happened. It was a poor representation of its predecessor.

  • @5Roadfilms
    @5Roadfilms Місяць тому +1

    In the book Chris was in the room during the exorcism, at times anyway. So was her assistant Sharon.

  • @timboslice980
    @timboslice980 6 місяців тому +4

    Look at how positive Nefarious was received. Father Carlos Martins has a podcast called the exorcist files, he’s a world renowned exorcist himself and relic collector. Anyway, he said Nefarious is the most accurate possession movie ever made in fiction. Just do a comparison of these two films and it’ll make you a believer.

  • @greggpoppabich9281
    @greggpoppabich9281 3 місяці тому +1

    I can't believe that overpaid that old biddie 2 say that sh1t!! ✌🏽😐❤️

  • @myfriendisaac
    @myfriendisaac 7 місяців тому +2

    5:17 The original is an “air tight masterpiece” which is exactly why it shouldn’t have been touched 🚫🤷🏾‍♂️💯 *This remake/ reboot was doomed to fail.* An unsubtle MESS!

  • @juliagill386
    @juliagill386 4 місяці тому +3

    that dumb ending monologue felt like it belonged in a halloween movie 😭

    • @jdogjohnson382
      @jdogjohnson382 3 місяці тому

      Probably one of his halloween movies ha ha.

  • @ajvargas8199
    @ajvargas8199 7 місяців тому +3

    An absolute insult to the original classic, especially with what was done with Ellen Burstyn’s Chris McNeil. I was hoping for a legit 50 years later legacy sequel with both Ellen Burstyn and Linda Blair front and center. A missed opportunity.

  • @drexulgeewrangle
    @drexulgeewrangle 7 місяців тому +4

    Subscribed midway through this episode. So well done. Can’t wait to watch several of your other videos. Your feelings about this film mirror mine.

  • @KennethBlum-sl6rx
    @KennethBlum-sl6rx 6 місяців тому +5

    Deciever will be really groundbreaking. It will feature at least 3 possessed girls. , and the 3rd movie will be directed by JJ Abrams and will have thousands of possessed girls. And pets.

  • @ikapatino3214
    @ikapatino3214 3 місяці тому +1

    Priest telling them not to touch the girls then he touches the girls, like wth.

  • @MikeAmend84
    @MikeAmend84 7 місяців тому +3

    Hey man I just stumbled across your channel and this? This is what I need lol these break downs are awesome I’m binging them now lmao keep up the great work my friend!

  • @LibraryMacabre
    @LibraryMacabre 7 місяців тому +2

    Subscribed! Dude, I finally watched this movie last weekend… and wow. Just… just wow. I wanted to like it, but I found myself chuckling through most of it. Curious to see what the next movie will be like. 😅

  • @awalkoffreality1954
    @awalkoffreality1954 6 місяців тому +2

    I think my favorite part of this movie was doctor beehibe. I wish we got to see more of the voodoo (hope I'm using the correct word) combat a demonic possession. I was absolutely livid that they bring back a legacy character and take her out instantly. I'm sorry I can't believe Chris would willingly walk into a room with a possessed child with no one else or anything to use as a weapon. I'm not saying give Chris a whole Laurie h40 badass makeover, but you can't tell me something someone going through something traumatic would basically forget it

  • @JurassicRod
    @JurassicRod 14 днів тому

    If they insist on making a sequel (which the original doesn't need anyway) then they need to do something different like Exorcist 3 did or even Exorcism of Emily Rose. This just seemed like a lazy rehash of the original story but with more over the top CGI and ''modern audience'' nonsense.

  • @joeb.evrythngEclectic5571
    @joeb.evrythngEclectic5571 7 місяців тому +2

    The Exorcist tv series was better than the exorcist believer!

  • @alloverdaplace2043
    @alloverdaplace2043 Місяць тому +1

    I thought it was pretty ok

  • @MrHootiedean
    @MrHootiedean 7 місяців тому +3

    I like the idea of a father trying to save his daughter and of a pregnancy-terminating novice turned nurse facing her transgressions but it never translates to the screen in an engaging way. It's so frustrating! And I hope the scholarship Ellen Burstyn funded was worth the character-obliteratiin that was Chris McNeil and her performance in this film. But where I really never cared about Halloween, I've always had immense love for The Exorcist trilogy, yes, even the beautiful disaster that is The Heretic and DGG adding his fanboy funk here just doesn't work. The two young girls were fantastic and make a meal of a virtually empty plate. But I disagree about there being any good characters. They all act like ciphers who shot there scenes on different days and were then edited together, poorly.This movie felt like a job for hire and even the worst entries of this franchise has a passion that transcends its shortcomings and failures. Still, I enjoyed your review and your even handedness. Congrats on all the new subs!

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  7 місяців тому

      I don't know if what I was saying implied that I thought any of the characters were good, because I definitely didn't think that. Some of the performances yes, but not the characters. Thanks for watching!

    • @MrHootiedean
      @MrHootiedean 7 місяців тому

      @@RocklinGraves You're correct, I misheard. My apologies.

  • @CharlieFMaddox
    @CharlieFMaddox 7 місяців тому +1

    I can say, honestly, until this movie I had never gone to see a film at the theaters that made me wish I was sleeping instead. This one really did that to me. I felt it was so painfully boring, and frankly it seemed like it was written by AI because there was absolutely no heart in it. I'm a huge horror fan, but I would go so far as to say that Exorcist Believer might be the worst horror movie I've ever seen. I'd rather watch Bloody Murder, Shredder, Ax 'Em, or any of those other poorly made films again than have to sit through Believer ever again, at least I'd get a good laugh in with those other films.

  • @twistedelegance_
    @twistedelegance_ 6 місяців тому +1

    It should not be difficult to make a worthy sequel especially since the tv series was liked by Blatty himself, so follow that route. Add symbolism, do the VOICE and sound effects properly since those were most praised anyway.

  • @malepatternbaldness.
    @malepatternbaldness. 4 місяці тому +1

    Curious if you've seen the Exorcist show on FOX. I think its excellent.

    • @RocklinGraves
      @RocklinGraves  4 місяці тому

      I watched the first season YEARS ago…. might be time to take another look

    • @malepatternbaldness.
      @malepatternbaldness. 4 місяці тому

      @RocklinGraves I thought the first season was solid, second season fell off but it wasn't the worst thing I'd ever watched. Your videos are excellent btw, psyched that you're getting more views n subs.

  • @MuzcleJinx.
    @MuzcleJinx. 6 місяців тому +1

    What do you mean The Exorcist is not the scariest movie ever?!?! I was so scared of that movie that I struggled to watch the intro of Scary Movie 2 for years!! 😂

  • @portiamaree8637
    @portiamaree8637 5 місяців тому +1

    For sure The Exorcist is just a great story and you feel terrible for whats happening to those people. And hate that the beautiful relationship between Mother and Daughter is being tested in such a traumtic way.

  • @DekaNovelist
    @DekaNovelist 5 місяців тому

    The Exorcist: Believer was a letdown for me. I loved the original film, and i was uncertain if the new sequel will be great. Too bad it was a complete disappointment for me. The worst part is that Chris McNeil had less screentime since i was led to believe that she was gonna play a bigger role, thanks to the trailer.
    The only good part is Victor Fielding and his emotional scenes with his daughter. His character reminded me of both Karras and Chris in the original film, due to a personal loss that left him disillusioned until his child was possessed by a demonic spirit, causing him to seek help from the exorcists.
    Unfortunately, the film was such a trainwreck that it kills my interest in watching the future sequels of Believer.

  • @mechinate
    @mechinate 3 місяці тому

    Genuine question for anyone who asserts that The Exorcist isn't the scariest film of all time. What is then?
    To the best of my knowledge I've watched every horror movie worth watching, and nothing comes close. The first [REC], Hereditary, The Vanishing (Spoorloos) are notable mentions of ones that startled me but still nothing close.

  • @Acord718
    @Acord718 7 днів тому

    Call me crazy but I i actually like the latest exorcist movie.
    I also think they should have made the earthquake the same time they had the devastating earthquake in 2010

  • @michaelmeade7585
    @michaelmeade7585 7 місяців тому +3

    This, like all your video essays, was so good! You create excellent work, my friend.... Keep 'em coming!

  • @jayanxiety
    @jayanxiety 3 місяці тому

    The Heretic for all its flaws at least can't be considered a retread. The director didn't want to simply remake the first film, but make something completely different. While being different often separates a sequel from its predecessor, this was its main problem. Rather than give people what they wanted, director John Boorman wanted to explore mysticism and what goes on in a person's mind. One thing the film does have a great soundtrack, amazing imagery and a bold choice of stories. Still, it is NOTHING like the original.