Are the Prophet's Parents in Hellfire?

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  • @SafinaSociety
    @SafinaSociety  7 днів тому +1

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  • @AlphaMaverick1111
    @AlphaMaverick1111 День тому +2

    The parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ) are undoubtedly amongst the most excellent of people.

  • @ronaldoromario
    @ronaldoromario 9 днів тому +6

    Both the Blessed Parents of our Prophet Sallalahu Alaihu Wa Salam will be granted Highest Honour in Jannah...

  • @hassanshahid2279
    @hassanshahid2279 12 днів тому +21

    Thank you so much for this video. It cleared up some misconceptions I had, and helped me understand the different views within the realm of Islam. Jazakallah kharain shaykh

  • @ayyubvernon1557
    @ayyubvernon1557 12 днів тому +78

    This is a crazy question to ask, but even then should be done in a scholarly fashion. If you're arguing in these comments about who's in the fire from the prophet's family, you've got a screw loose and you need to check yourself. It's disrespectful to utter such filth.

    • @squidguard1
      @squidguard1 11 днів тому +11

      There are classical scholars that even wrote books on this question, so I wouldn’t say it’s filth if a person holds the opposing opinion

    • @muhammedshanushan3931
      @muhammedshanushan3931 10 днів тому

      What’s theologically wrong in prophet’s ﷺ parents being in hell?
      You sound like a racist if you see a problem

    • @lanilub
      @lanilub 9 днів тому +5

      Why is it disrespectful when we can say that ibraheems alayhu Assalam parents are in hell?

    • @punjabipendu
      @punjabipendu 9 днів тому

      ​@@lanilubIbrahim as's parents received the message of tawhid from. ALLAH and rejected it.

    • @lanilub
      @lanilub 9 днів тому +2

      @@punjabipendu This may be and I'm not saying Muhammad saws parents are in hell but just technically even if Allah would say they are in hell then that's not disrespectful or anything because just because you are the parent of a prophet that doesn't mean you're free from mistakes or anything that's just what I'm saying.

  • @awaisjamil9956
    @awaisjamil9956 12 днів тому +10

    Jazakallah khair shaykh, this matter was confusing to me and was cleared in the first 45 seconds of the video

  • @RaiyanibnAther
    @RaiyanibnAther 11 днів тому +24

    Could we change the title, it seems very gut wrenching. Perhaps “fate of the Prophet’s (ﷺ) Parents” or something which wouldn’t make him ﷺ hurt when seeing it.
    Jazak Allahu khayran

    • @TechSyndrome
      @TechSyndrome 8 днів тому +6

      What a thoughtful way of thinking of our Prophet (SAW). May Allah grant you the highest levels of jannah ameen. The best comment I’ve ever read on UA-cam.

    • @RaiyanibnAther
      @RaiyanibnAther 8 днів тому +3

      @@TechSyndrome May Allah bless you and increase you in 'aafiyah and yaqin, and may He reward you and give you more than what you asked for me. Jazāk Allāhu Khayr'an for your kind words. It is disturbing how even today people of so-called "knowledge" do not treat the Prophet (ﷺ) with the respect which is demanded, this title should not even be a thing, even when defending Him ﷺ.
      May Allāh give us the love of the Prophet (ﷺ) and his true ta'dhīm. Please @safinasociety change this title.

    • @AdamFirdaus-wm2xm
      @AdamFirdaus-wm2xm 5 днів тому

      The prophet صلى الله عليه و سلّم will see this?

    • @ha.alamin
      @ha.alamin 4 дні тому

      I changed the title for users of DeArrow extension, which replaces clickbait titles and thumbnails with (voted on) user submissions; maybe someone can edit the thumbnail to change the text in there as well.

    • @AlphaMaverick1111
      @AlphaMaverick1111 11 годин тому

      @@RaiyanibnAther Well said. Amazing comment. One must exercise extreme caution when speaking of the noble and honourable parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ). Any devout Sunni Muslim must only think good about the honourable parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ). We are nothing and nobody without the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ).

  • @israfaeldari5532
    @israfaeldari5532 12 днів тому +13

    That goes to people who didnt get message like the people of Amazon, native Americans, and many indigenous people.

    • @thesun5323
      @thesun5323 10 днів тому +1

      But were not many messengers sent to various communities,? Cant we assume these early people of the Americas also heard a message?

  • @mohammedsahor
    @mohammedsahor 12 днів тому +7

    Say, “Is it other than Allah I should desire as a lord while He is the Lord of all things? And every soul earns not except against itself, and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return, and He will inform you concerning that over which you used to differ.” ~ Qur’an 6:164

  • @sparephone8228
    @sparephone8228 11 днів тому +7

    The Qur'an makes it clear that God would never punish a people who have never been shown any devine guidance. The teachings of Ishmael and Ibrahim had long been forgotten by the Arabs. However the Qur'an also raises the question of devine retribution for crimes committed by human beings. A good example is that of the pagan Arabs who used to bury alive their female infants.

  • @Chantaloweissi
    @Chantaloweissi 11 днів тому +32

    i'm so glad you guys are taking up more space online. We need more orthodox Islam to be represented, jazakallahu khairan

    • @AmirMohammed-go5ss
      @AmirMohammed-go5ss 10 днів тому +2

      What's orthodox islam?

    • @scishowwithmoh7216
      @scishowwithmoh7216 10 днів тому +2

      @@AmirMohammed-go5ss Authentic islam

    • @GoodByeSkyHarborLive
      @GoodByeSkyHarborLive 9 днів тому

      This isn't orthodox. It's barelwi sufi heretic Islam.

    • @adgame0625
      @adgame0625 9 днів тому +6

      ​@@scishowwithmoh7216 innovated islam u mean

    • @adgame0625
      @adgame0625 9 днів тому +2

      Dont worry u are getting nowhere close to ahlu sunnah, bunch of innovators

  • @karimb972
    @karimb972 12 днів тому +5

    I love this Cheikh

  • @saymasultana339
    @saymasultana339 12 днів тому +25

    Thanks for this explanation. I also thought this. Islam was not there in that time. Then why they ended up in Jahannam?
    Also, I don’t understand why people are so obsessed about whose going Jannat and Jahannam. Man think about your Jannat. You don’t need to think about others. People are too obsessed with others life than theirs.

  • @Somebody294
    @Somebody294 3 дні тому

    Jazakum Allah khair

  • @mohammedsahor
    @mohammedsahor 12 днів тому +1

    Say, Whoever is in error - let the Most Merciful extend for him an extension until, when they see that which they were promised - either punishment or the Hour - they will come to know who is worst in position and weaker in soldiers. ~ Qur’an 19:75

  • @AlphaMaverick1111
    @AlphaMaverick1111 День тому +1

    The parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ) are infinitely superior to my own parents.

  • @mohammedsahor
    @mohammedsahor 12 днів тому +2

    Say, Indeed, my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah, Lord of the worlds. ~ Qur’an 6:162

  • @irshadazeez4764
    @irshadazeez4764 12 днів тому +2

    The trade off is that those who dont receive the message are exposed to more spiritual risks. And they dont have the knowledge on how to positively influence their record of account with Allah. It will be upto Allah to judge individually.

  • @abbas-ali
    @abbas-ali 7 днів тому +2

    How can you say they in fire when ALLAH swt chose them to be the parents of our prophet pbuh..

  • @onlymeho1493
    @onlymeho1493 12 днів тому +7

    Subhanallah

  • @MillhouseSpeaks
    @MillhouseSpeaks 12 днів тому +15

    MāshāAllāh well explain covered pretty all common areas of the topic

  • @tayyabshafeeq9026
    @tayyabshafeeq9026 12 днів тому

    Which quranic verse did he point out regarding hurting the Prophet? Ina zalika kana uzin nabi? Can someone please tell me the number?

  • @wrxfreak1
    @wrxfreak1 10 днів тому

    Jzk Ustaadh

  • @mohsinraza9587
    @mohsinraza9587 8 днів тому

    Masha allah shaikh ❤

  • @Styrophoamicus
    @Styrophoamicus 8 днів тому

    Lots of opinions on this topic, good evidence on both sides, but ultimately it's our own self we have to worry about. For everyone else, we have to believe that Allah will treat them with justice in the hereafter.

  • @greenplanet7767
    @greenplanet7767 12 днів тому +5

    أحسنت شيخ
    فلله الحمد و الشكر لله رب العالمين

  • @aqibgazisports3046
    @aqibgazisports3046 9 днів тому

    Sheikh, do we do refrain from saying wretched people like Netanyahu are in the hell fire as well?

  • @TherealStevenSeagal
    @TherealStevenSeagal 6 днів тому

    Mashallah ❤

  • @Ebaadsiddique
    @Ebaadsiddique 9 днів тому +1

    This is a matter in which there is a difference of opinion:
    Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
    Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
    This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.

  • @ShabirHakim
    @ShabirHakim 7 годин тому

    I only understand one thing from all this misconception, we must not associate anything with Allah. No one is forgiven on the day of judgment if they do shirk

  • @Id1126574
    @Id1126574 12 днів тому +18

    Those that don’t receive the message in this world will be tested on day of judgement

    • @surendirenparthasarathy9087
      @surendirenparthasarathy9087 12 днів тому +5

      Did u listen to what he said?
      He said the dunya is the abode of testing. There is no more testing in hereafter

    • @Dontcallmeapusok
      @Dontcallmeapusok 12 днів тому

      If u we’re a mushrik no matter if u received a message or not you will be in hell

    • @khairt1731
      @khairt1731 12 днів тому +7

      ​@@surendirenparthasarathy9087 you obviously didnt listen. The test is in receiving the message of islam. If anyone hasnt received the message of islam will not be tested accordint to Islamic standards. They will be tested in different ways

    • @FactsWithActs
      @FactsWithActs 12 днів тому +4

      ​​@@surendirenparthasarathy9087
      That is one opinion and it is illogical
      Why do certian people get to live life however they want without being tested and then go to jannah according to you
      Having a test on yawm al Qiyāmah is the most logical and fair view
      the hadīth in musnad is clear

    • @irshadazeez4764
      @irshadazeez4764 12 днів тому +1

      ​@FactsWithActs Or they may not be tested.
      The believers record will be different to the non-believers. The believer has some degree of conscious influence over his or her record because they are given guidance on how to earn the favour of Allah or perform valid acts of repentance. The non-beleiver misses out on the opportunities to influence their record because they didn't have access to Islamic guidelines.
      That's the trade off.
      And Allah then judges both fairly.

  • @Mehmet_Fateh
    @Mehmet_Fateh 12 днів тому +7

    I cannot fathom the fact that some people insist on persuing this point.
    What benefit is there on such rabid insistence on something that is clearly a difference of opinion?
    Pause of a minute. Breathe. Ask yourself why you exert such energy on trying to force people to believe that the parents of the Best of Creation ﷺ are in the fire.
    What is the benefit?

    • @yushaumeri6292
      @yushaumeri6292 12 днів тому

      To Salafis and Wahhabis it's like a pissing contest. The more they can boost their ego, the more they like delving into it. Their parents didn't love them as children and now they're taking their anger out on the rest of us

    • @RaiyanibnAther
      @RaiyanibnAther 8 днів тому +1

      Nifāq in the hearts. They should pause and reflect, this is the blessed woman he (ﷺ) broke down crying tears for, how would he (ﷺ) feel if he (ﷺ) saw their comments and words?
      و الذين يؤذون رسول الله لهم عذاب عظيم

    • @AM-bm9rs
      @AM-bm9rs 7 днів тому +2

      @@RaiyanibnAther I understand your point but It is an important question, Prophets cry for their family and their people because they love them and want guidance for them, even if they are kuffar a Prophet will still cry out of compassion and wanting good for them.

    • @alvirarahman574
      @alvirarahman574 22 години тому +1

      You are kidding me right? So, best of creation means their father is also best of creation? Prophet Abraham (PBUH) is the friend of Allah, he is most dear to Allah, look at Abraham (A)'s father. Parents have nothing to do with their kids being good or bad. I am really tired of such ignorance.

  • @MrRiz157
    @MrRiz157 12 днів тому +6

    Where has the etiquette disappeared to? What fuels this obsession with condemning others, as if those doing the condemning are in a position of divine authority, passing judgment onto hell?
    The Prophet (pbuh) came to guide us away from hell, yet these individuals are recklessly condemning even the Prophet (pbuh) parents to such a fate.
    I agree with the speaker 100%

    • @asadwaseem7838
      @asadwaseem7838 9 днів тому

      Can you please shut up and stop spreading bs, ajeeb akhi he is discussing what is the belief of orthodox islam if you have an issue with that then go back in time and change the views of Ashab r.a. tabaieen r.a. and taba tabaien.

    • @MrRiz157
      @MrRiz157 9 днів тому

      @@asadwaseem7838 which akhi are you referring to?

    • @AM-bm9rs
      @AM-bm9rs 7 днів тому

      it is a valid question.

    • @AlphaMaverick1111
      @AlphaMaverick1111 День тому

  • @sallubegg6225
    @sallubegg6225 11 днів тому +1

    Last hadith he said "i come from pure loins etc" is fabricated its from al hilya by abu naim which is a book about early sufism mostly. We are extremely saddened by it but if RasoolAllah (pbuh) said his parents are in hell now we can't dispute anymore. May Allah guide us all.

  • @mr.knightthedetective7435
    @mr.knightthedetective7435 3 дні тому

    No one has ensured way into Heaven, that's the truth but Allah is Merciful and He knows for how long one should remain in Hell, its all dependent on our life in this world and how close we are in faith to Him, Allah has made it easy for us on how to go to heaven but we have to work our way to it and prove we are worthy to enter

  • @owncraticpath
    @owncraticpath 5 днів тому

    We don't know, but let me share with you a more authentic narration.
    Allah subhana wa taala narrated that the Prophet peace be upon said: “I do not say to you that I possess Allah’s treasuries or know the unseen, nor do I claim to be an angel. I only follow what is revealed to me.” and he afterwards said “Are those blind equal to those who can see? Will you not then reflect?”

  • @kozureokami8374
    @kozureokami8374 3 дні тому

    Two points:
    1. I’d take the attitude of Imam Ahmad and not talk about things like this.
    2. The point about not talking about if we believe in it is a valid point. And Imam Shaaf’ie (rh) out of respect to Muhammad (saw) did not mention the name of His (saw) daughter in the Hadith of Usama (rh) in relation to punishment.

  • @sabir9336
    @sabir9336 10 днів тому +3

    Jazakallah kairan shayekh. Its like my brain new window just opened.

  • @Kay-sd1fw
    @Kay-sd1fw 12 днів тому

    What about receiving the message of the prior messengers before Muhammad ﷺ received revelation?

    • @owaissheraz
      @owaissheraz 12 днів тому

      Do u think did he get any messages!!!???
      Even the prophet isa's message was distorted

    • @Kay-sd1fw
      @Kay-sd1fw 12 днів тому

      @@owaissheraz put a sock in your mouth. No one asked you and The prophet ﷺ said his father is in the hellfire so why you stinking asha’irrah have to always make ta’weel on everything. You interrupt everything based of your aql. Thinking your intellect is something special

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  11 днів тому +1

      They were all corrupted and nothing was reliable

    • @Kay-sd1fw
      @Kay-sd1fw 11 днів тому

      @@SafinaSociety Okay I agree the books were corrupted but does that mean all the idol worshippers that died in the period of between the books being corrupted and the revelation of Muhammad ﷺ are all excused ?

    • @mzasoof
      @mzasoof 10 днів тому

      Correct​@@Kay-sd1fw

  • @slimshady7625
    @slimshady7625 11 днів тому +1

    Hello wasn't prophet Salih as sent to the people of Arabia?

  • @sahaahmed8064
    @sahaahmed8064 8 днів тому +1

    If Allah (swt) revealed a whole chapter Honouring the mother of isa (as) Maryam , one of the greatest woman mentioned in the quran. Then what about the rank of the woman who bore the best of the creation to ever exist. (Saw)

    • @hamzaharun3333
      @hamzaharun3333 День тому

      Ridiculous. Maryam was great through her own merit, not her connection to her son. No one’s relation to another will save them on that day!

  • @muhammedshanushan3931
    @muhammedshanushan3931 10 днів тому

    Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
    Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
    This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.

  • @PiewPiew306
    @PiewPiew306 12 днів тому

    Is it true that the prophet saw cried heavily at the grave of his mother and then the sahaba cried also. What ŵas the reason of our proohet crying heavenly? Sorry if i made grammatical mistakes. English is not my mother tongue

    • @kledmohd4230
      @kledmohd4230 12 днів тому

      Can't someone cry when they miss their mother for long time and then meet them,?

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  11 днів тому

      Yes he wept but this would not indicate anything about heaven or hell

    • @AlphaMaverick1111
      @AlphaMaverick1111 День тому

      @@SafinaSociety ﷺ

  • @----f
    @----f 10 днів тому +5

    This is the best answer I've heard.

  • @sajeedfakier7784
    @sajeedfakier7784 10 днів тому +4

    How can this even be a question? Think of it logically. The womb that carries Allah swt greatest creation is in hell? What stupidity

    • @ronaldoromario
      @ronaldoromario 8 днів тому

      Brother the people who ask such type of questions are Munafiq...
      The Fish that kept Prophet Younus ( peace be upon him) in the stomach is granted Jannah only because it carried a Prophet ...Then what about the Blessed Parents of our Beloved Sallalahu Alaihi va salam who is the Master Of All prophets..
      These munafiqs have nothing to do with islam

    • @bobyford8051
      @bobyford8051 5 днів тому +1

      uhm, Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”

    • @hamzaharun3333
      @hamzaharun3333 День тому

      @@ronaldoromario What?! A clear fabrication! Where do you get your knowledge?! Check and be honest and follow the truth! And that same fish…. was a punishment for Nabiyillahi Yunus. And it caused him severe burns. Will someone else come now and say that the fish will go to hell for this? Ridiculous. May Allah bring us back to what He revealed away from the fabrications of man.

  • @marufuddin2393
    @marufuddin2393 10 днів тому

    2:45 could it be meant for Abu Talib instead? who was like a father and received and rejected the message?

    • @arandomhandsomeman7725
      @arandomhandsomeman7725 4 години тому

      The people that say Arabs are part of ahlal fatra say the prophet here meant Abu talib. But there are many ayah and hadith to show that Arabs aren't part of ahlal fatra

  • @RaiyanibnAther
    @RaiyanibnAther 8 днів тому

    الصلاة و السلام على سيدي عبدالله و سيدتي آمنة

  • @ahmadreyad983
    @ahmadreyad983 12 днів тому +10

    Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger, (ﷺ) as saying:
    I sought permission to beg forgiveness for my mother, but Allah did not grant it to me. I sought permission from Him to visit her grave, and He granted it (permission) to me.
    Sahih Muslim

    • @l3ll5l79
      @l3ll5l79 12 днів тому +1

      If she were a kâfir God wouldn't allow him to visit her grave probably. The reason God didn't allow him to ask forgiveness was probably that he pbuh wasn't allowed to ask forgiveness in an intercession manner to the people other than his ummah. Like in the hadeeth about the intercession stated

    • @Dontcallmeapusok
      @Dontcallmeapusok 12 днів тому +7

      @@l3ll5l79 you are permitted to visit the grave of your parents no matter what they were the Quran also mentions to keep a good relation with your parents even if they are disbelievers but don’t follow them in what they do I don’t know why people see that as problematic to accept that the mother of the prophet is in hell based on what she used to be and that’s an mushrika as it seems

    • @l3ll5l79
      @l3ll5l79 12 днів тому +2

      @@Dontcallmeapusok I don't know about this. You are making a categorical fallacy. Either way the opinion about being a mushrikah contradicts other narrations while violating core Islamic teachings. The conclusion of them is only conjecture based upon jumped conclusions. If there can be multiple interpretations the one with the least conflict to other narrations should be prioritised. Even basic Islamic manners should teach one that those kind of accusations should be based upon certain evidences not conjectures if there is any possibility that points out one should take this route but here it isn't necessary because the dominant weight is already that they are not disbelievers. There are other possible explanations too but this should be already enough don't you think?

    • @kingmosesix432
      @kingmosesix432 12 днів тому +5

      @@l3ll5l79
      The prophet was denied to make dua for her due to her being died as non Muslim…
      Just as Allah forbade abraham from praying for his father AFTER it became clear hes father was an clear enemy of God….
      U cant pray for musrikeen thts why the prophet salahu aligi wa salam was forbidden…….
      As for visiting graves if its ur family ofc we can.
      But as a rule we domt pray for mushrikeen..
      Whts so complex about this issue when the Prophet salahu alihi wasallam himself cleared it ?
      Plus this happened to previous ambiyas as well.

    • @l3ll5l79
      @l3ll5l79 12 днів тому

      @@kingmosesix432 your analogy is flawed even if we accept the father of Abraham pbuh as his biological father here the only thing making the two things similar is 1 there are parents of a prophet 2 God didn't allowed for asking forgiveness . the differences are 1 one is in his era the other is not from his pbuh ummah 2. One is allowed to visit the grave the other is not known 3. One explicitly disbelieved the other is not known 4 one had a warner from God the other had no warner stated by the Quran. Now an analogy is used when you don't know the conclusion of a matter but have a similar one that you know the conclusion of then you apply the one you know to the one you don't. But the most important thing is that when making an analogy the thing that determines the outcome must be similar if they are different the analogy becomes flawed. Here the similarities doesn't neccesates the conclusion therefore you can't use it as an analogy for this. here even most of the differences contribute more to the conclusion than the similarities. Why? Because the reason for not allowing to ask for forgiveness could be other than the conclusion like because they are not from his ummah. We have a similar case were God doesn't allow the Prophet pbuh for intercession other than his ummah not because they were disbelievers rather God limited the Prophets pbuh intercession to his ummah. And yes asking for forgiveness is an intercession. Like I stated above this way all other narrations are in harmony there is no conflict.

  • @Zoheb89
    @Zoheb89 8 днів тому

    What about the message of torah and injeel? The message surely reached?

  • @SS-lw8iv
    @SS-lw8iv 2 дні тому

    Grandfather of prophet was clearly making dua to Allah to protect the Kaaba from invasion of Abraha. So how can they (his family) be pagans or disbelievers ?

  • @thatmuslimstudent
    @thatmuslimstudent 10 днів тому

    It would be much better to respond to the islamqa article on stream.

  • @furqes
    @furqes 12 днів тому

    Ya, Sheikh, the point about Mushriks are Najis, isn't it talking about spiritual najasa because if I am not wrong there is a hadith saying bani adam is not najis? If I am mistaken, I ask for forgiveness.

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 12 днів тому

      Yes, spiritual najasah...
      Since Banu Adam are not physically Najis, then it's redundant to say that the prophet was passed from pure loins to pure wombs physically. And redundancy is impossible for revelation (be it Quran or Hadith)... So, the prophet had to mean spiritual najasah...

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  11 днів тому +1

      Correct. So then when he describes his forefathers as pure it is also a spiritual purity (from shirk)

  • @DrWoofOfficial
    @DrWoofOfficial 8 днів тому

    6:13 that could refer to being from loins free of zina

    • @hamzaharun3333
      @hamzaharun3333 День тому

      It in fact is. And he knows it. Using the ayah: “The musharikeen are najas..” is what shows the weakness in this argument. Be cause then it would mean the conclusion of his argument is that they were not mushrikeen. And that is obviously false.

  • @kunjinjaalamohammedaminhil1659
    @kunjinjaalamohammedaminhil1659 10 днів тому +1

    I have understood from this video not to say they are in Jahanam. May Allah forgive me for my past statements on this matter. But I think it is not also accurate to claim they are in Jannah. We just don't know. And it is not important for our theology.

  • @markward3981
    @markward3981 12 днів тому

    السلام عليكم
    What sharia text do we have saying this that people who never heard the message of Islam are in jannah.
    I thought we just remain silent on such people . This is where how we approach the text becomes extremely important. It is easy to yell we follow Quran and sunnah but how with what method...etc.
    Allah knows best

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 12 днів тому +1

      Exactly, we should remain silent, and not say it, even if you believe such. The Sheikh said this in the last minutes of the vid.

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  11 днів тому +1

      Quran, Isra 15

    • @markward3981
      @markward3981 11 днів тому

      @@SafinaSociety
      Jazak Allahu Khayran

  • @muhammedshanushan3931
    @muhammedshanushan3931 10 днів тому +4

    Muslim (976) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, but He did not give me permission. And I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.”
    It says in ‘Awn al-Ma’bood:
    “But He did not give me permission” means: because she was a kaafirah (disbeliever) and it is not permissible to pray for forgiveness for the kuffaar.
    Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
    This shows that it is not permitted to pray for forgiveness for the kuffaar.

  • @muhammedshanushan3931
    @muhammedshanushan3931 10 днів тому

    The questioner asked O Messenger of Allah, where is my father (Abi)
    Prophet ﷺ responded My (Ab) and your (Ab) are in Hell
    If Ab Is translated as uncle then it will be My uncle and your father are in Hell
    It doesn’t make any sense use the same differently without making it clear
    As for pure loins , it means not outside wedlock, of course they were idol worshippers (irrespective of whether accountable or not )

  • @AU-ic7ur
    @AU-ic7ur 12 днів тому +110

    Wahhabis trying their best to insult the parents of the Messenger of Allah (salallahu alayhi wa Salam) will never cease to amaze me

    • @Dont-worry1618
      @Dont-worry1618 12 днів тому

      Was Ibrahim (saw) father a kaffir???

    • @WaqasAli-ct7ly
      @WaqasAli-ct7ly 12 днів тому

      bro shut your mouth man its because of hadith they are doing it not because of hatred,

    • @malekwahba9667
      @malekwahba9667 12 днів тому +6

      What’s a wahhabi?

    • @FaisalKhan-md2tj
      @FaisalKhan-md2tj 12 днів тому +36

      It's not insulting if the evidence is there. Scholars have different views regarding this matter as for those who say his parents are in the hellfire, they use evidence as well.

    • @soulscribe_h
      @soulscribe_h 12 днів тому +16

      @@FaisalKhan-md2tj the thing is the lack of adab when speaking about this topic. The Prophet (s) cried profoundly at the grave of his mother and just as Dr. Shadee said, if he had that approach to Ikrimah, what about those that mention it and affirm it as if it was nothing? And same applies to Abu Talib.

  • @mogainz
    @mogainz 9 днів тому +1

    Honestly, this doesn't benefit you 1 bit if they are in heaven or hell Allah knows whats upon us is to gain beneficial knowledge that will benefit our dunia and akhira

    • @__hannahbanana
      @__hannahbanana 8 днів тому +1

      I definitely agree with you but if it’s not beneficial, why is it written in our religious doctrines then? Shouldn’t all Sahih hadiths be beneficial if we have to extract spiritual conduct & knowledge from them? 🤔 I think it’s worth the discussion 🤷‍♀️

  • @SI00000
    @SI00000 12 днів тому +1

    How is it that Muslims quote Prophets of the Old and New Testament about the coming of Muhammad yet accept that the family he is born to has no idea that Muhammad would be born from them? Does that make any sense? How would Allah make it known to so many for thousands of years of who Muhammad is and from where and under what circumstance he would be born and yet the very people from whom he would be born would not only have no idea but would also be pagan?
    Abraham knew so don't you think that at least one family line descending to Muhammad would also know?
    Allah favored the houses of Nuh, Ibrahim and Imran above all others for Prophecy which means that He would preserve the line from which Muhammad would be born from disbelief.
    How is it that we don't question that the families and parents of Abraham, Moses, Jesus were Believers yet for the greatest of all Prophets and God's Mercy to Mankind many Muslims are adamant that Muhammad was born from parents who were unaware, unexpecting idol worshipers.
    There are other strong sources that say Muhammad's parents were in fact strong Believers all the way back to Adam yet these are utterly rejected by the majority.
    Why is that?

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 12 днів тому +2

      Mecca and Medina are two different cities. The Jews went to Medina/Yathrib, not Mecca.

    • @SI00000
      @SI00000 10 днів тому

      @@elmajraz6019
      Yes because they knew that the Prophet would emerge from there and their hope was that he emerge from them but then rejected him when he did not.
      What does that have to do with Muhammad's parents not being Pagans and clueless about Muhammad?

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 10 днів тому

      @@SI00000 because Banu Hashim, the custodians of Mecca, never bowed down to an idol. Except one, the last of them, Abu Lahab.
      Yes, even Abu Talib never bowed to an idol. He was the one who married the Prophet to Khadija. Go and read his sermon. He swore by the Lord of Ibrahim and Ismail, not by Lat Manat and Uzza.

    • @SI00000
      @SI00000 10 днів тому

      @@elmajraz6019
      I am aware that the family of Muhammad, the Bani Hashim, were believers except for a few here and there like Abu Lahab.
      My initial comment was intended to make Muslims think and look deeper and understand that the same people who fought Muhammad for 23 years were the same people who quickly regained power not long after him and did all they could to bring down the name of Muhammad and the true teachings of the Quran and Islam.

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 10 днів тому

      @@SI00000 oh, I see that you're a Shia? Lol. Well, at least we both agree about the Prophet's parents (a.s.), not whatever n0n3s3nse you just wrote there.

  • @karimb972
    @karimb972 12 днів тому +2

    Haven't these Muslims heard of the hunafa? The monotheists that clung to the remains of tawheed left by prophets Ibrahim and Ismail (as)?

    • @abdirashidmohamud1136
      @abdirashidmohamud1136 11 днів тому

      There was no messenger sent to the Arab prior to prophet Mohamed so Allah will not punish them if he didn’t send them a messenger’s

    • @slimshady7625
      @slimshady7625 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@abdirashidmohamud1136 What about prophet Salih as

    • @AM-bm9rs
      @AM-bm9rs 7 днів тому

      @@abdirashidmohamud1136 Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “I saw ‘Amra ibn ‘Amr ibn Luhayy al-Khuza’i dragging his intestines in the Hellfire. He introduced the custom of releasing animals on behalf of false gods.”
      In another narration, the Prophet said, “He was the first to change the religion of Ishmael and set up idols.”
      Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3521
      Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari
      clearly this man is being punished for changing the religoin of the Arabs to polytheism. so yes they did have monotheism

  • @UAM-
    @UAM- 10 днів тому +1

    To be honest I struggled with this question but alhamdulilah the shaykh clarified it.
    I struggled particularly with the Quranic ayah in Surah Isra and the Apparent Hadith of the prophet.

  • @hamzaharun3333
    @hamzaharun3333 День тому

    To be accurate to the Quran’s wordings, it is not to seek forgiveness for the mushrikeen. In fact this ayah that was quoted in the video from surah tawbah is thorn in this argument ripping it apart. Allah said: “… after it been clarified that they are people of Hell.”
    Just as a matter of fact, this is a categorical proof that his (saw) mother is for hell. That’s because Allah only forbade seeking forgiveness for the polytheists after it’s clear that they are people of hell. And then authentically we know that he was specifically forbidden from seeking forgiveness for her. This is clear. As for his father, then his statement is categorical! And authentic! What’s left to conjecture!?
    Then to put this discussion into perspective:
    What about waraqah bin Nawfal? What about Zayd bin Amr bin Nufail?
    Are they the same as the other people of their time? No they are not. And Zayd bin Amr is proof that they knew about Ibrahim and his way and they chose to make shirk following their forefathers. It’s clear.

  • @Alif555
    @Alif555 11 днів тому +2

    But syiekh, my teacher is also an ash'arie,he told me that the parent of our prophet pbuh, already received the message of Islam at that time, because even though they lived in a jahiliya era, but there are still some abraham teaching, so based on the hadith and quran verses, it indicated that they know that is wrong to worship idols,but still chose to follow their ancestor way instead of way of Islam which then completed by our prophet pbuh.

  • @Iamfsaly
    @Iamfsaly 10 днів тому

    Bro started speaking like MBS and rejecting ahad Hadith lol

    • @omarabbasi2682
      @omarabbasi2682 8 днів тому

      Ahad ahadith are dhanni in thubut

    • @alvirarahman574
      @alvirarahman574 22 години тому +1

      It offends you that sheikhs are not blood worshipers ?

  • @fuadyunus2433
    @fuadyunus2433 6 днів тому

    Did Maryam accept the true message of her own son Ee'sa once the Injeel/Gospel was revealed upon the whole community, or did Maryam stay utmost firm upon the path of her forefathers and followed the guidance of Taurah/Torah to the teeth 🤔
    Was she convinced of her own son's new preachings, or was she firm upon her forefathers old teahings 🤔
    **Tbh knowing the answers really W-O-N-T benefit me or you**

    • @hamzaharun3333
      @hamzaharun3333 День тому +1

      She did. This a stupid question to begin with. By the way, I don’t mean that as an insult to you. Just as a matter of fact. Allah said she believed in her Lord’s words. That would not be true if she believed in some of revelation and rejected other parts. Just like if we were to reject the other books of Allah we would be considered kuffar. So e would not be considered a believer unless she believed in everything Allah revealed.

    • @alvirarahman574
      @alvirarahman574 22 години тому +1

      She is regarded as the best of woman in our religion, and an entire chapter of the Qur'an is dedicated to her. Since you don't know the sacrifices she made for Islam, and how difficult it was for her to give birth and take care of a beloved Rasool of Allah, I would say you are one of the worst of ignorants known to the Ummah.

  • @FarhatKCh
    @FarhatKCh 12 днів тому

    4:32 Why is it forbidden to say that the Prophet's parents are in hell?

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  11 днів тому +4

      It is forbidden to speak of anyone's otherwirldy destination without definitive proof

    • @AlphaMaverick1111
      @AlphaMaverick1111 День тому

    • @alvirarahman574
      @alvirarahman574 22 години тому +1

      Well, that's tricky question. Other than someone who is certified kafir, and refused Allah's message, like Firaun, we cannot say anyone is in hell or heaven. The most sure thing here is they definitely never got the message from Prophet Muhammad (SM) himself. So they will definitely be tested. But we don't know whether they will pass the test of the hereafter. Only Allah knows.

    • @AlphaMaverick1111
      @AlphaMaverick1111 11 годин тому

      @@alvirarahman574 Include, ﷺ. One must exercise extreme caution when speaking of the noble and honourable parents of the Last and Final Messenger of Allah Sayyiduna Muhammad (ﷺ).

  • @muhammedshanushan3931
    @muhammedshanushan3931 10 днів тому

    We reject and Tawil of every evidence bcz it contradicts with our baseless theological commitments

  • @majedalrasheed3314
    @majedalrasheed3314 12 днів тому

    But the prophet's parents did receive a message, though اهل الفترة are only those who never at all received anything about a messenger like they lived with the same amount of knowledge about a message as they were born , but even the prophet peace and blessings be upon him himself was aware of the religion of abraham before islam and that was his religion and waraqa ibn nawfal was from ahlul kitab and believed in the prophecies in the injeel about Mohammed . To summarize , there was a message conveyed to the prophet's (peace and blessings be upon him ) parents through the remnants of al haneefiyah (abraham's religion or ملة ابراهيم) , the true monotheistic christians , and other true remnants of people of the book

    • @khairt1731
      @khairt1731 12 днів тому +3

      5:58 Yes and thats why his parents are not in the hellfire. Allah chose pure parents as the parents for the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w

    • @majedalrasheed3314
      @majedalrasheed3314 12 днів тому +1

      @khairt1731 but then how did some other people in their time were not mushriks , like the ones I stated . If there was no message there during that period , how could some people follow ملة ابراهيم or people like abu bakr who never prostrated to an idol

    • @majedalrasheed3314
      @majedalrasheed3314 12 днів тому

      And to continue the hadith the guy stated forgot about the other رواية which has a start from the beginning and the prophet said ( (لَمْ يَلْتَقِ أَبَوَايَ فِي سِفَاحٍ، لَمْ يَزَلِ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ يُنَقِّلُنِي مِنْ أَصْلَابٍ طَيِّبَةٍ إِلَى أَرْحَامٍ طَاهِرَةٍ، صَافِيًا، مُهَذَّبًا، لَا تَتَشَعَّبُ شُعْبَتَانِ ، إِلَّا كُنْتُ فِي خَيْرِهِمَا).) So what the prophet عليه الصلاة والسلام meant from this is that his creation was from nikah so it was pure and not sifah which is not والله اعلم and albani said its isnad is not authentic and al shawkani said its موضوع

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 12 днів тому +1

      Our main argument is the Quran... These Hadiths, which as you said are Dhaif, are only supporting arguments... Your main argument is the Sahih Hadith...
      Quran (Mutawatir) vs Sahih Hadith (Ahad)
      Since we can't combine both narrations, we will suspend the Sahih Hadith, and hold on to the Quran, unless we can find a way to reconcile.

    • @majedalrasheed3314
      @majedalrasheed3314 12 днів тому

      @@elmajraz6019 and where in the quran does it say that the parents of our prophet peace and blessings be upon him are from ahlu al fatrah

  • @YoungSmirks
    @YoungSmirks 11 днів тому +1

    Refuses ahad hadith but believes khidr is still alive.

    • @AU-ic7ur
      @AU-ic7ur 9 днів тому +1

      Ahad Hadith in matters of Aqeedah. I know you’re a convert and all, but you’ve been Muslim long enough to have learned the basics by now big fella

    • @AM-bm9rs
      @AM-bm9rs 7 днів тому

      @@AU-ic7ur is the hadeeth about alkhidr being alive ilmulghayb?

    • @ryanamalfitano7572
      @ryanamalfitano7572 6 днів тому

      No that’s not the case. The general rule is we accept and take ahad Hadith. Suspending an ahad Hadith that is Sahih in its chain and narrators is the exception not the rule if the ahad Hadith contradicts the Quran or Mutawatir Hadith or other authentic Hadiths then we suspend it and don’t accept the apparent meaning of it without saying the Hadith is false but rather we say Allah knows the best whether the Prophet actually said it or not or what he meant by it or the context of it. But this is for the scholars to reconcile… There’s not many ahad Hadiths that are authentic where this applies, only a handful

  • @LadooCrew
    @LadooCrew 7 днів тому

    See how the people of sunnah and adab talk comoared to the najdiya wahabhiya insulters that have no idea how to show love and adab for the messenger of Allah peace be immaculate upon him his family and companions.

  • @AkiimboGaming1
    @AkiimboGaming1 12 днів тому

    Was Abdul Mutallib Muslim then too?

    • @AkiimboGaming1
      @AkiimboGaming1 12 днів тому

      As in not in hell fire ?

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 12 днів тому

      Yes, Abdul Muttalib was among the pure loins of the Prophet.

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  11 днів тому +1

      It is said he was a hanif and never bowed down to idols

    • @AkiimboGaming1
      @AkiimboGaming1 3 дні тому

      Ahsanallahu ilayk I’m Sheikhunah then is the Hadith regarding Abu lahab being told to ask the ﷺ prophet about Abdul Mutallib and he’s whereabouts, is it weak? If it isn’t why didn’t the ﷺ ﷺ prophet answer in favour . Allahualam . Also just for fairness on the topic , we’re there any major ulamah who have the opposing opinion. Jzk wa brk

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 2 дні тому

      @@AkiimboGaming1 could you provide the hadith text and/or source?
      And yes, there are scholars who oppose our Ash'ari-Maturidi opinion. Obviously, they are the Ahlul Hadith (Hanbali-Athari). Ibn Kathir al-Dimasyqi (r.a.) for example. But that was his ijtihad, a pure Hanbali scholar, before Ibn Taymiyyah's (r.a.) era of mixing and merging opinions from different schools of thought and jurisprudence.

  • @ADAM_sigma
    @ADAM_sigma 12 днів тому

    That's a bit of leap. Not sure. Did they receive the message? Message of what "Monotheism"? Why not. Hijab valley all the way to Yemen was occupied by numerous Jewish and Christian tribes. They practiced monotheism. 2400 yrs prior, Hajar and Prophet Ismael were left in that area around Mecca. Hajar was accompanied by Prophet Ibrahim and she must have been a strict monotheism. Do the message had already reached Mecca and Hijab. Finally, when the Messenger asked to pray for his mother's redemption, he was denied by Allah. That shouldn't have been prevented otherwise. Allah always knows best.

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 12 днів тому

      They have a vague figure of their ancestor Nabi Ibrahim... That was the last message, the message of Hanif. The Jews never went to Mecca, they went to Medina, Sham and Yemen, but not Mecca... Only for a pit stop, but they never settled there...

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  11 днів тому +2

      All messages were corrupted, and hence nobody libale. otherwise what would be the need of sending the Prophet ﷺ ?

    • @AM-bm9rs
      @AM-bm9rs 7 днів тому

      @@SafinaSociety
      what do you say about عَمْرَو بْنَ عَامِرِ بْنِ لُحَيٍّ الخُزَاعِيَّ

    • @alvirarahman574
      @alvirarahman574 22 години тому +1

      Christians are not monotheist. Not even Jews.

    • @alvirarahman574
      @alvirarahman574 22 години тому +1

      Your comment and understanding is a bit of a leap. How could you think a religion which says God has a son (Astagfirullah) is monotheistic? You cannot be serious?

  • @MegaTidehunter
    @MegaTidehunter 10 днів тому

    Then I think Imam Abu Hanifa should be called out, because in his book Fiqh ul Akbar he call the Prophets parents kafir and Mulla Ali Qari wrote a book defending this opinion of his.

    • @RaiyanibnAther
      @RaiyanibnAther 8 днів тому +1

      Mullā 'Alī al-Qārī changed his opinion three years before his death. Read his sharḥ on al-Qādī Iyyād's ash-Shifā. Regarding Abū Ḥanifā, there are several different views and manuscripts to this. Some say they are in Paradise, others say they passed on the fiṭra, and others mā mātu kāfira (they did not die disbelievers). When you say "the Prophet", I want to see you say "salla Llahu alayhi wa sallam". Don't take my Prophet's ﷺ name without sending salutations upon him.

    • @MegaTidehunter
      @MegaTidehunter 8 днів тому

      @@RaiyanibnAther I say the full, sallAllahu alayhi wa alayhi wasalam' every time, it is for me to say.
      So you are saying Fiqh Ul Akbar is not the work of Imam Abu Hanifa? Or are there multiple manuscripts of Fiqh ul Akbar?

    • @RaiyanibnAther
      @RaiyanibnAther 8 днів тому +1

      @@MegaTidehunter "he called the Prophets parents", I don't see the full written here. You're lying now on top of that. Also, Fiqh al-Akbar is the work of Abū Ḥanifa, according to a more sound view, and according to others, it is the work of his students based on his view. As for the second, yes, there are multiple manuscripts of Fiqh al-Akbar as there are with multiple old Islamic works and texts. There are often times differences in manuscripts, and this is a primary example.

    • @RaiyanibnAther
      @RaiyanibnAther 8 днів тому

      Multiple manuscripts does not mean there are multiple authors or multiple views of who wrote it. Often times transcribes copied the texts and maybe they interpreted the words differently. Back in Abū Ḥanifa's time, there were no ḥarakāt, and one commentator did mention in his commentary of Fiqh al-Akbar that in kufic font the words "kafir" and "fitra" looked very similar.

    • @MegaTidehunter
      @MegaTidehunter 8 днів тому +2

      @@RaiyanibnAther I said I 'Say' not that I 'wrote'.
      This is the unfortunate problem with getting emotionally attached to a firka or personality, like you have. You have to bend over backwards and do ridiculous taweels like 'they thought it said kafir but it was actually fitra'. Was mulla Ali qari completely oblivious of this and he went on to write a whole book defending this opinion rather than just writing one line 'it was a miss print/bad handwriting'?
      Why is it soo difficult from Muslims to admit and concede that their scholars can make blunders, i see the salafis going over board and doing taweels for every single thing Ibn taymiyyah or Albani has ever said, rather than saying they were not perfect and just admitting it.

  • @yislam786ify
    @yislam786ify 11 днів тому

    What? To even ask that question...

  • @qoobsmcdoobs1
    @qoobsmcdoobs1 9 днів тому

    But isn't shirk unforgiveable? Someone could have a concept of a Creator, but they could associate partners and diminish His glory. How is that person going to jannah?

    • @ryanamalfitano7572
      @ryanamalfitano7572 7 днів тому

      They aren’t accountable until the message reaches them. Shirk is unforgivable but they aren’t accountable for it if the true message of Islam never reached them as Allah says in the Quran that he will never punish any people until he sends a messenger and Allah also says that the disbelievers and polytheists in hellfire will cry out to the angels “tell your Lord to put an end to us” and then the angels will say “was a warner not sent to you” and they will say yes but we denied. So clearly those in hellfire are those whom a warner was sent to them

  • @ardianbrahim4275
    @ardianbrahim4275 3 дні тому

    Subhan Allah!!
    The proof was established against his parents through the message of Ibrahim!
    This is how and why Allah did not allow his beloved prophet to ask for forgiveness for his mother.
    The fact that Allah did not allow the prophet to ask for forgiveness for his mother is a proof that his mother died as a kafir with the proof being established upon her.
    Because it is known through the Quran and ijma that it is not allowed to ask Allah to forgive the disbelivers.
    it amazez me how some people can look for any reason they can find in order to justify their desires.

    • @hamzaharun3333
      @hamzaharun3333 День тому

      To be accurate to the Quran’s wordings, it is not to seek forgiveness for the mushrikeen. Of course you are correct in your assertions. Of fact this ayah is thorn in their argument ripping it apart. Allah said: “… after it been clarified that they are people of Hell.”
      Just as a matter of fact, this is a categorical proof that his (saw) mother is for hell. That’s because Allah only forbade seeking forgiveness for the polytheists after it’s clear that they are people of hell. And then authentically we know that he was specifically forbidden from seeking forgiveness for her. This is clear. As for his father, then his statement is categorical! And authentic! What’s left to conjecture!?

    • @ardianbrahim4275
      @ardianbrahim4275 День тому

      @@hamzaharun3333 shirk and kufr are the same akhi in the shari perspective

  • @FarhatKCh
    @FarhatKCh 12 днів тому +1

    Alhamdulillah, what difference it makes when you take knowledge from a scholar and not from books!

  • @arandomhandsomeman7725
    @arandomhandsomeman7725 4 години тому

    The Arabs and especially quraish are not part of ahlal fatra. Abdullah bin judan prophet mention he is in hell even though his from ahlal fatra

  • @abdullaha9906
    @abdullaha9906 5 днів тому

    Wasn't Ikrimah a Khariji?

  • @ejazzjazz7483
    @ejazzjazz7483 5 днів тому

    Fatha kallubuka fis shaajidheen...

  • @owncraticpath
    @owncraticpath 5 днів тому

    Subhanallah, i get what this means.
    But Islam did not originate in the 7th century.
    So to claim "have you heard about Islam" to mean the major Islamic sects that came after the revelation of the Quran and deem it scripture is simply not true.
    There are believers among the people, who received the message of Islam, even if they don't know about the Quran or Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
    Abraham peace be upon him is the best example of a muslim, he is the leader of mankind as the Quran mentions, he is the role model the prophet Muhammad himself followed as the Quran tells us, and yet he didn't hear of the prophet Muhammad necessarely directly, nor of the Quran, he was the one who make dua for the Prophet to come actually, not the other way around...
    So anyone who was truly following the Taurat or and the Injeel or the best they got and were in submission to God are muslims by definition and they shall have their reward.
    And they may have received messengers, just not with the latest revelation, but perhaps with other of the verses of Allah subhana wa taala as i mentioned be it from the Taurat or the Injeel.
    In any case believers are few, they have always been consistently the minority except in counted occasions...
    But Allahu 3alam.
    Salamun alaikum
    (I might have made the comment before the video, actually i though he was gonna say they are in hellfire, but either way, we don't know, to claim people came there to not be tested and go to paradise no matter what they did makes no sense, if anything they would be judged based on the fitrah, because they did have a moral consciousness inserted by Allah subhana wa taala, so that at least should be binding, unless you believe there are exceptions and some people get recreated on earth, but i see no evidence for that in the Quran, Allahu 3alam, i see the opposite.)

  • @user-zp9hs3ub4q
    @user-zp9hs3ub4q 11 днів тому +1

    That is false interpretation. The Prophet said my farther is in hell fire its very clear cut

    • @omarabbasi2682
      @omarabbasi2682 11 днів тому

      Did you not watch the video?

    • @user-zp9hs3ub4q
      @user-zp9hs3ub4q 11 днів тому

      @omarabbasi2682 I did and it does not make sense what he is saying. The Prophet said my farther is in hell clearly

    • @musfiqurkashem8614
      @musfiqurkashem8614 11 днів тому

      Exactly he said ther person's father why the Prophet deceive someone saying he didn't mean his own father. If that's the person's explanation we know from the seerah it was Abu Mutalib and Abu Talib that took care of him. Abraham was not allowed to ask forgiveness for his father. The Prophet couldn't make dua for his own mother. It is not for the Prophet and those who have believed to ask forgiveness for the polytheists, even if they were relatives, after it has become clear to them that they are companions of Hellfire.} [Quran 9:113]

    • @elmajraz6019
      @elmajraz6019 10 днів тому

      If he said Walid, that would indeed be clear cut. But he said Ab.

    • @ryanamalfitano7572
      @ryanamalfitano7572 6 днів тому

      Actually the majority of scholars agree that the parents of the Prophet were either Hanifs upon the religion of Ibrahim (alayhi salam) or are excused due to the message not having reached them due to living in the time in the gap between 2 prophets and the majority of scholars interpret those Hadiths the same as Dr Shadee. Only the Wahabis say that the Prophet’s actual biological parents are in hellfire. It is unique only to Wahabis. That’s the problem that Wahabis are a minority sect yet have the loudest voice and internet algorithms have their content as top results online

  • @khairt1731
    @khairt1731 12 днів тому +7

    I consider any person that insults the parents of our Prophet Muhammad s.a.w my enemy.
    I dont care who you are watch what you say around me, wahabis.

    • @kingmosesix432
      @kingmosesix432 12 днів тому +3

      Why would insult his parents ? Sallahu aliwa sallam.
      But whts apparent is that they lived and died among non Muslims and was among them…….
      We have sahih evidence they r in nar AS PER THE PROPHET SALAHU ALHI WA SALAM HIMSELF.
      This happened to previous prophets as well……

    • @asifrana232
      @asifrana232 12 днів тому +1

      @@kingmosesix432 uh.... brother. he literally explained that. what are you talking about. You want us to act that he did not mention and explain the contexts of the hadith?

    • @obiwan9576
      @obiwan9576 12 днів тому +2

      Is Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) your enemy?
      Muslim (203) narrated from Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man said: “O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?” He said: “In Hell.” When he turned away he called him back and said: “My father and your father are in Hell.”
      Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
      This shows that whoever dies in a state of kufr will be in Hell. And being related to one who is close to Allah will not avail him anything. It also shows that whoever died during the fatrah (the interval between the Prophethood of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and that of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) and was the follower of the way of the Arabs at that time, which was idol worship, will also be among the people of Hell. There is no excuse for the call not reaching them, because the call of Ibraaheem and other Prophets (peace be upon them) had reached these people.

    • @RaiyanibnAther
      @RaiyanibnAther 11 днів тому +2

      Exactly. Don’t they dare utter anything about them with their filthy tongues. I will sacrifice my life for Sayyidi Abdullah and Sayyidati Aminah (عليهما الصلاة و السلام)

    • @AM-bm9rs
      @AM-bm9rs 7 днів тому

      @@RaiyanibnAther Do we have any clear cut evidence about whether thay are in Jannah?

  • @osamarizwan2728
    @osamarizwan2728 12 днів тому

    I really wish that the prophet (pbuh) meets his parents in Jannah. Also, I want to ask if I can pray for the forgiveness of prophet's mother if I am blessed to visit her grave?

    • @yushaumeri6292
      @yushaumeri6292 12 днів тому

      Ask a Sufi Sheikh. Don't ask a wahhabi or a Salafi otherwise they're going to scream at you for even asking that question

    • @obiwan9576
      @obiwan9576 12 днів тому

      Muslim (976) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, but He did not give me permission. And I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission.”
      Al-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
      This shows that it is not permitted to pray for forgiveness for the kuffaar.

    • @afser1533
      @afser1533 11 днів тому

      Why bother for the forgiveness of the prophet's mother if she's already in Jannah??

  • @knowledgeseeker1548
    @knowledgeseeker1548 11 днів тому +2

    FINALLY! A video with so many evedences that debunk the disgusting fatwa from saudi fatwa cult

  • @KNOWtheLEDGE7
    @KNOWtheLEDGE7 День тому

    People so thirsty for views and money they will go far enough to write these disguisting titles to bait the algorithm. Wow sick

  • @zafarparkar98
    @zafarparkar98 12 днів тому +1

    Abu Talib said he remained on the religion of Abdul Muttalib, and Abu Talib is in Hell, which would mean the same for Abdul Muttalib, how does that mean the Prophet PBUH's lineage is "pure" in the sense stated?

    • @mmmma89
      @mmmma89 12 днів тому +2

      AbdulMuttalib never received the message, unlike Abu Talib who witnessed and stated his rejection of the Prophet's message.
      Why are you affirming with certainty Abdulmuttalib is in Hell?

    • @Dont-worry1618
      @Dont-worry1618 12 днів тому

      @@mmmma89What about the Hadith were Abu Lahab going to the prophet. Then the Abu lahab asking where is so and so, so the prophet said with his people. Later on he found out all of the forefathers of Abu Lahab are in hell.
      Why???

    • @aamirh3567
      @aamirh3567 12 днів тому +1

      @@Dont-worry1618the Prophet sallallhu alahi wassallam himself stated he is from a pure lineage however that doesn’t mean all people in his family are pure or good people. In all families there are good and bad

    • @user-jj2sx1fv8m
      @user-jj2sx1fv8m 12 днів тому

      @zafarparkar98 ua-cam.com/video/ZEMLx4lhX_4/v-deo.htmlsi=WcBE0cXs_X9039wk

    • @theranger560
      @theranger560 12 днів тому

      ​@@aamirh3567why compare the Prophet's صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ family to other families?

  • @AdnanAli_313
    @AdnanAli_313 10 днів тому

    How u know she never recived the message lol and why was Abdul Mutallib a Muslim then and why would these Muslims in the religion of Ibrahim marry non belivers lol .

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  10 днів тому

      Maybe because she died about 35 years before the Revelation was revealed

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  10 днів тому

      And there is something called hanifs, which Abdul Muttalib was one of them

    • @AdnanAli_313
      @AdnanAli_313 10 днів тому

      @@SafinaSociety Lol how u know that you know he had a dream simular to Ibrahims A.S . And why would Hazrat Ali mother say by the god of Abraham make my pamhs of labour easy on me . And why would Abu Talib even say to Meccans that Muhammad will not deanounce hes message even if you put the sun in his right hand amd moon in his left thats not very athiest beahaviour bro

    • @AdnanAli_313
      @AdnanAli_313 10 днів тому

      @@SafinaSociety Maybe they were Abrahimc in faith like the rest of them John are you even a Muslim or some Christian imposter go back do some actual reading not some Saudi sponsorerd reading some actual reading.

  • @AA-xq3nt
    @AA-xq3nt 12 днів тому +2

    Adjust the title please.

  • @AshokGupta-oq6hs
    @AshokGupta-oq6hs 10 днів тому

    Sir, that is a good question.
    Also remember the messenger of arabic god was a non-muslim for 1st 40 years of his life an idol worshipper like his quresh tribe of mecca.

  • @GarethBryant15
    @GarethBryant15 14 годин тому

    1. This-Video is Weak-As-Hell. Muhammad (Peace be upon them) being denied to make ad-Du`a'/Prayer for their Mother is no different than Allah prohibiting the Muslims from giving al-Munafiqin/the Hypocrites Janazah-Rites.
    (Noble-Qur'an: Chpt.9, V.8)
    2. From 3:18 to 3:56
    Shadi al-Masri literally directly contradicted themselves. They admitted that the Father&Mother of Muhammad will be tested via the Day-Of-Standing, and then stated that "There's 0-Tests via the Hereafter."
    3. There's 0-Proof that one is "forbidden" to mention the Reality that the Father&Mother of Muhammad are in an-Nar/the Fire.
    4. When Allah states that "the Mushrikun are Najs/Filth", that's exclusively pertaining to Theological-Grounds. And, when Muhammad stated that their Ancestors were Pure, that's exclusively pertaining to al-Ikram/Nobility.
    5. This-Video is 100% predicated upon Untruth/Dishonesty via Personality-Worship.

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  11 годин тому

      All Malikis and Shafiis (Asharis) believe what was read in this book. Either they were people of the fatra or they were habeefs. The Prophet ﷺ does not praise pagans as being pure, and yoj cannot provide one proof that they worshipped idols.

  • @taklusyndrome
    @taklusyndrome 12 днів тому +2

    This title is disrespectful

  • @MPM_News
    @MPM_News 7 днів тому +1

    the fact that this would even be a question for consideration makes me want to leave this religion. Still muslim, just about. Just speaking the truth here.

  • @musfiqurkashem8614
    @musfiqurkashem8614 12 днів тому +1

    Even at the beginning of this video I knew this guy wasn't good. How do you know the Prophet's mother went to jannah or anyone who died that didn't get the message?

    • @obiwan9576
      @obiwan9576 12 днів тому

      He is dogmatic.

    • @theranger560
      @theranger560 12 днів тому

      The aqeedah of Ahlus sunnah wal jamaah is that the whole ancestry of the Prophet صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ is Muslim all the way to Prophet Adam Alayhi salam. There are many proofs to this. Alhamdulillah, we Ahlus sunnah always search for greatness of Prophet صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ in every matter. This is the mainstream belief about the Prophet's صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ parents and the grave of sayyidah Aminah R.A was preserved until the najdi came and started blaming everyone of shirk, demolished the shrines of all the sahaba R.A. May wrath of Allah be upon the najdi and those who support him.

    • @musfiqurkashem8614
      @musfiqurkashem8614 11 днів тому +1

      @@theranger560 okay grave worshipper

    • @SafinaSociety
      @SafinaSociety  11 днів тому

      This is the aqida of Ahl al-Sunna including many Hanabila based on Sura Isra 15

    • @obiwan9576
      @obiwan9576 11 днів тому

      @@theranger560 You guys are influenced by shia.

  • @user-ek8fu6mv4j
    @user-ek8fu6mv4j 11 днів тому

    RASULULLAAH SAWAS PARENTS AND IMAM ALIS PARENTS WHERE MONOTHEISTIC THEY BELIEVED IN ALLAAH AND ASSOCIATED NO ONE WITH ALLAAH LET THE DOGS BARK THEY WILL REGRET ON YAUM AL QIYAMAH

  • @greenapple6893
    @greenapple6893 12 днів тому +1

    Wrong interpretation of the hadith by you. Please look up at the ulama regarding about the hadith.

  • @falaknaz5967
    @falaknaz5967 9 днів тому

    Munkireen e hadith.. Hadith denier.... He is not fit to take knowledge from.. Sufism is corrupted

  • @WaqasAli-ct7ly
    @WaqasAli-ct7ly 12 днів тому +1

    so whats the point of dawah? its in peoples interest who haven't heard of islam to stay that way, because apparently they will enter jannah for sure that way.

    • @karimb972
      @karimb972 12 днів тому

      They will not have the same status as Muslims. There are levels in paradise.

    • @irshadazeez4764
      @irshadazeez4764 12 днів тому

      Believers are given guidance on how to influence their record with Allah, how to minimise suffering in this life and the afterlife. A non believer leaves it up to chance or had to figure all that stuff out on their own and make a best guess. A non believer is at more risk of incurring the wrath of Allah by mistake and negligence.

    • @obiwan9576
      @obiwan9576 12 днів тому

      Prophet of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: There are four (who will protest) to Allah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man who died during the Fatrah (the interval between the time of `Isa (Jesus, upon whom be peace) and the time of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything. The insane man will say, O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me. The very old man will say, O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything. The man who died during the Fatrah will say, O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me. He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them. The very old man will say, O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything. The man who died during the Fatrah will say, O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me. He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.
      According to another report, he said: “Whoever enters it, it will be cool and safe for him, and whoever does not enter it will be dragged to it.” (The Hadith was reported by Imam Ahmad and Ibn Hibban, and classed as authentic by Al-Albani, Sahih Al-Jami, 881)

  • @toolate6971
    @toolate6971 12 днів тому +3

    No no no. If you didn’t get the message and you didn’t associate partners with Allah then it is as he said, but, if the people associated partners with Allah, worshipped other things then they are Mushriks. The Arabs knew about Allah yet they still associated partners with Allah. As far as the Ayah he brings, it is a far stretch for this interpretation and thus it is better to go with the interpretation of Muhammad and his companions. He has taken the ayah out of context and I now see why he is dangerous.

    • @musfiqurkashem8614
      @musfiqurkashem8614 12 днів тому +1

      And he said it's not mutawattir but doesn't matter, it's saheeh then it's saheeh

    • @mohammadnurfiqri2831
      @mohammadnurfiqri2831 7 днів тому

      Nope. Even if you prayed to other than Allāh but you weren't sent a messenger, you are forgiven. That's the Ash`ari position. The Maturidis might say that he might be judged according to what his `aql could understand. So he might be punished for praying to other than Allāh, stealing, killing etc
      But don't deny a valid position that is found among the Ahlu'l Sunnah wa'l Jama`ah.