As someone who does not live in the United States, I find a massive freight train going down a local street with parked cars extremely unusual in itself.
It's not overly common but it is common enough to not be odd. A lot of the cause of it has to do with simple geography, where the track has to be to both serve the town and maintain a less than 3 percent grade. There are also other reasons, some going back to the 1800s when the older tracks were built.
@@snorman1911 And then it brings to mind the news items about people who buy a house under the flight path of an international airport that's been operating for three-quarters of a century and complain about the noisy airplanes with a "But we didn't know ..."
@Raider19er -- the Red Car was Slightly OVER THE WHITE LINE, and therefore could have possibly been involved in an accident if the Engine has proceeded ahead,,, the Train had the "right-of-way" and could have just kept going,, but would have eventually had to stop and wait for a long period of time since an ACCIDENT would have OCCURRED the White Vehicle behind the Red Car was a lot more OVER THE WHITE LINE and that would have been a secondary crash,,, so the ENGINEER WAS WISE to stop and wait for them both to clear the tracks, before proceeding
@@eaj7319 They are fascinating machines! Have you looked at any steam locomotive videos? They are amazing too. Then there's airplanes and jet engines and space ships. Lots of good stuff to be fascinated by.
I have. There are at least two crossings in Edmonton, Canada where the train has a stop sign as it crosses a busy road. Movements are done with flag people.
To be fair, the entire design of this street is like a traffic engineer's fever dream. I'm sure the tracks existed first, but the town that came later said, if I fits I sits.
The design has it's origins as one of those 'old wild west/frontier' towns (like what you see in old movies), where the town and railroad were built alongside each other and because it was small there wouldn't be a station built. Instead the steam train would just pass through and/or stop in what would be the middle of the settlement (aka the 'main street') if anyone wanted on or off. There weren't any giant cars/trucks/vans etc back then either, just horses and carriages so alot more room on either side of the tracks.
@@Ryukai-san It may have been practical back then, but doesn't logic and sense dictate that when the town grew in size and economically, the tracks should have been relocated, the whole thing should have been redesigned with the train not going through a street. The train going through street is not convenient for either the train or the cars on the street. Its a lose-lose situation right now. As you might already know a train cannot be instantly stopped in case some vehicle or person comes in the way, if it were attempted it might be fatal as the train may get derailed. Even in this video, while the train was stopped and was starting to move again, it took at least a min, for which traffic on either side of the road was held up, and god knows how many more were held up at other crossings since the train is mile long. All those waiting traffic is simply burning fuels adding to the carbon emissions. Not redesigning the tracks/street is a big fail on the town government
Most towns that still tracks on there main streets are very small, the town in this video has approximately 8000 people there for its not financially viable to move the tracks .
Here in the UK we have several cities with trams that share the streets with cars. Nothing beats the excitement of casually driving down a road with a tram behind you. There's a split second thought of "did I just make a major mistake at that junction back there? No wait, I see other cars, I'm good."
My father tells a story of when he was driving down a particular stretch of highway that *just* aligned with the air force base's runway. Look in the mirror, see car, car, car, C-5.
1. Can we appreciate how shiny the CSX locomotives looked 2. The train always has the right of way. The driver of the red car should've waited for the train to pass before thinking on turning
@NickWilde -- yes, the Engines looked superb, and yes, the Train has the "right-of-way" but you must not always insist upon it,,, even in a car,,, esp when a CRASH might occur,,, so the Engineer was SMART to stop and wait,,, since the Red Car was slightly over the white line, and the White SUV behind was a lot over the White Line,,, so a Crash would have ensued if Engineer pressed on according to "his rights"
Well at that point the train slowed to stop because the cars were leaving the parking space and all ended up at the lines. At that point cars go now because I'm slow. Even if they weren't over the line, why make cars wait 1 foot away from the conga line. This is where real drivers, of all vehicles, can see and read eachother and just make the move.
The engineer should have blocked the intersection and given the red car four short blasts to get out of the way, forcing the red and white cars to turn right and yield ROW to the train
The city should pay to relocate those businesses The used to have this craziness in Albany, Troy and Waterford NY. They got rid of the businesses and the train tracks got moved in some cases It was quaint in the 40s and 50s, but now there really isn't any room for this nonsense
at this point, I see that 162 people commented on this video, but of that number only 2 seemed to understand the true reason the train stopped, it was not because of the stop sign, it was because both the red vehicle and the suv were extended over the white line, had the train proceeded, it definitely would have struck the car and quite possibly the suv as well, and might I add Ahhhh, love La Grange drivers, they never disappointe!!!
I know when trains were still street-running in Lafayette Ind, the traffic lites would automatically change to green for the train. It was illegal, but people would closely follow the train to get thru w/o stopping!
Just to clarify things, that track was there long before the pavement showed up. It was most likely there before that part of the town was built. The railroad right of way has probably existed since the later half of the 19th century. Any roads near the tracks would have been dirt, and used by horses. Even when the automobile showed up they tended to be smaller than today's cars, and there were very very few of them compared with today, so space was not a problem. As the area grew more crowded, it became necessary to resort to what is there now, but because traffic was probably nowhere near what it sees now, and people seemed to display more common sense, it worked. Since then... The paving required the railroad's approval, as state and local authorities have no jurisdiction or legal authority over railroads or their property. Railroads fall under the control of the Federal Railroad Administration. The railroad could make them remove any paving on the right of way. BTW, that right of way could be 100 feet wide or more. A 50 foot right of way is common on short lines. It is quite possible the railroad owns the whole street and made an agreement to let the town use it. The railroad has superior rights, and cannot be forced to move. So either the people pay more attention, or the town can close the street.
You can hear air setting over the 1st Xing and the Eng. stretching the train to a stop. A smart move anytime you are in populated areas like that so one can pull a pin. Clean landing for a vehicle train too, hats off.
Apparently some people do not realize a train extends more than two feet on both sides from the rails. Nothing tells an engineer he has to yield to a car! He chose to do so to avoid the headache of involving the police, the NTSB, and his dispatch. Not to mention he would be blocking that crossing and all the crossings the train would be blocking for hours.
@ Dennis B, I read through all of the comments hoping that at least one person realized at the outset that the car was over the white line, therefore, had the train proceeded on the car would have been struck. You sir was the only one who picked up on that fact. I was a bit shocked at that, it was glaringly obvious why the train actually stopped.
Not only would the train have struck both idiots who were over the white line but probably muliple cars parked next to them would have been struck as well. In reality both the red car and white truck should have been given tickets for their poor judgement. But honestly, there isn't enough room to safely clear the diagonally parked cars on that side of the street. The solution would be to narrow the sidewalk and give the parked cars more room. The point is whoever designed that street is an idiot.
Probably not. In older east-coast cities, towns existed before there were railroads, and they just figured out a path for the trains when the railroad was built. You can be sure that the line has been there since the 1800s though -- today, the "NIMBYs" would never allow a railroad through a town like that.
This video is awsome! Why? Not only show us a 5 star engineer , and besides that it´s so funny!! When the engineer honks the horn at the stop sign and then the red car obey like a puppy! Just a great vid. I never catch this things live on VRF cams. Thanks Virtual Railfan
I'm sure it's in their timetable to be at restricted speed through this area. You have to be able to stop within half the range of vision. He did what was required.
@@woodalexander If the train stopped on the other side, it looks like he would clip the vehicles. Both vehicles seem to be in the foul zone. It's a bad situation for all concerned.
@@essartee76 It might be a clear signal, but the timetable speed might still be very low for that area. since I don't have that timetable, I really don't know what the restrictions are. I don't watch these vids very much, but every one I've seen, the train is moving pretty slowly.
It's 10 mph until the leading end covers all crossings, then 20 mph until the train clears town. When running on clears and approches, there is no requirement to stop within half the range of vision.
Oh, I used to watch a live stream of this very intersection. It relaxed me for some reason and let me go to sleep! I wonder if that live stream is still on nowadays? I miss it.
Wow, that engineer definitely had patience, but I'll also guess that seems to be the norm in places like La Grange and Ashland. Ashland, please dont infect any other train towns? Please?
I was more impressed by the cross traffic after the two oncoming vehicles completed their right turn. The engineer sat there for so long that it could have been confusing for the cross traffic. Possibly thinking that either he was waiting for them to go or that for some reason he was not going to proceed. Kudos to the cross traffic for waiting!
If it wouldn't have been for the cross arms being down, I'm sure cars would've started to go regardless how close the train was to crossing the street. As impatient as people are anymore combined with the lack of common sense, the train might've been forced to sit there longer waiting for traffic to go EVEN THOUGH the train always has the right of way. The way people drive anymore they figure "If I can beat "it" or "them" then I'll go for it." For the train's sake, Thank God for cross arms being there to hold the people back or else the situation could've went from a simple 2 minute stop to a 2 or more HOUR stop simply from an impatient driver getting clipped trying to beat the train.
I've had a train do that one time, it was approaching slowly at a crossing, and I came to a stop at the line, and he waved me through.. Always pay attention to that..
I don't know why, but I love seeing trains running down the middle of a paved small town road. The only one I have seen close to me was a spur track that served a zinc mine down the street from my in-laws house in Jefferson City, TN. They abandoned the line and took up the tracks over 20 years ago. I wish NS would have left the rails in place for the few blocks it served in the middle of a paved street.
So is this where they filmed "The Polar Express"? Only other time I've seen tracks running down the middle of the street, outside of the industrial side of town.
I’m not gunna lie, if I was the engineer, I would have just kept creeping forward. They are either going to move real quick, or I’m going to move them real quick. Yes, I’d be a horrible engineer, but people crowding the rails drives me crazy.
what a wonderful video,and thats a really cool engineer and csx should be dam proud of his actions which were wonderful. plus neatest thing ever regardles was seeing a train stopping at a stop sign letting the cars go. gotta be a wild experience because your talking about king of the rail (road) the train this is a machine that demands our attention in alll ways especially paying attention and deserves all your respect. lord knows i do, i love trains but also i respect them as well as respect the driver of it. remember engineer's aren't robots and when something happens and it causes fatality think about what the poor train engineer is going through i watched several engineer videos concerning this issue and its heart breaking due to the toll it takes on him or her
Also the train line in this town blows. You can see it in the top right of th video near the end how the road jumps over to the left of the line then cross diagonally over, at that diagonal there’s no indicators, so when you’re coming up the roar opposite the train was moving here you can’t tel if a train is coming up from behind, ive had some close calls there
1:09 - 1:28 = Give props to that CSX Train Conductor!! The guy in the red car better of waved thank you as he crossed in front... It ain't every day train conductors are THAT COURTEOUS and treat TRAIN CROSSING'S like a 4-Way Stop!! That Conductor deserves a raise!!
@@AmmyWulf What you see here is called "street-running" Trains are usually limited to 10 mph through these sections due to the obvious danger of hitting a car. If it is a regular crossing, trains will go over them at whatever track speed is.
Anyone know how many gallons of fuel are required to start up from a stop on a train like this? I know these locomotives are crazy efficient at speed but how much does it cost to let a sedan turn right in front of you?
Honestly I've never seen such a intersection before. It's easy to understand the 2 cars could have been initially unclear . Kudos to the engineer for reading the situation for what it was.
What's the story behind these crazy streets? Are they very common when a train shares rights of ways with other vehicles? Does the train get priority or is it just regular rules of the road? Up here in Toronto at least buses get right of way when pulling back into traffic.
Trains always have right of way. Tracks in the middle of streets like this, for regular freight trains, is rare in most of the US, but a few cities on the east coast have them. (Keep in mind the time frame of when trains became popular -- in the western US, cities were built around the railroads, but in eastern US, the railroads had to find a way through the cities, thus the tracks in the middle of the street when that was the only way through.)
I see this as kinda BS cause we are told our WHOLE lives that TRAINS have the right of way and this and that. You start messing around, changing the rules "to be nice" things can go awry. Am I wrong for seeing it that way? There are patterns, methods and a "flow" to traffic and varying that seems dangerous to me, IMO.
Whilst the train would have the right of way in this crossing, it has to let those two cars go first as they have crossed the white line in the middle. The two solid white lines are the clearance for the locomotives and wagons. It is a helpful tool for both road users and engineer.
@@bobdabuilder4989 it's been proven time and again that bending traffic rules to be nice causes more accidents than just following them to the letter. Ever seen what happens at a four way stop when all four cars want to be nice and let the other guy go first? It's chaos.
Loco drivers have very little power and an enormous amount of responsibility. If he hit any non railroad traffic he would probably lose his job. That is why he was so patient. Every move being watched by rail traffic controllers so he has to be very careful.
I like how everyone is all about the stop sight. That wasn't the issue at all. It was that those cars had plenty of time to make their turn before the train got there. If anything the issue was the person stop, waited, made sure the train was going to let them though. Those engineers probably have to deal with that all the time lol
I'm surprised the gates didn't go up when he parked... which would have caused a huge chaotic mess that close to the intersection, particularly when he would have needed to start moving into the intersection to get the gates to reactivate all while all the cars were dashing across the grade crossing (not to get stuck for a good 10 minutes)
If you look at the crossing in the distance, you can see that traffic resumes after a minute. They do indeed go back up if the train stops far enough away from the crossing
@@AlbertaTrackside there is no Crossing down there that's an unprotected one.. I believe there's only one actual Crossing signal but I could be wrong I haven't Google Earth searched LaGrange
When a container is opened in transet it would alert the engineer if they numbered and instaled a switch where it could. give. a car just like defect. detetcted. a car count. and alert the engenere. would know At least they would give a better chance of getting the uper hand !!
Great job CSX engineer. Hopefully, town planner can solve the parking issue. Thinking about safety. How to avoid incident and how to reduce the impact if it happen.
I have not seen such trains and traffic side-by-side on a road in India.USA such a huge country and does not have separate roads and rails for cars and trains?
@dreadz0ne345 I get all that, but the train appeared to almost idling up until about 2:10 or so when he clearly gave it some juice. It just seemed like he was waiting for the cars. Not to make a big deal out of it or anything, just and observation. No doubt the driver, with his bird's eye view was doing what he needed to do.
@@48306jw Might have been waiting for brakeline pressure to build back up to an acceptable level. With our safety laws and having to report nowadays he might have had to do a quick near hit ("miss" in some people's parlance although if you nearly hit something then you missed it but if you nearly miss something then you hit it) log report and/or radio it to dispatch. I'm just speculating and definitely would like to know from someone who knows exactly what occurred during the delay period and knows what he's talking about.
@@KuptisOriginal Yes, I know there is a lot more that goes on than what the casual observer would know about unless they're in the business. Odd place for a train track though. I'm guessing the train was there first and town grew up around it.
Everybody gangsta till the train turns on the turn signal and goes right
Mother of God.....
Just like that one GTA mod
Lol this comment reminded me of that scene from the movie Wrongfully Accused. If you haven't seen it just search for Wrongfully Accused train scene.
Lol
@fx 1988 It's not a BMW.
Trains have been running this stop sign for years. Glad to see they are finally obeying the law.
You so silly lol.
I know right! Those train drivers gotta get their act together!
Strange, came down here to the comment section to post the exact same thing ... "great minds think alike" ...
The engineer must have gotten a ticket recently
It needs a right turn only sign there.
As someone who does not live in the United States, I find a massive freight train going down a local street with parked cars extremely unusual in itself.
It's not overly common but it is common enough to not be odd. A lot of the cause of it has to do with simple geography, where the track has to be to both serve the town and maintain a less than 3 percent grade. There are also other reasons, some going back to the 1800s when the older tracks were built.
We have an odd habit of building towns around railroad tracks. Then the town gets large and all the newcomers complain about the RR crossing.
@@snorman1911 And then it brings to mind the news items about people who buy a house under the flight path of an international airport that's been operating for three-quarters of a century and complain about the noisy airplanes with a "But we didn't know ..."
@@scottfw7169 haha that's a good one too.
I am from the United States and I find a freight train going down a local road with cars parked on either side very unusual.
“This road ain’t big enough for the two of us.”
“No, seriously, get out of the way.”
lol.
Just start running through at 25 mph. They’ll learn to stay clear pretty fast.
Driver of the red car: “I don’t know why that train honked at me, I was at the stop sign first!”
@Raider19er -- the Red Car was Slightly OVER THE WHITE LINE, and therefore could have possibly been involved in an accident if the Engine has proceeded ahead,,, the Train had the "right-of-way" and could have just kept going,, but would have eventually had to stop and wait for a long period of time since an ACCIDENT would have OCCURRED
the White Vehicle behind the Red Car was a lot more OVER THE WHITE LINE and that would have been a secondary crash,,,
so the ENGINEER WAS WISE to stop and wait for them both to clear the tracks, before proceeding
Raider19er • Whooosh
try explaining that one to Geico.
@@Bl4ckw0lf1 LOL they could add it to their list
@@brucemoose9587 Both idiots!
I’m a 35 year old woman who has never really thought about trains and recently I’ve become so fascinated by them. They are awesome 👏
EA J cool story bro
Business Goose I’m just trying to figure out why I have a latent appreciation for trains. But thanks 🤷🏽♀️
@@eaj7319 They are fascinating machines! Have you looked at any steam locomotive videos? They are amazing too. Then there's airplanes and jet engines and space ships. Lots of good stuff to be fascinated by.
Join the club. No seriously look for a model railroad club, or railfan club in your area, you’ll learn so much from them.
Welcome to the addiction.... I mean...there could be a worse addictions to get...Right?!?!
Ive never seen a train stop at a stop sign lol
You never stop at the stop sign on your bicycle
@@douglascorley6630 No,no I don't :/
@@douglascorley6630 Well there's a difference since the train is on the road and is driving alongside the cars.
I have. There are at least two crossings in Edmonton, Canada where the train has a stop sign as it crosses a busy road. Movements are done with flag people.
To be fair, the entire design of this street is like a traffic engineer's fever dream. I'm sure the tracks existed first, but the town that came later said, if I fits I sits.
The design has it's origins as one of those 'old wild west/frontier' towns (like what you see in old movies), where the town and railroad were built alongside each other and because it was small there wouldn't be a station built. Instead the steam train would just pass through and/or stop in what would be the middle of the settlement (aka the 'main street') if anyone wanted on or off. There weren't any giant cars/trucks/vans etc back then either, just horses and carriages so alot more room on either side of the tracks.
@@Ryukai-san It may have been practical back then, but doesn't logic and sense dictate that when the town grew in size and economically, the tracks should have been relocated, the whole thing should have been redesigned with the train not going through a street. The train going through street is not convenient for either the train or the cars on the street. Its a lose-lose situation right now. As you might already know a train cannot be instantly stopped in case some vehicle or person comes in the way, if it were attempted it might be fatal as the train may get derailed.
Even in this video, while the train was stopped and was starting to move again, it took at least a min, for which traffic on either side of the road was held up, and god knows how many more were held up at other crossings since the train is mile long. All those waiting traffic is simply burning fuels adding to the carbon emissions. Not redesigning the tracks/street is a big fail on the town government
Most towns that still tracks on there main streets are very small, the town in this video has approximately 8000 people there for its not financially viable to move the tracks .
It took a moment to recharge the train air pipe. Some people don’t know what to do with a train in the middle of the road.
Get the h*** out of the way is the smart thing
I was wondering about that and why it took him so long to get going again.
Here in the UK we have several cities with trams that share the streets with cars. Nothing beats the excitement of casually driving down a road with a tram behind you. There's a split second thought of "did I just make a major mistake at that junction back there? No wait, I see other cars, I'm good."
My father tells a story of when he was driving down a particular stretch of highway that *just* aligned with the air force base's runway. Look in the mirror, see car, car, car, C-5.
I’d be out the train window yelling MOVE!
I think some guy on the right hand pavement yelled or waved at the red car driver to move.
@@treadingtheboards2875 yeah i think ur right . he did something of that nature
I would get out of my car, give you a nice finger and stay there for a while. You can continue screaming out of your window.
*locomotive
1. Can we appreciate how shiny the CSX locomotives looked
2. The train always has the right of way. The driver of the red car should've waited for the train to pass before thinking on turning
The prob was the white SUV , he was over the line and into the RoW , if the train had pressed on whitie would have lost his whole drivers side.
@@mikemalo47 The red car was over too!
@NickWilde -- yes, the Engines looked superb, and yes, the Train has the "right-of-way" but you must not always insist upon it,,, even in a car,,, esp when a CRASH might occur,,, so the Engineer was SMART to stop and wait,,, since the Red Car was slightly over the white line, and the White SUV behind was a lot over the White Line,,, so a Crash would have ensued if Engineer pressed on according to "his rights"
Well at that point the train slowed to stop because the cars were leaving the parking space and all ended up at the lines. At that point cars go now because I'm slow. Even if they weren't over the line, why make cars wait 1 foot away from the conga line. This is where real drivers, of all vehicles, can see and read eachother and just make the move.
The engineer should have blocked the intersection and given the red car four short blasts to get out of the way, forcing the red and white cars to turn right and yield ROW to the train
Professionalism at it's finest!
Where i come from, seeing a train drive down the street, would normally indicate that somebody has put something in your drink
“This town aint big enough for the two of us”
“Cause youre a big locomotive”
The city should pay to relocate those businesses
The used to have this craziness in Albany, Troy and Waterford NY.
They got rid of the businesses and the train tracks got moved in some cases
It was quaint in the 40s and 50s, but now there really isn't any room for this nonsense
@@ocsrc Or make them only accessible by sidewalk.
1:24 a train giving a car the ROW!? Now that is somethin' you don't see everyday!
Probably because he can’t go down that street with cars next to him without the cars going “squish”
It's easier to give way, than to do the collision paperwork.
It's more the GTFOW
at this point, I see that 162 people commented on this video, but of that number only 2 seemed to understand the true reason the train stopped, it was not because of the stop sign, it was because both the red vehicle and the suv were extended over the white line, had the train proceeded, it definitely would have struck the car and quite possibly the suv as well, and might I add Ahhhh, love La Grange drivers, they never disappointe!!!
You should see the recent la Grange grab bags lol
@@jeffgarrett2114 omg, I missed it, gotta look it up, thanks for the heads up
Give that engineer a raise !!!
I know when trains were still street-running in Lafayette Ind, the traffic lites would automatically change to green for the train. It was illegal, but people would closely follow the train to get thru w/o stopping!
at least one person knew what to do... kinda. the dark suv at the far end
But why'd they pull back out a second time? Lol "Oh he's still there -- I thought he turned."
@@lcmark It's Kentucky, what do you expect?
Just to clarify things, that track was there long before the pavement showed up. It was most likely there before that part of the town was built. The railroad right of way has probably existed since the later half of the 19th century. Any roads near the tracks would have been dirt, and used by horses. Even when the automobile showed up they tended to be smaller than today's cars, and there were very very few of them compared with today, so space was not a problem.
As the area grew more crowded, it became necessary to resort to what is there now, but because traffic was probably nowhere near what it sees now, and people seemed to display more common sense, it worked. Since then...
The paving required the railroad's approval, as state and local authorities have no jurisdiction or legal authority over railroads or their property. Railroads fall under the control of the Federal Railroad Administration. The railroad could make them remove any paving on the right of way. BTW, that right of way could be 100 feet wide or more. A 50 foot right of way is common on short lines. It is quite possible the railroad owns the whole street and made an agreement to let the town use it.
The railroad has superior rights, and cannot be forced to move. So either the people pay more attention, or the town can close the street.
CSX: Don’t judge my looks. Im a ordinary vehicle I obey laws and stop at the stop sign.
But do you use a turn signal? lol
@@TheRealScooterGuy The turn signal is on the track.
You can hear air setting over the 1st Xing and the Eng. stretching the train to a stop. A smart move anytime you are in populated areas like that so one can pull a pin. Clean landing for a vehicle train too, hats off.
Apparently some people do not realize a train extends more than two feet on both sides from the rails.
Nothing tells an engineer he has to yield to a car! He chose to do so to avoid the headache of involving the police, the NTSB, and his dispatch. Not to mention he would be blocking that crossing and all the crossings the train would be blocking for hours.
@ Dennis B, I read through all of the comments hoping that at least one person realized at the outset that the car was over the white line, therefore, had the train proceeded on the car would have been struck. You sir was the only one who picked up on that fact. I was a bit shocked at that, it was glaringly obvious why the train actually stopped.
Not only would the train have struck both idiots who were over the white line but probably muliple cars parked next to them would have been struck as well. In reality both the red car and white truck should have been given tickets for their poor judgement. But honestly, there isn't enough room to safely clear the diagonally parked cars on that side of the street. The solution would be to narrow the sidewalk and give the parked cars more room. The point is whoever designed that street is an idiot.
He stoped for the allway stop sign! LOL
I assume the train line was there before the town?
Probably not. In older east-coast cities, towns existed before there were railroads, and they just figured out a path for the trains when the railroad was built. You can be sure that the line has been there since the 1800s though -- today, the "NIMBYs" would never allow a railroad through a town like that.
Nothing is quite as surprising as seeing your own town show up in a UA-cam recommended video
the bad drivers are thinking: "i have the right of way, i knew it."
This video is awsome! Why? Not only show us a 5 star engineer , and besides that it´s so funny!! When the engineer honks the
horn at the stop sign and then the red car obey like a puppy! Just a great vid. I never catch this things live on VRF cams. Thanks
Virtual Railfan
I know the train was moving slow but still amazing to see that kind of smooth braking control on something that big. Skills!!!
In all my life I've never seen a train stop at a stop sign
I'm sure it's in their timetable to be at restricted speed through this area. You have to be able to stop within half the range of vision. He did what was required.
Train has ROW. Should have stopped on the other side of the intersection and given that car four short blasts until it cleared the ROW
@@woodalexander If the train stopped on the other side, it looks like he would clip the vehicles. Both vehicles seem to be in the foul zone. It's a bad situation for all concerned.
That's not true whatsoever. Trains run on clear signals through here.
@@essartee76 It might be a clear signal, but the timetable speed might still be very low for that area. since I don't have that timetable, I really don't know what the restrictions are. I don't watch these vids very much, but every one I've seen, the train is moving pretty slowly.
It's 10 mph until the leading end covers all crossings, then 20 mph until the train clears town. When running on clears and approches, there is no requirement to stop within half the range of vision.
He had the rest of the road, why couldn't the train move over a fraction? 🤔🤣
I hate it when trains double park like this!
Because might makes right!
He totally missed his turn. He was supposed to make a right at the stop sign, follow for a mile and then make a hard left. Rookie engineer.
That'd be a long wait at that crossing gate
Indeed.
Tnx to those two idiots.
👏👍Nicely done CSX.👍👏
Oh, I used to watch a live stream of this very intersection. It relaxed me for some reason and let me go to sleep!
I wonder if that live stream is still on nowadays? I miss it.
Wow, that engineer definitely had patience, but I'll also guess that seems to be the norm in places like La Grange and Ashland. Ashland, please dont infect any other train towns? Please?
@@LegendaryRadioJock Were they not from there either? Which would make it even more funny
So when there’s no train in the area, can cars drive straddling the tracks like it’s another traffic lane?
I was more impressed by the cross traffic after the two oncoming vehicles completed their right turn. The engineer sat there for so long that it could have been confusing for the cross traffic. Possibly thinking that either he was waiting for them to go or that for some reason he was not going to proceed. Kudos to the cross traffic for waiting!
They couldn't go, the gates were down on both sides of the cross traffic.
If it wouldn't have been for the cross arms being down, I'm sure cars would've started to go regardless how close the train was to crossing the street. As impatient as people are anymore combined with the lack of common sense, the train might've been forced to sit there longer waiting for traffic to go EVEN THOUGH the train always has the right of way. The way people drive anymore they figure "If I can beat "it" or "them" then I'll go for it." For the train's sake, Thank God for cross arms being there to hold the people back or else the situation could've went from a simple 2 minute stop to a 2 or more HOUR stop simply from an impatient driver getting clipped trying to beat the train.
Now I'm new to seeing trains one roads like this, did the train have to go by the stop sign?
Would Never had believed it...if not seen it.
Like the Ol West..train right down main street.
Its honestly kinda hilarious to see a train stop at a stop sign like a ordinary car
I like how the trained stopped for the stop sign!
I don't understand why a town would put parking spaces on both sides of the rail tracks there ... Kudos for the engineer for his patience .👍
Wow a GE and an SD40 in a lash up. Never thought I’d see that outside of TSW 😅
I've had a train do that one time, it was approaching slowly at a crossing, and I came to a stop at the line, and he waved me through..
Always pay attention to that..
And always check the second track.
I'll never understand people! 🙄
Pretty good lashup! A shiny CSX YN3b AC4400CW and YN3 SD40-2!
I don't know why, but I love seeing trains running down the middle of a paved small town road. The only one I have seen close to me was a spur track that served a zinc mine down the street from my in-laws house in Jefferson City, TN. They abandoned the line and took up the tracks over 20 years ago. I wish NS would have left the rails in place for the few blocks it served in the middle of a paved street.
So is this where they filmed "The Polar Express"? Only other time I've seen tracks running down the middle of the street, outside of the industrial side of town.
Nothing out of the ordinary here, he was just obeying the rules of the road.
I’m not gunna lie, if I was the engineer, I would have just kept creeping forward. They are either going to move real quick, or I’m going to move them real quick.
Yes, I’d be a horrible engineer, but people crowding the rails drives me crazy.
You'd probably has lost your job. No matter how tempting such things are, physically pushing them out of the way is unlawful.
what a wonderful video,and thats a really cool engineer and csx should be dam proud of his actions which were wonderful. plus neatest thing ever regardles was seeing a train stopping at a stop sign letting the cars go. gotta be a wild experience because your talking about king of the rail (road) the train this is a machine that demands our attention in alll ways especially paying attention and deserves all your respect. lord knows i do, i love trains but also i respect them as well as respect the driver of it. remember engineer's aren't robots and when something happens and it causes fatality think about what the poor train engineer is going through i watched several engineer videos concerning this issue and its heart breaking due to the toll it takes on him or her
Awesome! You wouldn't want to be in a hurry waiting for the train to pass. Would be a fun scenario in Train Sim world :)
Fantastic job on engineers part! Needs to be honored and praised! Hopefully CSX took note!!👏👏
Great video Virtual Railfan Can you add a DC camera?
Trainboy073 Friendly channel ツ it might or might not happen. Virtual Railfan only does popular camera areas
Were either of the car drivers named Karen? "Let me speak to the manager of this train!".
Interesting and inconvenient design. I am glad the conductor is so patient.
Strange to have the train running through a town like that. Was the town built around the tracks initially or the other way round?
Also the train line in this town blows. You can see it in the top right of th video near the end how the road jumps over to the left of the line then cross diagonally over, at that diagonal there’s no indicators, so when you’re coming up the roar opposite the train was moving here you can’t tel if a train is coming up from behind, ive had some close calls there
Train was like "After you lady ".
Now, that's what I call a bona fide full stop at a stop sign!
That is the cleanest train I have ever seen. In winter even. Impressive.
1:09 - 1:28 = Give props to that CSX Train Conductor!! The guy in the red car better of waved thank you
as he crossed in front... It ain't every day train conductors are THAT COURTEOUS and treat
TRAIN CROSSING'S like a 4-Way Stop!! That Conductor deserves a raise!!
I'm sure the conductor had nothing to do with stopping the train.
Was the loco brand new? It looked shiny!!
No, the lead locomotive has been around since the 90’s and the second engine was built in the 70’s.
@@MattsTrainArchive thanks!!! How awesome that this engine is so shiny even after 30 years of use, amazing how companies keep these things clean!!
@@elioarmas-rojo8601 They do repaint them every now and then if they get too badly oxidized and/or paint comes off. Same with airplanes.
I don't know how some people manage to even put socks and shoes on each day.
Don't see any mention of it, but you did a brilliant job capturing the lovely sounds of that diesel!
Anyone else find it cool that a freight train runs down Main Street occasionally, just y’know because it can
It's a lot more than occasionally - it's at least a couple of times a day.
I seem to be blocking a train. I guess I'm gona wait here for him to move!
What camera setup do you use for these shots?
It’s a live camera. The cameras look like security cameras.
1:16 Nice train horn.
Oh how the tides have turned
Trains waiting for cars now
@@AmmyWulf What you see here is called "street-running" Trains are usually limited to 10 mph through these sections due to the obvious danger of hitting a car. If it is a regular crossing, trains will go over them at whatever track speed is.
Sometimes the speed limit is reduced if the train is passing through a residential area with many crossings.
Anyone know how many gallons of fuel are required to start up from a stop on a train like this? I know these locomotives are crazy efficient at speed but how much does it cost to let a sedan turn right in front of you?
Do they always stop at that stop sign, or was it because of those two cars? I wonder why he took so long to start moving again afterwards.
How nice of the train crew
of chessie seaboard /csx to let the red car pass 👍
Honestly I've never seen such a intersection before. It's easy to understand the 2 cars could have been initially unclear .
Kudos to the engineer for reading the situation for what it was.
Explain to me how the cars ar " in the wrong". Are they not supposed to drive on that road? Where does it say so?
👍 Nice Catch - a friendly train driver
What's the story behind these crazy streets?
Are they very common when a train shares rights of ways with other vehicles?
Does the train get priority or is it just regular rules of the road?
Up here in Toronto at least buses get right of way when pulling back into traffic.
Trains always have right of way. Tracks in the middle of streets like this, for regular freight trains, is rare in most of the US, but a few cities on the east coast have them. (Keep in mind the time frame of when trains became popular -- in the western US, cities were built around the railroads, but in eastern US, the railroads had to find a way through the cities, thus the tracks in the middle of the street when that was the only way through.)
You would be completely flabbergasted when the engineer parked the first unit between the cars at the street side and walked into a shop.
I see this as kinda BS cause we are told our WHOLE lives that TRAINS have the right of way and this and that.
You start messing around, changing the rules "to be nice" things can go awry. Am I wrong for seeing it that way?
There are patterns, methods and a "flow" to traffic and varying that seems dangerous to me, IMO.
I agree engineer should have crept forward blasting four short blasts for the red car to make a right turn and yield ROW
No, but this train goes on the road, so it isn’t like a grade crossing. Engineer did a great job and these situations are common.
You are WRONG. You a hole.
Whilst the train would have the right of way in this crossing, it has to let those two cars go first as they have crossed the white line in the middle. The two solid white lines are the clearance for the locomotives and wagons. It is a helpful tool for both road users and engineer.
@@bobdabuilder4989 it's been proven time and again that bending traffic rules to be nice causes more accidents than just following them to the letter. Ever seen what happens at a four way stop when all four cars want to be nice and let the other guy go first? It's chaos.
What is the outstanding part? Stopping at a stop sign or taking a minute to start back up?
I’ve always wondered why railroads would build tracks literally down the middle of city/town streets. For what reason did/does that make sense?
To quote one Willy Wonka... "strike that... reverse it" i suspect history would show the town built the town around the tracks
@@brandonmuir5117 yes. Correct. This rail line has been here for a long time and so has this town.
If only people were like that: All the power and still observing and respecting everyone else around them.
Loco drivers have very little power and an enormous amount of responsibility. If he hit any non railroad traffic he would probably lose his job. That is why he was so patient. Every move being watched by rail traffic controllers so he has to be very careful.
I like how everyone is all about the stop sight. That wasn't the issue at all. It was that those cars had plenty of time to make their turn before the train got there. If anything the issue was the person stop, waited, made sure the train was going to let them though. Those engineers probably have to deal with that all the time lol
And his ability to drive in a straight line is grade A! ;) Love these city train lines...
Does CSX just casually run AC4400CWs and SD40-2s together or is this rare?
I'm surprised the gates didn't go up when he parked... which would have caused a huge chaotic mess that close to the intersection, particularly when he would have needed to start moving into the intersection to get the gates to reactivate all while all the cars were dashing across the grade crossing (not to get stuck for a good 10 minutes)
That's precisely why they didn't go back up
If you look at the crossing in the distance, you can see that traffic resumes after a minute. They do indeed go back up if the train stops far enough away from the crossing
@@AlbertaTrackside there is no Crossing down there that's an unprotected one.. I believe there's only one actual Crossing signal but I could be wrong I haven't Google Earth searched LaGrange
really rail track in the middle of the road??? which country it is ??
It’s the USA and the tracks and this town are very old, so they made things different back then.
La Grange, KY, USA which is shown on the title screen within the first 10 seconds of the video.
Makes me question the driving ability of the citizens of LaGrange.
I think the driving in la grange in appaling.
The train obeys traffic sign. He yields to on coming traffic. They proceeds. Give him/her an award for best scene.
Not sure how YT recommended this video to me now, but I live just a few miles from here.
What was the pedestrian doing at 1.06?
Great job by the engineer.
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they numbered and instaled a switch
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defect. detetcted. a car count. and
alert the engenere. would know At least they would give a better chance of getting the uper hand !!
Great job CSX engineer. Hopefully, town planner can solve the parking issue. Thinking about safety. How to avoid incident and how to reduce the impact if it happen.
What is the location of this place??? Can you give GPS coordinates???
I have not seen such trains and traffic side-by-side on a road in India.USA such a huge country and does not have separate roads and rails for cars and trains?
The cost is the issue. The town was probably on one side without the road then they built more.
Maybe I'm missing something, but the crossing gates were down, why was the train seemingly waiting for the cars, they couldn't move. Just say'n.
@dreadz0ne345 I get all that, but the train appeared to almost idling up until about 2:10 or so when he clearly gave it some juice. It just seemed like he was waiting for the cars. Not to make a big deal out of it or anything, just and observation. No doubt the driver, with his bird's eye view was doing what he needed to do.
@@48306jw Might have been waiting for brakeline pressure to build back up to an acceptable level. With our safety laws and having to report nowadays he might have had to do a quick near hit ("miss" in some people's parlance although if you nearly hit something then you missed it but if you nearly miss something then you hit it) log report and/or radio it to dispatch. I'm just speculating and definitely would like to know from someone who knows exactly what occurred during the delay period and knows what he's talking about.
@@KuptisOriginal Yes, I know there is a lot more that goes on than what the casual observer would know about unless they're in the business.
Odd place for a train track though. I'm guessing the train was there first and town grew up around it.
I thought I read somewhere that CSX was going to use other tracks to stay out of downtown LaGrange.