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  • The Contrarians Presents:POWER POP in Three Songs. John Grant and Steve Schnee along with a Patreon panel as we discuss POWER POP
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 117

  • @vinyltransmission
    @vinyltransmission 3 місяці тому +3

    The Shivvers - No Substitute
    The Nerves - Hanging on the Telephone
    The Romantics - Tell It to Carrie

  • @murreygellmann7708
    @murreygellmann7708 3 місяці тому +3

    1. Cheap Trick- Surrender
    2. September Gurls- Big Star
    3. Shivvers- Please Stand By

  • @rumblehat4357
    @rumblehat4357 3 місяці тому +5

    Power pop needs to have the “slightly dangerous” guitars otherwise it’s just pop.

  • @MusicandCatLover-vc6jb
    @MusicandCatLover-vc6jb 3 місяці тому

    These songs came to mind:
    - KISS "Hard luck woman"
    - The Knack "Good girls don't"
    - Joe Jackson "Is she really going out with him"
    - No Dice "Silly Girl"
    - Nazareth "Place In Your Heart ", "May The Sunshine " and "Holiday"

  • @murreygellmann7708
    @murreygellmann7708 3 місяці тому +3

    Sorry dudes last three hahahahaha
    1. Exploding Hearts- I'm A Pretender
    2. Yum Yums- Be My Baby
    3. Muffs- From Your Girl

  • @pauldavis4287
    @pauldavis4287 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for the FOY mention. LOVE Fountains of Wayne! Absolutely brilliant and criminally underrated…

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  3 місяці тому +1

      Not. bad album in the catalog. R.I.P. Adam Schlesinger

    • @pauldavis4287
      @pauldavis4287 3 місяці тому

      @@thecontrarians2438 His passing was unbelievably tragic. Totally agree with every album (Welcome Interstate Mgrs. is a classic.) album being great.

  • @DMS-yj5zs
    @DMS-yj5zs 3 місяці тому +1

    Dada - Dizz Knee Land
    Deepest Blue- Wanderlust
    Is he in your heart tonight - Convoy
    Anything by The Clarks.

  • @inmyhouse11
    @inmyhouse11 3 місяці тому +2

    A Girl Like You- The Smithereens
    Down- Cheap Trick
    Listen To the Radio- Cats In Space

  • @barelymanilow7079
    @barelymanilow7079 3 місяці тому +1

    The Quick- Pretty Please Me
    The Barracudas- I Can't Pretend
    The Romantics- What I Like About You

  • @Jamesharris-lo9nn
    @Jamesharris-lo9nn 3 місяці тому +2

    These instantly come to mind.
    Joe Jackson ... I'm The Man
    The Ramones... I Wanna Be Sedated
    The Romantics... What I Like About You
    Cheap Trick...I Want You To Want Me (Live/Budokan)
    Fun Show Gents 👌🎸

  • @jonnybago8676
    @jonnybago8676 3 місяці тому

    1. When I Look in Your Eyes - The Romantcs
    2. Stay In Time - Off Broadway
    3. Good Boys - Yipes

  • @SB-kr1dw
    @SB-kr1dw 3 місяці тому

    1. Ned's Atomic Dustbin - Grey Cell Green
    2. Utopia - Love in Action
    3. The Bears - None of the Above

  • @toddhill7483
    @toddhill7483 3 місяці тому +4

    Jellyfish Calling Sarah
    Bram Tchaikovsky The Robber
    Cheap Trick So Good to See You
    The Plimsouls Zero Hour
    Elliot Smith Stupidity Tries

  • @richardarchbold4721
    @richardarchbold4721 3 місяці тому

    The Beat - Rock N' Roll Girl
    Marshall Crenshaw - Someday, Someway
    Nick Lowe (or any live version by Rockpile) - I Knew The Bride (When She Used To Rock N' Roll)

  • @painless465
    @painless465 3 місяці тому

    So it goes-Nick Lowe
    Feel-Big Star
    Another Girl, Another Planet-The Only Ones

  • @kennethgordon7900
    @kennethgordon7900 3 місяці тому +2

    The Who and the Pretenders are NOT power pop. Neither are The Gin Blossoms. Stephen has a good grasp of what power pop is. Matthew Sweet's "Girlfriend" is a good power pop song not mentioned.

  • @thomaswery3087
    @thomaswery3087 3 місяці тому

    I saw Nektar in the mid '702 just an awesome show great light show

  • @parishofrock2963
    @parishofrock2963 3 місяці тому +1

    Doing this show made me question are these songs Powerpop, Poprock, New Wave, Pub Rock, or Pop Punk or just Pop. And you know what I concluded, who cares?!? They’re all great songs!

    • @StephenSchnee
      @StephenSchnee 3 місяці тому

      AGREE 100%!!

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 3 місяці тому

      @@StephenSchnee it was great meeting you Stephen & great fun doing the show.

    • @StephenSchnee
      @StephenSchnee 3 місяці тому +1

      @@parishofrock2963 I love these kinds of chats, Parish! Thank YOU!

  • @RicoCosta317
    @RicoCosta317 2 місяці тому

    Matthew Sweet Girlfriend. Classic power pop.

  • @pederchristensen7981
    @pederchristensen7981 2 місяці тому

    Voice of the Beehive - I walk the earth - its not alternative its power pop ..

  • @utvf68
    @utvf68 3 місяці тому +8

    3. Go All The Way - The Raspberrries
    2. My Sharona - The Knack
    1. Surrender - Cheap Trick
    Honorable mention:
    Never Been Any Reason - Head East
    Just What I Needed - The Cars
    What I Like About You - The Romantics
    Baby Blue - Badfinger
    A Girl Like You - The Smithereens
    Head Over Heels - The Go-Go’s

    • @robertadams998
      @robertadams998 3 місяці тому

      Go all the way is automatically the first song I thought of

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  3 місяці тому

      but a perfect example

    • @ericdinse5047
      @ericdinse5047 3 місяці тому +1

      Agree w/Grant : Cherry Baby IS a power pop tune !!

  • @luarzemog
    @luarzemog 3 місяці тому +5

    Shoes - Tomorrow night -
    Big Star - September gurls -
    Badfinger - No matter what -

  • @rumblehat4357
    @rumblehat4357 3 місяці тому +4

    Badfinger- No Matter What
    Raspberrries- Go All The Way
    Sweet- Fox On The Run

  • @JCStorm76
    @JCStorm76 3 місяці тому +5

    1. The Plimsouls- A Million Miles Away
    2. Big Star-September Gurls
    3. The Knack-Another Lousy Day In Paradise

  • @pauldavis4287
    @pauldavis4287 3 місяці тому +7

    1. Fountains of Wayne: Stacy’s Mom. 2. Cheap Trick: Dream Police 3. The Cars: Just What I needed

  • @Rockstardust69
    @Rockstardust69 3 місяці тому +6

    The vapors turning Japanese is a good example of power pop

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 3 місяці тому

      It certainly is. Great song.

    • @StephenSchnee
      @StephenSchnee 3 місяці тому +2

      While some consider them New Wave and they've even been lumped in with the Mod scene thanks to their connection to The Jam, I'd say that The Vapors are closer to Power Pop than those two genres....

  • @willfitzpatrick1107
    @willfitzpatrick1107 3 місяці тому +4

    Nick Lowe- Switchboard Susan
    Dwight Twilley- I'm On Fire
    The Shoes- I Don't Miss You

  • @MrFrikkenfrakken
    @MrFrikkenfrakken 3 місяці тому +5

    This is going to be an interesting panel - three off the top of my head:
    Tommy Tutone - 8675309/Jenny
    Bram Tchaikovsky - Girl of My Dreams
    The Knack - My Sharona

  • @yankeefan1208
    @yankeefan1208 3 місяці тому +6

    Powerpop: too heavy for pop and too soft for rock

  • @andywylie6784
    @andywylie6784 3 місяці тому +4

    The Records - Starry Eyes
    Paul Collin’s Beat - Rock n Roll Girl
    Raspberries - Go All The Way
    There are a million others I want to include, but these three are untouchable.

  • @gino88
    @gino88 3 місяці тому +5

    1. If you wanna - The Vaccines
    2. Chelsea Dagger- the Fratellis
    3. Ah Leah- Donnie Iris

    • @MrSummerObe
      @MrSummerObe 3 місяці тому

      Nice to see something from this Century!!

    • @gino88
      @gino88 3 місяці тому

      @@MrSummerObe I purposely tried to throw in some newish bands people can check out.

    • @MrSummerObe
      @MrSummerObe 3 місяці тому

      @@gino88 good call!

  • @ledzeplover58
    @ledzeplover58 3 місяці тому +4

    Go All The Way-Raspberries
    After Last Night-The A's
    Do Anything You Wanna Do-Eddie And The Hot Rods

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 3 місяці тому

      Good shout with E&THR. Love that song. Great album too.

    • @ledzeplover58
      @ledzeplover58 3 місяці тому +1

      @@parishofrock2963 So much better than the non descript first album.

  • @takodabostwick8507
    @takodabostwick8507 3 місяці тому +3

    Pro-To Power Pop
    She Loves You The Beatles
    The Kids Are Alright The Who
    I Get Around The Beach Boys
    Honorable Mention
    Any Way You Want It Dave Clark Five
    Classic
    No Matter What Badfinger
    Shake Some Action Flammin' Groovies
    Surrender Cheap Trick
    Honorable Mention
    Just Want I Wanted The Cars
    80s
    What I Like About You The Romantics
    The Breakup Song (They Don't Write Them) The Greg Kihn Band
    Going Underground The Jam
    Honorable Mention
    Jessie's Girl Rick Springfield
    90s
    What You Do to Me Teenage Fanclub
    Buddy Holly Weezer
    Skips a Beat (Over You) The Promise Ring
    Honorable Mention
    All The Small Things Blink 182
    00s
    Stacy's Mom Fountains of Wayne
    Hold On Jonas Brothers
    Break Your Little Heart All Time Low
    Honorable Mention
    Modern Kicks The Exploding Hearts

  • @murreygellmann7708
    @murreygellmann7708 3 місяці тому +3

    1. Plimsouls- Now
    2. Nastyfacts- Get To You
    3. Speedies- Time

  • @victoriawilcox3545
    @victoriawilcox3545 3 місяці тому +6

    Cheap Trick- She’s Tight

  • @tommartling2473
    @tommartling2473 3 місяці тому +4

    Rasberries. Go all the Way !!

  • @murreygellmann7708
    @murreygellmann7708 3 місяці тому +3

    Tommy Ray- In Love Again
    Romero- Honey
    Ramones- She's A Sensation

  • @digmacdiggydoo
    @digmacdiggydoo 3 місяці тому +4

    I'm not sure you would consider Badfinger's "Wish You Were Here" power pop, but that is a fantastic record.

    • @JCStorm76
      @JCStorm76 3 місяці тому +2

      It’s as powerpop as it gets and yes it’s fantastic

    • @thecontrarians2438
      @thecontrarians2438  3 місяці тому +1

      Some of it is power pop

    • @ButchArgus
      @ButchArgus 3 місяці тому +1

      Tremendous album. Should have been huge. “Know One Knows” is power pop imho

    • @StephenSchnee
      @StephenSchnee 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree that many might not consider it completely Power Pop, but it is an incredible album. My fave of all time.

  • @roydemarais
    @roydemarais 2 місяці тому +1

    "Couldn't I Just Tell You" -Todd
    "No Matter What" -Badfinger
    ""Live" -The Merry-Go-Round
    "Go All the Way" -The Raspberries
    "Turning Japanese" -The Vapors
    "Rubber Bullets" -10cc
    "Hasta Manana Monsieur" -Sparks
    "Pulling Muscles from a Shell" -Squeeze
    "Fox On the Run" -The Sweet
    "Run, Run, Run" -Jo Jo Gunne
    "I Got a Line on You" -Spirit
    "Caught In a Dream" -Alice Cooper Group
    "Don't Fear the Reaper" -B.O.C.
    "Girls" -Dwight Twilley
    "We Got the Beat" -The Go Go's
    "I Think We're Alone Now" -Tommy James and the Shondells
    "Headmaster" -The Kinks
    "Jesus Loves You" -Eve's Plum
    "Falling Down" -Chapterhouse
    "Hot Love", etc., etc... -Cheap Trick

  • @alv4794
    @alv4794 3 місяці тому +1

    Big Star - September Girls
    Badfinger - Baby Blue
    Shoes - Tomorrow Night
    Flaming Groovies - Shake Some Action
    Raspberries - Go All The Way
    Plimsouls - A Million Miles Away
    Todd Rundgren. - Didn't I Just Tell You
    Hoodoo Gurus - Bittersweet
    Lets Active - In Little Ways
    Emitt Rhodes - Fresh As a Daisy
    Teenage Fanclub - Sparky's Dream
    Dwight Twilley - I'm On Fire
    Records - Starry Eyes
    DB's - Neverland
    Squeeze - Another Nail In My Heart

  • @markdodds6141
    @markdodds6141 3 місяці тому +1

    There is no contest for #1
    Go All The Way by The Raspberries is the greatest power pop track of all time.
    The hard rock intro, the subject matter with the syrupy sweet vocal and soaring harmonies and fantastic melody. It is the top of the heap.
    For #2 I have to put Jellyfish. My fave Jellyfish album is Bellybutton but I choose Joining A Fan Club from the Spilt Milk album in the #2 spot. Amazing vocals & melody with driving guitar and interesting transitions.
    Lastly I will throw in Cheap Trick. I was going to pick You’re Taking Me Back but I choose the song Lookout that shows up on the expanded CD of the first self titled Cheap Trick album from 1977. It was first heard by most in the At Budokan album and in a rare instance here, I prefer the studio version over the live album.

  • @poptopia1
    @poptopia1 3 місяці тому +1

    Tal Bachman - She's So High Mandy Moore - I Could Break Your Heart Any Day Of The Week Dave Edmunds - Girl's Talk

  • @kylewoolsey6635
    @kylewoolsey6635 3 місяці тому +2

    I would call Marshall Crenshaw’s Someday Someway as power pop. In the 90s I’d say Material Issue’s Diane or Valerie Loves Me, and Matthew Sweet’s Sick of Myself.

  • @paulh6673
    @paulh6673 3 місяці тому +3

    1 September Girls - Big Star
    2. Couldn't I Just Tell You - Todd Rundgren
    3. Starry Eyes - The Records

  • @claudeluster6725
    @claudeluster6725 3 місяці тому +3

    1. “No Matter What” - Badfinger
    2. “You’re All I’ve Got Tonight” - The Cars
    3. “Behind the Wall of Sleep” - The Smithereens

  • @thomaswery3087
    @thomaswery3087 3 місяці тому +2

    1. Go All The Way-Rasberries
    2.Abracadabra-Steve Miller
    3.Just A Chance-Badfinger

  • @gazfunk
    @gazfunk 3 місяці тому +1

    If I could change your mind - Sugar
    Going Underground- The Jam
    Earn Enough For Us - XTC
    Paperback Writer - The Beatles
    Anything by Teenage Fanclub

  • @markhaselow8315
    @markhaselow8315 3 місяці тому +1

    How is KISS’ What Makes The World Go ‘Round NOT a power pop song?
    1. Utopia- Cry Baby
    2. Splender- Monotone
    3. Katrina and The Waves- Walkin’ On Sunshine

  • @robertadams998
    @robertadams998 3 місяці тому +2

    Anything by the Babies

  • @ericdinse5047
    @ericdinse5047 3 місяці тому +1

    Off Broadway - absolutely power pop !

  • @jbunte31
    @jbunte31 3 місяці тому +2

    Most of mine were mentioned, but I'd throw "My Kind of Lover" by Billy Squire out there.

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 3 місяці тому +1

      Billy Squier certainly crossed my mind.

    • @ButchArgus
      @ButchArgus 3 місяці тому +1

      I had Piper’s “Can’t Wait” on my “short list” (like 50+ songs)

  • @stonedog1000
    @stonedog1000 2 місяці тому +1

    That guy proposing "Jet" knows nothing about Power Pop. Get him off.

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 2 місяці тому

      🤣you’re probably right Stone Dog, after this show I concluded I know nothing about Power Pop. But in my defence, I wasn’t proposing Jet. It was on a Power Pop compilation album!!

  • @MrPsaunders
    @MrPsaunders 3 місяці тому +3

    The takeaway from this episode is that, 'None of us are wrong, and none of you are right'. Stephen Schnee

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 3 місяці тому

      Definitely the quote of the episode! 🤣

    • @StephenSchnee
      @StephenSchnee 3 місяці тому +2

      I thought it was pretty funny! Although I really shouldn't admit that.... :)

  • @Truthmoses
    @Truthmoses 3 місяці тому +1

    Tommy Keene-"Warren In the 60's."
    Listen now-thank me later.

  • @victoriawilcox3545
    @victoriawilcox3545 3 місяці тому +2

    The Cars- Best Friends Girl

  • @marcobruno3110
    @marcobruno3110 Місяць тому

    Go All the Way - Raspberries
    September Gurls - Big Star
    Open My Eyes - Nazz
    ---
    He's a Whore - Cheap Trick
    Shake Some Action - Flamin' Groovies
    Bittersweet - Hoodoo Gurus
    Don't Run Wild - Del Fuegos
    The Way You Touch My Hand - Nomads
    Monkey Puzzle - Brian Jonestown Massacre
    A Million Miles Away - Plimsouls
    What's So Funny About Peace, Love & Understanding - Elvis Costello
    Ever Fallen in Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've) - Buzzcocks
    There's No Other Way - Blur
    Starry Eyes - the Records
    Girl of My Dreams - Bram Tchaikovsky
    Mirror Star - Fabulous Poodles
    Mary of the Fourth Form - Boomtown Rats
    What I Like About You - the Romantics
    Every Word Means No - Let's Active
    Neverland - dB's
    Respectable Street - XTC
    No Matter What - Badfinger
    Blues Is King - Marshall Crenshaw
    Oh Candy - Cheap Trick
    Just What I Needed - the Cars
    Shape of Things to Come - Headboys

  • @daveycretin664
    @daveycretin664 3 місяці тому

    Groovy show, gents! I’ll do a 1990s take on power pop:
    The Posies ~ Dream All Day
    The Grays ~ Very Best Years
    The Greenberry Woods ~ Trampoline
    Keep up the wonderful work y’all do.
    Cheers from The Big Apple. 🍎
    Rock Out, Prog On and Power Pop Away!
    Your clone and mine,
    ~ The Divine Doppelgänger of Davey Cretin, from CRETIN CLASSICS.

  • @cameramanzoomit
    @cameramanzoomit 3 місяці тому +1

    The Laughing Dogs' first 2 albums, on Columbia, are a master class in Power Pop. Both albums were only recently added to Spotify and UA-cam. It's a crime they weren't big. Just a few years too early for MTV. They would have definitely gotten some airplay.

  • @superdown2009
    @superdown2009 3 місяці тому

    Hey Grant, I was at that Knack show in Cleveland with Bozio on drums. Seeing Berton play the solo to My Sharona right in front of my face is still one of my favorite concert moments ever.
    Here are a few of power pop tunes that I don't think have been mentioned yet that I dig....
    No particular order....
    The Toms - Can We Still Be Friends
    Phil Seymour - Baby It's You or Precious To Me
    Dirty Looks - They Got Me Covered
    Laughing Dogs - Get 'im Outta Town
    Pezband - Baby It's Cold Outside
    The Quick - It Won't Be Long

  • @brianmiller1077
    @brianmiller1077 3 місяці тому

    First - not three songs but three alliterative elements for Power pop
    Hooks
    Harmonies
    Hand Claps
    Now 3 songs -
    Matthew Sweet - Evangeline
    Badfinger - No Matter What
    The Smithereens - Time and Time Again
    Three more
    The Beatles - And Your Bird Can Sing
    Matthew Sweet - I've Been Waiting
    Replacements - Can't Hardly Wait

  • @uncledenny2570
    @uncledenny2570 3 місяці тому +1

    Just listing the first 3 that pop in my head. Two of which are top 10 favorite songs all time:
    Badfinger- 'No Matter What'
    Raspberries - 'Go All The Way'
    Matthew Sweet - 'Girlfriend'
    🔊🎶

  • @johnsweeney8243
    @johnsweeney8243 3 місяці тому

    The Jags - Back Of My Hand
    The Pop - Shakeaway
    The Headboys - Shape Of Things To Come

  • @stonedog1000
    @stonedog1000 2 місяці тому

    Anything by Smithereens, BigStar, The Replacements

  • @RicoCosta317
    @RicoCosta317 2 місяці тому

    How can I Saw The Light conceivably be considered power pop.

  • @stonedog1000
    @stonedog1000 2 місяці тому

    " No Matter What" " My Sharona" " Waiting for Somebody"

  • @garym6688
    @garym6688 3 місяці тому +1

    Hooray! Finally a Power Pop episode! It's damned difficult to choose a top 3, but off the top of my head: 1. Surrender - Cheap Trick 2. I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend - Rubinoos 3. When My Baby's Beside Me - Big Star

  • @SteveK-hz6mr
    @SteveK-hz6mr 3 місяці тому +1

    I love Joe Jackson's first two records...is that power pop?

  • @frankies9465
    @frankies9465 3 місяці тому

    Cherry baby by Starz . Thank god for fast forward button. Give ur picks instead of apologizing for 3 mins before ur picks. Just a suggestion ! Good show, though Grant !

    • @StephenSchnee
      @StephenSchnee 3 місяці тому

      Now, I have to go back and watch and see how many times I did that! Sorry!

  • @daveandreahoward8203
    @daveandreahoward8203 3 місяці тому

    Dwight Twilly. I'M ON FIRE!

  • @jeffbuege6509
    @jeffbuege6509 3 місяці тому

    The Vaccines-If You Wanna

  • @davidaburdick
    @davidaburdick 3 місяці тому

    3 that absolutely define it.....
    1. the records - starry eyes
    2. flamin groovies - shake some action
    3. the shoes - tomorrow night

    • @davidaburdick
      @davidaburdick 3 місяці тому

      i do power pop myself mostly.........and garage rock

    • @davidaburdick
      @davidaburdick 3 місяці тому

      my band the jacks were all power pop...... we did this one last december
      ua-cam.com/video/1GvkpskmfQo/v-deo.html

  • @RicoCosta317
    @RicoCosta317 2 місяці тому

    Toto Hold the Line for sure.

  • @mattymac1399
    @mattymac1399 3 місяці тому

    Stories - Darling.

  • @simonharding3109
    @simonharding3109 3 місяці тому

    Most jellyfish songs

  • @jeffreyyannuzzi4832
    @jeffreyyannuzzi4832 3 місяці тому

    Thunder Island

  • @aleksandarfrick2656
    @aleksandarfrick2656 3 місяці тому

    Pop in power form is spread through many genres .

  • @lostcauseforkl
    @lostcauseforkl 3 місяці тому +3

    What a show!🎉 Idk... Matthew Sweet's 100% Fun?

    • @parishofrock2963
      @parishofrock2963 3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks, it was a lot of fun

    • @ButchArgus
      @ButchArgus 3 місяці тому +1

      Sick of Myself is a perfect song