Do I Cheat When Painting?
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2018
- Hello ^__^ This video is to answer some questions I've been asked about tracing or reference images
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Hello, my name is Jamie, I do art, “how to” videos, crafts, fun silly things, and random stuff.
I love Disney, Studio Ghibli, Nintendo, Mario, visiting fun places, my chinchillas, Da Vinci, fine art, laughing at modern art, and Merlin
Also I’m married but still a massive child :’) and that’s okay
There is nothing "off" in your art. Familiar with a touch of magic is more like it.
Well said!
amen
Abia Worshiper hahaaha your comment made me laugh.....^ω^
THIS
Its difficult for me to understand how someone could call any of that cheating. Before writing, you outline. Before animating, you storyboard. Before painting, you sketch. It just prepares the ideas so you can go in with a plan.
Wow, Well said.👏
I couldn't agree more.....^ω^
On the internet there are more people who actually don't know what they are talking about. Most of them don't even know that they don't know.
@@Astharia but sadly, that doesn't stop them from voicing, often quiet loudly and quite horribly, their own vaunted opinions. the internet is lovely and horrible all at once.
@@39Bosski , it's funny how the less a person knows, the more they tend to want to tell you about it. Especially on the internet.
I actually improved greatly in my art because I would trace :( I would trace the Teen Titans and before that I couldn't draw hands and was too scared. After I kept tracing the hands I understood them a bit more and they became less scary to attempt on my own. As long as you don't trace a drawing and call it your own original work I don't see anything wrong with it.
I agree
Same that's the only thing I respectfully didn't agree with in this video too. I think Jamie's still amazing and if not tracing is how she learns best that's great for her but I think it can help other people starting out. Sorry still love you Jamie!
@@zoomie7 Quite honestly, I beleive that is because she does not neet it, and never did. She is simply too talented, she does not "think" or work the same way as most people. She was giving her honest opinion, but what helps improve is different for everyone, it's ok!
Also, I've already seen sketching at cheating, but as Neu dae said, only if you call it your own (it's just not)
i trace things to practice using colored pencils
Reference pictures is not cheating... Lol. EVERY SINGLE professional artist I have met that draws from life uses reference photos. Personally I draw from life and sometimes take pictures so I can refer to them later. Im not capable to just 'remember' how things look 100% and I believe that applies to most if not ALL artists. So when artists say they "remembered perfectly how an animal looks or a character looks like" I call BULLSHIT. Yes, people can draw things so much that they end up remembering how to replicate it, but that's rare if not impossible unless you have a photographic memory.
Art is the imitation of life and as long as someone isn't tracing every single thing then it is NOT cheating what so ever.
P.s
Also tracing does help for beginners to understand proportions but don't rely on it because your skills will only grow to a certain extent
Also drawing from memory is still using reference. The references are just memories you've collected by using your eyes. Same thing but the references are just murkier and less detailed. People need to rely on actual references in order to produce artwork that is anatomically correct for example. The idea that references are "cheating" is so childish and I can't even comprehend how some people believe that.
@Underswap Papyrus
I see what you mean but in the art world drawing from life isn't seen as a reference. It is an original source. References are things that can be taken with you that refer back to the scene
i love what you said here.. also, tattoo artists trace out their designs on the body before going at it with a tattoo gun.. the image left on the skin is a LOT more than just the traced outlines. Not many people have that good of a memory that they can remember every single aspect of everything they see in life, and reference photos and pictures are a great source of inspiration.
Katherine Choi yeah literally EVERY artist I've ever talked with has said over n over please use a reference that's like their main advice
Ive been drawing this one character for fun and even if I'm drawing him over and over each time I still have to go back and make sure Im drawing him right. It's difficult to remember things lmao
This comment is not directed towards you Jamie... because if anyone knows about this that would be you, but I do not consider referencing cheating at all. Sometimes classmates will look at my art and be like “woah that’s so cool! Did you use a reference?” I would say yes since I did and somehow they take it as less legitimate or something. It would be 300% more impressive if I can just draw a realistic human face just from memory, but guess what, most people probably can’t. When drawing something literal, especially realistic, it is *recommended* to use references, that way the final product will look better.
Also I just wanted to say the Toy Story music box is just the best...
I agree 💯%. I'm a BFA art student and posted something similiar.
Although my drawing prof. tells us not to use pictures (he's all about drawing directly from the source) I do it anyway! I don't have time to sit for 10 hrs at a freaking zoo whilst half the time the animal is moving around. If it's a building or scenic drawing I'll draw from the source but there is a thing to be said for the passage of time/ changing sky colors and light sources. It seems cruel to be forced to only draw from the source when the environment is changing.
That being said I do take very detailed initial sketches from life but also take a lot of reference pics. because realism/surrealism is what I do.
Agreed. Artists like Chuck Close use references as well, and no one can say that man doesn't have serious talent. I think its because of the age we are at where artists on social media are developing art styles in order to post frequent work, and once you have a style down references aren't needed as much so people just presume its like that for all styles of art. When attempting more hyper realistic works in particular, a reference is pretty much essential.
look at the difference, A man paints a realistic portrait using reference: ua-cam.com/video/f-TYO0cGFmQ/v-deo.html
two months later the same artist attempts realism without reference: ua-cam.com/video/qu9KNUxAfBY/v-deo.html
Don't get me wrong, they are both incredible but there is a clear difference. He chose to do it in black and white rather than colour, the second eye seems bigger than it should be to, the space between the hair and side of face is off, and it looks a little like the woman had been face tuned around the jawline, under eye and mouth. I don't see how using photo references is any different from using Windsor and newton paints vs dollar store ones. It just makes it easier, it doesn't detract from the effort we put into it.
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You make a very good point. When I draw people without references they certainly are not bad, but they certainly are not realistic. I have a very unique style when not using a reference but that's not what I personally am going for.
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The color pencil with paint hack just changed my life.
I never thought of that!!!! I am such a pre-painting sketcher (I'm awful at proportions so I constantly have to check myself) and I always get so annoyed when the grafite smudges with the paint and I never thought to use color pencil! Especially because I can use the erasable ones!!!
THANK YOU FOR THE TIPPP
I often hear people say that using references is cheating...But this is so wrong. References are sooooooo important. Even if you think you know how a thing looks like, chances are high that you still don't get it 100% right at the end. Even big, experienced artist use references. For example, draw something from your memory, a cat, a horse, or an apple, everyone knows what these things look like, right? But what you remember and what a thing really looks like can be very different. But when you use a reference and see details you maybe forgot, your art will be become better.
yeah references are really important!! they’re definitely not cheating
How the ever loving fudge do you cheat at painting! This lovely cupcake is insanely talented. How do you cheat I’m so confused. She’s just awesome.
I know right I was thinking the same thing. Some people are just jealous that they are not as talented as she is.
BlueJayTay I’m not sure if it’s jealousy like I don’t think using techniques like grids is cheating anyway you’re still making the art yourself and not taking credit for someone else’s work. But just what do they think she’s stealing paintings? Does she has a secret twin? How can you cheat?
Some people call tracing cheating but she obviously doesn't do that
you can actually use tracing for transferring your original sketch over to your canvas. cause redrawing a realistic head, is a real pain in the butt and I frankly dont have the patience to redraw the damn thing! and if I screw up the painting at least I have the sketch
Tracing does actually help. My brother traced as a child and learned how to draw. He can draw renascence level artwork now as an adult. - I don't think any of these things are cheating! :O
I love your art videos!
i agree. i used to trace a lot to practice and now i do portraits.
Parasol Mushroom Art I trace hands a lot and I can freehand them most of the time now. I think it has a lot to do with breaking up the shapes and muscle memory.
I found that tracing a lot growing up helped me to draw with a steady hand and more confidence later on when I switched to freehand.
Tracing for practice is fine.
The wrong side of it is artist's who trace another artists work and try to pass it as their own.
I did animation and we were always told tracing poses and using references is the best way to learn. For our final films we were encouraged to act out every this shot and film it so we knew the angles of the camera and lines of action. I’m more of an illustrator and pose references are still so valuable!
Tracing does help a lot actually! It helps you get a feel for how the art piece you're working from has its anatomy and sizing and proportions laid out, however this mostly applies to when you're doing a figure that you want to make look accurate/a very specific style/realistic. You might be doing the same mistake over and over with your art and not realizing what exactly is wrong with it, and by the same branch, you might not realize what it is about the reference work that's different from yours, even though you're looking right at it. Tracing over things helps your hand and muscle memory get a feel for how the lines work together and how to sort of intuitively lay out the style you're trying to achieve. It helps many, many artists grow and improve. Many professionals recommend tracing! Of course, the ONLY reason you should do it is for personal research and practice and never to contribute to your final piece, and certainly not for theft! Many others in the comments here seem to agree. That's fine that tracing never did anything to help you personally, but it is a very helpful tool for many beginners :)
Personally, I think tracing - if used correctly - can help a lot with developing muscle memory for drawing, as well as better understanding/being able to break down different elements to an artwork. That said, practicing or getting used to those different elements through tracing is what it is, usually - practicing, getting used to it. More often than not, it's not used to create final, original pieces, I don't think, but it can really help people if it's what works for them
Sometimes i use a trace/charcoal transfer of a few lines when i'm starting a big painting. In the past, i've found that i've got half way through the painting then blamed my sketch for why it isn't looking the way i want it to. I find that if i trace a couple of bits, i don't have that excuse to give up.
That said, more often than not i do just draw freehand. I definitely wouldn't recommend relying on tracing but i don't think it's cheating or a big "no no".
Aw im sorry that people are accusing you of cheating :( they just cant believe that youre that skilled at painting :D
Oh my goodness! I feel bad that you dropped your kettle and got burned. I hope you leg heals well, Jaime!
P.s. I love your artwork. Your videos are so joyful. 😊
ImperfectMind it'll probably take a while to heal, it's huge! I don't know how she's not in pain. Hopefully it won't scar
Her personality is so infectious! Love her 💖
You looks absolutely gorgeous in this video, it's different from how you usually dress. But beautiful.
Love the hair!
Your burn looks awful! Did you manage to get it under some cold water? 😫
How was she not crying? Did she even put some cream or something on it?
Pip A cold water is bad for burns apparently (ya girl got boiling water on her foot) you should use lukewarm or warm water
Melany Perez Yes, I think you’re right. Ice cold is a no, but the temperature that comes out a tap should be fine! Nonetheless, it was large enough that she probably should have seen a nurse or doctor.
Pip A yes but after it cools down, it could be followed up by cold water.
I’m so thankful that you said colour pencils, instead of grey pencils! That was a wonderful tip! They are all helpful!
I love her process of coming up with ideas for paintings!
Thank you for sharing your process, Jamie! A concept sketch is not cheating. I do a very similar thing when I make an outline before I start writing a book. Like your sketches, it rarely resembles the finished piece. I also do research before I write, especially if I'm unfamiliar with a subject my character would know. Right now, I'm looking at wilderness survival books for a fantasy character who is a hunter of sorts. It's been a long time since Girl Scouts, so I might try some of the camping stuff in my backyard so I can describe it properly.
Techniques help artists interpret and inhabit their creations. They're tools, like brushes and pencils and word processing programs. 😊
youre so adorable and just so sweet and nice. and just down right talented! ive never seen an artist get this much doubt over their art...it truly means you are just beyond talented.
OMGOSH YOUR SO TALENTED HOW ARE YOU REAL YOU MAGICIAN
Boiiii! Jamie, ur videos are so nice and comforting to watch, they make me feel so giddy and happy and ur art is bloody brilliant. Ur such a bubbly, talented bean. Thank you for the wholesomeness in my sub feed
Your art is amazingggg and so are you! The amount of dedication that went into the process is a loooot and definitely worth it. Love the giraffe painting 🤟🏼
This answered so many questions I had! Thank you so much. I turned 30 this year and thought I’d take up painting, it’s been so much hilarious trial and error and I’ve been watching artists on UA-cam for tips on how they work, and as you don’t do as many ‘tutorial’ videos I was just watching you for fun and inspiration. So this was a pleasant surprise and much needed! Especially this topic as my reference sketches are currently taking more time than the piece itself, so I’m doing something wrong 😅
We did that grid thing in shop class, in like middle school? Everyone was excited to see how 'cool' mine turned out. Mine looked horrible. But the kids who couldn't draw well at all- theirs looked amazing. The shop teacher went on to explain that artists who've matured past a point usually struggle with it. (like myself). And that beginners sometimes have a lot of luck.
Thank you so much for giving us more details! You've inspired me to make more original concept pieces :) Love the vloggy bit at the end too 😊
I love the length of this video!! Yay more time with Jamie!!
Omg this video was adorable lol I love the little vlog part. I hope your leg is ok! You have such amazing pieces and I love your view on artists always growing because its so true. Thanks for sharing!
your artwork is so incredibly lovely, and I'm really glad you put all this time into researching and using proper references too! I think it's something artists neglect because it feels like cheating, but using references is how you learn as long as you don't trace... (also i really like your outfit)
I love art books like that! I have Ratatouille and BH6 ones and it's so cool to see all the concept art!
It’s so cool your paintings are in the actual Disney building! That’s brilliant!
The burn!! Ouch! I hope it healed ok.
Your sooo talented. Keep up the amazing work.
I just watched an older video of you and now this and your voice sounds like it's really coming out. It's great :))
Your videos have the most cozy and positive vibe ever 🧡
“I feel like a child right now” hehehehe JAMIE JO YOU’RE AWESOME 💖
Every time you talk about your art processe it just makes me love your art even more ❤️
I love knowing the behind the scenes of your paintings! I would never have thought you go to the zoo before painting!
I never suspected you cheat or lie to your subscribers. I've been watching you since you only had around 10-20 videos on your channel and honestly I've been so inspired by your talent. I think you are an amazing artist and, to be honest, I may be a little jealous. I love your work and can't wait to see your future projects 💗.
Jamie, I love your work! I have been watching your videos for a year now and I am so proud of you! You know how to put your talent into action and keep creating wonderful pieces of art!
I'd hope to see more videos, like Q&A, drawing/painting techniques, painting tools, motivations/galleries. And I think it is not a bad thing to repeat/redo stuff that you already filmed few years ago, just to 'update' or 'refresh' them if you want.
Keep it up!
Greetings from Germany ;)
I absolutely love your artwork!!!
Interesting talk on what is considered "cheating" in art. One of the best ways to learn to draw is a scale divider, which I did a video on it. It allows you to scale up from a photo, yet not become a crutch for always using it as you learn the proportions. Thanks for sharing!
Got my beautiful postcard prints. Thank you so much they're wonderful. Got them to brighten up my room and it works! Your artwork is awesome.
Your hair looks super adorable!! Thank you for sharing your "secrets" 😋🙌❤️
You are an amazing artist! Love seeing how much your channel has grown you deserve it you so talented. 💕
I just looked at your Etsy shop, my word dear, you are not charging enough! Your work is breathtakingly beautiful!
I would love to see the full process, from the idea that you just thought in your head to the final product :)
I love your art so much, and these things definitely aren't cheating! also that's so cool that u have your work hanging in Disney hq! !💙💙
You inspire me- and I hope there’s that video on artists/sources that inspire you... I’d love the see your art book collection as well! I’m diving into your videos and I love your art, thanks for sharing. 🌸
I love YOURE videos and how bubbly and open you are :)
Your hair looks AMAZING in this video!! Ur just so beautiful and awesome omg
I got really happy when you said your art style is surrealism! cause last year I got to do a pamphlet on two artist and describe their styles and I said yours was surrealism! So I'm happy I got that right!!
You are a beautiful painter! I LOVE your work!
Your an incredible artist and creator. Thank You for sharing, your quiet inspiring. I'm always trying new projects and seeing how there received.
You’re my fav artist I just love your art work it just wows me every time.
I LOVE your hair like this!
I love the slug painting behind you, so cute!
Can't wait for all those videos!! Hope your leg gets very healed
I hope the burn is healing well Jamie! Keep up the good work, i may need to check out your etsy shop to order some prints.
I loved this type of video!! I really enjoy seeing your process and research because it shows how much effort goes into producing your natural talent 😊 I’d love to see more bts like this please! 💜💕
Your art is amazing, love it 💖
Tracing is actually entirely helpful. My drawing level before I traced was literally toddler-level. I'm not a good drawer, but my skill now after tracing is a thousand times better. It taught me how to draw shapes and how to follow references. I know so many people and artists who actually have traced at some point to help improve their knowledge and understanding of the subject they desire to draw.
I love the sound of 'something that looks familiar but theres something off about it' ahaha so cool 🤗🤗🤗🌸🌸🌸 im currently attempting to figure out my style as wellll, you inspire me to keep going ❤
I love the ice cream & goldfish painting so much :D x
Your voice is so sweet , cute and soft I love it!I can hear you talk about this all day!
You are just an art genius, and so very talented.. and have been since the beginning, even your earliest videos you can see the immense talent you have. Jamie you are so awesome! 🎨 fan art Zuko painting soon? Lol
I smiled though the hole video
Jamie you are so cool as always. The hair and make up were on point. And thanks for showing us the Etsy store ! 😁
I adore your work! especially the ghibli inspired stuff! I really want the painting of kiki and jiji. it would look so nice in my office 💕💕💕
Hi just want to say that I think your paintings are beautiful and watching your videos always makes me happy :)
You have a talent for painting. You don't need to explain yours self. I love your channel. You are fun and I feel happy watching your channel. It's so obvious your Art is your expression. Ideas can not be owned. Putting your style is what individulizes ones Art.
Amazing and lovely video. So much wonderful artwork ;) "cat get out of the shop" was hilarious :D
I hope your leg will heal very soon! Love your under the stairs etsy-shop and I think your cat is super cute :3
I'm so excited for those prints
You need more subscribers. One of my most favorite art channels on youtube.
I always get a kick out of your vids and this made the no school weekend way better and you probably wont see this but you have given me so much motivation because i almost stop art because i wasn't improving the speed i wanted so when i saw you paint i thought im sure if i worked hard i can do it too! so thx and sorry if it sounds clieshe
When I started I used the grid method. It helped me learn about shading, porportion, detail and so forth. It's a good tool to use when learning.
I can't wait to see your zoo trip and sketching video! that's so cool!
I'd LOVE a video on that Studio Ghibli book
You are really talented dear...it's just magical
I'm loving this outfit on you...it really screams sophisticated artist to me!
Love this look girl. Damn, you work it.
Your work ethic is incredible and you are so talented, inventive and lovely 😊 💜
Love you jamie!💛💛💛
Already excited for your zoo trip video! Yay!
This was such a lovely, lovely video!
Cheating??? I highly doubt it.... You are my favorite artist and one of the most talented people o UA-cam....^ω^❤️
all of your paintings look so magical also you look so prettyyy an androgynous icon in that trenchcoat
Omg you're so awesome at art!!
Your style is 100% magical realism!
I hope you have a lovely day too! 💜
Jamie , i love seeing how much you've grown since I first started following you . Both in your character and your channel
Your room decoration is amazing
I love your paintings they are so beautiful and realistic
Oh I hope your leg is ok, plus I love your hair in this video!
Your art is so amazing I can't believe you don't have more subscribers! You deserve way more than a million you make such beautiful paintings and you're just so adorable!!!! Im sitting here being angry that you don't have more you deserve it!!! I hope you see this and ily!!!!!❤❤❤❤
People just need to appreciate your hard work and other artists hard work. You can't really cheat unless you're intentionally stealing art and claiming it as your own! art is art enjoyyyyy! Beautiful artwork