I'm so glad Ashely realised that you can't really please everyone; and that it doesn't matter if someone else doesn't like your looks..what matters is what you think and feel of yourself
Peniel: Beauty is a mindset So true. I think one of the charms in the world is that we all look different. I feel like, wouldent it be boring if we all looked the same? We all are unique (even me I guess XD) and I think we should embrace ourself. Yeah we all probably have something we are not happy with but focus on the things you like about yourself instead. Be yourself, be you and be proud of yourself because there is only on you and you are special
Beautifully said! Beauty is really such a pressured topic, especially for girls. I don't like Koreans standards of beauty because it's way too strict and we can't look like sticks all the time. Accepting the way your body is made and not willing to change yourself is very impactful because you are created that way, unique and special in your own way :)
Your words are beautiful. Peop'e who don't understand think it's idealistic but I've learned to really understand it and apply it to myself, and I'm far from being idealistic. It's just true
Tbh after listening to more kpop and watching more fancams, variety shows, etc. I’ve become more self conscious, but if your reading this and also feel like that please remember that one beauty standard is not the only thing that is beautiful 💜 Also Ashely, Peniel, and BM I mean this nicest way possible but STFU YALL ARE BEAUTIFUL AMAZING HUMANS
Thats why I give all idols respect regardless if I like their music or not, it's pretty damn hard to be right on point with the beauty standards in Korea.
@@fattiboi2924 Exactly. Beauty standards and really all standards too. I mean, these people seriously can't even breathe without someone giving them crap for breathing the wrong way. 😩
@@fattiboi2924 always. Me too, regardless of if I like them or not first off : 1. They deserve basic respect as a human being regardless of gender 2. They have all worked hard to get where they are 3. We don't know them or how hard their lives have been 4. We will always be just onlookers enjoying a side of their personality and might not even see their real self due to how ppl love tearing others down
@@oiiiie457 I don't even know what to say anymore....it's like there standing still on a pedestal. They take one step off hate is thrown at you for taking the step. I wish they could just live like us without super strict rules and standards. :(
Korea and Korean Entertainment has the most unrealistic beauty standards. I am wondering where did these stem from. If they'd strictly follow everything that's said about how they should look like,then everyone will really look the same. Like they have template and if your off that template, 'you're ugly', 'you're not attractive.' I am glad to hear and see people who do not conform to those. I see you are three beautiful people and knowing your thoughts on the subjects you are talking about and how real your takes are, how genuine your messages are not only in this episode but in all these you've come up so far, you become even more beautiful. You guys are just great!
I agree, they have a mentality where you can only be on screen or presented to the public if you’re good looking according to their standards. What’s broadcasted on TV, from news anchors to actors to kpop idols, fall under the exact same body type, skin type and beauty type. There’s practically no diversification of the kind of people and looks that are presented to the public, which keeps them thinking that they have to look that exact way to be considered beautiful or successful
Even if they let different looking people they try to minimise the difference from white washing to very obvious editswhere people look fake especially on magazine covers and some iidol photos,, one photo of Changbiin from Stray kids since he has very non standard chin/jaw they made is V shapped and it look so different, Han`s photo for one of Skz Nacific modeling was so edited his neck was obviously stretched with photoshop
That’s what happened when I visited korea. I was born in korea but left when I was 2 to America and then came back when I was 16. My relatives pointed out stuff I never realized about myself and made me feel more insecure. I am already so insecure to begin with and cry over how I look. My grandma and other relatives especially pointed out my uneven double eyelids and they even offered to give me eyelid surgery when I go back to korea next year cuz I’m 17 and it’s my last senior year but I decided no because why can’t I just accept what I look like. Me looking better for ur satisfaction and visuals are just feeding into the beauty standards and mindset in korea. They expect u to look a certain way and I don’t want myself to get pulled into that.
Yeahh like you said they expect you to look a certain way to fit their beauty standards and I think that's so wrong I admire you for not listening to them😭❤️✨ We don't need to try and change ourselves for anyone ✨
Idk you but I’m proud of you for being your self and not conforming to other people’s standards! Do what makes you comfortable. Don’t change yourself for others! 🧡
I'm dying so hard at all the comments his company tells he looks like lol. First you stop lifting because you look like a lego and now they wanted him to shave his jaw down because he would look like buzz lightyear on TV. I love you peniel but dammit your companys a savage lol.
It’s sad how they’re often treated as “products” that need to be the most appealing to “customers”. I wish kpop idols would be able to keep their individuality
This is a huuugggeeee topic that needs to be addressed by the industry. I get that idols have to look good because they're, you know, IDOLS, but the pursuit of perfection is out of control. There is little to no emphasis on like...self love? We all want to look our best but the environment breeds body dysmorphia. IDK GUYS I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO LOVE THEMSELVES OKAY
I agree, if you try to chase a beauty standard set by others there will always be something to critique or something they're not satisfied with. The important thing is you're happy about yourself, and that the satisfaction doesn't come from anyone else.
Yea beauty is perspective, it's usually what media decided beauty is and everyone is molded to think that, through commercials, characters, magazine etc.
I truly respect Peniel. The way he perceives things is so simple and just how it is. He doesn't complicate it. He's chill and wise with words and he doesn't even know it.
I really love how peniel's conclude that beauty is just a mindset💙 who's care about people's think about my look, i'll do whatever make me comfortable then that makes me shine more ✨
Ashley to Matthew: Did you ever have a preppy phase? Me before Matthew answers: No he definitely did not Matthew to Ashley: Why did you? Me before Ashley answers: She 100% did.
This mindset is SO damaging to people. Ashely looks uncomfortable to this day about her trainee experiences. Imagine what 14 year olds are going through, being harassed for their “flaws” and being forced to go under the knife to fix themselves to be successful. It leaves an impact on their self esteem and mental health, especially at such a young age. It’s terrible, no wonder some trainees grow up to be narcissistic bullies like AOA’s Jimin that are fuelled by jealousy and obsess over looks.
I think this is so true. Beauty is indeed all about how you are from within. I mean.. I really find it so harsh how they judge idols on their appearance. If your music is good then that is all that matters right? Of course looks matter I guess too.. To some extent but not that much tbh your inner beauty will shine through transforming your 💗 (starting off as a maze but when u find that center or essence of who you truly are ❤️& wipe out or off the dirt it will shine bright like never before or like how u were as a child, happy and through different levels and obstacles in life u get deeper into the realisation of what your life purpose is and who u are meant to be or truly are.. Etc and u start to expand your heart to.. Embrace everyone.. Expanding your vision in life is so important haha God. Narrow views makes us see things through a tunnel vision... Micro zooming into things that do not matter! 💖🧡💛💚💙In the end we will become more spiritual ... Not caring about trivial things while not neglecting our soul & the case aka the physical body and its needs we have to live in.. Balance.. Is all that matters. Gosh! 💜... I forgot that haha. Man!
It's soo true..... ' Beauty is just a mindset ' . 👍👍👍👍👍 Everyone is beautiful in their own unique ways. Just imagine if all of us 'look the same' like 🙄🙄🙄...??? Embracing oneself as who we are is the most beautiful thing.
I used to enjoy kpop a lot but seeing these skinny dainty idols with pale skin and big eyes affected how I view my body and I remember I would spend hours and days trying to gather dieting info so I could look like them but a lot of the diets were pretty much starvation diets I ended up in a really bad place. I really can’t imagine how difficult it is for people who are actually in the industry surrounded by messages like that. I’m really glad they talked about it
Wow the beauty standards in the companies are so toxic 😰 one thing is that they tell you but another if they make you or pressure you to have ps or change 😢
Koreans are really not that open minded when it comes to beauty. I am not a Korean but watching Korean videos, their level of beauty is unbeatable. It seems as if they want their society to have that same level of beauty so that they could fit into the trend or whatever you called they. Koreans should know that beauty isn’t everything and no one in the first place is born perfect, pretty or handsome. Everyone has flaws and they should start embracing it. Sending love to everyone who thinks that you are not enough but actually, you are more than enough
My mom would always tell us that physical beauty fade but what you got inside don't. So yeah, try to be nicer, kinder to people, you'll look more beautiful. I assure you that.
Brooo i tell ya. Beauty standard really changes overtime. It is based on what you consume daily, Peniel is right it's all about mindset, you might think it is forced positivity but in fact every beauty standards are different across countries meaning there are no such a thing as a real 'beauty'. Stop comparing yourself to other people
What makes me angry is that they are already idols, they have a lot of pressure and people criticize them for their looks, if they are female idols, they criticize them much more. I'm fucking tired of that double standard they have for female idols
I know I will feel sad listening to this convo because it is so difficult becoming idol :'( I hope all of you always in a healthy condition, both mental and physical :')
Would love to visit a Korea actually want to move there but what is holding me back is their beauty standards when it comes to weight, am a big girl have always been a big girl , so I know that I would be judged. It shouldn’t bother me,but unfortunately it bothers me since I had to deal & cope with all my life. Plus being overweight does not mean am lazy or unkept.
That's unbelievable that they would tell you to physically change yourself. Like excuse you, do you want a Barbie Doll as an idol???? I'm glad that Ashely saw that everyone is not worth pleasing. Everyone is beautiful the way they are. Fuck all that other shit, that's not worth it. EVERYONE IS BEAUTIFUL!!!
Bro, this is like peniel getting roasted in every way...the last ep he said that they (his company) said he looked like a Lego and this ep he said that they (his company) told him he looked like Buzz lightyear 😂😂😂💀💀
i was today years old when Peniel said "Butt chin" when all this time i preferred calling it as "cleft chin" but now i think i might have to change because it sounds funny lmao
YES PENIEL BEAUTY IS A MINDSET!!! We don't give a flying FART about what other people's expectations and insecurities want from us, it's none of our business
"Beauty is just a mindset"
Peniel really went there 👏👏👏 but fr we should all be reminded that you are beautiful in your own ways
Nicely summed up by him 👏👏👏
@@kritikagurung8059 true. Mindset is everything
"You're gonna look like buzz lightyear" lol that's so specific.
For me thats compliment lol
In another video it was "lego" 😂😂
I'm so glad Ashely realised that you can't really please everyone; and that it doesn't matter if someone else doesn't like your looks..what matters is what you think and feel of yourself
it’s wild cause ashley is one of the most beautiful people i’ve ever seen 🥺
she got her nose done
@@luvvioilin she still looking stunning
She reminds me of Wheein from Mamamoo
She is pretty! 🥰
@@luvvioilin so what?
"Beauty is a mindset"
-Peniel, 2020
Peniel spiting straight facts.
I love the way Peniel "like what!!!"
He seemed so much like a big brother 💖
Peniel: Beauty is a mindset
So true. I think one of the charms in the world is that we all look different. I feel like, wouldent it be boring if we all looked the same? We all are unique (even me I guess XD) and I think we should embrace ourself. Yeah we all probably have something we are not happy with but focus on the things you like about yourself instead. Be yourself, be you and be proud of yourself because there is only on you and you are special
Beautifully said! Beauty is really such a pressured topic, especially for girls. I don't like Koreans standards of beauty because it's way too strict and we can't look like sticks all the time. Accepting the way your body is made and not willing to change yourself is very impactful because you are created that way, unique and special in your own way :)
Your words are beautiful. Peop'e who don't understand think it's idealistic but I've learned to really understand it and apply it to myself, and I'm far from being idealistic. It's just true
Really nice way to put it
Tbh after listening to more kpop and watching more fancams, variety shows, etc. I’ve become more self conscious, but if your reading this and also feel like that please remember that one beauty standard is not the only thing that is beautiful 💜 Also Ashely, Peniel, and BM I mean this nicest way possible but STFU YALL ARE BEAUTIFUL AMAZING HUMANS
This shows how pressured kpop stars are to look like their ideal beauty standards, I hope they stay strong and stay unique and individual 💜✨
Thats why I give all idols respect regardless if I like their music or not, it's pretty damn hard to be right on point with the beauty standards in Korea.
@@fattiboi2924 Exactly. Beauty standards and really all standards too. I mean, these people seriously can't even breathe without someone giving them crap for breathing the wrong way. 😩
@@fattiboi2924 always. Me too, regardless of if I like them or not first off :
1. They deserve basic respect as a human being regardless of gender
2. They have all worked hard to get where they are
3. We don't know them or how hard their lives have been
4. We will always be just onlookers enjoying a side of their personality and might not even see their real self due to how ppl love tearing others down
@@oiiiie457 I don't even know what to say anymore....it's like there standing still on a pedestal. They take one step off hate is thrown at you for taking the step. I wish they could just live like us without super strict rules and standards. :(
Korea and Korean Entertainment has the most unrealistic beauty standards. I am wondering where did these stem from. If they'd strictly follow everything that's said about how they should look like,then everyone will really look the same. Like they have template and if your off that template, 'you're ugly', 'you're not attractive.' I am glad to hear and see people who do not conform to those.
I see you are three beautiful people and knowing your thoughts on the subjects you are talking about and how real your takes are, how genuine your messages are not only in this episode but in all these you've come up so far, you become even more beautiful. You guys are just great!
I agree, they have a mentality where you can only be on screen or presented to the public if you’re good looking according to their standards. What’s broadcasted on TV, from news anchors to actors to kpop idols, fall under the exact same body type, skin type and beauty type. There’s practically no diversification of the kind of people and looks that are presented to the public, which keeps them thinking that they have to look that exact way to be considered beautiful or successful
Even if they let different looking people they try to minimise the difference from white washing to very obvious editswhere people look fake especially on magazine covers and some iidol photos,, one photo of Changbiin from Stray kids since he has very non standard chin/jaw they made is V shapped and it look so different, Han`s photo for one of Skz Nacific modeling was so edited his neck was obviously stretched with photoshop
ASHLEY IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PERSON!!!!!
"Beauty is just a mindset." This made me feel better :')) Thanks Peniel
Same that was beautiful😔
Peniel: Self-censorship pro.
Also Peniel: almost calls BM a Skankster
😂
Nobody:
Diane at the back: *They see me rollin’*
I need a friend like Peniel. He’s cool and light, effortlessly funny but also very on point with conversations.
That’s what happened when I visited korea. I was born in korea but left when I was 2 to America and then came back when I was 16. My relatives pointed out stuff I never realized about myself and made me feel more insecure. I am already so insecure to begin with and cry over how I look. My grandma and other relatives especially pointed out my uneven double eyelids and they even offered to give me eyelid surgery when I go back to korea next year cuz I’m 17 and it’s my last senior year but I decided no because why can’t I just accept what I look like. Me looking better for ur satisfaction and visuals are just feeding into the beauty standards and mindset in korea. They expect u to look a certain way and I don’t want myself to get pulled into that.
Yeahh like you said they expect you to look a certain way to fit their beauty standards and I think that's so wrong
I admire you for not listening to them😭❤️✨
We don't need to try and change ourselves for anyone ✨
I stan this.
Idk you but I’m proud of you for being your self and not conforming to other people’s standards! Do what makes you comfortable. Don’t change yourself for others! 🧡
You did good, kid
BM 0.37 " YOu got that man jaw bro." Love him
I'm dying so hard at all the comments his company tells he looks like lol. First you stop lifting because you look like a lego and now they wanted him to shave his jaw down because he would look like buzz lightyear on TV. I love you peniel but dammit your companys a savage lol.
It’s sad how they’re often treated as “products” that need to be the most appealing to “customers”. I wish kpop idols would be able to keep their individuality
Thank you, Peniel, for your insight! 😍
This is a huuugggeeee topic that needs to be addressed by the industry. I get that idols have to look good because they're, you know, IDOLS, but the pursuit of perfection is out of control. There is little to no emphasis on like...self love? We all want to look our best but the environment breeds body dysmorphia. IDK GUYS I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO LOVE THEMSELVES OKAY
bm's "yo" in small font at 2:30 represents all of us. beauty is a mindset is my life motto now.
I agree, if you try to chase a beauty standard set by others there will always be something to critique or something they're not satisfied with. The important thing is you're happy about yourself, and that the satisfaction doesn't come from anyone else.
Yea beauty is perspective, it's usually what media decided beauty is and everyone is molded to think that, through commercials, characters, magazine etc.
The gunmy smile makes it so much better
This whole episode conclusion is basically "Peniel should become a boxer"
I truly respect Peniel. The way he perceives things is so simple and just how it is. He doesn't complicate it. He's chill and wise with words and he doesn't even know it.
diane's laugh in the background every now and then gives me LIFE
This episode kinda make me relieved.
Just listened to the podcast! It was awesome. Great to see their facial reactions in the videosssss
I really love how peniel's conclude that beauty is just a mindset💙 who's care about people's think about my look, i'll do whatever make me comfortable then that makes me shine more ✨
Beauty is just a mindset!!
👏 Someone 👏 finally 👏 said 👏 it
Ashley to Matthew: Did you ever have a preppy phase?
Me before Matthew answers: No he definitely did not
Matthew to Ashley: Why did you?
Me before Ashley answers: She 100% did.
This mindset is SO damaging to people. Ashely looks uncomfortable to this day about her trainee experiences. Imagine what 14 year olds are going through, being harassed for their “flaws” and being forced to go under the knife to fix themselves to be successful. It leaves an impact on their self esteem and mental health, especially at such a young age. It’s terrible, no wonder some trainees grow up to be narcissistic bullies like AOA’s Jimin that are fuelled by jealousy and obsess over looks.
I'm gonna need the full episode here asap thankyou
I think this is so true. Beauty is indeed all about how you are from within. I mean.. I really find it so harsh how they judge idols on their appearance. If your music is good then that is all that matters right? Of course looks matter I guess too.. To some extent but not that much tbh your inner beauty will shine through transforming your 💗 (starting off as a maze but when u find that center or essence of who you truly are ❤️& wipe out or off the dirt it will shine bright like never before or like how u were as a child, happy and through different levels and obstacles in life u get deeper into the realisation of what your life purpose is and who u are meant to be or truly are.. Etc and u start to expand your heart to.. Embrace everyone.. Expanding your vision in life is so important haha God. Narrow views makes us see things through a tunnel vision... Micro zooming into things that do not matter! 💖🧡💛💚💙In the end we will become more spiritual
... Not caring about trivial things while not neglecting our soul & the case aka the physical body and its needs we have to live in.. Balance.. Is all that matters. Gosh! 💜... I forgot that haha. Man!
I like how Peniel being honest. ❤
Move i'm stanning. Peniel is so right !
"Ashley, BM, and Kard talk about how they were told to change their appearances when they moved to Korea"
Ashley, BM and Peniel 😂😂
Sjsjsjsjs kArD
@Rizki Ramadhani I was quoting the video description
It's soo true..... ' Beauty is just a mindset ' . 👍👍👍👍👍 Everyone is beautiful in their own unique ways. Just imagine if all of us 'look the same' like 🙄🙄🙄...???
Embracing oneself as who we are is the most beautiful thing.
BM, Penial and Ashly are my favorite squad in Dive Studio. They always have something interesting and funny things to say.
hahahaha here again someone said peniel look like Buzz Lightyear other than said that he look like a lego?🤣🤭🤣
Dive staffs are doing it again. Maybe this is really their time when to upload. Waaaa. Thank you for that. 💕
Goodness, I know Peniel kinda joked about the Buzz Light-year thing, but 😬😬😬 that stuff would get to me after a while.
I love how shocked they sound everytime one of them mentions one of their "flaws". Get yourself friends like this!!!!!!!!
can't wait for the full episode tomorrow 💕
i haven’t even watched it but i liked the video 🥴🥰
Beauty is just a mindset. You just gotta be happy with what you got. That's beauty💕 - Peniel
This is something every person should hear 💕
Peniel handing out the best advise on Beauty!! Its something I'm trying to live by. 😂
been waiting for this!!!
not at CUBE calling and comparing Peniel to a lego/Buzz Lightyear 😂💀
My new favorite podcast
Such nice people, this I why I hardly worry for April and G idle which such nice seniors to guide them
Can't wait for the full podcast 😍❤🤗
That's real. This three is the best
I love this part💛
2:35 ...dont give a 'flying funk' about what other people think.
Peniel's curse is another level 🤣
Aww I rlly needed this video today! 💖🖤😢
I used to enjoy kpop a lot but seeing these skinny dainty idols with pale skin and big eyes affected how I view my body and I remember I would spend hours and days trying to gather dieting info so I could look like them but a lot of the diets were pretty much starvation diets I ended up in a really bad place. I really can’t imagine how difficult it is for people who are actually in the industry surrounded by messages like that. I’m really glad they talked about it
Diane's laugh is such a mood.
I feel relaxed while listening to their conversation. Anyways, stan Ladies Code!! 💖
Wow the beauty standards in the companies are so toxic 😰 one thing is that they tell you but another if they make you or pressure you to have ps or change 😢
Koreans are really not that open minded when it comes to beauty. I am not a Korean but watching Korean videos, their level of beauty is unbeatable. It seems as if they want their society to have that same level of beauty so that they could fit into the trend or whatever you called they. Koreans should know that beauty isn’t everything and no one in the first place is born perfect, pretty or handsome. Everyone has flaws and they should start embracing it. Sending love to everyone who thinks that you are not enough but actually, you are more than enough
All the stuff is beautiful
Love this trio ❤️
My mom would always tell us that physical beauty fade but what you got inside don't. So yeah, try to be nicer, kinder to people, you'll look more beautiful. I assure you that.
Brooo i tell ya. Beauty standard really changes overtime. It is based on what you consume daily, Peniel is right it's all about mindset, you might think it is forced positivity but in fact every beauty standards are different across countries meaning there are no such a thing as a real 'beauty'. Stop comparing yourself to other people
peniel making "to infinity and beyond" his tag line
What makes me angry is that they are already idols, they have a lot of pressure and people criticize them for their looks, if they are female idols, they criticize them much more.
I'm fucking tired of that double standard they have for female idols
buzz lightyear 😂 i feel so bad laughing but it's funny af
PREACH PENIEL 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I love u guys!
Flying... funk
My new favorite curse word 😂😂
PREACH, PENIEL, PREACH!
YOU GOT THAT MAN JAW BRO.YASS BM TELL HIM
My knees are my biggest insecurity.
Same
Same...I am a black child
being korean is always not easy
I know I will feel sad listening to this convo because it is so difficult becoming idol :'(
I hope all of you always in a healthy condition, both mental and physical :')
Ashley🖤
Yup,Peniel said it best love yourself and screw what ppl think or say...😉🤙🏽
Would love to visit a Korea actually want to move there but what is holding me back is their beauty standards when it comes to weight, am a big girl have always been a big girl , so I know that I would be judged.
It shouldn’t bother me,but unfortunately it bothers me since I had to deal & cope with all my life. Plus being overweight does not mean am lazy or unkept.
the buzz lightyear got me
Yow this is why I stan Peniel. I remember how much stress he got and even loss some of his hair because of the culture shock he got. Gosh.
That's unbelievable that they would tell you to physically change yourself. Like excuse you, do you want a Barbie Doll as an idol???? I'm glad that Ashely saw that everyone is not worth pleasing. Everyone is beautiful the way they are. Fuck all that other shit, that's not worth it. EVERYONE IS BEAUTIFUL!!!
I need friends like them omg
I don’t know who’s peniel look alike but it sounds very specific😭😭😭
Bro, this is like peniel getting roasted in every way...the last ep he said that they (his company) said he looked like a Lego and this ep he said that they (his company) told him he looked like Buzz lightyear 😂😂😂💀💀
1st a lego now buzz lightyear 😂😂
agencies really care about knees.... wtf
Love from 🇮🇩
as someone who is deeply insecure about myself i think living in korea would be depressing lol
Same here 🥺
It *is* depressing. Korea has the highest suicidal rate in the world (10-19 y/o).
i was today years old when Peniel said "Butt chin" when all this time i preferred calling it as "cleft chin" but now i think i might have to change because it sounds funny lmao
It does a never ending problem... For real for real
i just knew that preppy phase is Abercrombie and Hollister, guess i had my preppy phase too
BM will forever be beauty even if he dont think that is in his best moment.
I like peniel shin's flying funk, and the beauty standard is so ridiculous anyway
Peniel: beauty is just mindset.
I'm like.. Peniel where can i find a guy like you..
ashley idk what your knees look like but they're bEAUTIFUL
YES PENIEL BEAUTY IS A MINDSET!!! We don't give a flying FART about what other people's expectations and insecurities want from us, it's none of our business