Everytime The Robins Have Become Batman
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I like how the title implies that all the Robins fused into a singular Batman lmao
JASON TODD AS BATMAN.
Chat I have a new comic idea
One hell of a fusion dance
I didn’t interpret it that way 🤔
"Do you think we should put on the potara earrings and fuse?"
Battle for the cowl was after Jason returned, the clayface thing was from Batman hush storyline Jason became Batman temporarily in battle for the cowl but a more violent murdering version
Yea I was about to say, that’s a pretty big piece of misinfo right there
Thank you now I don’t have to make this comment myself
Yeah i was about to point this out as well.
I'm surprised he made such a big error in info. I mean, Batman Hush and Battle for the Cowl are so iconic that I didn't think anyone could make a mistake like.
Thank you! I was very confused by this statement and started researching to verify that I was not making things up in my mind.
To be honest I'm kinda glad Jason hasn't actually taken over the mantel in the way the others have. It shows that unlike the others he isn't as defined by Bruce and his code.
(That and it helps him stand out even more than he already does).
Each robin has a unique take on Batman, but the fact Jason never truly tried to take over as the bat, it proves how far away he is from Bruce's shadow (which is honestly further than Dick Grayson could ever dream of)
@@eclipsethefox4397 exactly.
@@eclipsethefox4397eh i think its safe to say nightwing is further out of batmans shadow with him being his own hero, with his own logo (look towards jason new 52-today), with his own city, and entire supporting casts.
@@eclipsethefox4397 Dick didn't take the mantle because he wanted to. He did it out of a sense of duty. And Dick had been far out of Batman'shadow (by founding the Titans first, then by becoming Nightwing) long before Jason became the Red Hood.
I think there's a mistake in the video. Does anyone have proof that it was Clayface and not Jason in "Battle for the Cowl? Because the story where Jason Todd came back to life, "Under the Red Hood" was published in 2006, while "Battle for the Cowl" was published three years later, in 2009. So when they said Jason came back to life after BftC, it's false. Never heard of it not being Jason in "Battle for the Cowl". If it's him, then he did try to take over the mantle, very aggressively I must say (if I remember correctly, he shot Damian?)
Jason was actually fully revived and had already been the Red Hood before the Battle for the Cowl. The Clayface swap actually happened in a Hush storyline that was set before Under the Hood, but both of those were still before the Battle for the Cowl.
There's is another ending in the death in the family when Jason is about to kill two face a kid prevents him from doing so which changes his way of dealing with criminals it's implied that Jason took the kid under his wing to become bat kid and also implied that the kid would becomes Batman
Yeah that's kid actual is Tim Drake and is adopt by Jason in this choise
Yup, we even see a version of Jason wearing the red robin suit and a ked Tim Drake using a Kid-Batman suit
[Final crisis event]
Batman: **"kicks the bucket"**
Red hood: yo, I heard a position is opening up, mind if I take it?
I feel each robin could embody batman in their own way because they all embody certain traits of batman
Grayson - Morality & ethics
Jason todd - brooding demeanor & brutality
Tim drake - Intellect & detective skills
Damien Wayne - Martial arts prowless
It was only in Batman: Hush that Jason was revealed to be Clayface back in 2002. Under The Red Hood, where Jason was officially resurrected, came out in 2005. Battle For The Cowl was in 2009.
It was later retconned that Jason was there in Hush, but switched out with Clayface during the fight
I know this doesn't count but in the Batman TV show Alfred had to dress as Batman to keep Bruce's secret identity from being exposed by a journalist
Dick has stepped in multiple times as Batman. There was after the defeat of Azreal/Batman after Knightfall, after final crisis and a few times here and there through out the comic run. It’s even stated in rebirth that he did eventually replace Bruce for awhile but gave it up since it wasn’t for him. In that same continuity it’s revealed that Tim seeks out Jason to replace Dick but he was wrecked by the league of assassins and is missing his leg and is a broken version of himself. Damian then because Batman, the crazy murderer, so Tim has no choice but to become Batman and stop Damian. In Battle for the cowl Tim also suits up as Batman to try and stop Jason, but gets wrecked too.
Dick has always been my favorite but, I believe he has worked to hard at becoming a hero in his own right. As much as I liked his time as Batman, he’s earned his own spot as a hero as Nightwing. That’s who he is meant to be, so much so that the DC universe respects his as such.
For as much as they push the idea of Jason being a dark evil Batman, he doesn’t fit either. Recently he’s started being more along the Bat family again and it doesn’t fit. He’s the rouge of the team, being on the opposite side of the family fits him and the Red Hood is what he should be.
Tim is probably the best option at replacing Bruce. He’s the one who comes closest in a lot of ways. The darker take on his version of Batman is okay, but with him knowing what happens to him if he dose, puts that kind of on hold. He’s rather not be the killer his future self becomes.
Damian is the “true” heir as he is his son. I was never a big fan of his, still really a not. But over the years he’s gotten better and I did like him more when he was partnered with Dick. In the current comics he even separates himself from Bruce since he doesn’t like his way of doing things.
Damian and Tim are the best candidates to succeed Bruce. Just in my opinion.
Terry will always be Batman Beyond. And at some point will become Batman if Neo Gotham.
Dude battle for the cowl was the real jason, hed been back for a minute at that stage, the jason seen in HUSH was clayface
Jason in arkham knight says his plan is to become batman after he kills him, if that counts to anything. He didn't become batman but his plan was to
The only time in which Clayface impersonated Jason Todd was during the Hush arc. After that, when Jason returned and Bruce died, Jason designed his own version of the suit in order to dish out his own brand of justice on Gotham's criminals.
To be honest I still think Cassandra Cain would be the best Batman. She wants to protect Gotham, she has the skill to do it and gas the least chance to go evil in the future.
So she would be the second best option after Dick Grayson who does not want the cowl
She became evil in the same world as Tim, or at least was convinced by him. Cass has become attached to the Bat Family like a cat, she wouldn't take on such an important position due to the lack of leadership qualities and detective skills, she would undoubtedly insist that Tim become Batman because she knows and trust him more than other Robins except Steph.
I’d definitely say the most messed up things she did was in that weird run back in 2022 that ended with that trial. What were the writers even thinking?
Damn this made me realize Batman’s sidekicks change their identity’s more than a constantly online person
I think at some point DC should make the Battle for the Cowl 2.0 with Tim and Damian fighting for the Cowl. Where it all ends with Tim and Damian finally settling their conflicts and sharing Bruce's legacy: Damian will become Batman, and Tim will once again become the head of Wayne Enterprises. Or make Tim become Batman and Damian go his own way and decide to make something better and nobler out of the League of Assassins.
But given the way DC has been treating members of the Bat Family lately, nothing worthwhile should be expected.
I've always wanted an opposite destiny for Tim. Every time he goes to the future he is always hurt by Batman's Shadow and becomes villainous. We are at 3 in 4 at this point. So maybe a true freedom for his character is a a separation from Batman and Robin rather than a lean into it. Tim is like Terry or Carrie Kelly he chose the role. But unlike the latter it's taken away from his life not added to it. Therefore maybe him having the chance to become someone a little more selfish yet better than Batman at something would be a sort of paradoxical conclusion for him. Make Tim Red X as a Detective. Boom Popularity Solidified.
While normally Red X is code for a lost Robin.This time it can be the path for a Robin found.
@@AstraFulminous I don't know, I think the whole arc with a possible evil future Tim should be brought to an end. Tim, after becoming Red Robin, in my opinion, should at some point begin to make too much of an emphasis on efficiency in the fight against crime, becoming more like his evil version (what I find curious is that shortly before Damian became Robin and right up to the end of the Post-Crisis Tim became much colder and more effective and at the same time completely stopped remembering his version from a possible future, which in my opinion meant that he was slowly beginning to turn into him), this should result in a conflict with Bruce (which began in the last issue of "Red Robin") and with some members of the Bat Family, as a result of which Tim realizes his mistake and decides to work solo for a while to find himself and his place in the world. During his journey, Tim will come to the conclusion that his future version was in a similar position as Bruce after Jason's death (in Tim's Future world, Bruce and some members of the Bat Family died, and others left, leaving Tim alone, which made him evil), The Future Tim needed Robin, but was not as lucky as Bruce. Tim will realize that the only way not to become the same as his version from the future is to be closer to the people he cares about, to ensure their safety and peace inside the Bat Family. I think Tim should become one of the leaders of the Bat Family, like Dick. While Grayson is the heart of the bat family, Tim is the brain. The Bat Family as a whole and Gotham will become more important to him than Batman and Robin. I think this is the best option for his development. By understanding exactly what happened to his future self, he even will be able to succeed as Batman.
I don't think Red X is right for Tim. Perhaps a Cardinal or a Savior would be better. Although I won't mind if he stays a Red Robin. Nickname is the least of Tim's problems right now
Jason will probably never become Batman or take over the mantle of being Batman because of two reasons (that I can think of): one is that he probably doesn’t want to since there are others like Dick Grayson who are better choices and another reason is that he is better of being Red Hood than Batman.
That was Jason in battle for the cowl, not clayface. It was clayface acting as Jason in the Hush story. Later it was revealed that it was actually Jason but he had clayface step in as him during the events of hush
I was under the impression that clayface actually pretended to be jason in the hush event. They all knew it was the real jason in battle for the cowl cause it was revealed that jason was actually alive in under the red hood.
Damian and Dick were obviously going to be Batman at some point but wow Tim alternate universe is Batman is nice but yay my boy/Favorite Robin of all time Jason Todd became Batman and defeated Bruce I am proud of him
Me personally whenever I think about what Robin would become the Batman I always think That is always gonna be dick Grayson, he were just made to be him
To be Honest Dick Grayson is the right successor as Batman.
At this point I doubt they’ll ever permanently replace Batman, but dreaming won’t hurt. I’m surprise I haven’t found a similar video including other characters into consideration like all the batgirls, Katana, Carrie Keller, Kate Kane, the question, huntress, Jarro, the signal, Luke Fox, Jace Fox, etc.
Grayson-I know he tends to be the obvious choice because of age and such, but I doubt he’ll ever took the cowl voluntarily for too long if they are other choices. It’s just a little out of character considering how much he worked to get out of Batman’s shadow. He is a hero on his own but he just can’t be Batman. At least not the same kind as Bruce.
Jason- I honestly don’t see why he’ll ever want to take the mantle other than maybe proving himself or piss off the others, but he’s grown out of that. It would be interesting if he somehow was forced into taking the mantle not just the costume and tried to figure things out. Red hood is one of my favorite Dc characters but I don’t think becoming Batman is the right direction for him.
Tim- one of the best choices.
Damian- He is the natural heir and they are a lot of stories of him becoming an evil Batman, so one of him finally taking the cowl and maybe not liking it as much as he though might be a good idea to set him into a self discovery journey.
pretty sure those comics with damian wayne as batman in batman beyond isn’t connected to the show and is just its own separate thing for anyone wondering why he’s never mentioned or used, which irl is just because damian wasn’t really a thing yet.
Jason Todd as Batman would literally be The Punisher with a cape
In the Silver Age there were some stories imagined by Alfred in which Bruce Wayne married Kathy Kane/Batwoman. Bruce eventually retired and then Dick Grayson and Bruce Wayne Jr. became Batman II and Robin II. In one of the stories Kathy's niece Betty Kane, who was the original Batgirl, made the scene and she took up the mantle of Batwoman II. I had a couple of those stories back in the day, I think one in the regular issue and another in a Giant.
Night wing = morality
Red hood = brutality
Red robin = IQ
Damian = skills
Batman = all of that
it's has to be dick and damian, the NEW dynamic duo. their run was so much fun
I heard that in one of the Batman Beyond alternate continuities, the older Batman who acts as Terry's mentor is actually Jason Todd, but I haven't heard the story of why this Todd version of Batman is in the role that Old Bruce has in the canon Batman Beyond setting. So, I can understand why that wasn't mentioned here.
No it was actually Damian not Jason
We all know Bruce’s true successor is Terry McGinnis
Except DC has made it clear its Damian.
You can cope as much as you want but he has become Batman the most
Terry is B tier for vanilla fans
@@newhybrid101McGinnis was before Damian, maybe either have him as a mentor to McGinnis or put him on a bus (Damian that is).
@@newhybrid101It's a multiverse. Terry is Batman and so is Damian. No need to fight about it. And the main universe itself has been reset so many times anyway. With both Damian and Terry both being Batman of the future of the main universe.
This video came out 13s ago this comment was made 13s after
No it was 13.02s
I feel like we all know that Dick Grayson would be the best however I feel like Jason Todd would be a very interesting Batman. For me personally I think Jason Todd and Damian Wayne would have the best stories as Batman but because Damian has had so many stories and comic books, shows, movies, games, I think Jason should get his own. Batman with guns would fit his character so well.
In the universe or timeline with the murderous Tim Drake’s Batman, he spoke of Jason becoming Batman but having to give up the cowl because of his bad knee that never fully recovered after his resurrection.
Also, I love that Dick is the only one that hasn’t ever corrupt the symbol, even when Bruce himself did. Goes to show why he will always be Bruce’s greatest success
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Honestly, I think Terry McGinnis is the best option, but Dick is a solid second choice.
The two Batmen are Tim Drake and Dick Grayson, Tim would go for detective cases and Dick would go for everything else.
You should do every time someone else dress as Batman
I want Cassandra Cain to become the next Batman and for her Robin to be Maps Mizoguchi from the Gotham Academy series.
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11:13 I think Dick will be best suitable for Batman cause he got experience and with his humor as Spiderman everyone will love him otherwise Damian Wayne also have potential
Personally i think that Damian taking the mantle in the B&tB and DCced ones are my favorite.I just like how Batman’s tragedy is essentially what makes Damian into A Hero(both because of his father and weight behind it)
When in others stories its easy to pin Bruce and Damian against each other for various reasons
Hey Needle. The Arkham trilogy finally came to switch!
Tbh I feel like Dick and Damien are the best suited candidates to replace Bruce as the caped crusader
Clayface pretending to be Jason was during the Hush storyline, not Battle For The Cowl
I feel like Tim would be more close to Bruce as you can get since he has the brain, the brawn, the tactical skills, and iq
I always like these videos
Forgot when the justice league went to the sixth dimension, home of the world forger, and meet a different reality/future versions of themselves. Bruce was dead and one of the Dick became batman
I’ll always stand by my opinion that Tim should be the next Batman, then Terry. Dick has stated himself that he wants to be his own hero, Bruce has also made a point that he trained Dick to be better than him and not go down the same road as he did. Now I know that he was Batman for a while but just in this case I’m putting that aside,.
Jason will never be Batman because he can’t respect Bruce’s code, he still respects Bruce but he just can’t be Batman I don’t see it happening, he’s Red Hood like Dick he’s his own hero in his own right.
Damien will most likely lead the League of Assassins and make them a force for good and to follow his fathers code. Mind you he was a good Batman in DCeased and was the only Robin left since they all died. He dose have the skills in the main continuity but I really think he’ll be a better leader for the league
Now why I think Tim is the best candidate. Firstly he’s a master detective and probably more so than Bruce himself. He has a better outlook on Bruce’s mission too, he convinced him not to go too far and cross the line when Jason died. Another good point is that he’s a natural born leader, I mean just read Geoff Johns run on Teen Titans. Not to mention he’s also been trained by Bruce himself as were all the other Robins. Tim will always be my top choice, I would love to see him as an actually good Batman and not just an evil alternate version
I wonder what would make batman break mentally and how long would it take
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Either Dick Grayson, Damian Wayne or Cassandra Cain 🤷🏻♂️
Dceased Damian as Batman is one of the most sympathetic and compassionate batman I've seen in a while.... He's pretty great as bats... a side of batman I haven't seen as often.... Dceased Damian is my favorite version of Damian....
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Batman Jason & Robin Damian = Gotham City suddenly has the lowest crime rate In the world
Dick will always have to become Batman Once Bruce Retires
i think all the best times are with dick grayson but i feel we dont get enough batman and nightwing team ups i like the idea of nightwing fighting along side batman as his partner (as oppose to sidekick as when he is robin )
Does the arkham games count where Jason tried to be a better bat man
The whole Jason was Clayface happened in Hush not Under the Red Hood.
You forgot when Tim becomes Batman in detective comic #966.
This is the same version of Tim as in the video - Titan's Tomorrow Tim Drake
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I think Dick would be the best choice, and, to me, having him being recognized in that way is always validating. However, I'd prefer if he kept being his own hero and making a name for himself.
It's too bad Terry McGinnis died in the DC comic books because he was like my second favorite Batman
I wish the director of batman under the Red Hood anniversary edition made a choice where we can make jason become batman and be wearing the suit that clayface made in battle for the cowl.
Tim, Because Dick wanted out of Batman's shadow and be his own hero, Shouldnt be Jason Because Jason has his own Moral Code and is not always with the Batfamily, and Damian for now should just stay as robin.
0:50 I would’ve love this story to get adapted
Made up that whole scenario with Jason. That was the actual Jason in Battle for the cowl.
While I'd be perfectly happy with a Grayson Batman, if I had my preference (and a way to do it without insulting Nightwing) my vote would go to Tim Drake.
Thinking about it, though, I do wonder who his Robin would be; I sincerely doubt Damien would be happy working with him.
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Dick Grayson, Damian Wayne, Terry McGinnis, John Blake, and Future Batman Inc.
I really like robin and Nightwing
My favorite alternative Batman is terry
When super boy prime was destroying everything Jason was Batman in a different universe.
Do you mean in 'Battle For The Cowl'? cos that was later revealed/retconned to be Clayface in disguise. I know that story lead to DC deciding that Superboy Prime would alter reality so he came to life again but I thought that was the closest he got to the batsuit (If shapeshifter proxy counts). But if there's another story then do you know comic title and issue number? Cos I'd love to read that
I remember read a comic where Bruce retired dick become Batman and demian be his robin, and when dick killed by some boom, demian became Batman, I forgot the name of this comic
Though with the injustice 2 universe Damian Wayne Batman, i can only assume that he'd only kill if that was a last resort given by the gcpd but it had to be done humanely
This doesn’t count but I wanted to mention that in the lego Batman movie Alfred wears what I think is the Adam west bat suit
Their was an alternate jason who didn't die and was batman.
I think Jason Todd would be a good batman but he would only need to murder 1 criminal like the joker to show that he won't mess around with batmans more serious rogues.
It has canonically been stated that Damian becomes Batman in basically every universe at some point(yeah Terry is Batman in one but we later learn Damian briefly took the mantle before deciding it against it,which is an oddity in the multiverse)
The true successor isn't up to fans and their petty preferences,the answer has long been given.
Sure,Dick becomes Batman in like 5 universes?Terry in 3 i think,and Tim in atleast 1.
Problem is Damian does it an INFINITE amount of times
Heck in one of version of Terrys he is actually a TRAINEE of Damian Waynes Batman
DCSEASED showed he is the most worthy,Earth 55,a universe virtually identical to the main one till the virus started.
He became a legendary hero even though he sacrificed his life at age 17.
Why the hate on Damian?
He is more complex and developed than Terry,he has a stronger dynamic with Bruce for obvious reasons,he has a great brotherhood with Nightwing(you read right people that only know Injustice and DCAMU),he has more story due to the Al Ghul drama.
There is a reason actual writers usually choose Damian(including Grant Morrison)and fanboys choose other characters.
Writers actually learn what makes a good story,they understand dynamics.
Damian was taught since he was a toddler than the Batman is something legendary,his mother explained it to him like its something godly.
He literally wore a batsuit that was too big for him while he was 4 and it was hilarious,what monster doesn't want him to become after that?
DC has been building up to it for 15 years straight
The dynamic of will he become like Ras or like his father is great.
Terry has basically nothing in comparison to this.
He is a B class player regardless of fans feelings
Rocksteady themselves were going to make a Damian Wayne Arkham game instead of Terry.
You think you know more aboht writing than them?
"We all know Terry is the true successor"
No,you dont know shit besides what you feel
Also Needlehouse,did you really say Batman 666 Damian is an evil Batman?
Have you read a comic in your life or do you just google facts about make it into a video?
And you made it only one part of the video?
Batman 666 is the definitive second Batman after Bruce
His story and universe has been reappearing constantly these decades.
Evil?
He literally sold his soul to protect the city his father loved even though it was ruined at that point cause Dick was dead and Bruce got old quickly for some reason.
He is best friends with Conner Superboy who succeeded Superman and they are said to have fought many threats together.
He became Batman at the age of 14!!! He gave everything for his father at age 14!
He has difficulty not killing criminals at first but by Nuclear Winter he is able to stop killing after Bruces spirit asks him to not kill Ras Al Ghul
In DC One Million Damian as Batman is still remembered ad a legend and referred to as Batman 2nd
What an embarrassment,maybe you should delete your channel, what a complete failure
Honestly, the only characters I can ever properly see taking the mantle of Batman are Tim, Damien, and Terry. Imo it kind of just goes against Nightwing's character to ever become Batman, and Jason isn't particularly suited for the role.
You forgot about the pre-crisis Earth-Two dick Grayson who did take up the mantle after Bruce death in 1979 and again after convergence when Earth-Two was resurrected. Also Jason Todd of Earth-15 when he was batman
Great video as always! But did he forget the hush storyline comics when nightwing became batman after Bruce "died". And hush was pretending to be Bruce or am I wrong?
That's Batman Reborn storyline. Storyline where Hush "replaced" Bruce is connected to Batman Reborn
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6:58 he didn’t exist at the time
i don't remember the name of comic but there is an alternate timeline comic in which superman goes rogue for don't know and the batman he was fighting was jason todd whom he crashed into the sun killing him
You got battle for the cowl and hush confused. I’m Batman hush it’s reveled that clay face was disguised as jason then dc really brought him back as red hood in 2005 nearly 5 years before battle for the cowl was released
You miss the current damian in future also hinted to become batman infact he is batman in future where wonderwoman hava a daughter lizzie its very new in wonderwoman comic by tomking but dccomic future change every time
wasn't there a Jason Todd Batman that killed the joker in apocalypse war, or whatever the movies called where darkseid wins?
It should be Jason he would be a great Batman
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in my opinion, i think either dick grason or tim draik will become batman
What is the opening snip bit from? Don’t remember seeing animation like that for Batman besides maybe the Telltale games
In the teen titans go TV show the teen titans went to the justice league fortress and they each became a member of the justice league cyborg was Green Lantern Robin was Batman it was a dick Grayson robin StarFire was the flash Raven was wonder woman and beast boy was Martian Manhunter and they were temporary liver justice league members and they battled Darkside to save the justice league
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I think uh Jason Todd can be the new batman well just hear me out ok I know that Jason Todd aka the red hood but what if he stops uses his guns and etc and to me I can ship both Jason Todd and barba Gordon so the 2 will be batman and batwoman for a DC what if.... comic for that version of batman just think about both Jason and Barbra wearing both black and red for Jason Todd bat suit and black and yellow for Barbra so yeah so if I got ms Gordon name right so let now and if they have their own kids uh 1 of them will be named jade todd uh something like that that comic DC what if..... will be a cool 1 to read anyway so yeah and peace out :)
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