The thing that people need to understand is that Guards take a while to develop in the NBA. I get that others haven't really gone well and there's a lot of guard busts, but if you look at guys like Lonzo, Kyle Lowry and Chauncey, you see guys that just need a place to believe in them and actually put effort into making sure that they succeed. Hoping for the best for Killian and the Pistons. Hope Casey and the development team takes care of him.
I always thought we are never going to have Michael Curry in starting lineup type of situation with Pistons again but watching Hayes play actually makes me appreciate Michael Curry more.
He's only 20. Coming from Overseas and was injured last yr. With no real off season last year. Pistons fans kill me. We've sucked for 10+ years and it makes us think every player is a bust.
@krypto9128 And Sekou in a much better situation now and has a chance to learn from Bron, Melo, AD, Ariza etc. Great leadership. How long did it take Middleton and Spencer D too develop. Always the Pistons problem, never develop your own picks. Than have to overpay for sub par talent in free agency.
I don‘t know (if you‘re a Pistons fan) why y‘all wanna rush so much. Who cares if Killian isn‘t putting up big stats this season. Y‘all should want to be bad and get a Top pick instead of taking away the mins from Killian to win more
@@erics8524 bruh you are dreaming if you think they got even a little of a chance to make the playoffs. That‘s not me hating on the Pistons but the reality.
Dude, this very guy has everything, the only thing hes struggling was he was in a team who is developing. All talents are already there, except scoring, but hes young. If he got that, he is a complete formidable player like Holiday of Bucks.
Here’s the thing about Killian, shooters shoot. He has to have that mentality. The first 2 may not fall, the first 3 may not fall for him. But he has to have the confidence to be aggressive and not get discouraged when the shots aren’t falling!
@@mr.windmill4892 nah he right saben was better last year and this year he hasn’t got any minute at all makes no sense why is cory Joseph in the rotation please just develop their players and let em play.
@@mr.windmill4892 also saben has a better feel to the game hayes just looks shy and scared. He looks lost and confused Hayes just has been a negative on offense
*He is not* a bust. For me the intangible potentials he has like high IQ plays, the passing, and how he reads the defence, decent defence plus he so young, outweighs the idea that he's a bust. Do you agree? The only reason he is struggle right now is that he is in a team who is developing. Put him in a team like warriors, jazz, etc, and you will see his significance being so emphasized. He is very effective with Cade because Cade is a high calibre player. Also, Killian is effevtive and efficient with his European team because that team is quite better, more matured, with talented veterans, compared to a Pistons young core team, where there's a huge room for improvement. I got you Hayes! All intangibles are already there, but we are yet to see an explosive Killian yet he is so young,once he got that smoke in him, he is a formidable beast and a complete player every other team hope to have.
@krypto9128 What you sayin is much more than a BS. You sayin ,Khris middleton and Dinwiddie is not workin hard on their ass too during their Pistons jersey? I believe things arent working on him now since the Pistons is a developing team. Plus we are yet to see the teams chemistry.
hindering Cade’s development by keeping Killian on ball is going to come back to hurt the Pistons. I hope they give Cade the keys like Memphis did with Ja and run Killian with the second unit
@@elijahreign1981 So basically what you’re saying is, I am not allowed to like Kristaps Porzingis because you think he’s bad? (Which he isn’t, he’s literally an NBA player)
I really don’t understand why people call him a bust dude hasn’t even played 30 GAMES in his career there’s only a handful of players that come to thr nba league ready
I beg to differ with dude. He’s got the skills he needs to acclimate and have a coach push him in the right direction. Wait till y’all trade him. It’ll be like Spurs trading Kawhi. Ok not that great but it’ll be bad for Detroit.
He played wel last night, and is still young. I hope for improvement. Why do u think he is the worst starter? Not talking trash just would like ur opinion
I’m personally a C’s fan and yall give us a hard game everytime. I personally like killian and hope he does get traded and shows what I know he’s capable of.
if the piston pick up or offer Donte DiVincenzo a contract when we will have the most money available via free agency this year. I would be done with them. They have enough to offer a great player max contract money like Ayton a big that we need, because our player are too damn small and can not rebound.
@krypto9128what are you even talking about I said he’ll probably be nice in the future, and you asked if I’m talking about his body? What???? you’re weird
Unfortunately his trade value is below 0 right now. You would have to send him a future second round draft pick and cash for nothing in return just to get rid of his contract. And they picked up the option right before the season started 😕 At this point they have no choice but to play him or send him to the G league and hope he improves so at least he gets positive value.
The thing that people need to understand is that Guards take a while to develop in the NBA. I get that others haven't really gone well and there's a lot of guard busts, but if you look at guys like Lonzo, Kyle Lowry and Chauncey, you see guys that just need a place to believe in them and actually put effort into making sure that they succeed. Hoping for the best for Killian and the Pistons. Hope Casey and the development team takes care of him.
I mean Curry took like 6 years so thats true
I always thought we are never going to have Michael Curry in starting lineup type of situation with Pistons again but watching Hayes play actually makes me appreciate Michael Curry more.
Me personally I think Killian Hayes will turn it around and figure it out but idk if it will be quick enough for Troy Weaver.
He's only 20. Coming from Overseas and was injured last yr. With no real off season last year. Pistons fans kill me. We've sucked for 10+ years and it makes us think every player is a bust.
Thank you! People always expect every young player to come in and play like an all star
@krypto9128 And Sekou in a much better situation now and has a chance to learn from Bron, Melo, AD, Ariza etc. Great leadership. How long did it take Middleton and Spencer D too develop. Always the Pistons problem, never develop your own picks. Than have to overpay for sub par talent in free agency.
We picked killian over so many guards who r currently producing wayyy more than him
When Cade comes back I hope he plays pg and josh Jackson plays Sg
I don‘t know (if you‘re a Pistons fan) why y‘all wanna rush so much. Who cares if Killian isn‘t putting up big stats this season. Y‘all should want to be bad and get a Top pick instead of taking away the mins from Killian to win more
@@ezypeazyy exactly what’s the point of us getting to the playoffs just to get swept as the 8th seed💀
@@ayooooo8191 experience…
@@erics8524 bruh you are dreaming if you think they got even a little of a chance to make the playoffs. That‘s not me hating on the Pistons but the reality.
@@ezypeazyy never said that
Looks like Hayes is going the Exum and Ntilikina route… We‘ll see
Dude, this very guy has everything, the only thing hes struggling was he was in a team who is developing. All talents are already there, except scoring, but hes young. If he got that, he is a complete formidable player like Holiday of Bucks.
Here’s the thing about Killian, shooters shoot. He has to have that mentality. The first 2 may not fall, the first 3 may not fall for him. But he has to have the confidence to be aggressive and not get discouraged when the shots aren’t falling!
Even if he’s a bust his floor in my opinion is Ricky Rubio and I think he would be amazing on the Celtics
Wanted him to fall to the Celtics in his draft year ngl😅
Rubio is so good this year
He ain't a bust. Remember this comment. (10/26/21)
He just got his first all star selection (2026)
@@osvaldotorres6138 He wins his 18th Finals MVP (2039)
If he doesn’t improve by next season he’ll be in the G-League (2022)
As much as i want killian to work out, i want the ball to stay in cades hands
Killian played well all game last night and gets subbed out in the 4th quarter for Saben fucking Lee. Doesn't make any sense to me
Saben tooth lion is better then killian
@@solo6088 What's smoking crack like?
@@mr.windmill4892 nah he right saben was better last year and this year he hasn’t got any minute at all makes no sense why is cory Joseph in the rotation please just develop their players and let em play.
@@zion9247 Saben has not been better than Killian.
@@mr.windmill4892 also saben has a better feel to the game hayes just looks shy and scared. He looks lost and confused Hayes just has been a negative on offense
Look at krispy man so inspirational
*He is not* a bust.
For me the intangible potentials he has like high IQ plays, the passing, and how he reads the defence, decent defence plus he so young, outweighs the idea that he's a bust. Do you agree?
The only reason he is struggle right now is that he is in a team who is developing. Put him in a team like warriors, jazz, etc, and you will see his significance being so emphasized. He is very effective with Cade because Cade is a high calibre player. Also, Killian is effevtive and efficient with his European team because that team is quite better, more matured, with talented veterans, compared to a Pistons young core team, where there's a huge room for improvement. I got you Hayes!
All intangibles are already there, but we are yet to see an explosive Killian yet he is so young,once he got that smoke in him, he is a formidable beast and a complete player every other team hope to have.
@krypto9128
What you sayin is much more than a BS. You sayin ,Khris middleton and Dinwiddie is not workin hard on their ass too during their Pistons jersey?
I believe things arent working on him now since the Pistons is a developing team. Plus we are yet to see the teams chemistry.
@krypto9128
Racist spotted.
Finally someone said it right.
If you’re calling someone a bust after 3 games and an acl injury you have no idea about sports, let alone basketball
Shit everyone was right bout Thon Maker and Markelle Fultz.
hindering Cade’s development by keeping Killian on ball is going to come back to hurt the Pistons. I hope they give Cade the keys like Memphis did with Ja and run Killian with the second unit
He’s not hindering anyone development
@@PostDeathPostDeathPostDeath i’m not taking basketball insight from a guy who thinks Porzingis is a God 😂
@@elijahreign1981 That’s his nickname
@@PostDeathPostDeathPostDeath NOBODY calls him that. He’s 💩
@@elijahreign1981 So basically what you’re saying is, I am not allowed to like Kristaps Porzingis because you think he’s bad? (Which he isn’t, he’s literally an NBA player)
Description ayo😂😂
I really don’t understand why people call him a bust dude hasn’t even played 30 GAMES in his career there’s only a handful of players that come to thr nba league ready
@krypto9128 im not a killian groupie I just have common sense
To be fair, the skepticism isn't unwarranted, he has been terrible. His shooting stats are atrocious, and he's a -9.3 on the season
Killian only failing because Casey is not the right coach for him plus he is being forced to perform rather than find his flow.
Nope he is a bust that was drafted to high. Look at his international pro stats, the kid is just not it.
I beg to differ with dude. He’s got the skills he needs to acclimate and have a coach push him in the right direction. Wait till y’all trade him. It’ll be like Spurs trading Kawhi. Ok not that great but it’ll be bad for Detroit.
Next MCW
Killian Hayes is literally one of the worst players I’ve seen this season. He is probably the worst starter in the league right now…
He played wel last night, and is still young. I hope for improvement. Why do u think he is the worst starter? Not talking trash just would like ur opinion
Loved it !
Kevin O'connor from The Ringer had him at #1 in his mock draft. Not looking so good now.
I hope for Killians sake he can turn it around, reminds me a bit of Jarret Culver.
He is!!!!!! Trade him now
they should trade him before his value drops
Khillan Hayes play type is a Ricky Rubio build which is not bad
Homie really showing us the per 36 min stats🤭
Bro he’s 20
Killian is more comparable to Frank N or Dante Exum than Lonzo put some respect on that man name he been GOATed since Chino Hills
Give him 2 more years before we can call him a bust
Very confused about the rebuild
I’m one to think Hayes needs a change of scenery to be better. Coaching/development staff could be a part of it too
Look at fultz the magic have fixed him somewhat
I’m personally a C’s fan and yall give us a hard game everytime. I personally like killian and hope he does get traded and shows what I know he’s capable of.
if the piston pick up or offer Donte DiVincenzo a contract when we will have the most money available via free agency this year. I would be done with them. They have enough to offer a great player max contract money like Ayton a big that we need, because our player are too damn small and can not rebound.
Killian the next Manu!
👎🏼👎🏼
@krypto9128 ur a weirdo
@krypto9128 thanks for proving my point
Ain't no what is HE IS
What if the sky is blue
Killian Hayes will be nice.
@krypto9128 what?????
@krypto9128what are you even talking about I said he’ll probably be nice in the future, and you asked if I’m talking about his body? What???? you’re weird
@krypto9128 are you ok? everything good at home? cuz idek what you’re saying 😂 you getting bullied at home?
Killian gives me Kevin Knox vibes.
Krispy but lonzo scored 30 points in his first game.
ummm you do realize that you were looking at Killian's and Lonzo's per 36 stats right, at the beginning?? lol
Killian is like ben simmons, but with worse defense, worse layups, less athletic 🤷🏿
Remove the what if
Should of drafted Halliburton
Just trade killian hayes it will not work they are both point guard you ll need to choose between the two.
Unfortunately his trade value is below 0 right now. You would have to send him a future second round draft pick and cash for nothing in return just to get rid of his contract. And they picked up the option right before the season started 😕 At this point they have no choice but to play him or send him to the G league and hope he improves so at least he gets positive value.
How does this guy think he knows basketball.
Sorry mark my word Oct 27 2021 Killian is not what you think of.. my mark word my friend 10 27 2021
Cole Anthony better than that man
You can’t be a buss unless you too 3 pick
What???
It’s already clear he is a bust
Killian has the ugliest looking shot, he is never going to be any good on offense. He is definitely going to bust.
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@@jsn962 raptors not winning the championship
@@DJturninup damn😂
Hayes is fine cade is trash 😂
Aged like milk
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