The Controversy Surrounding the "Male Mona Lisa"

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  • Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
  • Taken from JRE #1648 w/Reggie Watts:
    open.spotify.com/episode/4Ct5...

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  • @ranranpoopants
    @ranranpoopants 3 роки тому +3087

    I’m calling it now. The Bro-na Lisa.

  • @GingerPeacenik
    @GingerPeacenik 3 роки тому +731

    To be fair, Da Vinci painted over his own paintings, often over the course of decades. He rarely considered anything “ finished”.

    • @tateroberts8113
      @tateroberts8113 3 роки тому +52

      He also had his pupils paint most of his paintings.... most of da Vinci art was not done by his hand

    • @chaningdodson4245
      @chaningdodson4245 3 роки тому +26

      He was also extremely lazy. Thats why

    • @garyleewebb
      @garyleewebb 3 роки тому +57

      @@chaningdodson4245 Painting really didn't psy the bills. At the time, someone working with their hands was considered a craftsman, like a bricklayer., carpenter, etc. Therefore, few signed their work.. But some could see Leonardo was special, adored by kings.
      Leonsrdo sought commissions to pay the bills, but the real money was in designing machines of war.
      People mistake laziness for overactive mind, Leonardo had too many thoughts and research to do than spend it in front of a canvas/block/wall. The Last Supper, for example, has an anecdotal account. Leonardo comes riding into the workplace in a world wind, climbs the scaffolding, makes a mark, then immediately leaves, not to return for weeks.
      Also, Leonardo painted with his hands, so experts have his fingerprints. A student painting at his workshop might have the master Leonardo visit the work in progress, and add a touch (correction) with his own hands, so technically it becomes a collaboration and therefore a Leonardo work of art.
      Restorers today don't paint over originals. Restorers of the past may have, but only if there were damages. What covers the painting is centuries of grime, soot, mold,etc. Plus the original varnish. Varnish was usually applied as a protective layer on paintings, but UV radiation discolors it over the years.
      Salvador Mundi was a popular motif, and many artists and art studios took a stab at it. There is a written record that Leonardo did one, and perhaps a second. Also that his favorite pupil did a copy of Leonardo's while he had access to it.
      Misattribution s a reason works of art are "discovered"centuries later. The were pined to another artist by mistake.

    • @popcornisfromcorn
      @popcornisfromcorn 3 роки тому +5

      good canvas was expensive back in the day

    • @digitalgods5568
      @digitalgods5568 3 роки тому +8

      @@popcornisfromcorn : Yes. I wrote earlier "Artists often paint over their own works for a lot of reasons, and the art term for this is 'pentimento' which translates to repentance in Italian. Someone starts a painting and says ah shit, let me start over and to save time or money uses the same canvas. It doesn't mean that someone else painted over it...anyway, happens all the time."

  • @luluschannel9862
    @luluschannel9862 2 роки тому +93

    Joe should go down rabbit holes once a week cause it never fails to be entertaining

    • @dakotalowe1194
      @dakotalowe1194 Рік тому

      I'm in favor of that idea! I love listening to people go down these proverbial "rabbit holes"! 👌

  • @JoeDurobot
    @JoeDurobot 3 роки тому +119

    *Who misses the full shows on UA-cam?*

    • @durkadurka5044
      @durkadurka5044 2 роки тому +1

      You can still find quite a few full episodes

    • @_RealG0dFather
      @_RealG0dFather 2 роки тому

      I miss em on UA-cam as well, just as easy to watch em free on Spotify

    • @stillwelltjz6798
      @stillwelltjz6798 2 роки тому

      Half of the shows he does now would be removed for "disinfo"

    • @mp51998
      @mp51998 2 роки тому

      Full shows free on Spotify. Just sign up. No subscription fee

  • @jopo7996
    @jopo7996 3 роки тому +854

    Why would anyone pay 4.5 Joe Rogan Spotify contracts for a painting?

    • @warlauk7249
      @warlauk7249 3 роки тому +49

      For 1.0 tax writeoff(s)

    • @fredk6992
      @fredk6992 3 роки тому +80

      @@warlauk7249 dude is the Crown Prince he does not give a fuck about tax write offs.

    • @warlauk7249
      @warlauk7249 3 роки тому +16

      @@fredk6992 touché

    • @thomassingleton2104
      @thomassingleton2104 3 роки тому +5

      Hahahaha

    • @lloydymk2013
      @lloydymk2013 3 роки тому +28

      Paint by day, joe rogan podcast all night, all day!

  • @MindfulAttraction
    @MindfulAttraction 3 роки тому +2952

    Joe Rogan studio looks like a steakhouse. He should have a steakhouse called, the Joe rogan's steakhouse

    • @whiteroseproject7207
      @whiteroseproject7207 3 роки тому +243

      Elkhouse

    • @brandonjones5801
      @brandonjones5801 3 роки тому +132

      JREATS

    • @mmatrainee
      @mmatrainee 3 роки тому +82

      Quickest way to go broke in Texas, open a steakhouse.

    • @__Gw
      @__Gw 3 роки тому +14

      Pretty sure he has game meat there too so technically it is a steakhouse

    • @Zatvornik
      @Zatvornik 3 роки тому +13

      Do not be ridiculous! It will be called JRE and will serve exclusively wild game meat!

  • @mrdanforth3744
    @mrdanforth3744 3 роки тому +103

    When these old masters were originally painted, the paint was flat and dull until they were varnished. That was the last step in the process. The varnish made the colors pop and also protected the painting.
    Over time the varnish would darken and get covered with smoke and dust until the painting could hardly be seen. Then it would be time to carefully clean off the old varnish, touch up any worn or damaged areas and revarnish. For a 500 year old picture this may have been done 3 or 4 times, maybe more. The painting may have suffered more or less damage depending on how it was stored and displayed and how skillful the restorations were over the years. This one was in bad condition and required a lot of careful work.

    • @nelsonx5326
      @nelsonx5326 2 роки тому +3

      Varnish kind of harmonizes the surface. The different colors were made from different substances, and would reflect the light differently because of texture of the substances. It's works a little like this...
      Imagine a clear jar filled with broken clear glass. The various facets of the broken glass scatter the light it reflects. In the jar the broken glass looks white. Pour water into the jar of broken glass and it becomes clear because the light is no longer reflected as scattered.

  • @ruste9223
    @ruste9223 3 роки тому +48

    It's crazy how this channel has turned into JRE Clips

  • @duster166
    @duster166 3 роки тому +860

    im waiting for uncle joey to show up and be like "joe rogan you gotta turn that sign off behind you dog...im too high and that shits burnin into my eyeballs"

    • @gregbirch6361
      @gregbirch6361 3 роки тому +80

      "Eyebawls"

    • @mahreality
      @mahreality 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/2KK61dWbVFU/v-deo.html

    • @hombre2581
      @hombre2581 3 роки тому +75

      When you’ve been listening to Joey Diaz for so long that he’s now the voice of reason in your brain 😂😂

    • @emilio2647
      @emilio2647 3 роки тому +1

      @@hombre2581 is Joey Diaz even in Texas?

    • @hombre2581
      @hombre2581 3 роки тому +21

      @dick dickerson you really think that spotify can dictate who can be on Joe’s podcast ? Joey Diaz said it himself on his own podcast that joe wanted him on when he moved to Texas. He’s most likely gonna be on when he’s out promoting the Sopranos movie.

  • @jaesingh9408
    @jaesingh9408 3 роки тому +324

    The fact that a painting that might not be Leonardo’s work went for 100’s of millions of dollars just proves that he’s the goat

    • @Joe_baba
      @Joe_baba 3 роки тому +121

      It shows that the art business is full of shit

    • @jarodrochell1310
      @jarodrochell1310 3 роки тому +39

      Yeah he was great in the titanic

    • @warlauk7249
      @warlauk7249 3 роки тому +17

      @@Joe_baba A red streak of paint on a white canvas will sell for 20 million as a tax writeoff but people will just say you just don't understand art maaaannn

    • @ryanedwards4512
      @ryanedwards4512 3 роки тому +1

      Better than Tesla? Probably
      I wish I knew more about him.

    • @saaw8344
      @saaw8344 3 роки тому +8

      @@warlauk7249 the people who buy art are mostly buying it for investment. A painting worth 2 million today will be worth 10 million in 10 years. It’s not about the art when it comes to the purchase of it. That’s what people don’t understand

  • @TIPPYtoeup
    @TIPPYtoeup 3 роки тому +87

    I love these kinds of conversations. Joes doing a good job at finding interesting content like this. 👍
    Appreciate the insight guys!

    • @jamesjameson4566
      @jamesjameson4566 2 роки тому +1

      He's monologuing, and rightly so, his guest is not bright

  • @Theyungcity23
    @Theyungcity23 3 роки тому +124

    I remember when Joe couldn’t even center his headphones and now look at him.

    • @elij8029
      @elij8029 3 роки тому +1

      😂

    • @Crackhouts
      @Crackhouts 3 роки тому +7

      Our lil' boy's all growed up!
      Or should I say .... Joe "our lil' boy's all growed up" Rogan

    • @clementine2234
      @clementine2234 3 роки тому +2

      @@Crackhouts "growed" up lol wtf

    • @cool_buster
      @cool_buster 3 роки тому

      HAHAHAHAHAHAH I remember this

  • @marklechman2225
    @marklechman2225 3 роки тому +124

    Dig the new background. Much better.

    • @nonyabidness6492
      @nonyabidness6492 3 роки тому +1

      He said was doing it but crybabys wouldn't stop crying about it

    • @candacex5430
      @candacex5430 3 роки тому +2

      ua-cam.com/video/2KK61dWbVFU/v-deo.html

    • @gsabella4
      @gsabella4 3 роки тому

      100%. Although i loved the "red pill" tribute.

    • @yourpants194
      @yourpants194 3 роки тому +4

      Reminds me of a Texas road house

    • @tumpnewmedia5417
      @tumpnewmedia5417 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/yxbLFO0OhG8/v-deo.html

  • @garysmith3173
    @garysmith3173 3 роки тому +11

    I had an interesting conversation with a top painting conservator. I asked her when an extensive restoration becomes a new picture? She whispered back to me ‘That’s the million dollar question all major galleries and museums are scared to ask themselves. Some old master paintings are so heavily restored are they now considered original?’

  • @mattchart9808
    @mattchart9808 3 роки тому +16

    I was yacht crew for a few years. Working on boats 70-100m. Most boats of that size have paintings on board and they are always behind climate control bullet proof glass/cases. Also most boats of that size also have 2-4 PMC's on board. (ex special forces). One boat I worked on had 200m+ worth of paintings on board.

    • @lillylee2410
      @lillylee2410 2 роки тому +3

      No pressure captain. But if you hit a storm & sink….. your effffed

  • @briznazty
    @briznazty Рік тому

    Joe you have the most interesting video podcast that's out! I always come away learning something new. You always try to find the facts about every topic you discuss and you are genuine. I applaud you for having one of the most knowledgeable video cast in the game 💯🙏🏾

  • @praaneshs2066
    @praaneshs2066 3 роки тому +97

    The last line Rogan said was told to me by my mother when I was a child, but she used a different example. She would always warn me not cheat in my tests. She once said: "If you put so much effort in successfully cheating, you'd rather put the same effort in actually studying for your test and eliminate the chance for being caught."

  • @amedeomodigliani4389
    @amedeomodigliani4389 3 роки тому +200

    Joe Rogan: “What’s his name, MBS, what’s the full name?”
    Reggie Watts: “Probably Brian Saunders”

  • @persephone2706
    @persephone2706 3 роки тому +13

    Honestly this is how all major paintings from history are. They have been repainted, small details, large details, over the centuries by so many differently people. And the person "restoring" it is honestly just doing the same thing. With the technology we have, x rays, we can see through the painting and like Joe said, see the layers. But the restoration isn't just wiping off recent layers. That's not usually possible for the entire painting. So people do what others have for centuries... They repaint over it, but usually with the original in mind, and try to as closely as possible match the latest layer to that.

  • @MrFreeGman
    @MrFreeGman 3 роки тому +203

    If no one is able to even tell the difference between a genuine da Vinci painting and some random nobody's, not even the experts, then why are his paintings so valuable in the first place? The whole art industry is nothing but money laundering.

    • @tateroberts8113
      @tateroberts8113 3 роки тому +10

      You can find out its authenticity by dating the materials used..

    • @jake.porter
      @jake.porter 3 роки тому +47

      it really is just a money laundering front for the elites. it’s wild

    • @rubytuesday247
      @rubytuesday247 3 роки тому +14

      Lol because they weren't random nobodies but his apprentices at his studio!

    • @monolal8807
      @monolal8807 3 роки тому +1

      nice to hear from you

    • @MrKinghuman
      @MrKinghuman 3 роки тому +13

      It's how the rich save money on taxes and make shady deals

  • @edreedson
    @edreedson 3 роки тому +139

    RIP Chris Cornell. Legend

    • @Jimmy2shits
      @Jimmy2shits 3 роки тому +4

      I am fortunate enough to have seen Soundgarden 2 weeks before.

    • @tinypablo4920
      @tinypablo4920 3 роки тому +15

      HE DIDN'T COMMIT SUICIDE ..THEY KILLED HIM

    • @mahreality
      @mahreality 3 роки тому +1

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      @mahreality 3 роки тому

      👆

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      @mahreality 3 роки тому

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  • @jacobfield4848
    @jacobfield4848 3 роки тому +43

    Money laundering, not a Da Vinci.

    • @TR-lt4xc
      @TR-lt4xc 3 роки тому +1

      For real.

    • @DerekMoore82
      @DerekMoore82 3 роки тому +3

      Or the Saudi guy needed to buy some Russian weapons but that was a lot of money to move without someone noticing so the receipt is for the painting he bought from the Russian Oligarch and now "Oh noo.. this nuclear missile - I mean PAINTING that I bought for half a billion, it might not be authentic? Darn. Oh well.."

    • @jacobfield4848
      @jacobfield4848 3 роки тому +1

      @@DerekMoore82 Highly possible.

    • @tbngamer2352
      @tbngamer2352 3 роки тому

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    • @monolal8807
      @monolal8807 3 роки тому

      nice to hear from you

  • @firearmsking
    @firearmsking 3 роки тому +58

    That painting
    Is called the “Salvatore Mundi”, Savior of the World and is a depiction of Jesus Christ.

    • @BombaY4one6
      @BombaY4one6 3 роки тому +4

      Lol that's what I though too

    • @xxtoxii9615
      @xxtoxii9615 3 роки тому +1

      ahh so mona lisa is girl jesus. gotit

    • @yasirakram2751
      @yasirakram2751 3 роки тому +7

      But the only problem is jesus was a coloured man

    • @kyledieterich5020
      @kyledieterich5020 3 роки тому +6

      @@yasirakram2751 And your point is what? This depiction is similar to DVs last supper work. There's no question what the subject matter is. Jesus' eye color and skin tone isn't really relevant here.

    • @yasirakram2751
      @yasirakram2751 3 роки тому +2

      @@kyledieterich5020 why paint him white when he was not

  • @laptv2144
    @laptv2144 3 роки тому +28

    He really said “male-a-Lisa” and missed the opportunity to say “man-a-Lisa”. What a shame

  • @LegitKiller4Life
    @LegitKiller4Life 3 роки тому +17

    What if this is all a scam? A group of people make a painting to resemble Leo's work and have it be the male version of probably the most famous painting ever because that'll obviously get attention. Sell it for 1,175 because that's good easy money for a painting scam. The painting gets lost throughout time with its many owners, and now it got to a place in time where its surrounded by people who think it's real...word gets around now the masses believe it's real. We all know the art industry is shady af.

    • @edrichlouw1790
      @edrichlouw1790 2 роки тому +4

      Or ot could just be money laundering for weapons or drugs? Same senario, different motive.

  • @attackscorpion5323
    @attackscorpion5323 3 роки тому +64

    I’m in a similar situation. I have an old fishing boat with some classic playboys stored in the bathroom.

  • @joshuabolin4440
    @joshuabolin4440 3 роки тому +3

    “Bryan Sonders”😂😂😂 I had just taken a fat rip. That killed me😂😂😂

  • @SweetSpot909
    @SweetSpot909 3 роки тому +19

    Rogan turning to Jamie like ... why don't you know the details of a renaissance painting?!?!?!?! Jamie is like I just saw it in the daily mail.

  • @resident_alien595
    @resident_alien595 3 роки тому +65

    Love the Soundgarden T shirt. SG for life, man.

    • @edreedson
      @edreedson 3 роки тому +6

      RIP Chris Cornell. One of my fave singers all time.

    • @jaysaviod9581
      @jaysaviod9581 3 роки тому

      A Hindu Pandu listening to Soundgarden?? 😂😂

    • @grindcoreninja6527
      @grindcoreninja6527 3 роки тому +1

      Bad Motor Finger!

    • @ashleyannbowie
      @ashleyannbowie 3 роки тому +7

      @@jaysaviod9581 you are a very sad, sad person

    • @Rand_al_Thor372
      @Rand_al_Thor372 3 роки тому +4

      @xannyphantom you misspelled "murdered."

  • @johnmorrison8618
    @johnmorrison8618 3 роки тому +27

    Someone needs to tell Joe that art restoration is a huge thing.

  • @maryannec55
    @maryannec55 3 роки тому

    I love rabbit holes Joe, I learn so much more than I would have to begin with :)

  • @Garage.Philosophy
    @Garage.Philosophy 3 роки тому +85

    When joe is the smartest guy in the room we have a problem

    • @lobosolo2884
      @lobosolo2884 3 роки тому +4

      You gotta watch some Reggie Watts videos. Dude’s brain is connected to some intergalactic stimuli. This format is not displaying his strengths.

    • @Garage.Philosophy
      @Garage.Philosophy 3 роки тому +6

      @@lobosolo2884 I literally did just that and saw a video of this fat guy dressed like a homeless person dancing around and making weird noises into a microphone calling it “music” . He’s trash.

    • @Calilou52
      @Calilou52 3 роки тому +4

      @@Garage.Philosophy just because you cant comprehend the fundamentals of music doesnt make it trash. Go listen to the Eagles or something clown lmao

    • @Garage.Philosophy
      @Garage.Philosophy 3 роки тому

      @@Calilou52 okay mate I probably understand more about music then you do but whatever helps you sleep at night

    • @susanwojcicki5714
      @susanwojcicki5714 2 роки тому

      @@Calilou52 chill fam

  • @yourma-uh5um
    @yourma-uh5um 3 роки тому +15

    We had a guy doing something similar in the UK years ago putting together old relics, art and sculptures in his garden shed and then selling them on as authentic pieces to collectors and museums and then laughing about it with his mates down the pub.

    • @iandixon7641
      @iandixon7641 3 роки тому

      That was an episode of minder as well.

    • @yourma-uh5um
      @yourma-uh5um 3 роки тому +1

      @@iandixon7641 That's probably where he got the idea from, I think he started around 1990.

  • @stevecarter2226
    @stevecarter2226 3 роки тому +11

    Who else is watching these short episodes wishing they could watch the whole thing but wont download the app?

    • @anakinsky3576
      @anakinsky3576 3 роки тому +3

      ur wishes can be answered if u just download it. takes 16 seconds maybe

    • @stevecarter2226
      @stevecarter2226 3 роки тому

      Naa

  • @tigervalley62
    @tigervalley62 3 роки тому +8

    Remember watching this when it was sold. Was a fascinating event to say the least. I was in Marseille back then and everyone was talking about it.

  • @lemonpaid
    @lemonpaid 3 роки тому +17

    in an alternate dimension roe jogan is speaking of the "female mona lisa "

  • @markjewell2821
    @markjewell2821 3 роки тому +15

    Happy Saturday from Sioux Falls South Dakota

  • @BigFattyNat
    @BigFattyNat 3 роки тому +14

    Rogan is so inspirational bc if he can half make it in comedy then i can make it in something too. Its not just that hes unfunny, a guest will say something funny, Joe just talks right through it.

    • @bw4500
      @bw4500 3 роки тому +5

      A guest will attempt to say anything, funny or otherwise, and Joe will steamroll through them nattering away his stream of consciousness

    • @tienming6174
      @tienming6174 3 роки тому +1

      I remember brian made a funny joke at joes and his guest's expense and joe just got mad. It was adam kokesh

    • @ET-gr1ez
      @ET-gr1ez 3 роки тому

      Did you see the one theo von interview where Joe kept making rude comments and acting irritated at theo? I know theo has been on a few times but in one of the interviews you could clearly tell he was annoying Joe pretty much the whole interview

    • @Beefwelliington
      @Beefwelliington 3 роки тому +1

      Good luck with your youtube gaming channel, I hope its successful

    • @sorryimsosad
      @sorryimsosad 2 роки тому

      He’s a more successful podcaster than comedian. Most of his specials are low budget, and small. Now that he’s a great podcaster his shows get more people bc he’s joe rogan. Just like how there are comedic actors who only draws a crowd bc they were a funny person on a show or movie.

  • @JoeMcKnz
    @JoeMcKnz 3 роки тому +12

    The title made me think this was some woke thing where we're now questioning the gender of Mona Lisa.

  • @johngerson7335
    @johngerson7335 3 роки тому +13

    Odds are that the painting was made by two of Da Vinci's assistants. Which still places it in "really expensive" territory, economically-speaking.

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      @annebryony1406 3 роки тому

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    • @pepinho89
      @pepinho89 3 роки тому

      That’s entirely possible. An analysis of the painting showed that the techniques used in the Salvatore Mundi are similar to the techniques used on the Mona Lisa. It could have been Da Vinci or someone whom he passed his techniques on to.

    • @johngerson7335
      @johngerson7335 3 роки тому

      @@pepinho89 If I remember correctly, I once read somewhere that Da Vinci's assistants were sometimes tasked with producing work in his style for clients who weren't as well-monied as some of his other patrons. It was a pretty common practice at the time. They also sometimes did "fill-in" work on paintings in which he'd produced the rendering of the main subject but didn't have time to do the broader border work.

    • @hammurabiofbabylon8035
      @hammurabiofbabylon8035 3 роки тому

      @@annebryony1406 go on...

    • @annebryony1406
      @annebryony1406 3 роки тому

      @@hammurabiofbabylon8035 Can we talk one on one via email or hangouts...you should know that chatting via the comment box is really stressful. Do you wish I send my email across to you so that talk ?

  • @falkhammermuller9342
    @falkhammermuller9342 3 роки тому +12

    Well Joe,
    when a painting is restored, nobody just paints over it. The restaurateur (in this case a lady named Dianne Modestini) uses a few steps to restore the original.
    One needs to know first, that most painters finish a painting with varnish. If the painting is than later painted over, you have already 3 layers. one color, one varnish and another layer of color.
    In the case of the Salvator Mundi (thats what the painting is called) had 4 layers. The first 2 were easy to remove, since they were relatively new.
    The 3rd layer was an old varnish, which can be removed using a certain chemical that doesn't affect the actual painting. Tecnically we'd have to say the painting had 5 layers since it was overpainted partially by DaVinci himself. The thumb was painted twice and changed in ankle. The brosche in the middle was moved further to the left.
    How ever, the restaurateur now only partially enhanced the existing colors. This happens with a magnifying glas and lot's of time. 6 years she took to finish this one. Now, when you look close at the painting, you'll see little cracklings. The original color had been breaking into a billion pieces when the oil had dryed out. Al these little pieces are treated individually. Thos keeping the look and appearance. But the colors are enhanced and brought to better light.
    After all a fresh warnish will be applied.
    Oh ans, I don't think there is any controversy. More than 100 experts in the field of DaVinci classification, restauration and analytica have agreed that it's the masters hand who has been painting this. The resamblance to the hair of St John the Baptist in every possible way. Shading, tone, tecnique, brush stroke, depth and so on. This is most likely an original.

    • @bodybuildingABC
      @bodybuildingABC 2 роки тому +1

      thank you for the information

    • @falkhammermuller9342
      @falkhammermuller9342 2 роки тому

      @@bodybuildingABC Recommendation for you: ua-cam.com/video/Mb8ZVUzSQeM/v-deo.html

  • @goncalodias6402
    @goncalodias6402 3 роки тому +16

    Why are people calling it "the male mona lisa". Its jesus. He is doing the "blessing" gesture whit his hand. The name of the painting is "salvator mundi" wich means the savior of the world

    • @Thleta
      @Thleta 3 роки тому +5

      For real. I have no idea when "male mona lisa" caught on, it if ever did. Seems like Joe is the only one calling it that.

    • @goncalodias6402
      @goncalodias6402 3 роки тому +1

      @@Thleta yah, and this painting has been know for a long time. And never as a male mona lisa

    • @dedpxl
      @dedpxl 3 роки тому

      @@Thleta he explains in the video why it's called that

    • @Massproduce201
      @Massproduce201 3 роки тому

      Jesus lol that’s cesare borgia

    • @goncalodias6402
      @goncalodias6402 3 роки тому

      @@Massproduce201 the pope?

  • @alexandermedia5402
    @alexandermedia5402 2 роки тому

    Did I just really see what I just saw... great content!!

  • @Scotty2Shotty
    @Scotty2Shotty 3 роки тому

    The dissident was so well done and absolutely fascinating I suggest anyone watch it!

  • @craigduncan4900
    @craigduncan4900 3 роки тому +32

    Just watched a video of Conor McGregor answering fan questions, he got asked if he’s ever going to go on the Joe Rogan podcast and said he’d love to!! MAKE IT HAPPEN JOE!!!

  • @jayber-bomb9118
    @jayber-bomb9118 3 роки тому +66

    Joe Rogan your uncle Vinny was smart. My father used to say basically the same thing to me all the time. "If I use the same amount of effort you do doing bad things, to do legitimate stuff, you would be unstoppable"... Well(as a recovering addict) I've been sober for 8 years now, my dad's been dead for three, and I'm doing very well for myself. Let's just leave it at that.

    • @PINWIII666
      @PINWIII666 3 роки тому +3

      this is joe rogan, im reading your comment

    • @Th3Hum4nEl3m3nt
      @Th3Hum4nEl3m3nt 3 роки тому +1

      @@PINWIII666 this is joe rogan, im reading your comment

    • @PINWIII666
      @PINWIII666 3 роки тому +2

      @@Th3Hum4nEl3m3nt this is Joe Rogan, I'm reading your comment

    • @Th3Hum4nEl3m3nt
      @Th3Hum4nEl3m3nt 3 роки тому

      @@PINWIII666 😯

    • @Th3Hum4nEl3m3nt
      @Th3Hum4nEl3m3nt 3 роки тому

      @Michael Fox holy shit Joe Rogan read my comment 😯

  • @tiktokgirl007
    @tiktokgirl007 3 роки тому +2

    I've been looking for a sound garden shirt

  • @TheAandWProductions
    @TheAandWProductions 3 роки тому +11

    In my opinion, DaVinci is the most talented and perhaps the smartest person to ever live. 450mil is crazy for a painting but I think his works are priceless

  • @DieselDave359
    @DieselDave359 3 роки тому +21

    😳 When you hear Fingers say "Holy Shit" in the background

  • @srirangdhawale5242
    @srirangdhawale5242 3 роки тому +12

    Someone needs to tell these guys about Baumgartner Restorations on UA-cam..

    • @EWKification
      @EWKification 3 роки тому

      In this case, the painting has been over-restored to the degree that it looks goofy: ua-cam.com/video/MYmAxXZBaGw/v-deo.html

  • @sun6moon9
    @sun6moon9 3 роки тому

    Ohhh my God!! Reggie!!! Where have you been?? Missed you

  • @anunnakimenagerie
    @anunnakimenagerie 3 роки тому +26

    Joe is a good artist. He showed some of his old art once on an old podcast. If he painted some paintings, they would probably sell for a lot of $

    • @aaruin
      @aaruin Рік тому

      You don’t understand how art works

  • @jakerh2623
    @jakerh2623 3 роки тому +68

    Bro if he just said “mano Lisa” it would’ve been so much funnier damn

    • @candacex5430
      @candacex5430 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/2KK61dWbVFU/v-deo.html

    • @ranranpoopants
      @ranranpoopants 3 роки тому +9

      The Brona Lisa

    • @jimmytimmy3680
      @jimmytimmy3680 3 роки тому +1

      He doesn't know the noun's "gender" of latin derived languages. And Yes, it would be funny.

    • @RafaelSilva-yg9oy
      @RafaelSilva-yg9oy 3 роки тому +1

      That's a good one

    • @tumpnewmedia5417
      @tumpnewmedia5417 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/yxbLFO0OhG8/v-deo.html

  • @kmuck8677
    @kmuck8677 3 роки тому +47

    "Probably Brian Saunders"
    Yet another hilarious joke that Joe doesn't even notice.

    • @212keith
      @212keith 3 роки тому +4

      It was pretty funny

    • @marklynch1305
      @marklynch1305 3 роки тому +2

      Joe doesn’t get a lot of things anymore

  • @elibreezy
    @elibreezy 3 роки тому

    😂😂this thumbnail & caption is funny as hell

  • @youlostthedebate
    @youlostthedebate 2 роки тому +1

    “Prolly Brian Saunders”. Dk why but I love this lol

  • @Crazyeyes388
    @Crazyeyes388 3 роки тому +4

    I’m digging the stoner tiki bar feel a lot more than the previous high tech background. I didn’t hate it like some but as a fan since the snow was coming down this feels more fitting.

    • @VincentGonzalezVeg
      @VincentGonzalezVeg 3 роки тому

      It looks like an old movie advertisement post on the outside - those things above the doorways

  • @ldvinci5786
    @ldvinci5786 3 роки тому +4

    Leonardo da Vinci once said “ art is never finished just forgotten” I might’ve chopped it 😂😂😂

  • @dazuk1969
    @dazuk1969 3 роки тому

    Salvator Mundi is painted on a walnut board with a huge knot in it which became a huge split in the board. DeVinci did use walnut boards but would never have picked one with a knot in it. It is most likely a studio piece where DeVinci did some areas and a student did the rest which was common practise.

  • @leonidasephialtes3877
    @leonidasephialtes3877 3 роки тому +1

    Seeing Reggie perform for the first time was more confusing and amazing
    then when I would encounter Aliens for the first time .

  • @tiino_6725
    @tiino_6725 3 роки тому +16

    I love that portrait , I once took a heroic dose of mushrooms and was looking thru art when I stumbled on this one, as I stared I turned and stared in the mirror and seen the that portrait withing myself, shifting from a Jesus like figure and then to a devil type figure. It was so crazy and beautiful to experience that.

    • @degdegaz9292
      @degdegaz9292 2 роки тому

      What is heroic to you sir

    • @XYKelseyyy
      @XYKelseyyy 2 роки тому

      U goin to hell bro

    • @DrSlick
      @DrSlick 2 роки тому +1

      Imagine what you would achieve if you stop wasting your life.

    • @jayp7936
      @jayp7936 Рік тому

      @@DrSlick imagine what you could achieve if you stopped being a judgmental loser 😉

  • @joeyhinojosa6003
    @joeyhinojosa6003 3 роки тому +5

    “He might be peeing on it” best quote in this whole video

  • @taylormays29
    @taylormays29 3 роки тому

    Love the Soundgarden shirt!

  • @Christopher50now
    @Christopher50now 3 роки тому

    I love your studio. Wow very nice. Very masculine. The colors are JRogans colors. Great studio.

  • @lesfin3265
    @lesfin3265 3 роки тому +3

    Yeah, Most likely painted in his artelier by his team. His painting technique was to paint in layers and lacquer each layer before the next.
    The other thing is the orb is not distorted. Davinci understood optics and intentionally didn’t paint it just to fuck with us

  • @sacramentallyill
    @sacramentallyill 3 роки тому +21

    Da Vinci's artwork are deeply encoded with truths about reality and the human body and mind's potential based on sacred geometry. "Know Thyself"

    • @cmkseven7
      @cmkseven7 3 роки тому +2

      So true!

    • @Telonious_Terp
      @Telonious_Terp 3 роки тому +3

      I, and few others in this world know this to be true. But because we are so few, and very far between, normally we find it's useless to speak about these things in public fora, as most people would be too ignorant or intellectually incompetent to understand. That is not to say that we understand, though some of us may, it is instead to say that we are at least aware of an underlying implication in Da Vinci's works (as well as Michaelangelo and a few others) that is not immediately obvious, but hidden, and to be discovered by those with the faculties to discover. That said, though I may disagree with our like inviting the greater public fora to insights not readily seen, it is refreshing to find a taller structure (such as yourself) here and there on the topography of awareness, where all else stands flat and ignorant.

    • @sleepinglion1192
      @sleepinglion1192 3 роки тому +2

      Geometric shapes are the foundation and basis of our physical reality. That’s is why. But they are usually found in rough representations. It’s uncommon to see perfectly symmetric geometric shapes.

  • @stea2494
    @stea2494 3 роки тому

    Joe, like your new stage, really, really cool sign

  • @thongchai75
    @thongchai75 3 роки тому

    New background infinitely better.

  • @donwilliamson7733
    @donwilliamson7733 3 роки тому +5

    Judging by the appalling lack of investigative journalism now, I’m guessing that Kashoggi uncovered something about the impending global pandemic and it’s obvious ulterior motives. Essentially, “he knew too much”

  • @kiers1970
    @kiers1970 3 роки тому +25

    I prefer this painting on Spotify
    .

  • @SelfPropelledDestiny
    @SelfPropelledDestiny 3 роки тому +1

    As another Vinny myself, I can tell you, always listen to Uncle Vinny, Joe!

  • @AliceInPantera
    @AliceInPantera 3 роки тому

    Reggie lives in that Soundgarden shirt lol I love it

  • @danielmullaney2069
    @danielmullaney2069 3 роки тому +13

    I miss having joe tell Jamie what to do and then being able to comment about it

    • @annebryony1406
      @annebryony1406 3 роки тому

      U seem like someone who is ambitious and goal oriented, and thought we could be good friends if you don’t mind.
      Let me properly introduce myself to you. My names are ( Esq. Anne Bryone.jnr) I’m a Probate Lawyer by profession and also work with (Keystone Law Group, P.C Law Firm here in Los Angeles.
      It’s my pleasure meeting you here.
      I sincerely want to seek for your support and cooperation about something important. Can I go on??

    • @danielmullaney2069
      @danielmullaney2069 3 роки тому +2

      We got adverts in the comment section

    • @annebryony1406
      @annebryony1406 3 роки тому

      @@danielmullaney2069 How do you mean?? I’m not talking about adverts. It’s way more than that. Can we discuss??

    • @danielmullaney2069
      @danielmullaney2069 3 роки тому

      @@annebryony1406 I think we've already started

    • @annebryony1406
      @annebryony1406 3 роки тому

      @@danielmullaney2069 Yeah I know. But you and I know that getting a good conversation via the comment section it’s really stressful and annoying. So it will be preferable if we get talking via email or hangouts. It’s better that way.

  • @unknownunknown7769
    @unknownunknown7769 3 роки тому +3

    Y’all gotta look up the back story to this painting it’s crazy. The globe in his hand doesn’t reflect light and there’s a whole story behind it

    • @codyleslie478
      @codyleslie478 2 роки тому

      Evil season 1 has this painting as a serious plot point.. really cool

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 2 роки тому

    I might buy that painting.

  • @HeyhitmeBAM
    @HeyhitmeBAM 2 роки тому +1

    “It’s probably Brian Saunders” lol

  • @LabRat10101
    @LabRat10101 3 роки тому +4

    His name is Bonesaw Salman. Get it right.

  • @Blank_Account
    @Blank_Account 3 роки тому +4

    Before I watched this vid I literally thought to myself, “damn this dude looks a lot like Kim Thayil”

  • @outqast
    @outqast 3 роки тому

    It is the same with "The Last Supper" ,
    DaVinci actually only painted 1 of the subjects in full,

  • @ryans6699
    @ryans6699 3 роки тому

    Love it when Joe brings on the Yes Men.

  • @arneybrittenham418
    @arneybrittenham418 2 роки тому +9

    The Mona Lisa is Leonardo Da Vinci when he was young. Also it's actually about 4 paintings each one is a mathematical code and all layers are part of the code. That's how freaking smart he was. By far no one comes close to how smart he was. Remember the artificial heart is his invention. Also the tank he wrote many books many was destroyed. When he was dying he was trying to finish writing a book. He had a favor to flight. It is said when he was child in the crib and bird landed on his face and that's where has passion or obsession with flight came from

    • @sexgod57able
      @sexgod57able 2 роки тому

      He lived through some kind of natural disaster and was terrified of floods. So he was obsessed with being able to fly away.

  • @VP0w3r
    @VP0w3r 3 роки тому +10

    7:33 Jamie definitely got spinning back kicked at the end on this one

  • @Fol2ey
    @Fol2ey 3 роки тому +2

    Pretty sure the artist he's on about at the end is a vice documentary. Really amazing art.

    • @Pepe-rr3if
      @Pepe-rr3if 3 роки тому

      I think he is speaking of Wolfgang Beltracchi. That guy painted amazing stuff. one of his fake paintings made it on the cover of christies. an auction house for the most expensive paintings. He has his own doc on netflix so i hoped jamie would talk about it.

  • @slowjamcdub
    @slowjamcdub 3 роки тому

    That new studio is much better!!!!! Joe on the come back!!!!💪🏻💪🏻

  • @rey82rey82
    @rey82rey82 3 роки тому +4

    Someone has a case of the Mundis

    • @NathanaelGreer
      @NathanaelGreer 3 роки тому +1

      This^^ is why comments exist 👌🏻

  • @Garrus1995
    @Garrus1995 3 роки тому +35

    Good God, there is serious money to be made in art. I’m considering trying to become a world-renowned art thief.

    • @dedpxl
      @dedpxl 3 роки тому +1

      I imagine they track the history of each painting, like you'd have to explain where it came from so stealing one wouldn't work.

    • @EverettBurger
      @EverettBurger 3 роки тому +2

      Or a world renowned artist.

    • @Garrus1995
      @Garrus1995 3 роки тому +1

      @@EverettBurger That could be my cover story. By day, I pain masterpieces. By night, I steal other people's masterpieces!

    • @Garrus1995
      @Garrus1995 3 роки тому +3

      @@dedpxl I'm sure there's a black market for this sort of thing.

    • @cesar-lf1jw
      @cesar-lf1jw 3 роки тому

      @@Garrus1995 look up on UA-cam "fake painting man vice interview" there is trust me

  • @Leaky-bunghole
    @Leaky-bunghole 3 роки тому

    still not listening to this on spotify

  • @dannooooooo
    @dannooooooo 2 роки тому

    to restore a painting they remove all layers to get to the original artists work, then they apply a clear layer to protect it, and then the restoration is done on the clear layer, which can be easily removed if it ever needs to be with a chemical that wont damage the original painting.

  • @NoSaIvation
    @NoSaIvation 3 роки тому +10

    This was a cool episode. Glad i got Spotify.

    • @SemajResarf
      @SemajResarf 3 роки тому +1

      Baaaaaa

    • @rhyscory3337
      @rhyscory3337 3 роки тому +2

      Do you work for Spotify?

    • @juliemariemcintyre
      @juliemariemcintyre 3 роки тому

      shill on

    • @vadenjackson9292
      @vadenjackson9292 3 роки тому

      funny

    • @NoSaIvation
      @NoSaIvation 3 роки тому +2

      @@rhyscory3337 I would never. But if I did I would 100% back the company since they provide easy access to millions of hit songs from your favorite artists streamed seamlessly any device as well as your favorite podcasts. This is provided at a low low price of $9.99/month.
      This comment was sponsored by Spotify.

  • @Knighfe
    @Knighfe 3 роки тому +18

    As someone who is studying art conservation, this conversation was melting my brain.

    • @znep2751
      @znep2751 3 роки тому +8

      I love a good conservation conversation.

    • @DamnitBobbeh2399
      @DamnitBobbeh2399 3 роки тому +11

      As someone who doesn't give a shit, I don't give a shit

    • @stoneyhaze9956
      @stoneyhaze9956 3 роки тому

      Why is melting your brain in what way? Good, bad?

    • @sr20ser.
      @sr20ser. 3 роки тому +5

      "As (insert whatever here)." The most pretentious way to start a conversation...

    • @Telonious_Terp
      @Telonious_Terp 3 роки тому

      Lol, why? Because you've never heard this before or because it's all incorrect?

  • @semvicious
    @semvicious 3 роки тому

    He’s talking about Wolfgang Beltracchi at the end

  • @cellardoor199991
    @cellardoor199991 3 роки тому

    Joe's studio is beautiful once again.

  • @NoName-cn3cp
    @NoName-cn3cp 3 роки тому +11

    "He might be peeing on it right now." Lol Joe says funny $hit sometimes.

    • @vinfishin2582
      @vinfishin2582 3 роки тому +1

      Wow. That professional comedian says funny things from time to time

    • @durkadurka5044
      @durkadurka5044 2 роки тому +1

      Comedian. He's a professional comedian. Jesus Christ

    • @NoName-cn3cp
      @NoName-cn3cp 2 роки тому

      @@durkadurka5044 he's a comedian that only white guys find funny lol so it's shocking to me

  • @jxrry6310
    @jxrry6310 3 роки тому +5

    YES!!!!!I THOUGHT HE DIDN'T UPLOAD NOTHING ON UA-cam ANYMORE.THANK GOD

  • @nickedwards4617
    @nickedwards4617 3 роки тому

    Wish the studio was the news radio set

  • @StorytellingHeadshots
    @StorytellingHeadshots Рік тому

    Incognito is a great documentary on this.

  • @Folse
    @Folse 3 роки тому +24

    The fact that I was alive in 2005, live New Orleans, and that thing was for sale for that cheap makes me angry at myself for missing it lol. Even tho I am not interested nor have ever been interested in owning pieces of art 😂

    • @eoin9909
      @eoin9909 3 роки тому +2

      I was In dublin when the carivagio was an unknown painting hung in an old home. I should have just offered them 200 quid😭

    • @Cutsman562
      @Cutsman562 3 роки тому +3

      You will never have this kind of opportunity if you don’t understand the value of owning art.

    • @Folse
      @Folse 3 роки тому +1

      @@Cutsman562 that was the irony in the comment...

    • @dirtydangler
      @dirtydangler 3 роки тому +1

      @@Cutsman562 people like you are the worst type of people lmao

    • @Folse
      @Folse 3 роки тому +3

      @@dirtydangler he’s living up to the stereotype for sure 😂

  • @genzcurmudgeon8037
    @genzcurmudgeon8037 3 роки тому +5

    I remember this painting from Leonardo de Vinci biography by Walter Issacson. Y’all gotta read his biographies if you haven’t yet. AmaZing

    • @sk8trryan1997
      @sk8trryan1997 3 роки тому

      I found that one kinda dull. Read Napoleon’s instead

    • @genzcurmudgeon8037
      @genzcurmudgeon8037 3 роки тому

      @@sk8trryan1997 Walter issacson did one of Napoleon??
      I think all of isaacs biographies are amazing, I’ve read Steve jobs, Franklin, and de Vinci, on Einstein right meow.
      The paintings and pictures in De Vinci were awesome.

    • @sk8trryan1997
      @sk8trryan1997 3 роки тому

      @@genzcurmudgeon8037 Andrew Roberts bio of napoleon I'd really recommend if you like biographies. a must read. and his one of Churchill is equally good. I read isaacs steve jobs and like it but yeah i just wasn't as interested in the da vinci one. maybe i need to go back to it.

    • @genzcurmudgeon8037
      @genzcurmudgeon8037 3 роки тому

      @@sk8trryan1997 The Steve jobs was quite interesting because it was within our lifetime. More relatable for sure especially since we can watch videos of the guy. Where as we don’t even have a photograph of Da Vinci. Either way he’s a great writer and I’ve enjoyed his work.

    • @genzcurmudgeon8037
      @genzcurmudgeon8037 3 роки тому

      @@sk8trryan1997 and yes thanks I may check out that biography of Napoleon.

  • @tequilayoung3943
    @tequilayoung3943 3 роки тому

    I like this new setup

  • @mikemshow
    @mikemshow 3 роки тому

    phenomenal podcast