@@ericlehman6841You are not alone. I feel horribly guilty for him. Like seriously though, if he didn't join the Foot in the first place, he would be using his experiments for innocent and helpful intentions to avoid getting tortured by that metallic armoured psychological Utrom.
At some point I started feeling “come on, him again?” To “Oh no, they resurrected him again” to “oh no… they… resurrected him again…” it’s truly becomes annoying then sad, then kinda horrifying.
Truly, the 2003 team knocked it out of the park with Baxter Stockman. As for Insane In The Membrane, I'm glad they went with the final script, though incorporating things such as him being accepted into university at 14 would've enriched it even more.
Kinda wish he never appeared in Back To The Sewer. Fast Forward has a good conclusion to his character, Leo making him remember that list part of humanity he had left, being commissioned by the Department of Agriculture to restart the Organic Mouser project (In a way, going back to how things were before Season 1), being granted a new body by President Bishop, it actually gave Baxter Stockman a happy ending, or at least a tolerable ending, given that at that point in Season 5, he wanted to die. I get that Back To The Sewer was still present-day Baxter, but it didn’t need Baxter at all, especially since we knew how things would play out for him in 2105.
The fucked up thing with the Wolf Baxter is if you really think about it, Krang was intending to melt him on a molecular level, instead because a fly got in the way he fused him with that cretures genetic makeup in what seemed to be a spoof of The Fly... but actually was one of the things in the wolf series would be one of those recurring times where it got about as horrific as that film... that said, 4kid's Baxter continued to blow my mind that "they are doing this to a recurring character on a kids show!!?"
If he was an ally working with the Turtles then he'd be the wealthiest scientist in existence, but since he didn't do so that ended up with him going through the worst torture imaginable.
Great video. Stockman was one of my favorite side characters in TMNT 2003. All his various forms were interesting and unique. Losing one body part after another, until he was nothing but a brain and eye and he just wanted to die was really dark. I really liked how he finally got a happy ending in the future.
Insane how almost 20 years later I find out that a bizarre reoccurring scene I had as a child was the Organic Mousers in the test tubes and Baxter dying. Sometime around 13:00.
At 13:21 Leo: *_"Baxter Stockman??!!"_* Stockman: *_"IN THE FLESH, so to speak!!"_* *_"Now, Payback Time!!:_* Stockman: *_"If it isn't the Turtles. And here I thought Agent Bishop and I were the only ones who survived, the good old days."_*
Of all the stockmen in TV shows and comics, this one is by far the unluckiest fellow as he lost his mother, turned into a slave for the cruelest villain, torn piece by piece until all that's left is his brain, managed to escape to work for a special agent in return he can clone his own body only to turn into a complete failure and go back to being a brain in a jar it went on for many years into the future so as all as I'm concerned Baxter stockman 2003 is by far the saddest character in the history of sympathetic villains
The petty party that is pretty much have to the majority of this comment section is downright hilarious as they seem to also forget that 60% of his mutilation was his own fault for failing (Yes it's disproportionate retribution in many areas, but still). The rest was because people still needed his brain and couldn't have it without the personality
Well, I checked the dreamwave adaptation for this video, and found it very similar (and at the same time, not the same universe). So it may be its own video (the whole dreamwave universe).
So is boss man doing both torturing him but also giving him new ways to stay alive. Like did they cut off stockman hand than got the okay to put a robot hand.
I feel like Ch’rell is the king of cheating death. That dude survived an explosion with worms, got his ass throw into a frozen planet but got revived, and made a digital copy of himself that happened to materialise into real life.
He’s just like Mr Freeze in the DCAU where he was a head in a jar which it’s kinda comedic just like Arthur Fleck would say that all his life was tragedy but it really is a comedy, well there was that episode that never got released where it reveals that the Garbageman returns and that he was Hun’s brother and season 2 of Fast Forward which you should do too I always thought that Turtle robot that he and Leatherhead made was this version of Metalhead and the cockroach man was this versions Scumbug?
I always really liked this version of Baxter Stockman, mainly because they really developed the character well, also I was confused too when I rewatched the OG series and saw Baxter wasn't African American in the first series.
Y'know sometimes I feel bad for villains but as soon as I hear "he tried killing an innocent person purposely" I lose all sympathy and I'm like "Ah ok. Nevermind."
Thanks for watching! What do you think of this version of Baxter?
This was my favorite version of Baxter in shows
This one is all right but I love the other version in the mirage comics he was a sociopath.
Baxter reminds me of Starscream in so many ways!
Even though he’s a villain, I feel bad for him
Me too.
@@ericlehman6841You are not alone.
I feel horribly guilty for him.
Like seriously though, if he didn't join the Foot in the first place, he would be using his experiments for innocent and helpful intentions to avoid getting tortured by that metallic armoured psychological Utrom.
Hard to feel bad for Baxten when he did this to himself.
I’m convinced that the idea of Baxter constantly loosing body parts and gaining them is just so they could give him a million different looks
How much his brain and eye can still remain alive up to his most final form in TMNTFF
Makes for good toys
Dr. Baxter Stockman as a cyborg (robot) is better than a mutant-fly.
I think it fits better because the dark irony of someone who is obsessed with robots becoming a robot himself.
I swear, every time this guy was somehow brought back to life I groaned. Just let the man die!
At some point I started feeling “come on, him again?” To “Oh no, they resurrected him again” to “oh no… they… resurrected him again…” it’s truly becomes annoying then sad, then kinda horrifying.
Yeah i hated how he kept coming back and then i started to pity him because of what he has to go through
Truly, the 2003 team knocked it out of the park with Baxter Stockman.
As for Insane In The Membrane, I'm glad they went with the final script, though incorporating things such as him being accepted into university at 14 would've enriched it even more.
His brain in a jar still freaked me out at 24
Reminds me of Cain from robocop 2
@@edwinverzosa7655 I’m sorry I never heard about it is it from the video game video or a movie
@@ashleywimmers6481 robocop 2 Cain is removed from life support
@@ashleywimmers6481Robocop is a movie franchise about a man who gets turned into a robot without his consent
@@ashleywimmers6481Is a movie.
The series did have its own Krang. He just got split between Ch'rell, Baxter Stockman, and that Utrom who hated walking on his tentacles.
Well, there was an actual Utrom named Krang as well, but it was just a throwaway joke :p
What the 2003 series did to Stockman made him becoming a Superfly in other iterations look not so bad.
Kinda wish he never appeared in Back To The Sewer.
Fast Forward has a good conclusion to his character, Leo making him remember that list part of humanity he had left, being commissioned by the Department of Agriculture to restart the Organic Mouser project (In a way, going back to how things were before Season 1), being granted a new body by President Bishop, it actually gave Baxter Stockman a happy ending, or at least a tolerable ending, given that at that point in Season 5, he wanted to die.
I get that Back To The Sewer was still present-day Baxter, but it didn’t need Baxter at all, especially since we knew how things would play out for him in 2105.
My favorite Stockman! You kinda feel bad for after awhile especially in the episode Insane in the Membrane!
Yes me tooooo
Poor Baxter gets body horror in every universe even the ones where isn’t turned into a fly does he appear in Rise I haven’t seen much of him
He does briefly, as a boy.
Yes, but he's renamed to Baxter Stockboy
The fucked up thing with the Wolf Baxter is if you really think about it, Krang was intending to melt him on a molecular level, instead because a fly got in the way he fused him with that cretures genetic makeup in what seemed to be a spoof of The Fly... but actually was one of the things in the wolf series would be one of those recurring times where it got about as horrific as that film... that said, 4kid's Baxter continued to blow my mind that "they are doing this to a recurring character on a kids show!!?"
I like that how Mikey called Baxter, Stockmanstein and I like his new looks in Fast Forward.
There was a lot of missed opportunity in Fast Forward.
I wonder if stockman have been an ally if his mother had survived to see him become a successful scientist
If he was an ally working with the Turtles then he'd be the wealthiest scientist in existence, but since he didn't do so that ended up with him going through the worst torture imaginable.
Great video. Stockman was one of my favorite side characters in TMNT 2003. All his various forms were interesting and unique. Losing one body part after another, until he was nothing but a brain and eye and he just wanted to die was really dark. I really liked how he finally got a happy ending in the future.
I don't remember any of this as a kid. This video was so sick after just finishing it I think I'll have to rewatch it again
Honestly I always considered the 2003 Baxter Stockman to be a very tragic character
Insane how almost 20 years later I find out that a bizarre reoccurring scene I had as a child was the Organic Mousers in the test tubes and Baxter dying. Sometime around 13:00.
At 13:21
Leo: *_"Baxter Stockman??!!"_*
Stockman: *_"IN THE FLESH, so to speak!!"_*
*_"Now, Payback Time!!:_*
Stockman: *_"If it isn't the Turtles. And here I thought Agent Bishop and I were the only ones who survived, the good old days."_*
Of all the stockmen in TV shows and comics, this one is by far the unluckiest fellow as he lost his mother, turned into a slave for the cruelest villain, torn piece by piece until all that's left is his brain, managed to escape to work for a special agent in return he can clone his own body only to turn into a complete failure and go back to being a brain in a jar it went on for many years into the future so as all as I'm concerned Baxter stockman 2003 is by far the saddest character in the history of sympathetic villains
The petty party that is pretty much have to the majority of this comment section is downright hilarious as they seem to also forget that 60% of his mutilation was his own fault for failing (Yes it's disproportionate retribution in many areas, but still). The rest was because people still needed his brain and couldn't have it without the personality
The 2003 Baxter Stockman escape death a lot.
Not to be underestimated, he sometimes sabotaged the plans of Shredder and Hun 😂😅
Fun fact: Nintendo did something similar with a character called "Fassad" in a little game called "Mother 3".
Old TMNT had insane body horror
Love it
You forgot the dreamwave comic baxter stockman backstory motivations and the 2003 video game of baxter stockman creating turtle bot
Well, I checked the dreamwave adaptation for this video, and found it very similar (and at the same time, not the same universe). So it may be its own video (the whole dreamwave universe).
So is boss man doing both torturing him but also giving him new ways to stay alive. Like did they cut off stockman hand than got the okay to put a robot hand.
I feel like Ch’rell is the king of cheating death. That dude survived an explosion with worms, got his ass throw into a frozen planet but got revived, and made a digital copy of himself that happened to materialise into real life.
Why can't 2003 Stockman ever wanna stay dead?
Scott Williams could easily voice Boscogn for Berserk.
it's one heck of a character arc
This version of Baxter stockman suffered the most out of all the other versions
He’s just like Mr Freeze in the DCAU where he was a head in a jar which it’s kinda comedic just like Arthur Fleck would say that all his life was tragedy but it really is a comedy, well there was that episode that never got released where it reveals that the Garbageman returns and that he was Hun’s brother and season 2 of Fast Forward which you should do too
I always thought that Turtle robot that he and Leatherhead made was this version of Metalhead and the cockroach man was this versions Scumbug?
Turtlebot existed in the mirage comics
@@tyronleung5276 it did
@@srstriker6420 it was a mech that debut in a ac Farley issue with vampires
I would call it, "tragicomedy". Because although it's kind of sad, it's actually funny in a disturbing way.
@@srstriker6420 dead wrong
They took his mom, they took his ass, and all but his anger!
7:02 You'd think a legitimate scientist would take grants and deals with the government before ever working with the Foot Clan.
its pretty fucked up how brutalised he got and damn that episode insane in th emembrane was like a horror movie
I always really liked this version of Baxter Stockman, mainly because they really developed the character well, also I was confused too when I rewatched the OG series and saw Baxter wasn't African American in the first series.
Wasn't black in an original concept art
When having plot armor backfires.
Y'know sometimes I feel bad for villains but as soon as I hear "he tried killing an innocent person purposely" I lose all sympathy and I'm like "Ah ok. Nevermind."
This Baxter is the best one
I Forgot Stockman Was Voiced By The Narrator From Pokemon
Baxter, the original Superfly!
Baxter may have been a villain, but he didn't deserve all that suffering.
Lore of Cheating Death: The story of Dr. Baxter Stockman - TMNT 2003 momentum 100
That makes me hate shredder even more.
Why.
Brutal
7:06-15:35 lol ❤❤😅😊!
best baxter
Yeah
I really enjoyed this version of Baxter once I was able to get past the race swap. This version was complex and many times I felt sorry for him.
Race swap?
Dr Baxter Stockman did it before
So stockman wanted to smash april i see lol
Rickety Cricket
Ok, but did he get that new body at the end? Since cartoon clip kinda ended before we've seen that.
He did, but we never saw it. I covered that in my latest video about the canceled second season of Fast Forward.
@@TheTurtleNexus Glad to know it, lol. Despite him serving as a villain its nice to hear this character finally got a break
What
Is this show
Something, you know, for kids and teens
This is literally the saddest character in all of fiction to me
I agree. He's one of the few antagonists that I feel sorry for.
He got it coming tho.