Columbus Was NOT a Monster: the REAL Story (Part 1)

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  • @steebo2439
    @steebo2439 Місяць тому +38

    "Christopher Columbus: A Man Among the Gentiles" by Clark Hinkley (pres Hinkley's son) is a great look at Columbus through an LDS theological lens. I highly recommend it. I found the book because I wanted to reconcile the horrible character of Columbus portrayed in media with the Wilford Woodruff account of founding fathers and others who had their work done in the St. George temple. Columbus was one of only four men ordained to be a high priest in that account. While flawed like us all, Columbus was an exceptional man who believed the spirit called him to do what he did.

    • @Dadeeo
      @Dadeeo Місяць тому +2

      And the Book of Mormon teaches that he was indeed led by the spirit. A bad man is not so led.

  • @JCole78
    @JCole78 Місяць тому +43

    Thank you for this video. I’ve been pounding this drum for years now, and it’s nice to have someone else I can point to when I’m shall we say “debating” with those that have fallen for the lies.

  • @cameronsmith5786
    @cameronsmith5786 Місяць тому +9

    FUN FACT:
    Christopher Columbus’s burning desire was to take the Gospel of Jesus Christ to pagan lands. You can see this mission in the very way he signed his name with the following initials:
    S, SAS, XMY, Xpo-Ferens-
    The initials decode to the following sentance:
    Servus Sum Altissimi Salvatoris Xristus Maria Yosephus Xristo Ferens. '
    This translates to ', 𝑺𝙚𝒓𝙫𝒂𝙣𝒕 𝑰 𝒂𝙢 𝙤𝒇 𝒕𝙝𝒆 𝑴𝙤𝒔𝙩 𝙀𝒙𝙖𝒍𝙩𝒆𝙙 𝙎𝒂𝙫𝒊𝙤𝒓, 𝘾𝒉𝙧𝒊𝙨𝒕, 𝙈𝒂𝙧𝒚, 𝙖𝒏𝙙 𝙅𝒐𝙨𝒆𝙥𝒉’
    The last line “Xpo-Ferens”, is a Latin form of Christopher which means “𝑪𝙝𝒓𝙞𝒔𝙩 𝙗𝒆𝙖𝒓𝙚𝒓”

  • @adamb7230
    @adamb7230 Місяць тому +42

    I love this. Debunking the Marxist strategy of falsely discrediting the founders. This should serve as an example for the criticisms of Brigham young and Joseph Smith as well.

    • @brningman
      @brningman Місяць тому +2

      Except some things are just facts, regardless of how much we respect what a person has done. For example, Brigham Young was a documented racist who justified slavery and advocated for it in Utah. Is that discrediting him? Or just stating a fact?

    • @jmut714
      @jmut714 Місяць тому +3

      @@brningman Woah woah woah. Nuance in this comment section? We don’t do that here.

    • @RichardHolmes-ll8ii
      @RichardHolmes-ll8ii Місяць тому

      ​@@brningmanBrigham Young wasn't a documented racist.

    • @landon6339
      @landon6339 Місяць тому +1

      Lol, how is Columbus considered a founder? And what does the work of a 19th century philosopher have to do with it?

    • @brningman
      @brningman Місяць тому

      @@jmut714 I'm not sure how nuanced it is to call Brigham Young a racist. 🤪 But, ya know, he's a product of his time. They were all racists, and yada yada, he was still a prophet. Except not all of those statements are completely true, but I won't tell you which ones aren't.

  • @Jacob_SonOfThunder
    @Jacob_SonOfThunder Місяць тому +23

    Dylan Matthews wrote the Vox article. Say his name! Too often, people reference news articles by the organization that published them, ignoring the author behind the words. This dehumanizes the work and shields individuals from accountability. While news organizations play a role, it's crucial to hold the authors-the ones putting their name to the content-responsible, rather than faceless entities alone.

    • @landon6339
      @landon6339 Місяць тому

      Easy thing to say while hiding behind a pseudonym yourself.

    • @mlucario2262
      @mlucario2262 17 днів тому

      ​@@landon6339, liberal. What's your name? Mine is Ezra Penner.

  • @garymcomber9354
    @garymcomber9354 Місяць тому +20

    Thank you for this content. After hearing the MSM and popular sources attack him consistently it may be hard to side with the scriptures instead.

  • @LaReneJensen
    @LaReneJensen Місяць тому +4

    This is the Columbus I learned about decades ago.

  • @eugenesem2691
    @eugenesem2691 Місяць тому +9

    BBC now;
    These new findings are based on more than two decades of research.
    The study began in 2003, when José Antonio Lorente, professor of forensic medicine at Granada University, and the historian Marcial Castro, exhumed what were believed to be the remains of Columbus from Seville Cathedral.
    Columbus died in the Spanish city of Valladolid in 1506 but wished to be buried on the Caribbean island of Hispaniola. His remains were taken there in 1542 but centuries later were transferred to Cuba before being finally laid to rest in Seville.
    The researchers also took DNA samples from the tomb, and from the bones of Columbus' son, Hernando, and brother, Diego.
    Since then scientists have compared that genetic information with that of historical figures and the explorer's relatives in order to try and solve the mystery.
    The previously widely accepted theory was that Columbus was born in Genoa in 1451, to a family of wool weavers.
    But they now believe he lived in Spain - likely in Valencia - and was Jewish. They think he hid his background to avoid persecution.

  • @timwrightfamily740
    @timwrightfamily740 Місяць тому +19

    It’s crazy that part of the history they gave us of Columbus in school was written by Columbus arch enemy.

    • @williambrewster8112
      @williambrewster8112 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂 honestly isn’t that with everything this is how they change our culture in history. It’s the same thing with World War II. It’s the same thing with the Civil War. Nothing is what it really is.

  • @alindalt2897
    @alindalt2897 Місяць тому +12

    Forgive me for writing before listening…. Wall builders and Cleon skousen are incredible resources to learning more about Columbus . Also there is a book called admiral of the sea. I’ve not read it yet but it was highly recommended. He was a great man. With his faults to be sure… like us all…. but still a man who e was led by the spirit to do what he felt was right. It was those after him who gave him the bad name. My son came home with a report on Columbus Day a few years ago. The info he could choose from to make his report was all wrong. I was furious. So we did a lot of research and he wrote the real report on Columbus. The teacher wrote on his report… good job…. Interestingly…. We have never had another Columbus Day report in this school ever since that day. My children said they don’t even mention him on Columbus Day.

  • @bartonbagnes4605
    @bartonbagnes4605 Місяць тому +13

    It's more connected to your usual content than you make it sound. Columbus is prophesied in The Book Of Mormon to be moved upon by the Holy Spirit to cross the Great Waters to the Land of Promise. And prophesied to visit the descendants of Nephi's brethren IN the Promised Land. And he starts a flood of others moved by the Holy Spirit to come to the Promised Land. And Columbus wrote in his journal that he felt inspired by the Holy Spirit to make his voyages.

    • @dr33776
      @dr33776 Місяць тому

      Prophesied in the Book of Mormon 😂😂😂 that’s a good one

    • @bartonbagnes4605
      @bartonbagnes4605 Місяць тому

      @@dr33776 It is very good. It wasn't until the 1970s or so that Columbus's journals were published, so nobody could have guessed that Christopher felt like God wanted him to sail across the Atlantic. There was no Columbus Day in the early 1800s, so the details of where Columbus sailed, how many times he sailed. The Book Of Mormon gave details that were unknown in the 1800s. That is called prophecy, revealing information that is unknown. And unknowable by a poorly educated 19th century farm boy.

    • @landon6339
      @landon6339 Місяць тому +1

      Ahhh i was wondering why you had to justify columbus, of course it's religious

    • @bartonbagnes4605
      @bartonbagnes4605 Місяць тому +1

      @@landon6339 It's not justification, it's exoneration. Because of people looking for excuses to push their destructive agendas.

  • @Whatiftheresmore1314
    @Whatiftheresmore1314 Місяць тому +10

    Thank you!
    I’ve always had a sacred reverence for Columbus and our founding fathers

  • @alansnow1129
    @alansnow1129 Місяць тому +1

    There needs to be way more movies about Columbus! I don’t think I’ve seen one growing up and past 40 years. Make movies of him

  • @thebeachhouse
    @thebeachhouse Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this! Super insightful!

  • @garyr.8116
    @garyr.8116 Місяць тому +2

    Great video! The Courage Columbus had to lead 3 ships of men across the Atlantic into the unknown...should humble us all!

  • @harmagician1
    @harmagician1 Місяць тому

    Jacob, Having read several books on Columbus, I pretty much agree with your assessment. It is telling that De Las Casas, who was a eye-witnesses of several events and a great defender of the natives, largely vindicated Columbus. One of my favorite books on Columbus is by his son Ferdinand who joined his Dad on the fourth expedition. Ferdinand not only evidences his father's wish that the natives be treated kindly, but also relates some interesting spiritual events. One is the Spirit telling a cacique named Cacivaquel that foreigners "wearing clothes" would shortly come and conquer his people. Another is the account of several ships sailing home to Spain which belonged to Columbus' nemesis Bobadilla. All of Bobadilla's 28 ships were lost in a storm except one, the one carrying Columbus' confiscated gold. Columbus had 4 ships sailing home during the same storm - all 4 of his ships survived. Moreover there's the account of the Lord telling Columbus to trust in the Lord who is with him. My favorite is Ferdinand telling of Columbus sending men ashore into Cuba for drinking water. One of his men saw 3 Caucasian men dressed in white tunics among the natives. I believe these were the 3 Nephites preparing the people for the great change that was coming in their land.

  • @aquabard6095
    @aquabard6095 Місяць тому +19

    I think people are getting the wrong idea about Columbus day. We aren’t celebrating his mistakes, we are celebrating the fact that he paved the way for our great country to exist.
    When we celebrate someone, we aren’t saying they are without flaw, we are saying they were important people in history.

    • @lifetaketwo7662
      @lifetaketwo7662 Місяць тому +1

      It’s called colonizing and it’s wrong and should event be celebrated.

    • @StandforTruth712
      @StandforTruth712 Місяць тому +2

      World history shows the "recolonization" of every part of the world by every group of people on earth over and over again.

    • @landon6339
      @landon6339 Місяць тому

      ​@@StandforTruth712 and that makes it morally okay? Because it happened in the past? What kind of argument is that?

  • @JD-pr1et
    @JD-pr1et Місяць тому +8

    Christopher Columbus A Man among the Gentiles by Clark B Hinckley is an excellent book on the subject, again using actually using primary sources rather than the woke left history revisionism about Columbus.

  • @juliabendixen2184
    @juliabendixen2184 Місяць тому +1

    Really interesting… thank you for sharing details. I’ve heard claims both ways but as yet didn’t find any of them very convincing due to lack of sources. I really appreciate you helping us know where to look.

  • @kittykarcy
    @kittykarcy Місяць тому +6

    Well done!

  • @lynaryoung7903
    @lynaryoung7903 Місяць тому +8

    Thank you. Please do keep it up

  • @traditionalwoman5648
    @traditionalwoman5648 Місяць тому +3

    Michael Knowles debunks the false claims about Columbus as well.

  • @briannicholls2628
    @briannicholls2628 Місяць тому +6

    All watch for all the videos thank you so much this is awesome content I didn't even know existed

  • @AbrahamicAstronomy
    @AbrahamicAstronomy Місяць тому +5

    I think it is important to have charity in judging intent. I have never known anyone in this for money or power, we donate because we want to build up the kingdom of God, we serve only when asked and at great personal sacrifice. I totally understand if you don't believe the same, but please understand we are sincere. Our leaders are not a separate elite from all the members. We all just serve wherever we are our whole lives. Peace brother, looking forward to more Bible videos.

  • @sandrahurst4123
    @sandrahurst4123 Місяць тому +4

    Love this! Fight their lies! Make the truth known, and please, do continue with these videos!!

  • @topazblahblah
    @topazblahblah Місяць тому +2

    Jacob -that dude who made the video you watched did a follow up video where he kinda walked back his position. Not completely, but somewhat.

    • @CMZIEBARTH
      @CMZIEBARTH Місяць тому

      So, Columbus was bad?

  • @urfavragtimeguy3875
    @urfavragtimeguy3875 Місяць тому +1

    THANK YOU for this. I've been so conflicted with the Columbus story, and I love how you used his official diary as a source. I've never understood why we hated Columbus and I didn't know whether or not he raped women or not.

  • @ackhak
    @ackhak Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for this video! I’ve been so saddened by everyone tearing down Christopher Columbus. I tried watching the Part 2 and Part 3 of this video, but they both say the video is private. How can I watch them?

  • @chrischapman5827
    @chrischapman5827 Місяць тому

    This is great. Can’t wait to see the other episodes! Thanks for taking the time to research this!

  • @brningman
    @brningman Місяць тому +1

    These are thoughtful perspectives. It's obviously a complicated story but it's good to understand who he really was. Even if he basically was the beginning of the end of the indigenous people of the area, it wasn't because he was a terrible person.

  • @gustavoabalos3783
    @gustavoabalos3783 Місяць тому +12

    Very good!!

  • @zacharyclark3693
    @zacharyclark3693 Місяць тому +4

    People tend to focus on just the negative or just the positive on certain people from history. People are complicated, thus history is complicated. I think we need to make sure we understand the nuances of historical figures/events to have a more comprehensive understanding.
    And don’t get me wrong. It’s annoying when people incorrectly cite historical sources and push faulty arguments (like uncritically accepting Bartolomé de Las Casas’ account when we know he hated him). But honestly though, it really doesn’t affect me if Columbus was a great guy or not. If he didn’t discover the Americas for the Europeans, then someone else would have. His personal integrity doesn’t affect how I value this country, the people in this country, the Constitution, or the Restored Church of Jesus Christ.
    The Book of Mormon says that he was inspired by the Spirit. Not that he was the most righteous and perfect man besides Jesus. The Spirit moved upon the Reformers and they weren’t perfect (for example Martin Luther hated Jews. Something we can’t accept as good, yet the Spirit helped him see that truth had been lost from the Church. He can be wrong about one thing and right about another). Columbus’ personal moral character makes no difference to me whether or not the Book or Mormon is true or if Jesus is the Christ. Just throwing that out there.

  • @AndreaFord-wn8wb
    @AndreaFord-wn8wb Місяць тому +1

    This was a wonderful analysis of a great historical figure. Columbus has been so maligned in recent years and it is so refreshing to hear a defense of his character! Thank you!

  • @prairiedaugherty4910
    @prairiedaugherty4910 Місяць тому

    Thank you for making this Jacob!
    Also I'm trying to watch the part 2 and part 3 videos, but the links in the description aren't working.

  • @paulmacfarlaneslp9209
    @paulmacfarlaneslp9209 Місяць тому +1

    A friend of mine pointed out that Isaiah 60:8-9 may be a reference to Columbus and his Spanish galleons since the root of his name means "dove" and Tarshish was believed to reference the Iberian peninsula which became Spain and Portugal.

  • @Anonymous_Monkey
    @Anonymous_Monkey Місяць тому +2

    This was great, thanks.

  • @Nate-kw8fu
    @Nate-kw8fu Місяць тому +2

    Great video! Thanks for posting your sources as well, I'm tired of the Columbus slander!

  • @Susiesharp54
    @Susiesharp54 Місяць тому

    Excellent presentation on how people perpetuated lies by “journalists” and why it’s important to do the research for oneself… It appears we all need to do more of that. ❣️❣️❣️ Bien hecho Hermano 👏👏👏

  • @radix133
    @radix133 Місяць тому +4

    Columbus was a complete stud!

  • @wnichols6671
    @wnichols6671 Місяць тому +2

    didnt realize this was new at first and my head was about to explode when the second video was private🤣

  • @LDaw_96
    @LDaw_96 Місяць тому +1

    This is awesome!! Thank you.

  • @jjohansen86
    @jjohansen86 Місяць тому +3

    Around 9:58, this is possibly the worst example of taking things out of context that I have ever heard. Sometimes people take things out of context, but when you put them back in context, it doesn't make it much better. But with Columbus and women being sold into sex slavery, he used the fact that this terrible practice was being done by the Spanish to speak out against the current governor of the Spanish colonies in the Caribbean (mostly Hispaniola). The context literally reverses the meaning of the passages that people quote.
    Columbus did have his sins and mistakes, and he worked within the framework of the Spanish Empire, but he opposed and resisted the excesses of that empire in crucial ways that can't be said of any of the other explorers and conquistadores that followed him.

  • @stanjohnson7754
    @stanjohnson7754 Місяць тому +2

    What? People repeat opinions in ignorance? Naw. You must be speaking about that "Internet" thing that's rumored to exist. ;)
    Seriously, though, thank you for sharing this. Lies need to be countered with facts.

  • @brendamartin3444
    @brendamartin3444 Місяць тому

    David Barton and Glenn Beck have both cleared up the misconceptions and lies told about him, and when you read his personal logs, diaries, letters and other papers, the real Mr, Columbus is easy to see, and he was a good man
    I will not be surprised or offended to see him in heaven…

  • @tuvoca825
    @tuvoca825 Місяць тому +1

    We need to be aware of our biases and assumptions. As well as the original contexts. Biased history is often academia making names for themselves.

  • @gingermcgovern5682
    @gingermcgovern5682 Місяць тому +3

    Jacob will you be publishing a book The Real Story of Columbus?

    • @TheYgds
      @TheYgds Місяць тому +1

      It doesn't sound like he needs to, there are many honest biographies already. I've found this horrible disconnect between well studied historians and political pundits. It is just a shame that Vox and popular culture leeches are more accessible and unaccountable than solid scholars.

  • @dinocollins720
    @dinocollins720 Місяць тому +1

    Another fantastic video! Thank you!

  • @trevor45140
    @trevor45140 Місяць тому

    Thank you!

  • @treystone9464
    @treystone9464 Місяць тому +5

    Have a happy Columbus Day! Eat spaghetti or pizza in celebration of Italian-American heritage and watch The Goonies (1985) written by Christopher Columbus.

  • @darin6958
    @darin6958 Місяць тому +1

    Happy Jaredite Day!

  • @davenell7031
    @davenell7031 Місяць тому +1

    Thank you

  • @itsHeatherKay
    @itsHeatherKay Місяць тому +1

    Great research!

  • @dinocollins720
    @dinocollins720 Місяць тому +2

    Columbus a man of his time to some degree of course, but a great man!

  • @kristenfaux8505
    @kristenfaux8505 Місяць тому +1

    I’ve know for a long time that Columbus is a great guy! Thanks for doing this. The worst mistake we make is trying to hold the past to our standards.

  • @joshsmith5784
    @joshsmith5784 Місяць тому +1

    Excellent!

  • @glycoboy
    @glycoboy Місяць тому

    Where is the great website to see all these quotes so I can copy and paste them?

    • @landon6339
      @landon6339 Місяць тому

      Do your own research

  • @tdwagner1
    @tdwagner1 Місяць тому

    I’m happy I was taught so much of this and am glad his real story is being told, warts and all.

  • @perryewell5395
    @perryewell5395 Місяць тому +1

    So pathetic how Satan tries to demonize honorable people.

  • @truthfromearth
    @truthfromearth Місяць тому +1

    Amen!

  • @balduran2003
    @balduran2003 Місяць тому

    Read the biography Admiral of the Ocean Sea.

  • @tortletrainwrek9335
    @tortletrainwrek9335 Місяць тому

    Please make another episode

  • @loudogg73
    @loudogg73 Місяць тому +2

    maybe the most misrepresented man in history

  • @Lino-r7p
    @Lino-r7p Місяць тому

    First of all his name was not "Christopher Columbus," it was "Cristobal Colon," which is his birth name, the same way that you don't hear anyone calling singer "Julio Iglesias" "Julius Churches,"...!

  • @MrRickb75645
    @MrRickb75645 Місяць тому

    I love Columbus. He was a great person. And many things were said were not even true. He was a man of God. And wanted the natives treated with respect and honor.

  • @ryanbradley3293
    @ryanbradley3293 Місяць тому

    The Book of Mormon testifies that he was brought to the Americas by the command of God

  • @zissler1
    @zissler1 Місяць тому +1

    Good stuff. History is being distorted, within and without the church, to align with agendas. Important to defend both.

  • @ZIONAT0N
    @ZIONAT0N Місяць тому

    You have not read a lot on Columbus , Bartolome De Las Casas a man who converted to be a priest witnessed 3K Indigenous natives who wrote about what happened Columbus was locked up in Spain after returning from his 3rd voyage, why would a priest make up stories knowing God was watching back then God was very respected.

  • @Thomas-vb4bu
    @Thomas-vb4bu Місяць тому

    *Joseph Smith

  • @dustinmower6591
    @dustinmower6591 Місяць тому

    Why are the other videos private ?

  • @lifetaketwo7662
    @lifetaketwo7662 Місяць тому

    Oh he was gonna set the kidnapped people free upon a Christian baptism. Got it. He wasn’t a monster. Buddy. No no no

  • @shireecox122
    @shireecox122 Місяць тому

  • @Dandeeman26
    @Dandeeman26 Місяць тому

    Is this video from last year?

  • @lifetaketwo7662
    @lifetaketwo7662 Місяць тому

    Oh he was gonna set the kidnapped people free upon a Christian baptism. Got it. He wasn’t a monster. Buddy. No no no. The fact that you’re even 1% okay with colonization is so deeply wrong.

    • @WyoCutlass71
      @WyoCutlass71 Місяць тому

      Can I ask you what the alternative was to people colonizing other lands?

  • @clg163
    @clg163 Місяць тому +2

    I agree with your assessment of Columbus completely, but I find it ironic that you defend Columbus while believing the narrative of Joseph Smith's polygamy. There is so much evidence that Joseph Smith did not practice polygamy and was against it. I think if you looked at Smith through the lens that you looked at Christopher Columbus, you would take a very different stance. It seems that you hold Columbus in a higher esteem than you hold Joseph Smith.

  • @dinocollins720
    @dinocollins720 Місяць тому

    Natives were named Indians from "en dios" or "of God." Not a lot of the false ideas we hear today.

    • @zacharyclark3693
      @zacharyclark3693 Місяць тому +2

      Wait, really? That’s interesting. I’ve never heard that before. Where did you learn that from?

    • @dinocollins720
      @dinocollins720 Місяць тому +3

      @@zacharyclark3693 In the late 20th century, some American public figures suggested that the origin of the term was not from a confusion with India, but from the Spanish expression En Dios, meaning "in God", or a similar one in Italian. Proponents of this idea include the American Indian activist Russell Means; the author Peter Matthiessen, author of In the Spirit of Crazy Horse, a view of American Indian history through the life and trial of Lakota activist Leonard Peltier; and speaker George Carlin.
      In his book The Wind Is My Mother, the Muscogee writer Bear Heart (Nokus Feke Ematha Tustanaki) wrote: "When Columbus found the natives here, they were gentle people who accepted him, so Columbus wrote in his journal, 'These are people of God' ("una gente in Dios"). Later the 's' was dropped and Indio became Indian."
      Additionally, many believe the term “India” wasn’t being used at the time of Columbus but “Hindustan.” So it wouldn’t make sense for Columbus to use that to name the natives.
      However, this question is hotly debated. Learning the etymology of words can be very difficult. It’s debated wither Columbus himself said “una gente de dios” or if this was added by scholars later.
      I like the theory and think it makes sense given Columbus did respect the natives (despite modern trends to say otherwise).

    • @zacharyclark3693
      @zacharyclark3693 Місяць тому +2

      @@dinocollins720 that’s interesting. Thanks!

    • @dinocollins720
      @dinocollins720 Місяць тому +1

      @@zacharyclark3693 no problem 👍

  • @porcupinecraig
    @porcupinecraig Місяць тому

    It's been over 500 years since he lived. How does anyone today really know anything about him?

  • @corydrichmond
    @corydrichmond Місяць тому +1

    First!!!

  • @Jay-m2h7x
    @Jay-m2h7x Місяць тому

    I’m hurt and some toxic and abusive relationships are not worth it. Let them go so much more wholesome experiences to be had.

  • @stephenkollenborn4986
    @stephenkollenborn4986 Місяць тому

    He didn't discover America He rediscovered America according to benson

  • @44hawk28
    @44hawk28 Місяць тому

    Columbus wasn't a monster. He was actually very good to the natives. But he also was not a Knights Templar but he did fly the mark of the Knights Templar because he knew the Knights Templar were already doing trade with the Indians before he got to the Americas. He knew that the Knights Templar were getting along with them that way his sudden presence without the proper markings on his boat would not scare them. I understand that he tried to pretend that he was Knights Templar but that failed

  • @davidjanbaz7728
    @davidjanbaz7728 Місяць тому +2

    Jacob is trying to debunk Roman Catholicism: last month: now defending a Roman Catholic.
    Oxymoronism at its finest.

    • @Lodeous
      @Lodeous Місяць тому +2

      How is that an oxymoron? There were plenty of great Catholic people throughout history and plenty of great Catholics alive today. Why wouldn't an honest disciple of Christ want to defend their character from slander?

    • @00Fisher00
      @00Fisher00 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@LodeousI've seen this guy around; he's one of those who just blindly rages against the Church of Jesus Christ. Incidentally, an oxymoron is a group of several words that is self-contradicting, so it's not correctly applied here at all. Even if this guy thinks the channel is inconsistent in its messaging, that's completely different from an oxymoron. Anyway, this man doesn't converse intelligently, so it's probably not worth your while to refute him.

  • @sdfotodude
    @sdfotodude Місяць тому

    The corporation of Mormon is still looking for Columbus's gold

  • @Martinmd12-zt7vu
    @Martinmd12-zt7vu Місяць тому

    1:05 uh oh. That video right there has gotten a lot of responses and has been criticized for being misinformed, so just be careful with this subject.

    • @50calBeowulf
      @50calBeowulf Місяць тому +3

      Not exactly, it's thoughtful and unbiased, then that creator got hen pecked into backtracking on the facts and reasoned deductions presented and the opinions he expressed based on those facts and deductions. Kudos to him for keeping the video posted though.

  • @irajones9952
    @irajones9952 Місяць тому

    Its not that Christianity is bad but because he sailed for the empire with the intent to discover land which is explained in the papal bull of the popes from 1452 - 1493 , you can’t discover land that already has people on it !! to me this was his crime. According to the pope, the only rights natives could enjoy was this thing called “the right to occupancy” like a fish has to water or a bird has occupancy to the sky. believe it or not a lot of these groups were good and raised their families fished hunted and buried the ancestors on these lands and this is the other fallacy that the explorers were guilty of and that’s their thought that if your not Christian your less than or not fully human !! Christianity doesn’t have the monopoly on righteousness and as my study of Columbus has matured I agree he wasn’t a bad guy but his belief system was the bad thing that cause this conflict

    • @SaxSpy
      @SaxSpy Місяць тому +1

      The child sacrifice will stop✋️

    • @loudogg73
      @loudogg73 Місяць тому +6

      Columbus' primary goals were to explore the world and spread Christianity. He was not the Pope.

    • @irajones9952
      @irajones9952 Місяць тому

      @@loudogg73 yeah I get that but he sailed for the pope and the Spanish empire !!

    • @irajones9952
      @irajones9952 Місяць тому

      And used the doctrine of discovery