The year was 1912. He was a steamboat pilot on the Mississippi river. She was a lovely vaudeville dancer on a minstrel show tour. Little did either know it but the adventure of the fantastic flying boat would land the young couple right in the back lot of RKO studios and begin a short but eventful career for both.
Toby was Charles Mintz's studio in the RKO days, NOT Van Beuren. The annotations are particularly apt for this almost deliriously musical, at times foot stomping, toon. We are lucky to have any version of the 6 or so Toby's that have survived, but I thought I had seen another version of this a year or two ago. Loved that finale. All the Toby's (there were 12) are from 1930-31, this one being #9 from 1931. Apparently the series was successful but Charles Mintz, while keeping the creative team of Huemer, Marcus, and Davis, was changing distributors and went for a new, human, character, Scrappy, who while almost as obscure as Toby had a 10 year run and 80 some toons, including some great ones.
That was a cool cartoon, I was getting into all of them singing to Mississippi Mud, lol. Your notes were nice, I don't think I would have cared what the songs were until you pointed them out. Thanks for the time you put in and posting this!
Is beacuse disney brought the studio in 1931 leading that toby will bee replaced by mickey. Then they made scrappy and the studio left disney in the 50s or 40s
This was a TOBY THE PUP cartoon produced by the Charles Mintz studio. It was not of the AESOP'S FABLES series from Van Beuren. The Main Title has been re-created using the wrong reference.
Toby the Pup was RKO's first cartoon series, followed by the Van Bueren Productions in 1932. Then, as we all know, in 1936, RKO picked up Disney Distribution from United Artists. This lasted until 1953.
This isn't the original title card was made at the Winkler Pictures by Charles Mintz Cartoon not at Van Beuren Cartoon, I bet they put it in the mail in the channel "ARTE" !
Anyone familiar with the work that Van Beuren produced would know that this is superior to what Van Beuren released at this time. While TOBY THE PUP was produced for RKO, it was produced by Charles Mintz, created and directed by Dick Huemer. This explains the New York Fleischer animation design since Dick was the chief animation designer/director for Fleischer off and on for six years.
It's pretty hard to miss the 'Steamboat Willie' swipe at 01:01-01:08, I'll bet if Disney had the all the Disney lawyers he would have had later on in the 1940s and 1950s he probably would have gone after the Mintz's for copyright violation or something.
I think RKO stopped distributing this series after they had taken over Pathe's operations, inheriting the Van Beuren corporation's various cartoon series and other short subjects that Pathe had distributed.
@cartoonfan1920s Of course it's "slicker" having the benefit of being made three years later with more knowledge and improved techniques compared to the pioneering effort.
There was not way to go after copyright violation unless there was a direct attempt to use the image of MICKEY MOUSE. Van Beuren was actually sue over a deliberate copy of MICKEY.
The year was 1912. He was a steamboat pilot on the Mississippi river. She was a lovely vaudeville dancer on a minstrel show tour. Little did either know it but the adventure of the fantastic flying boat would land the young couple right in the back lot of RKO studios and begin a short but eventful career for both.
For all its derivative nature, this cartoon does a good job of demonstrating how creative oldies could be.
Toby was Charles Mintz's studio in the RKO days, NOT Van Beuren.
The annotations are particularly apt for this almost deliriously musical, at times foot stomping, toon. We are lucky to have any version of the 6 or so Toby's that have survived, but I thought I had seen another version of this a year or two ago. Loved that finale. All the Toby's (there were 12) are from 1930-31, this one being #9 from 1931. Apparently the series was successful but Charles Mintz, while keeping the creative team of Huemer, Marcus, and Davis, was changing distributors and went for a new, human, character, Scrappy, who while almost as obscure as Toby had a 10 year run and 80 some toons, including some great ones.
It's a shame that the Toby cartoons only came down to us in dips and dabs. All of them posted on UA-cam have been loads of fun.
That was a cool cartoon, I was getting into all of them singing to Mississippi Mud, lol. Your notes were nice, I don't think I would have cared what the songs were until you pointed them out. Thanks for the time you put in and posting this!
Thanks for posting this! Your annotations were a great addition to the experience!
I wish Toby was not short lived! He doesn't make a bad cartoon character. He would even fit in to today's cartoons easily.
Is beacuse disney brought the studio in 1931 leading that toby will bee replaced by mickey. Then they made scrappy and the studio left disney in the 50s or 40s
This was a TOBY THE PUP cartoon produced by the Charles Mintz studio. It was not of the AESOP'S FABLES series from Van Beuren. The Main Title has been re-created using the wrong reference.
This film is great!!!
Lots of SteamBoa Willie in this one
Toby the Pup was RKO's first cartoon series, followed by the Van Bueren Productions in 1932. Then, as we all know, in 1936, RKO picked up Disney Distribution from United Artists. This lasted until 1953.
RKO had Van Beuren Productions before, during, and Toby
RKO distributed the Disney cartoons until 1956.
This isn't the original title card was made at the Winkler Pictures by Charles Mintz Cartoon not at Van Beuren Cartoon, I bet they put it in the mail in the channel "ARTE" !
Anyone familiar with the work that Van Beuren produced would know that this is superior to what Van Beuren released at this time. While TOBY THE PUP was produced for RKO, it was produced by Charles Mintz, created and directed by Dick Huemer. This explains the New York Fleischer animation design since Dick was the chief animation designer/director for Fleischer off and on for six years.
Walt Disney Toby the Pup Vintage
This is not an AESOP'S FABLES cartoon. An incorrect opening has been added on.
It's pretty hard to miss the 'Steamboat Willie'
swipe at 01:01-01:08,
I'll bet if Disney had the all the Disney lawyers
he would have had later on in the 1940s and 1950s
he probably would have gone after the Mintz's
for copyright violation or something.
I think RKO stopped distributing this series after they had taken over Pathe's operations, inheriting the Van Beuren corporation's various cartoon series and other short subjects that Pathe had distributed.
Toby looks just like an early version of Fleisher's Bimbo, which existed at the same time.
As I understand it, Lobster Films simply didn't know at the time where certain cartoons (lacking their main titles) came from, and took a guess.
That music was the same as the Mickey Mouse cartoon opening title from "Steamboat Willie".
This is not the only version that survives. That's all that I will report at this time.
0:11 this music sounds very familiar (you know it’s from steamboat willie right)
No it's a song called "Steamboat Bill Jr." Steamboat Willie is the reason why it's well known
When disney sees people that r fans of this cartoon*
THOSE FANS R GOING TO HELL
That's not Van Beuren Cartoon because Toby is part of the study of Charles Mintz Cartoon !
Also charles mintz stole oswald the lucky rabbit from disney
@cartoonfan1920s
Of course it's "slicker" having the benefit of being made three years later with more knowledge and improved techniques compared to the pioneering effort.
There was not way to go after copyright violation unless there was a direct attempt to use the image of MICKEY MOUSE. Van Beuren was actually sue over a deliberate copy of MICKEY.
This is riping off disney but i like it
Well that was crap.. and before you flame me, I have a 30's cartoon on my top favorite..