Bought my 1st Honda 2000 generator on June 2001 Have over 11,000hrs on it. Pull rope replaced once and two spark plugs. Oil change every 100 hrs and still runs great. I do have a second Honda 2000 so I can parallel them together for A/C in my 5th wheel trailer.
Bought my first Harbor Freight Predator generator in 2015. It has 9 hours on it. I ran it for an hour to break it in and run it for 1 hour a year, changing the oil at the end of each run. It's for emergency power outages which we seemed to have have had a lot before I bought it, but none since. It'll get another hour in June 2024. In fact, I've had to replace the runtime meter once as it's battery operated.
@@janofb Hard to believe in this day and age.....but concerning the Harbor Freight item, I believe if you buy the extended warranty, you can return the generator for a new one, no questions asked ! When I first heard this, " Too good to be true ", I phoned my local Store and spoke to the Manager, and he confirmed the exchange program ! The Predators seem to get good reviews, and I believe they too can be run in parallel ! Have a friend that purchased one, and was surprised how it ran for something like 10 hours before needing refueled ! Not sure what kind of load he had, but his is quite happy with his ! And it would be hard to complain about their exchange program ! 👍😉 Just Say'n !
I have two Honda generators. One is at least 15 years old. Yes it was expensive. It cost almost $1100 back then. But It’s quiet and sips gas, it will run 6-8 hours on 1.1 gallons of gas. We power a travel trailer with it and use the trailer in temperatures as cold as teens or 20’s during hunting season. When gas soared over $4 a gallon that really saved us money.
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If you ran the battery down on your car and you had the Aceup with you you'd probably figure out what that 12V outlet was for provided you had the battery charging attachment.
I got a 10k/8k Firman for $1k. Would never consider the Honda at the prices they sell. Firman is a solid machine and they publish instructions for switching from field use to house connection ground config. Absolutely no complaints.
I read alot of complaints about genny noise well that all boils down to the type of exgaust muffler used a simple switch out to a higher quality muffler will reduce the noise levels, And yes I do know what im talking about as i am a small engine marine mechanic for last 30 yrs and this is a very common problem ! And honestly if your power is out and you dont yave hydro and your neighbour helps supply some power to your house to help you out whuch is one thing i do when the situation arises from time to time There is never a complaint or crying because the exhaust is a little loud because the muffler has to be changed out after running so long !
Pro tip" it's amazing what a little extra distance can do for noise. If you are camping, just use a slightly longer power cord and place the unit on the other side of your car.
A properly built foam box or a box with noise canceling materials inside can make a very big difference as well. Of course you need to make sure there are holes so the unit can breath and heat can escape. I've seen a basic foam box with one side missing make a huge difference (that pink insulation material), you could barely hear it at all- just face the missing side of the box away from wherever you are going to be- that gives it lots of breathing room and all the sound is directed away from you, and in hot and/or sunny places it gets a bit of shade/protection from elements. You could always add a low powered fan to it too or maybe a box fan (pretty sure they're very low power)
Thanks so much for sharing this! I don’t know a lot about generators, but I feel like you explained the pros and cons in a way that even a dummy like me can understand!
I did the same thing in 2022 and the one I found was $225. Looked very similar but it was light blue in color and had different controls. Luckily for me I thoroughly examined it before actually trying to start it. I added a little fuel and started smelling it really bad immediately afterwards. I had to completely tear it down to access the fuel tank. What I found was a bad O-ring on the fuel outlet that was dripping fuel directly onto the front panel's electronics. I fixed it with a new O-ring easy enough, but if I had started it and walked away (like you would with any generator) it would have at least destroyed itself and possibly burned my house down too.
Living in a state where non-ethanol gas is not available at the pump, my first questions for any off brand or cheap generator: Are spare carburetors available? How Much are they? and How easily are they changed? One thing about Honda is that their parts are ubiquitous. Ont eh other hand, I do like that this unit does not seemed to be hindered by the ticking clock of a non-user replaceable CO sensor.
More often than not these generators are clones of some generator or another. I wouldn't be surprised if a honda carb fit this generator, but it may need rejetted.
FYI, they sell kits that have a replacement cap and floater that will refill the tank of small generators. When the gas gets below a certain level, it pumps gasoline until the floater turns it off. Hook it to a 5 gallon tank and you've got 60 hours at 25% ...
I could see it for a trailer/camping, but not household backup. These things don't reduce the noise that much. I found the most effective noise suppressor to be distance, as in putting it in the garage on the far side of the house away from the bedroom with an exhaust extension to the outside. For the price of this "quiet" generator, I got 4400 watts and can run the whole house off that.
Honda is undoubtedly excellent, but it is too expensive. I would be more willing to purchase Aceup Energy, as it is more cost-effective and affordable compared to Honda.
The Honda is running at a lower RPM in all the tests you did.. that would probably indicate lower power output from the engine... Should also do a a max output load test to see if it will even do the rated amount. Harbor Freight often has deals on similar generators.. You can get a warranty and a local place that will exchange it if it breaks in that warranty time. For the slight premium in price there I would probably do that. I have a couple HF gens.. one tailgate model.. a little 2 stroke one.. its over 10 years old.. still runs great. I added a small fuel filter and changed the fuel line to some better stuff when I got it. The second is a 2400 Watt Inverter gen... also works great. One feature that seems to be missing on these now.. is a separate fuel shut off.. If you are not using them regularly.. being able to drain the carb of fuel by running it dry will vastly lengthen its life before a cleaning is needed.. especially with ethanol fuel.
I bought a 2300 inverter gen from CPO tools..$235 I run in on my boat. Swim deck. To run the shore power AC and everything else on our 30ft Sea Ray..5 years running strong
There are alternatives between the AceUp and the Honda also. I have a Champion 1700W/2000W that has been great for 10+ years. I originally paid $400 but now they are up to $800 (Canadian). Still a lot less than a Honda.
I bought my Honda 3000 watt generator in 2006. I have used it from 10,600’ elevation to literally sea level. I replace 2 batteries and change the oil */- every 100 hours. I am glad I spent the money. For my house, I have a Generac 20kw standby with ATS and 300 gallon propane tank. It is the best.
How about building a quick tripod to place over the generator and draping it with a tarp and a blanket? To muffle the sound. I guess you would have to make sure air gets in to this small tent, made from sticks and paracord + blankets. Just an idea. This would also stop rain or snow from reaching the generator. Anyway great upload thx!
There are actually small tent like apparatus you can buy to protect them from the elements and muffle some of the noise. I talk more about it in this video - ua-cam.com/video/q9h2LTLd748/v-deo.html
If you really want to make these things quiet build a small V shaped enclosure out of pressure treated 4x4 posts sunk in the ground. Cover both sides with plywood and fill it with sand.
Great video! I am currently working on converting an all aluminum empty trailer into an rv/toyhauler. I’m wondering how I can achieve the highest thermal protection and best sound deadening properties. I’m building in from the aluminum shell and every inch I can save in wall thickness and every ounce I can save in weight is precious. Imo saw in another vid you encourage new questions, so I thought I’d just leave my question here. Thanks for the very informative material 👍👍👍
Any 12 V device! 12 V devices are usually found in RV's and campers, like coffee makers, lights, and tools. Don't forget about running your Ham Radio rig from 12 V.
I'd probably opt for the cheaper generator, I already have a 1kw off grid solar setup for back up, but in the winter months you need a lot of solar so this would make sense on days where I need to recharge the batteries
Yeah I have one of those generators I put 30 hours on it and then went to pull it the next day the pull rope broke didn't think it was a big deal but it'll cost you about $300 just to fix the pull rope because you have to take the entire thing apart to get to The recoil assembly
I have a question regarding MLV, which I know you are a huge advocate of. I would like to know your thoughts on the comparison between MLV and Tecsound SY, which comes in a 10kg per square meter version. Which would you recommend as the best material between two layers of drywall? Again, many thanks for all the great content you've produced on UA-cam!
You forgot to mention charging a battery, which happens quite a bit if you are camping for a week and constantly using your car to charge other portable devices... or you left the trunk open and the light inside killed the battery after a few days.
how loud it is, doesn't effect the load. Who cares how loud it is, we want to what can you actually use on it. You boiled water?? that's it? i though you was gonna hook up some power tools, a frig, a stove.
@@jasonandersen5975I mean you’re not wrong but how loud\quiet it is makes no difference if it doesn’t produce consistent and reliable output. Pretty sure that was the point virgil was making.
Virgil, boiling a kettle is a good test of power as a lot of kettles are 1500+ watts. As they're converting electricity into heat it saps a lot of juice. A lot of power tools are around that if not less. Just as an example my compound mitre saw is 1500w peak. It'll run at less than that once moving. Kettles are a good way of testing generators to be fair 😅
Don't start out backwards. Determine what you must have running (including it's surge demand amps/watts)and buy the generator sized to your needs. The Honda and Yamaha generators have a generous surge capacity and don't instantly quit as soon as you put a load on them that temporarily exceeds their rated capacity, cheap generators it's a crap shoot. Running a Air Cooled generator is costly because they are inefficient so you might want to buy two. I actually have 4, a 4,000W one that will run everything I really need in the house. I would have to bring another (3,000W) online if I wanted to cook, do laundry and run my electric dryer. My air conditioning and refrigerator are "soft start" so I don't experience high surge loads. Expect 2.5 gallons of fuel to run that generator at 90% capacity for 12 hours if it says 10 hours at 25% capacity or 600W. 600W might be refrigerator TV and lights and a small fan. This might be enough, but it isn't for me. My main generator is 4200W inverter and it runs about 4 hours on 2 gallons of fuel at 80% load. Take a grain of salt with their estimated runtimes at whatever % load. Water cooled generators would be about as quiet as your car, use much less fuel and outside of expensive and high capacity construction site equipment, are hard to find. You can park a solid object between you and the generator to redirect sound or build a sandbag revetment or put the generator farther from you but you need to use heavy extension cords for that like 12 or 10ga because at 120V 100 feet of 16/3 extension cord could reduce your voltage down to 105V or so and the lower the voltage the more amps you draw. 240V is more forgiving 12ga to 14ga could be good enough. It's all about the Budget, in money and power and that's why having at least two generators is a good thing. You can shut one off when you need less power which is why I recommend you size primary generator to what you Must run so it has only about 20% extra capacity and have a second generator you can run for cooking, washing, drying and so forth.
Great video dude except for one or two very big bloopers but more about that in a tick but for me personally the EU2200 Honda Generator is by far the best choice as far as noise level and performance is concerned with a realistic run time between 3.2-8.1hrs albeit shorter than the stated 10hrs from the running time of the AceUp AI 2300 which as most of us can agree there needs no further comparisons nor introductions that should be necessary. Although if you are being entirely honest in respect of your presentation dude then you've kinda let the cat out the bag so to speak when you stated at 1:23 'and just to let you know this is not a sponsored video' which certainly does not come across as entirely accurate revealed by the hashtag alone. It's only when we are being presented with the AceUp AI 2300 generator compared to the Honda EU2200 then the blatantly obvious elephant in the room is in your statement dude that you made at 3:05 before immediately recommending the latter for the Honda generator but with no AceUp generator in sight, would it not be fair to say that if this is not a sponsored video then could we ask you to pull the other one dude?? 😆👍
You have much more faith in the common man than I do that you would be surprised by 20% one star reviews on anything with moving parts. I normally look at 4-5 star reviews and add them. Then I look at the 4- 3 star and below for common things that can go wrong.
I will agree Honda makes a great generator BUT it's out of most peoples price range. Like you said you could buy 4 of the Chinese generators to 1 Honda. How you break a generator in and maintain it plays into how long they will last. I own two Pulsar generators they work great.
It says table saw and shows a chop saw. My table saw has a 3 by 4 foot flat table with the motor hanging under to create tension for the drive V belt. Not sure that would power an Actual table saw then
When the power is out you want to power your main thing that is going bad after a few days. Your refrigerator, tv, lights and charge cell phones. With any grid down or an emergency situation when you don't have power for a few days everyone's having a cookout. Because there's stuff in the refrigerator and freezer is going bad fast. After that everybody's rushing to the store to wipe out what's left if any is left at that point of groceries. Trying to run this cheap Chinese inverter generator for a few or several days when you've got a lot of money in the refrigerator and freezer. And on top of that is vital. You be lucky if you could run a full size refrigerator freezer with this Acer. But the Honda 2200 does and I've tested it on a 50 ft 10 gauge extension cord a full size refrigerator freezer. also with a big 19" fan running and kicking on a Skil saw. Honda is commercial grade. You better buy a few of these cheap Acer generators because if you go the cheap route you're going to need a few spares when they break. I first went the cheap route and bought 2 new cheap Chinese inverter generators and they both run on propane. One was the dual fuel and the other one was propane only. If you know anything about fuels propane is superior to gasoline. It doesn't have all those gasoline, carburetor, needle and seat, stale fuel, hard to start, no start, flooded engine, crankcase full of gasoline and more gasoline problems. The 1 dual fuel New cheap Chinese inverter generator I had stop making power. The overload light would come on right when it would start up it would still run but it would not make any power. The other small portable generator propane only. The engine locked up you couldn't pull the cord it was extremely tight. I've lost some time and money but the valuable lesson I learned. You get what you pay for and this is when I went with a new tri-fuel Honda. That I only run propane on because it's the superior care free fuel. That's been years ago and I haven't looked back since. Hondas are so good and extremely dependable and built for longevity. I now have a few of them. And of course all of them only run on propane. I even sell Honda tri fuel new generators on the side. On Facebook Marketplace if you're interested in one leave me a message thanks. You can also look up my name and search Honda eu2200i in Roanoke Virginia on Facebook Marketplace in the search bar. The price is 123, 456 and has the blue rubber cap beside the carry handle. I've got a few ads on Marketplace.
Comparing the functions and performance of two brand new generators is one thing but only half the story, for example, how many cheap ones do you have to buy for every honda? Fuel consumption, size, weight etc etc ... The honda is more expensive for a very good reason.
We have gone through 3 A-ipower gensets over the last 5yrs, now we are shopping again and will not be buying another even though they are Yamaha powered. Two were rebuilts and both carbs failed "the electronic control device on top of the carb, the new one had a generator fail so the other two may have good generators/inverters on them so l may do a swap and keep a back up. These China built gensets are okay but nothing beats a Honda. We ran all 3 gensets every night for over a year before they failed, at least 350 days so it eas a great test. I will be making a video very soon showing them etc...
It all depends what your objective is: 1) Continuous Daily Use = OR= 2) Occasional/Emergency Use 3 to 7 days once every 18 to 24 months I have experimented with several generator sizes. 700/900 HF Tailgator 2 cyl 1200/1500 Champlon 4 cyl 1800/2200 Power?? Inv 4 cyl YOU For #1 Go HONDA $$$$ ME For #2 Go Chinese $$
One Question I would like to know is if the 12 Volt DC Plug will efficiently use the entire power output potential of the Generator, or not, for charging a Battery Bank. Or would that be a waste of gasoline? - T
No it won't. Practically all generators are limited to 8amps on the 12v output and that's just 96 watts. You also wouldn't want to run 12v over about 10 feet because of line resistance making voltage sag. They do make DC only output generators for trucks but they are expensive but efficient.
Thanks for these vids. I have a room in the basement where I play guitar. I want to keep noise from leaking out, mostly through the ceiling and ceiling HVAC vent to the main floor. Since it's mostly about keeping airborne noise in, would those high density acoustic tiles do anything? And I still haven't figured out the vent... Maybe attach an insulated air deflector to it? Thx
A generator like this would be a good, inexpensive backup for your main generator. That way if your main generator dies or won't start, you have a cheap backup option.
I have a Firman with roughly the same specs. I built a ventilated box for quiet use at night. I live in FL and have had a few extended power outages over the last 5 years. I run my (non-inverter) monster jennie during the day and scale down to my 2200 watt Firman at night (or light use).
I’m looking for a apt generator without carbon monoxide issues. But I don’t know much, Seattle we rarely get sun so solar energy isn’t optional unless mid summer. Any advice ¿
@@thuandao4243 Check out the LiFiPo4 power stations from places like Ecoflow. They can be charged by wall outlet, car or solar. Or you can build your own system for about the same cost, maybe a little less. Depends on how much power you need.
I have a Honda 3,000 watt and when I run it on quiet mode it makes a big jump in RPM to run a close to full load. Every time it does this it trashes the clean sign wave power and kills my wi-fi!! Sure if I run it on normal it doesn't do this!! I also burn a 5 gallon tank in half the time too! I found a work around! A stand alone battery to run the WI-FI. It gets charged by the generator but no spike in the power when a load hits the Honda. This is an amazingly stupid mess for a $2,400 honda to keep doing. I just replaced that Honda for $2,400!! Exact same one too. Why replaced because the Honda store put the wrong oil in and overfilled it!! Amazing service!! I'm getting a Kohler 2 phase 10kw that runs on natural gas next!! I'm 68 and too old to hump a 90 pound gasoline Honda out everytime the power craps out!! Back in 1960 the house was new and the power only went out once. Today in 2024 the house is 64 but the power craps out 8 to 10 times a year!!
Its strongly seems to me, but I maybe missing something. The cheaper machine was running more than a few more revs higher compared to the Honda. Therefore more noise. Honda make very nice products but yes higher price. Do compated with other branded machines how does the cheap yellow one compare would be a more accurate comparision.
When renting is very difficult to soundproof these types of noise because of the vibrations they cause. Decoupling is the only way to get it done with the use of a resilient channel. That’s not feasible when renting.
Why don't you do a video on how to improve the Amazon 2024 with parts locally available.. The original budget model is base for starting , so just improve the reliability of the motor and other components that you identify as budget level and upgrade them.
Not available. It's designed so that it lasts just long enough that when it breaks you don't mind throwing it in the garbage and buying a new one for $300.
Most of the time the oil that comes into the boxes is if the unit is boxed in America if it's boxed overseas and comes into the states I can't have any fluids in it if it's coming across the ocean
Just remember, cheap doesn't mean anything when it comes to repairs. Eventually that will need service. When you take it to a small engine shop and they laugh in your face, do not say I didn't tell you so. I refuse to work on this type of equipment. Finding parts will be impossible. If ANYTHING goes wrong within 5- 10 years, good luck. At least HONDA has been around for years and I can still get parts for them. Throw away mentality here.
The real issue is long term reliability and repairability. Assuming that it works out of the box and is not defective, the performance of these is not far off from the Honda. Also, for occasional use, this type of product will probably last for some time. But if/when it breaks it could be difficult to find parts. No product is perfect. I’m sure even Honda has its share of quality issues, but they are actually repairable and maintainable over a long period of time instead of being disposable.
I don't get the point of a usb port on the generator. If I have electrical cords coming from the generator into my house, I plug my normal phone charger into that, or surge suppressors I may have in the house have usb ports and I would not want to plug my phone in at the generator out potentially in the rain either. UPDATE: I didn't listen long enough to hear that the normal generator outlets don't supply clean power for small electronic devices. On the other hand, I've been charging my phones from a surge suppressor with no issues. Good to know the difference though.
My buddy's Honda generator needs the carb ran through every year, my cheapo from China hasn't needed a carb clean yet. I use both on my bowfishing rig, and fuel up at the same station every time. The only positive from the honda is that it is definitely quieter, but for the price difference I could have a custom silencer box made for mine and have some money left over.
7:55 Honda quality controls their stuff in the country its sold in like Apple. That chinese junk will vibrate apart in under 1000 hours. The chinese saying "If you can cheat, cheat" is all over their products. I got a tecumseh generator 3kw for 40$ permanent magnet. It makes pure sine too. Inverter just regulates voltage if the motor surges. You have to have another country involved in the making of products in China for it to be 'ok'. If its purely chinese its in a landfill in 5 years.
You should have had the generators in exactly the same location doing the decibel tests! You had the Honda in the grass close to the ground and the Aceup on the table where the vibration and resonance would be much louder than on the soft soil! You failed in this comparison!
The usb issue you claim is actually not, what is happening is the most popular charging cord is usb to usb-c this is the most average used around the world especially rhe USA. This is because most people buy devices of middle and economy versions. High-end devices and newer as of now have usbc just takes time to catch up. And it's proven usb-c are easy to damage so also low end products support what each other used. Its just simply facts.
I’m still unconvinced a generator is better than a power bank.jackery costs the same as the Honda even with solar panels and could theoretically do the same job with no fuel cost .or am I wrong?
As long as you have gasoline and oil, you can run this for days, 24 hours a day. A Jackery 3000 costs $2,500 and is good for about 3kwh. This unit can produce 1.8kw as long as it has fuel and oil. Yes, you can solar charge, but even if conditions are good and you have several panels, it will be slow and even more so if you want to use it while charging. Could it be 'better" for you? Sure. If you live in a high-rise, a gas powered generator is worthless, but a power bank could be priceless. Or, if the goal is to simply provide some portable power for charging phones, tablets and the like while camping, a power bank makes a lot of sense. But for me, when my extended outages have always been winter related and generally involve multiple days with no sun, a Jackery would make almost no real difference.
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Bought my 1st Honda 2000 generator on June 2001 Have over 11,000hrs on it. Pull rope replaced once and two spark plugs. Oil change every 100 hrs and still runs great. I do have a second Honda 2000 so I can parallel them together for A/C in my 5th wheel trailer.
Bought my first Harbor Freight Predator generator in 2015. It has 9 hours on it. I ran it for an hour to break it in and run it for 1 hour a year, changing the oil at the end of each run. It's for emergency power outages which we seemed to have have had a lot before I bought it, but none since. It'll get another hour in June 2024. In fact, I've had to replace the runtime meter once as it's battery operated.
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Hard to believe in this day and age.....but concerning the Harbor Freight item, I believe if you buy the extended warranty, you can return the generator for a new one, no questions asked !
When I first heard this, " Too good to be true ", I phoned my local Store and spoke to the Manager, and he confirmed the exchange program !
The Predators seem to get good reviews, and I believe they too can be run in parallel !
Have a friend that purchased one, and was surprised how it ran for something like 10 hours before needing refueled !
Not sure what kind of load he had, but his is quite happy with his !
And it would be hard to complain about their exchange program !
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Just Say'n !
Those little hondas are awesome, more quiet also, almost bullet proof
No one ever regretted buying a Honda or a Toyota
You better adjust the valve lash....
I have two Honda generators. One is at least 15 years old. Yes it was expensive. It cost almost $1100 back then. But It’s quiet and sips gas, it will run 6-8 hours on 1.1 gallons of gas. We power a travel trailer with it and use the trailer in temperatures as cold as teens or 20’s during hunting season. When gas soared over $4 a gallon that really saved us money.
I have the eu2000i love how it produces good power even on eco mode…
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When we used to go camping, the idea was to bring a small box and place it over the generator. Worked Miracles regarding noise.
Fresh air movement for combustion and cooling?
If you ran the battery down on your car and you had the Aceup with you you'd probably figure out what that 12V outlet was for provided you had the battery charging attachment.
That is a HUGE benefit
(smacks self on head) You just sold a generator.
I run a couple of Firman generators, they are great quality.
I got a 10k/8k Firman for $1k. Would never consider the Honda at the prices they sell. Firman is a solid machine and they publish instructions for switching from field use to house connection ground config. Absolutely no complaints.
I use a harbor freight generator and I could not be happier about its performance.
This generator is most likely basically the same as a Predator 2000 sold by HF.
Have 2 of these little Hondas and they’re excellent. Expensive yes but are very reliable and quiet.
I recently came across a sale on PowerSmart 2500 inverter generators on Amazon for $55 ea so snagged two. They are usually $380ish.
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Wow, you got a good deal. Good for you.
Where do you get parts for them?
I read alot of complaints about genny noise well that all boils down to the type of exgaust muffler used a simple switch out to a higher quality muffler will reduce the noise levels, And yes I do know what im talking about as i am a small engine marine mechanic for last 30 yrs and this is a very common problem ! And honestly if your power is out and you dont yave hydro and your neighbour helps supply some power to your house to help you out whuch is one thing i do when the situation arises from time to time There is never a complaint or crying because the exhaust is a little loud because the muffler has to be changed out after running so long !
a lot vs alot
Thank you for the info about the muffler.
The sound on the Honda, it oozes reliability! the other screams I hope your only using me for a short time! Good Video!
Pro tip" it's amazing what a little extra distance can do for noise. If you are camping, just use a slightly longer power cord and place the unit on the other side of your car.
Yeah next to the neighbors camper 😅
@@robertlivingston1634 what's the purpose of camping if your neighbor is that close in the first place? You might as well stay in the city.
@@rupe53 it's a joke, most people now Days call glamping camping. Haven't camped in years but when I did I didn't need a generator!
A properly built foam box or a box with noise canceling materials inside can make a very big difference as well. Of course you need to make sure there are holes so the unit can breath and heat can escape. I've seen a basic foam box with one side missing make a huge difference (that pink insulation material), you could barely hear it at all- just face the missing side of the box away from wherever you are going to be- that gives it lots of breathing room and all the sound is directed away from you, and in hot and/or sunny places it gets a bit of shade/protection from elements. You could always add a low powered fan to it too or maybe a box fan (pretty sure they're very low power)
@@robertlivingston1634 glamping is better . i'll have an eternity to sleep in nature, after i die and they bury me till then its fan and a/c time. .
Glad I bought the Honda EU2200i back in 2018. It's super quiet and very reliable. Never looked back. Just me. 😊
Noise,simple.Make a small folding insulated screen,to put around the generator.
Thanks so much for sharing this! I don’t know a lot about generators, but I feel like you explained the pros and cons in a way that even a dummy like me can understand!
Happy you found value! 😎
I did the same thing in 2022 and the one I found was $225. Looked very similar but it was light blue in color and had different controls. Luckily for me I thoroughly examined it before actually trying to start it. I added a little fuel and started smelling it really bad immediately afterwards. I had to completely tear it down to access the fuel tank. What I found was a bad O-ring on the fuel outlet that was dripping fuel directly onto the front panel's electronics. I fixed it with a new O-ring easy enough, but if I had started it and walked away (like you would with any generator) it would have at least destroyed itself and possibly burned my house down too.
Living in a state where non-ethanol gas is not available at the pump, my first questions for any off brand or cheap generator: Are spare carburetors available? How Much are they? and How easily are they changed? One thing about Honda is that their parts are ubiquitous. Ont eh other hand, I do like that this unit does not seemed to be hindered by the ticking clock of a non-user replaceable CO sensor.
More often than not these generators are clones of some generator or another. I wouldn't be surprised if a honda carb fit this generator, but it may need rejetted.
FYI, they sell kits that have a replacement cap and floater that will refill the tank of small generators. When the gas gets below a certain level, it pumps gasoline until the floater turns it off. Hook it to a 5 gallon tank and you've got 60 hours at 25% ...
I could see it for a trailer/camping, but not household backup. These things don't reduce the noise that much. I found the most effective noise suppressor to be distance, as in putting it in the garage on the far side of the house away from the bedroom with an exhaust extension to the outside. For the price of this "quiet" generator, I got 4400 watts and can run the whole house off that.
Honda is undoubtedly excellent, but it is too expensive. I would be more willing to purchase Aceup Energy, as it is more cost-effective and affordable compared to Honda.
I have a big gen and a few chargeable battery banks. Those are to expensive for what they are.
You pay for what you get…… Honda or some 100% Chinese pos that might run for a short time.
@@wrzl1675 U could buy 3 chinese
Another great review. Thanks!
Your thumbnail stated, "This can't be legal." Was it legal? What aspect of legality was in question?
Hate the bait too. It's why this vid didn't get a like from me, even though it is good enough for one.
On two sections the deer don’t mind and the coyotes stay away
Win 😊
Lol. Guys... it's just a saying. If something is so good, it must be illegal. Adage used all the time
The Honda is running at a lower RPM in all the tests you did.. that would probably indicate lower power output from the engine... Should also do a a max output load test to see if it will even do the rated amount.
Harbor Freight often has deals on similar generators.. You can get a warranty and a local place that will exchange it if it breaks in that warranty time. For the slight premium in price there I would probably do that.
I have a couple HF gens.. one tailgate model.. a little 2 stroke one.. its over 10 years old.. still runs great. I added a small fuel filter and changed the fuel line to some better stuff when I got it.
The second is a 2400 Watt Inverter gen... also works great. One feature that seems to be missing on these now.. is a separate fuel shut off.. If you are not using them regularly.. being able to drain the carb of fuel by running it dry will vastly lengthen its life before a cleaning is needed.. especially with ethanol fuel.
That is as loud as my 2400 watt generator which is quite loud!! A kettle is a good testing tool. Cheers 👍
I bought a 2300 inverter gen from CPO tools..$235
I run in on my boat. Swim deck. To run the shore power AC and everything else on our 30ft Sea Ray..5 years running strong
Awesome!
I would use the DC 12 volt outlet to charge a car battery using the supplied charging cable.
How long do you leave the charging cables on the battery safely?
There are alternatives between the AceUp and the Honda also.
I have a Champion 1700W/2000W that has been great for 10+ years.
I originally paid $400 but now they are up to $800 (Canadian). Still a lot less than a Honda.
I bought my Honda 3000 watt generator in 2006. I have used it from 10,600’ elevation to literally sea level. I replace 2 batteries and change the oil */- every 100 hours. I am glad I spent the money. For my house, I have a Generac 20kw standby with ATS and 300 gallon propane tank. It is the best.
How about building a quick tripod to place over the generator and draping it with a tarp and a blanket? To muffle the sound. I guess you would have to make sure air gets in to this small tent, made from sticks and paracord + blankets. Just an idea. This would also stop rain or snow from reaching the generator. Anyway great upload thx!
There are actually small tent like apparatus you can buy to protect them from the elements and muffle some of the noise. I talk more about it in this video - ua-cam.com/video/q9h2LTLd748/v-deo.html
If you really want to make these things quiet build a small V shaped enclosure out of pressure treated 4x4 posts sunk in the ground. Cover both sides with plywood and fill it with sand.
Great video! I am currently working on converting an all aluminum empty trailer into an rv/toyhauler. I’m wondering how I can achieve the highest thermal protection and best sound deadening properties. I’m building in from the aluminum shell and every inch I can save in wall thickness and every ounce I can save in weight is precious. Imo saw in another vid you encourage new questions, so I thought I’d just leave my question here. Thanks for the very informative material 👍👍👍
Any 12 V device! 12 V devices are usually found in RV's and campers, like coffee makers, lights, and tools. Don't forget about running your Ham Radio rig from 12 V.
the honda tone frequency reminds me of some youtube sleep frequency videos...so that may be another use for it...however, $300 is a very good deal...
Ace Up all the way. The colors are the best!
I bought this today off Amazon, will not be using it everyday so I hope it works out
I'd probably opt for the cheaper generator, I already have a 1kw off grid solar setup for back up, but in the winter months you need a lot of solar so this would make sense on days where I need to recharge the batteries
It’s definitely not a bad unit. I still
Use mine after almost a year and nothing wrong with it!
I have a same honda generator it's a great product
But only one problem that they don't have EU plug so I have to solder wires to EU plug connector
the 12-volt hookup is great for when you have a dead car battery
Very true!
do the generators have the same CCM? Otherwise the pitch is that.
Yeah I have one of those generators I put 30 hours on it and then went to pull it the next day the pull rope broke didn't think it was a big deal but it'll cost you about $300 just to fix the pull rope because you have to take the entire thing apart to get to The recoil assembly
I have a question regarding MLV, which I know you are a huge advocate of. I would like to know your thoughts on the comparison between MLV and Tecsound SY, which comes in a 10kg per square meter version. Which would you recommend as the best material between two layers of drywall? Again, many thanks for all the great content you've produced on UA-cam!
What uses 12 volts ?
Car radio, CB radio
A great deal of ham radio equipment ( with global coverage)
You forgot to mention charging a battery, which happens quite a bit if you are camping for a week and constantly using your car to charge other portable devices... or you left the trunk open and the light inside killed the battery after a few days.
Buying this
I just did but have trouble getting started!
how loud it is, doesn't effect the load. Who cares how loud it is, we want to what can you actually use on it. You boiled water?? that's it? i though you was gonna hook up some power tools, a frig, a stove.
If you spend time camping/RVing you care how loud it is because a loud generator will get you tossed from campgrounds in a heartbeat.
@@jasonandersen5975I mean you’re not wrong but how loud\quiet it is makes no difference if it doesn’t produce consistent and reliable output. Pretty sure that was the point virgil was making.
Engine Rpm does matter, and as everyone knows… the faster the rpm the more wear on the engine.
@@athannaelanderson3806 video is garbage anyways.
Virgil, boiling a kettle is a good test of power as a lot of kettles are 1500+ watts. As they're converting electricity into heat it saps a lot of juice. A lot of power tools are around that if not less. Just as an example my compound mitre saw is 1500w peak. It'll run at less than that once moving.
Kettles are a good way of testing generators to be fair 😅
Had my Honda for over 20 years , still starts second time & runs as good as it did when I got it. Wouldn’t consider anything else.
Don't start out backwards. Determine what you must have running (including it's surge demand amps/watts)and buy the generator sized to your needs. The Honda and Yamaha generators have a generous surge capacity and don't instantly quit as soon as you put a load on them that temporarily exceeds their rated capacity, cheap generators it's a crap shoot.
Running a Air Cooled generator is costly because they are inefficient so you might want to buy two. I actually have 4, a 4,000W one that will run everything I really need in the house. I would have to bring another (3,000W) online if I wanted to cook, do laundry and run my electric dryer. My air conditioning and refrigerator are "soft start" so I don't experience high surge loads. Expect 2.5 gallons of fuel to run that generator at 90% capacity for 12 hours if it says 10 hours at 25% capacity or 600W. 600W might be refrigerator TV and lights and a small fan. This might be enough, but it isn't for me. My main generator is 4200W inverter and it runs about 4 hours on 2 gallons of fuel at 80% load. Take a grain of salt with their estimated runtimes at whatever % load.
Water cooled generators would be about as quiet as your car, use much less fuel and outside of expensive and high capacity construction site equipment, are hard to find. You can park a solid object between you and the generator to redirect sound or build a sandbag revetment or put the generator farther from you but you need to use heavy extension cords for that like 12 or 10ga because at 120V 100 feet of 16/3 extension cord could reduce your voltage down to 105V or so and the lower the voltage the more amps you draw. 240V is more forgiving 12ga to 14ga could be good enough.
It's all about the Budget, in money and power and that's why having at least two generators is a good thing. You can shut one off when you need less power which is why I recommend you size primary generator to what you Must run so it has only about 20% extra capacity and have a second generator you can run for cooking, washing, drying and so forth.
Amazing! Thank you.
For someone who might be a long distance from civilization for extended periods, durability and repair ability are more important than upfront cost.
So is having 3 spares.
@@robertkubrick3738 Or one, and multiple spares for every part that might fail. Or/and alternate solutions to what you need it for.
I'm buying this. Thanks. Like your Minnesota accent 😊
Great video dude except for one or two very big bloopers but more about that in a tick but for me personally the EU2200 Honda Generator is by far the best choice as far as noise level and performance is concerned with a realistic run time between 3.2-8.1hrs albeit shorter than the stated 10hrs from the running time of the AceUp AI 2300 which as most of us can agree there needs no further comparisons nor introductions that should be necessary. Although if you are being entirely honest in respect of your presentation dude then you've kinda let the cat out the bag so to speak when you stated at 1:23 'and just to let you know this is not a sponsored video' which certainly does not come across as entirely accurate revealed by the hashtag alone. It's only when we are being presented with the AceUp AI 2300 generator compared to the Honda EU2200 then the blatantly obvious elephant in the room is in your statement dude that you made at 3:05 before immediately recommending the latter for the Honda generator but with no AceUp generator in sight, would it not be fair to say that if this is not a sponsored video then could we ask you to pull the other one dude??
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A few 1 star reviews? There were 20% . Now I don’t know about you but that’s a significant chunk of reviews
Consider competition leaving false reviews. Not saying that's the case but it happens
You have much more faith in the common man than I do that you would be surprised by 20% one star reviews on anything with moving parts. I normally look at 4-5 star reviews and add them. Then I look at the 4- 3 star and below for common things that can go wrong.
I will agree Honda makes a great generator BUT it's out of most peoples price range. Like you said you could buy 4 of the Chinese generators to 1 Honda. How you break a generator in and maintain it plays into how long they will last. I own two Pulsar generators they work great.
Keep them properly maintained, avoid overloading and you can expect them to last quite a few years.
It says table saw and shows a chop saw. My table saw has a 3 by 4 foot flat table with the motor hanging under to create tension for the drive V belt. Not sure that would power an Actual table saw then
Your English is really good, what is your first language?
French 😊
Seems the ACE is running too fast. Did you verify the Frequency at each gen?
That's how it makes the 2300w 😅
When the power is out you want to power your main thing that is going bad after a few days. Your refrigerator, tv, lights and charge cell phones. With any grid down or an emergency situation when you don't have power for a few days everyone's having a cookout. Because there's stuff in the refrigerator and freezer is going bad fast. After that everybody's rushing to the store to wipe out what's left if any is left at that point of groceries. Trying to run this cheap Chinese inverter generator for a few or several days when you've got a lot of money in the refrigerator and freezer. And on top of that is vital. You be lucky if you could run a full size refrigerator freezer with this Acer. But the Honda 2200 does and I've tested it on a 50 ft 10 gauge extension cord a full size refrigerator freezer. also with a big 19" fan running and kicking on a Skil saw. Honda is commercial grade. You better buy a few of these cheap Acer generators because if you go the cheap route you're going to need a few spares when they break. I first went the cheap route and bought 2 new cheap Chinese inverter generators and they both run on propane.
One was the dual fuel and the other one was propane only. If you know anything about fuels propane is superior to gasoline. It doesn't have all those gasoline, carburetor, needle and seat, stale fuel, hard to start, no start, flooded engine, crankcase full of gasoline and more gasoline problems. The 1 dual fuel New cheap Chinese inverter generator I had stop making power. The overload light would come on right when it would start up it would still run but it would not make any power. The other small portable generator propane only. The engine locked up you couldn't pull the cord it was extremely tight. I've lost some time and money but the valuable lesson I learned. You get what you pay for and this is when I went with a new tri-fuel Honda. That I only run propane on because it's the superior care free fuel. That's been years ago and I haven't looked back since. Hondas are so good and extremely dependable and built for longevity. I now have a few of them. And of course all of them only run on propane. I even sell Honda tri fuel new generators on the side. On Facebook Marketplace if you're interested in one leave me a message thanks. You can also look up my name and search Honda eu2200i in Roanoke Virginia on Facebook Marketplace in the search bar. The price is 123, 456 and has the blue rubber cap beside the carry handle. I've got a few ads on Marketplace.
Comparing the functions and performance of two brand new generators is one thing but only half the story, for example, how many cheap ones do you have to buy for every honda? Fuel consumption, size, weight etc etc ... The honda is more expensive for a very good reason.
We have gone through 3 A-ipower gensets over the last 5yrs, now we are shopping again and will not be buying another even though they are Yamaha powered. Two were rebuilts and both carbs failed "the electronic control device on top of the carb, the new one had a generator fail so the other two may have good generators/inverters on them so l may do a swap and keep a back up. These China built gensets are okay but nothing beats a Honda. We ran all 3 gensets every night for over a year before they failed, at least 350 days so it eas a great test. I will be making a video very soon showing them etc...
It all depends what your objective is:
1) Continuous Daily Use
= OR=
2) Occasional/Emergency Use 3 to 7 days once every 18 to 24 months
I have experimented with several generator sizes.
700/900 HF Tailgator 2 cyl
1200/1500 Champlon 4 cyl
1800/2200 Power?? Inv 4 cyl
YOU For #1 Go HONDA $$$$
ME For #2 Go Chinese $$
Is the ace up pure sine wave
Feed the land fill ?
Please tell me, what kind of oil does the Aceup require?
It says in the video
Love Honda
I bought 400 of them generators and now I run the entire Town's power source take that Honda
One Question I would like to know is if the 12 Volt DC Plug will efficiently use the entire power output potential of the Generator, or not, for charging a Battery Bank. Or would that be a waste of gasoline? - T
No it won't. Practically all generators are limited to 8amps on the 12v output and that's just 96 watts. You also wouldn't want to run 12v over about 10 feet because of line resistance making voltage sag. They do make DC only output generators for trucks but they are expensive but efficient.
Thanks for these vids. I have a room in the basement where I play guitar. I want to keep noise from leaking out, mostly through the ceiling and ceiling HVAC vent to the main floor. Since it's mostly about keeping airborne noise in, would those high density acoustic tiles do anything? And I still haven't figured out the vent... Maybe attach an insulated air deflector to it? Thx
Perhaps
will not ship to CA...?
Comparing the cheaper gen with harbor freights Predator 2000 gen would’ve been a more equal comparison.
Why were you charging small dc batteries with AC power?
A generator like this would be a good, inexpensive backup for your main generator. That way if your main generator dies or won't start, you have a cheap backup option.
I wouldn't doubt if that Generator is a repackaged Habor Freight PREDATOR Generator. It looks very similar.
Let's see, my honda EU 6500 is 29 years old, I'm staying with Honda.
I have a Firman with roughly the same specs. I built a ventilated box for quiet use at night. I live in FL and have had a few extended power outages over the last 5 years. I run my (non-inverter) monster jennie during the day and scale down to my 2200 watt Firman at night (or light use).
I bought the Westinghouse iGen2200 6-7 years ago for HALF the price of the overpriced Honda and it works just as good. Great little generator!
Those Westinghouse are great generators! Thanks for sharing!
I’m looking for a apt generator without carbon monoxide issues. But I don’t know much, Seattle we rarely get sun so solar energy isn’t optional unless mid summer. Any advice ¿
@@thuandao4243 Check out the LiFiPo4 power stations from places like Ecoflow. They can be charged by wall outlet, car or solar. Or you can build your own system for about the same cost, maybe a little less. Depends on how much power you need.
I have a Honda 3,000 watt and when I run it on quiet mode it makes a big jump in RPM to run a close to full load. Every time it does this it trashes the clean sign wave power and kills my wi-fi!! Sure if I run it on normal it doesn't do this!! I also burn a 5 gallon tank in half the time too! I found a work around! A stand alone battery to run the WI-FI. It gets charged by the generator but no spike in the power when a load hits the Honda. This is an amazingly stupid mess for a $2,400 honda to keep doing. I just replaced that Honda for $2,400!! Exact same one too. Why replaced because the Honda store put the wrong oil in and overfilled it!! Amazing service!! I'm getting a Kohler 2 phase 10kw that runs on natural gas next!! I'm 68 and too old to hump a 90 pound gasoline Honda out everytime the power craps out!! Back in 1960 the house was new and the power only went out once. Today in 2024 the house is 64 but the power craps out 8 to 10 times a year!!
Its strongly seems to me, but I maybe missing something. The cheaper machine was running more than a few more revs higher compared to the Honda. Therefore more noise. Honda make very nice products but yes higher price. Do compated with other branded machines how does the cheap yellow one compare would be a more accurate comparision.
It has to run much faster to be able to create the same wattage the Honda makes at a normal rpm.
That ace looks like the Yamaha?
How do u soundproof the ceiling and wall from low frequency sound / vibrations when u rent please ?
When renting is very difficult to soundproof these types of noise because of the vibrations they cause. Decoupling is the only way to get it done with the use of a resilient channel. That’s not feasible when renting.
What about being the owner (in a flat) ? ty
@@soundproofguide
Why don't you do a video on how to improve the Amazon 2024 with parts locally available..
The original budget model is base for starting , so just improve the reliability of the motor and other components that you identify as budget level and upgrade them.
Doesn't look like they sell that particular Assup generator any more.
what about getting parts for repair
Not available. It's designed so that it lasts just long enough that when it breaks you don't mind throwing it in the garbage and buying a new one for $300.
no co sensor to mess with is a plus
Most of the time the oil that comes into the boxes is if the unit is boxed in America if it's boxed overseas and comes into the states I can't have any fluids in it if it's coming across the ocean
That’s right! I never thought of that. Thanks for the clarification!
Just remember, cheap doesn't mean anything when it comes to repairs. Eventually that will need service. When you take it to a small engine shop and they laugh in your face, do not say I didn't tell you so. I refuse to work on this type of equipment. Finding parts will be impossible. If ANYTHING goes wrong within 5- 10 years, good luck. At least HONDA has been around for years and I can still get parts for them. Throw away mentality here.
I agree as a small shop, it’s just scrap 😢😢😢😢
Ok, but if you can buy 4 of them for 1 Honda, that means they last 20-40 years, which is pretty darn good.
No matter the sound or the performance. How long will it last?
Just long enough so that when it breaks you don't mind throwing it in the garbage and buying another one.
The real issue is long term reliability and repairability. Assuming that it works out of the box and is not defective, the performance of these is not far off from the Honda. Also, for occasional use, this type of product will probably last for some time. But if/when it breaks it could be difficult to find parts. No product is perfect. I’m sure even Honda has its share of quality issues, but they are actually repairable and maintainable over a long period of time instead of being disposable.
True! But you can buy 4-5 of these for the same price as 1 Honda.
You just throw it out when it breaks and buy a new one that's why they're only $300
Well i dont need a generatore forboiling water, it must be able to rummy fridg, gas boiler and a light in the room.
I don't get the point of a usb port on the generator. If I have electrical cords coming from the generator into my house, I plug my normal phone charger into that, or surge suppressors I may have in the house have usb ports and I would not want to plug my phone in at the generator out potentially in the rain either.
UPDATE: I didn't listen long enough to hear that the normal generator outlets don't supply clean power for small electronic devices. On the other hand, I've been charging my phones from a surge suppressor with no issues. Good to know the difference though.
I love my HONDA generators.
cheap tools surely work, the question is for how long. Quality products often last much longer.
My buddy's Honda generator needs the carb ran through every year, my cheapo from China hasn't needed a carb clean yet. I use both on my bowfishing rig, and fuel up at the same station every time. The only positive from the honda is that it is definitely quieter, but for the price difference I could have a custom silencer box made for mine and have some money left over.
Which one is quieter when they're not running?
Hmmmm, that’s a tough one to measure. I’ll let you know in a follow up video.
You need 12 volts to charge the rv batteries
Honda will start on first pull 20 years from now
7:55 Honda quality controls their stuff in the country its sold in like Apple. That chinese junk will vibrate apart in under 1000 hours. The chinese saying "If you can cheat, cheat" is all over their products. I got a tecumseh generator 3kw for 40$ permanent magnet. It makes pure sine too. Inverter just regulates voltage if the motor surges. You have to have another country involved in the making of products in China for it to be 'ok'. If its purely chinese its in a landfill in 5 years.
I can’t say I disagree with you. 😎
Volume doubles after 6db increase, not 10db.
You should have had the generators in exactly the same location doing the decibel tests! You had the Honda in the grass close to the ground and the Aceup on the table where the vibration and resonance would be much louder than on the soft soil!
You failed in this comparison!
He changed the title and desc from 2023 to 2024.
Ive thought about doing that with some of my videos, then i remembered im not a scumbag.
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@soundproofguide shame shame shaaaaaaaame, shame on you!
They say 10hrs of runtime, that not how long it runs on a tank of gas, that how long it runs until it throws a rod.
The usb issue you claim is actually not, what is happening is the most popular charging cord is usb to usb-c this is the most average used around the world especially rhe USA. This is because most people buy devices of middle and economy versions. High-end devices and newer as of now have usbc just takes time to catch up. And it's proven usb-c are easy to damage so also low end products support what each other used. Its just simply facts.
Quite aggresively worded mate, but a valid point. Not sure it made me QUITE as angry though........
I’m still unconvinced a generator is better than a power bank.jackery costs the same as the Honda even with solar panels and could theoretically do the same job with no fuel cost .or am I wrong?
As long as you have gasoline and oil, you can run this for days, 24 hours a day.
A Jackery 3000 costs $2,500 and is good for about 3kwh. This unit can produce 1.8kw as long as it has fuel and oil. Yes, you can solar charge, but even if conditions are good and you have several panels, it will be slow and even more so if you want to use it while charging.
Could it be 'better" for you? Sure. If you live in a high-rise, a gas powered generator is worthless, but a power bank could be priceless. Or, if the goal is to simply provide some portable power for charging phones, tablets and the like while camping, a power bank makes a lot of sense. But for me, when my extended outages have always been winter related and generally involve multiple days with no sun, a Jackery would make almost no real difference.
HONDA HAS A STEONG ENGINE,RELIABLE AND WILL BE READYMWHENMYA NEED IT!!!!!!