From Full To Absolute Dead! Ford F-150 Lightning 70-MPH Highway Range Test (Extended Range Platinum)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Kyle is in Northern Colorado with the Ford F-150 Lightning! In this video he takes it out for our usual loop-style 70-mph highway range test from full charge until it dies... and it literally dies at the end! Proper range testing here. Watch to see how far it goes on one charge...
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i rented a tesla model 3 twin motor for a 3 day weekend and had massive range anxiety. but i drove around all weekend and still had plenty of juice left. it made me realize.... i don't really go anywhere cause my life is boring!
Mine is too
Marketing slogan potential?
Yeah most people don’t need as much range as they think they do lol
Your life ain't boring till you become a trucker. All work and sleep. And very little sleep at that
lol
Could you do a test with an RV. I am specifically interested to see if you could do pass through charging at an RV Park.
My ideal situation is:
- Plugging the Lightning into the 50amp RV service poll
- Plugging the RV into the 30amp power supply in the bed of the lightning.
I'm curious to see if you can charge the Lightning's battery while sending the extra power to the RV for camping.
Please upvote if you would like to see this
Kyle can easily test this with his Revel
@@brandenflasch iob
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Can you flat tow the truck behind an rv?
@@chriskriaris4304 unlikely
I am curious how much weight it will pull for how far or long on 1 charge which manufacture is mum about
That whole live stream was such a journey…. Anthony was the MVP for sure
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Were you running the a/c ?
There are a ton of F150 Lightning videos out there but I was really interested in this one. Thanks for creating this video.
Thanks so much for doing this!! I live in Saskatchewan, need a vehicle to drive just about the end of the range of this one, and then back. in cold weather this thing would be an absolute disaster in remote locations, with few charging opporunities. good to see what happens when the juice is gone.
Long haul for EVs will remain elusive for years, sadly. Hybrids becoming universal would have been the wiser investment for the industry, though EVs have a HUGE simplicity advantage compared to hybrids, hybrids can get away with simpler, under-powered, engines if designed well - such as the Chevy Volt's cheap 100HP gas engine, the two electric motors drive the car and provide plenty of power and 300lbft of torque... no transmission and an 18kWh battery pack... a shame GM didn't bring that forward to more vehicles, would have been a wise move for trucks and SUVs.
Stick with burning dinosaurs bro. For now.
@@looncraz umm, GM made hybrid half-ton trucks and SUVs back in 2009. Barely anyone bought them. Sorry but the market didn't accept that theory.
@@ashton9699 It takes time for people to come around to new tech, 2009 was eons ago... there's still a LOT of resistance to EVs.
We could give every vehicle a 20kWh battery pack, 40~60 miles of EV range, and a small gas engine as a range extended far faster than we could make every vehicle an EV.
@@looncraz yeah, driven like a gas truck, with lights on for safety, your looking at 200 miles of range, new. Hook up a boat or RV, add passengers, and you may only go 120 miles...new. As the truck battery ages the renge will drop lower and lower anf lower.
A 5 ft bed with such a short range makes this truck worthless for anyone who attempts to use this truck to haul anything but air.
Ford lost over $3 Billion last year on it's EV program,. this 80K truck just doesn't do it's job.
How much does this cost? oh yeah, $30 for 50 kw, so the recharge will cost $80 to drive 250 miles. My F150 at 80 mpg avgs 360 milles using 17-18 gallons of reg gas. At $3.50 gallon thats about $65 to go 100 miles further. My truck is almost 20 years old with a Triton 5.4L engine, a modern 5.0 Cayote engine will get at least 5 mpg more.
That's all, I'm done, unless someone wants to sell me their 2 or 3 year old F-150 5.0 cheap.
This may be the quickest video turn around I've ever seen. Well done!
Seems to me you were going under the speed limit and under 70. My 2018 2.7L 4x4 can go 665 miles per tank, at well over the speed limit.
I’ve got a headache. I don’t think he took his a.d.d meds this morning 🤦🏼
You admit criminality? Do you pass in the slow lane too?
I guess this is all right about you gasoline trucks…as long as you have the $$$$ (that will surely increase) to spend feeding that truck.
@@Geezerelli Yes, I will smoothly and slowly pass on the right if people are intentionally and illegally obstructing the left lane.
@@cujet but if the vehicle is going the speed limit how can they safely move over to the right lane if cars are flying by in the slow lane at 80?
I want to see F150 Lightning and R1T go head to head on a 100% to 0% test at same time. That way we can see them compared in the same conditions.
And maybe bring a ProPower hybrid to rescue them when they die 😅
I feel like I've just driven cross country. I think you're stamina is amazing because you never ever run out of anything to say and it's the most boring thing I've seen maybe in my life. Geek speak
Driving starts at 15:02
Real MVP
Good man!!!
Results at 36:19
Truck dies 34:15
@@thisisntsergio1352 lmao, the car didn't even manage to drive for 20 minutes. 🤣😂. Yeah bro, EVs are the future 😂😂🤣
Alternative title: "excessive hazard light power usage leaves truck on the road"
It’s always interesting to hear the bottom basic work truck trim is the way to go. This is something I understood more when I found out with previous year models that as you add luxuries to the truck, the work truck ability decreases. For example the bed weight capacity is higher on the XLT models compared to the Lariat/Platinum.
honestly considering the range hit for towing, i see no reason to spend the massive premium for the extended range model. For now I would only get the EV truck if I just wanted a truck vs a car for interior space and to put something into the bed occasionally. Otherwise id stick to ICE if towing at all.
@@I_Love_Quokkas This Platinum did 4 hours at 70mph in 100 degree weather. Going slower, taking the XLT model or not running AC would extend that range. Towing is supposed to half that distance, so I could see towing a boat or small trailer as not being a big deal if you're not going less than 2 hours away. We've started talking about selling our ICE van and getting an EV, and this is one of the options I'm pitching. The issue I have is that all the EVs are in such demand right now and so many new models, that used EVs aren't coming down in value, they aren't a ton of used on the market, and new ones are hard to get ahold and often quite a bit above MSRP.
Lets be real. There is only one practical EV on the market and it is a sedan, the Lucid Air. 520 range and fast charging. That should be the benchmark. Sometimes I have to hotshot stuff. Can you imagine going from Atlanta to Houston in an EV?!? Days! I can send an F350 with a couple of guys and have it the next day.
Baloney E..V.s arent selling well
Perfekt weather and no up and downs... wait till you get to the mountains in freezing cold weather with max weight and towing.
Do this at -10 degree winter time.. see the range at full towing capacity 🤣
Or the hot summer when you have to run the AC
I was thinking more like -25, and I don't even care if it's with towing capacity. I just want to know if it's even viable! But then I suspect that many of us live in areas where the charging capacity does not even exist.
@@rba5567 this was done on a 100 degree day. Don't comment if you don't even know what's going on please.
@@yvonnewensloff6983 I'm becoming a semi-expert on EVs since my son's fiance just bought herself one. The infrastructure isn't there to go state to state and your battery capacity is severely limited in cold weather. Turn on the heat draws more current, now that its summer same applies for ac. A $50,000 vehicle that you can't run the heater, can't run the air conditioner and can't travel state to state is not worth it in my opinion. If you're going to limit it to just in City driving it's great and the pickup and torque is incredible and you can run the AC or heater but it really drains the battery. Surprisingly eVs have a lead acid battery in them. Was wondering why until someone pointed out that most electronics need that 12 volt system and so it's separate from the lithium ion batteries that make up the majority of the car. Just telling you what was told to me by an actual owner. I also was able to drive and be a passenger in it as well.
He’s right. Batteries really don’t do well in cold weather. Try minus 30 and you’ll see the results. I live off grid and batteries perform very poorly in the cold and use far more energy than running AC in a hot climate. Cold is the enemy of batteries, solar and wind because there’s usually no wind at minus 30.
Remember power is linear, drag is squared. 20% extra speed may need 50% extra power
Good point!
Don't come on here with actual facts. :)
44% extra power...if you drive the same length of time. However, you are going to go 20% further in the same time, so by distance (which is normally what we care about, unlike a pilot trying to build hours) you would use 20% more power to go the same distance.
Twice the speed requires eight times the power so 20% more speed requires over 70% more power.
@@lfsracer79 yes of course (I usually work with drag force rather than power eq's my apologies) . 44% is the increase in drag, but power is by the cube (72.8% more power) .. Again, since you are going 20% farther at the same time, the actual increase in energy to go the same distance is 44% as we don't really care about energy over time, but rather over distance.
Probably the fastest turn from end of range test to video uploaded in OoS history
I can't believe you were at a charging station for that long. Working class has places to be!
I think EVs are intended for people with Garages/Driveways who charge at home every night. My wife is planning to get an EV next and I'll keep my hybrid for the road trips!
EVs the good ones with high range are not affordable for the regular people, the idea of spending 30 minutes or longer at a charging station is ridiculous to me.
Again,people with means will charge at home with their exoress chargers,the other people will have to charge overnight
@@aboutface102 You don't have to charge every night though
I think if you fast charge from 10% to 90% it takes a lot less time?
@@bradkark Surely it does. Nobody can realistically sit around for that long.
cannot wait to wait. so funny to see vehicles at the gas pumps pull up and leave while he waits for his truck to charge. nice to see they have to use the wind to help them as well. too funny
I want to see a video of it on a 9 percent grade pulling a 8,000lb camper🤣 can we estimate about 40 miles ?
TFL did a test with a 8600 lb trailer on the Ike, 50 mile range.
I don't even think they need to be towing something. I want to see it in four wheel low traveling over a steep very rough road in winter. I can't even imagine trying to chain this ev up on all four and getting into a pasture covered with two feet of snow to feed the cattle. If all you do is drive 70 miles an hour on the highway you don't need a truck.
This isn't for the extreme towers. It's for the MILLIONS of Americans who have a light travel trailer or fishing boat, said less than 5klbs, who tow to a local camping/fishing site within 4 hours travel, and spend most of the time hauling air in the bed. Millions of people. If we can't get them into more reasonable vehicles, then I'm fine with this truck, which will greatly reduce CO2 emissions, pollution, and noise over a gas F150
That’s not representative of the average truck owners needs. Someone did a survey, something like 75% of the owners tow heavy things 0-1 times per year, and 70% never go off road
@russellkeeling4387 there's no 4 low. It's all wheel drive with a locking diff. Handles great off road in my experience
Need a Vespa to get around in doing useful errands while your electric truck is charging.
I saw another review of a guy towing an airstream with one of these and only was able to go 80 miles hahaha junk. This is a great truck for people that don't need a truck.
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🤯😤 80 miles!! Ooo I'd be pissed if I had bought this truck without doing research. WOW! That sucks!
Most people use the bed around their home and money earning areas, no need for more range.
If I could have an EV as another car I would.
@@Brian-jv8iy Isn't this thing $120,000.00? Mmmm.
Does it do well as a plow truck, you think?
Top it all off with the battery materials are far more finite than oil, and it's not saving the environment, it won't even make a dent. Why are people even considering these, what a joke!
I would say it probably just needs a software update rather than "junk". This is the sort of thing that occurs when you are on the "bleeding edge". It could be any number of things that caused this type of shortfall with range including actual failed parts. Its not really all that different than new broncos having engine trouble, or tesla bumpers falling off in the rain. When you buy brand new, very complicated things its almost a sure thing you run into issues. Personally I would never buy the first gen of any car, whether ICE or electric for this very reason.
Will you do a test running at what most people do on the highway of 75 to 77 mph?
The Colorado guys got 2 mi /kWhr at 75 mph.
260 miles (418kms) under pretty ideal conditions and no towing for a truck, that is NOT very impressive. That is fine for commuting and short trips. Extended trips with the family or work? Not a chance
Energy.gov statistics show that in 2017 95% of all vehicle trips were less than 30 miles. Ford's fleet stats say most vehicles travel around 75 miles a day. They aren't for everyone yet but they cover a great many drivers. Especially those who can charge at home.
Trucks are not aerodynamic, getting only about 2 miles per kw. Typically cars get 3, Mercedes has one in development that will get 6. So actually the range is impressive and useful for what people do 99% of the time. And you can always hit a fast charger and go farther.
Saw a video of the same vehicle pulling a 6000 lb RV and it made 86 miles with 9% charge remaining or less than 1 mile per percentage of charge.
sounds more like a sail boat when they constantly have to worry about the weather
Just a tip. If you are trying to let a vehicle go completely asleep and restart all the modules in a fresh boot you have to kill the hazards and open and close the driver door. Hazards on will keep the vehicle from going completely to sleep and you won't actually get a deep restart.
I believe (not 100% sure) the "Charge Power Limit" is the regeneration charging limit. So it's the max charging speed you can get while regen-ing with a combo of the motor and breaks.
What was the cost to recharge and how long did it take?
As a Texan who’s owned F-150s and a Mach E…it seems an issue is these tests are set at 70 mph. I just drove 270 miles yesterday and averaged closer to 80. Speed limit is 75. Oh, and ambient temps were 90+, real, 105 “feels like.”
Can you imagine how big these charging stations are going to have to be.
If a standard station of 10 gas pumps are busy and can fill up a car every 10 min..you can imagine how many chargers and how large of an area you would need to do the equivalent with electric chargers. You will need chargers, parking and the electric grid to support at least 40 electric vehicles to equal the same if everyone “goes green”. It doesn’t sound too green to me?
Not to mention the thousands of square miles of forests that need to be cleared for solar panels and bird grinders.
@@paulparks883 I think potential EV owners need to have realistic expectations. Shorter range, longer fuel up times. I can’t imagine owning an EV and not having the ability to charge at home on a regular daily basis. Neither can I imagine myself using it for long distance trips, would have to have a gas vehicle as secondary…unless I go on trips seldomly enough where renting a gas car 2-3x/year is no issue. I’d probably wanna go solar at home too, to avoid depending on the grid, as my local utility company has been jacking up rates, and has that TOU plan.
@@MikeJones-rk1un how about no forests yet but on the roof tops, box stores and their parking lots, even some farm lanes and pastures for horses and cows allot restate your not giving credit
@@cassysamel3914 That's a lot of carbon producing work for a very small savings. Especially considering your maintenance costs.
You can order an XLT extended range. You give up power tailgate ,leather seats, and pano roof. You gain the ICE F-150 center stack over the Mach-e one.
The XLT doesn't have blue cruise or phone as a key. And the extended range xlt is $20k more than the standard range XLT, you might as well go to the lariat if you are spending that sort of money.
@@bullbutter2931 yes, more than any f150 ever.... rookie numbers 🙄
Soooooo about 100 mi range when towing?
TSL got about 75 miles keeping in mind you typically do not want to go below 20% charge
How long did it take to charge back to 100% after the test is the big question.
110 takes like 24 hours I've heard
In the beginning, he charged it for 2.5hrs at $30ish buutttt 2.5hrs of charging time???????
On the ball Kyle , looks like the Lariat , or the XLT ,is the best value for money , but then again cool Ford provides a price range for every type of buyer , to optimise there revenue take . Gorgeous colour on this truck. So the answer at the end is 260 mile range for the long range battery while cruising at 70 mph , thats not too bad , alot of wind drag at 70. Would love to see some sort of innovative sidestep to access equipment from the side of the bed. Almost like the Rivian fold down step for changing boots.
I'm unfamiliar with that OBD app you demonstrated. But, seriously, you should purchase the full version so the ads are not displayed. Assuming there is a no-ads version. C'mon, you're a pro!
Wow. They charge $0.60/KWh when "parking" is included. So for your 250 miles of range, it costs $75. How does that compare to a regular gas F150? At 25 mpg highway, that would be 10 gallons, or about $50. Interesting.
60 cents/kwh is high, more typically around 40. And F-150's do not get 25 highway. Also most EV charging is done at home so the price of charging on the road is relatively inconsequential.
@@bearclaw5115
Who cares when the bigger problem that I saw in the video is that it said (on the dash) that it was going to take about 2.5 hours to get to 90% battery. That's a hard NO for me. It said about 6:38pm for 90% and his clock said 4:00pm.
Don't worry, we don't have the electric infrastructure to power an all EV fleet in America. Electricity rates will skyrocket as Biden continues killing coal and nuclear electric generation.
@@bearclaw5115 Price at home is going UP!
Not impressed!
This only needs to be a 9 minute video…
This guy talks in his sleep!!
I wouldn’t focus so much on a “perfect” test. You said it yourself “real world” I’d much rather see real world then some everything perfect type of test because a retail buyer is only going to be real world. Good video👍 side note I’d have the massaging seat on. It only uses 12v would most likely be so little energy used would not be measurable for the test. 😁
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The Ford F-150 Lightning Platinum is my dream truck! :)
Real world situation. Calling in to work that you're gonna be AT LEAST 2 hours late because you have to charge your vehicle because the power is still out from the storm last week.
Gee, love that sound of that Ford V8!
I love EVs. They help keep the highways clear when I’m driving by sitting at the charging stations and staying off the road! 👍🏼
Your test is at relatively high elevation (4,000- 6,000 ft) = reduced air drag. This can really affect mpg in tall vehicles - I have a low roof Sprinter and drove through southern Wyoming at about 80mph and still got 23mpg; if I go that fast at about 1,000 ft elevation my mpg drops to 19 or less. On the plus side, these range tests are ok but for most folks they rarely travel more than 100/day except on a once per year road trip so you adjust and do the 10-80% charge for a short time (you should take a break anyway) - works fine with my Chevy Bolt (about 4 mi/Kwh)
You got balls for running it down past 0% without anyone there to help.
Great review! Unfortunately its not enough range for our ranch's typical use. We can go fully loaded (without trailer) 480 miles on 27 Gallon tank with a 5.4L engine. I imagine that with a trailer in the Texas summer time it won't last too long as heat dispersion is minimal for the battery pack.
ALSO and EV in the WINTER would be just about worthless......... Just MHO
I'm sure they will offer more range in a future offering in a few years. Keep an eye out. Silverado will offer 400 mile range, in a couple years...
In the time you've spent so far I've gased up seven times
Best part of the review is the Harley's roaring down the highway! I'll stick to my internal combustion vehicles thank you
Wow , crazy running that low . Really appreciate your videos pushing these EV to the limit.
Impressive job, by Ford.
And even more impressive production #s for this month: 271 !!
So better buy one today before it's too late.
@@calmorton4619 Putting that in perspective, that is more than Tesla built model 3 in their first full quarter of production
@Kevin Smith No sir, that is a lie. The first quarter of production was Q3 2017, 260
I have enough anxiety with cell phone don’t need more in my life
No one talks about the fact that lithium ion batteries lose their capacity to fully charge over time. What is the plan to replace these batteries? Lithium is already at a scarce state.
It's so funny seeing all these EVs with huge batteries compared to my 14 kWh 2013 Nissan Leaf, especially because my Leaf doesn't shut off until 0.3 kWh! Very exciting to have all these wonderful mass-market EVs but I am a little nostalgic for when EVs were more niche. Cheers on going all the way until it shut off! I can't wait to start seeing Lightnings on the road!
24 kWh, not 14
@@darrellhay Correct! But with ~35% degradation I can only fit a maximum of ~14.2 kWh into the pack.
@@dylanlong6269 how can you stand using that thing? Get yourself a gen 2 leaf. Life is too short.
@@ben3989 It's not that bad but I appreciate it! It's my first car and I already had to stretch my budget to afford the $5,200. I get 65 miles of range on a full charge and have been doing 40-70 miles per day for work and misc recently. It's only an inconvenience every now and then and it's so so much better than a gas car. For some reason I really enjoy the fact that I have to be conscious of range and plan any trips outside of my city as well as the fact that a first gen 9 year old electric car can still fit my needs. Because I don't pay for electricity and I'll be passing it onto my sister soon (and getting a Bolt for college), my cost per mile is literally $0.00, which has been really nice as a high school student. It is funny that it takes ~40% just to get to the other side of town and it's a bit annoying to only have 120v charging. (If anyone has a spare Tesla Tap laying around, feel free to reach out!) Overall, it's been fantastic and it's gonna be hard to let it go. So great in fact, I was able to convince my teacher and a friend to each buy first gen Leafs as well!
@@dylanlong6269 Wow, time for a new EV, you have insane dedication. I think you'd be better off with a plug-in hybrid with that level of degradation. That thing would not be usable for me in the winter.
Would have been nice for a comparison of the "carbon footprint" of this vehicle versus a standard F150 six cylinder.
I would like to see how the evs are in 25 years or so, there are a lot of us with 20 year old plus f150s that havent needed any repairs except at most a fuel pump. Need to make the batteries easily replaceable, up dateable for us that really want to save the planet by not disposing of cars and trucks every 10 years or so. No reason a truck wont last 30 years and w/o any significant repairs if you only drive 10 k miles /year.
It's rare to get real hard days from manufacturers, only estimates.... Which trend to be conservative to gas engines. Still, payback time can be very quick, and CO2 parity can be less than 6 years, often times much less. Volvo has published a study on well to wheel on the XC40, and XC40 EV. But I am suspect that the oil side of the equation (extraction, refining), is dirtier than they day. I'd like to see Ford do their own study on well to wheel CO2 on their cars and trucks
250 miles?, now a 30 minute + wait time. My new Tahoe is still traveling down the road to 610 miles and no wait time going at 70 MPH.
My 3.5 ecoboost Lariat has 650 to 700 miles of range even in cold weather. So tell me again why I would want to pay 20K more for a lightning?
What was the retail cost of the recharge on that day?
What I’m curious because a home charge here wouldn’t be cheap at over 200kwh so 4 fillups would be around $200 bucks here in Michigan for me gas would be cheaper if it’s 4 dollars a gallon or less
@@Floreypottery We have DTE in Michigan and with the EV program we get 11¢ per kWh off-peak (11p-9a). That's $22 for 200kWh. F-150 4x4 is rated at 22mpg. At 260mi of range, and current fuel prices of $5/gal that would be $60 in gasoline. So roughly 1/3 the cost. Over a 12,000 mile year that's a savings of $1700. If fuel prices come back to $3/gal it's about $600 in savings. If you charge at peak, cut it in half. If you drive city, EVs do better than ICE so savings will go up.
More than saving $, it's going to be about where you want your energy to come from. Unlike gasoline, we produce the electricity here in our country and would be 100% independent vs the gasoline we purchase from foreign countries.
The faster you drive the faster your battery drains. Going 55 mph will increase your range dramatically instead of 70 mph.
My 2010 Volkswagen Jetta SportWagon TDI will do 600 miles to a tank ! City 43 mpg on 14.5 gallons of diesel!
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Thanks, for a great and informative video.
What was the Estimate recharge time and cost?
Exactly.....
I don’t have this exact truck but I’ve got an electric SUV and the numbers are around the same for most electric cars. It costs me somewhere around 20$ to public charge it, and it can get to 80% in under 25 min. Some newer ones can get to 80 in 14 min. Charging at home, which is where 80% of charging happens, costs somewhere around 13$ to go from empty to full and can be done overnight while you sleep
Two hours waiting on the charger. Brilliant future.
These aren't real trucks. They are family cars that just look like trucks. If you try to do truck stuff with them you get a wake-up call REAL fast.
Good video. May be I missed it but how long did the truck take to fully recharge after your rang test?
It takes 42 minutes to get to 80%. You could charge it overnight to get 100%
@@Dularr Not on that 50kw charger he was at. He's there for a while.
@@Dularr Thats not what he asked.
$30 to charge to full? How much to charge it at the house?
@@iabsoriw433 Costs me approx $15 for 1,000 miles charging at home.
35:35 Every electric car owner's life
The end of the video says it all.
Show me when it's a couple of years old. Every single battery power tool that I have used, the range drops off very quickly over time.
Can you do an extended range test of the F-150 Lightning, while plugged to 240v inverter generator. For example every time the F-150 battery reach 5% you should start the generator and keep driving while it charges at the same time.
Hope to run into someday at the Wellington, CO ChargePoint. We’ve stopped there a few times when low to make it home in WY. Love Out of Spec stuff!
Considering all of the conditions you included for the test like tire pressure, wind speed, and temperature, and disclosing the added unsprung weight of a laptop, tripod, and some snacks; HOWEVER, you did NOT mention whether you had taken a poop or if you were at MAX weight of 258.52 pounds? We must know this critical detail to determine the efficacy of your results! :(
Great review. Nice seeing the truck pushed to the limit. Keep up the great content.
Ford did pretty good with this one. It's a huge truck and still pretty good range.
WIth all of that waiting to get charged then running out of charge, for what you get, I'll never get one of these EVs. Thanks for convincing me!
i want to see what would happen if somebody could somehow disconnect the front motor and just run the rear and see what happens to range, theres gotta be a way in software or just go underneath and disconnect it. 2nd, put extra batteries in the back + solar panels and see what that would do. yeah i know adding solar panels wouldnt add that much range but for me 260 isnt even close to enough to consider buying one of these.
I was thinking leave the vehicle along and put a generator in the bed of it and see how far you could drive across the country and how much fuel you could go thru as a real world test.
@@j.d.martinez153 so at that point, its pretty much a hybrid. my idea is still all electric. pretty much what you would do is make a foldable bed cover, but instead of plastic its made out of solar panels.
Do a test in Canada (or some near equally frigid in winter state) in about January when it is the coldest! Like when it is -30 to -40C. What does overnight in -40 do to the battery? How much is the range affected when having to use the heat in the cabin? (simple pre-conditioning before driving for a few minutes simply does not work because within a couple minutes, the windshield is fogged up so you need constant heat simply to see) It would be interesting to see the range in extreme cold conditions. Never mind -10C ... I wanna see it in COLD!
You know what happens if you aren't within pushing distance of a charging station? You're getting towed. I'll wave as you are getting loaded up after my friend brought me a little red can.
Okay, so real world 250 mile range while carrying nothing. Not near good enough for me. I'll pass!
It’s a truck, not a long range passenger car lol
What was the cost of the charge at the charging station from 0 to 100% ?
tfl did a trip back charging 36% to 80% was $56
$56 is a lot
Wow!
@@kidamere2408 dam... I mean that's good when gas is $6/gal but if we manage to get the Alzheimer's patient out of the WH and gas prices get back to reasonable then that doesn't seem that great
@@WideAwakeHuman Oil is a commodity priced on world markets. The US President has little if any control over it. Talk to your buddy Vladimir about it.
Maybe you could do all tests with 'average' speed of 70 then monitor speed and time and do calculations to reach average speed. That way all will be compared to same.
how much did it cost to fully recharge and how long did it take?
Great review! The truck looks like an STX trim on the outside and its a Platinum.
Not bad with no payload, but what about the same test with either a payload or a trailer?
When you say without a hauling a trailer I know you want get nothing done. 😏 lol
All these reviews, not just Out of Spec Reviews, are done with hand picked brand new loaners. In the real world the F-150 is known as a "repair shop queen". Meaning it spends a lot of time at the dealership fixing problems. One owner I know said his F-150 spent the first 3 months of ownership in the dealership fixing problems. Most of that wait was for replacement parts. He has only had it for 4 months now. But the absolute king of repair shop queens is the Cadillac Lyric. A friend of mine bought one of those and brought it back to the dealership the next day with a list of over 30 problems to fix. Some were minor like the audio system crashing and major like the DC charging being incredibly slow. They could not repair anything because none of their mechanics were certified to work on the Lyric. These are the kind of things you don't hear about in these reviews, but they would be a major issue if you were trying to make a purchase decision.
What about the mileage when it is loaded with stuff or doing pulling? How much the mileage get shrank by the load?
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Looking forward to the base F150 Lightning range test Great informative video👍
I see the future cars out of battery sitting on the side of the road everywhere.
If there is a gas range extender mounted on the bed like a Lego. It would be nice to use gas in a pinch
This was frustrating and fun to watch.
Would a camper shell improve range Or just be a weight penalty?
Great test! Thanks for the info. I will say you won't have that much range in 30 degree weather. At 39 degrees, similar speeds, the battery needs to maintain heat while moving and that ends up being about 8-10% of power.
Nothing says "Manly " like the warm rumble of a V8 under the hood.
The price tag on the extended range is just as ridiculous as the range it comes with. 🙄
Can't wait until they do something for more range and quicker charging..
Five hours to recharge from a dead battery versus five minutes to gas up with an efficient gas powered vehicle. Better off going with hydrogen the only thing it puts out is water.
have you calculated the price per mile to drive this compared to a gas version that's similarly equipped? for people considering buying one, is the price jump to the electric powertrain justifiable?
I did a small calculation at home, just from this video and the information from it. You can do that too. Essentially, he used 125 kwh of energy, cost= 30.5 $ to fill up the car from a commercial charger. So, 30.5 $/ 125 kwh is about 0.244 $/kwh. Then, he also got the miles, about 260 miles in total, so, in highway, that would be 30.5 $/260 miles = 0.117 $/miles. Now, this rate changes a lot depending on where you charge. Where I live, peak rate during the day is 0.1465 $/kwh, and I guess night or off peak rate is 0.0927 $/kwh. So, charging at home can easily go half or a third of charging vs commercials. Then compared to gas vehicles, right now, writing average gas price in the US in google gives you about 5 $/gallon, and the economy on a f150 3.3-liter Ti-VCT V6 4x2: 20 city/24 highway MPG, so, 260 miles/24 MPG = 10.83 gallons, multiplied by 5 $/gallon = 54.16 $ or 54.16 $ / 260 miles = 0.21 $/miles on a F-150 gasoline car. So, comparing them all, that would be 0.21 $/miles gas F150 vs 0.117 $/miles commercially charged vs 0.07 $/miles charged at home during peak hours vs 0.044 $/miles charged at home during off peak hours. And of course, doing calculations is more complex if you do city, but, electric vehicles do even better in cities and gasoline cars do their worst in cities... so, still better for electric cars.
More dollars than sense.....I wanted to like it and buy one but I drive too much for this to be viable for my use. Thanks for test.
awesome road test
What if truck is dead and on charger as the wife cry’s out that the baby is coming out?
Did you say at the end that it took 4.5 hrs to recharge the truck back up???
Which part of most people don't want these electronic vehicles don't they get ?!
Nuts. Chevy please make a plug in hybrid based on your 3.0 diesel. Give me a 75 mile battery only range and a mode where the battery works to increase mileage of the diesel.
Here is what will happen. (1) 90% of the time, I’ll use zero Diesel. But when I need long range the diesel will give the hybrid an average mileage probably between 32-37 mpg.
Let’s see this test again in the winter time. 😂