Omang? People of the Rain Queen
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2020
- A look at relationships; family structure and a glimpse of the Royal Household of the Rain Queen Modjadji. Filmed among the Balobedu community of Ga Modjadji in Limpopo. Series produced and directed by Bjorn Rudner for the Media Peace Centre and funded by the National Lottery Distribution Trust Fund.
I used to think my friends were speaking in a deeper version ya Sepedi, gante ke Khelobedu. Super proud of the level of diversity in Mzansi.
That is what I thought when I first heard this.
Indeed. the language seems to have both elements of xivhenda and sepedi or sesotho I'm not sure
Just look deep into clans that build the tribes you'll see how diverse we are
I like it when people love their culture, nowadays our youth are lost and they ashamed of their roots.
Culture is man-made, Africans must move forward. We add no value to the world but do old relic traditions. Smh.
@@katlegomoatshe1312 What are western cultures adding besides hate, wars, sickness, sorrow and ultimately gruesome death?
@@thembisilemadlolo2802 So africans didn't have war, sickness, tribalism and sorrow before whites came? Cmon sesi
@@katlegomoatshe1312 the way you are saying this with affirmation as if you were there, "smh"
@@katlegomoatshe1312 your self hatred is loud
Zwa hashu zwi ri ita vhathu 👍🏿👍🏿
I'm so proud of my culture
molobedu wa straight
Long live monomutapa 🇿🇼🇿🇼
I think zimbabwe people needs to also recognise our most tribes
*kingdoms
They are not your tribe , they have integrated with other tribes like Bapedi , Venda “, Tsonga,Ndebele
They are not just Balobedu they are new group.
I love this laungage though i was born at Burgesfort. Beside i know all 11 langauges. Khelobedu
Nna ke Mopedi wa ga Sekhukhune, ke rata culture yaka and ke rata di culture txa batho ba bangwe. I'm not ashamed of myself. Naa wena o mang?
I’m from the same area (Burgersfort)
@@malindinkosi888 I was born in Dilokong hospital, grew up Ga makofane, primary at Ga Rantho (ngwaabe), secondary back at Ribacross, tertiary at witbank, lived in siyabuswa(kwandebele) and marblehall, that is why I learned different people.
Blue Moon Woooow I was born at Maandagshoek, Ga-Mpuru and grew up mostly at Steelpoort and Mashifane Park
Ke nna Mopedi wa Ga-Sekhukhune kua Mothopong wa Batau ba Ga-Nchabeleng.
Ke setlogolo sa Bakone ba go kua Tubatse tletlolo tlase ga meetse a mathata Bokone maropolla ntswe. Leina ke Mosetengwane Mologadi
@@Mowizzy1 shateeeeee, ke tshaba baditi.
Beautiful!!!
Those subtitles couldn't keep up with magogos.
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There is a minority tribe in Southern Zimbabwe who speak what is commonly called "Djanadjewo"...am part of that tribe but we are so few. It sounds like Khelobedu but not exactly. Like a mixture of Venda, Sotho and something else. But we mostly practice Venda traditions including our dressing.
Please share the source about your tribe I want to do research
@@yeah9758 Sorry there is no source, we are classified under the Sotho tribe in the Zimbabwean constitution (on the languages section). That is probably the only document that hints at our existence.
@@diaxdiax4731 ouk. I am a venda by the way. I wanted to understand where my language was created and that is probably Zimbabwe and Congo
@@yeah9758 There are Venda people in our area. Am actually half Venda. You will find most of us in the Beit-Bridge area going northwards, all the way to Gwanda. I have heard 2 versions of my Venda history. The first is that, the Ndebele under Mzilikazi brought some of the Venda people when he moved from the south to modern Zimbabwe. The second version is not very clear but it involves the Kalanga people who have always lived in western Zimbabwe/Eastern Botswana, however, they might have moved from Central Africa at some point in time. My great grandma has passed on so I unfortunately
have no way of getting more information for you.
@@diaxdiax4731 But what I heard is that venda people in SA came with Dimbanyika
This is beautiful ❤
Thank you
Beautiful unique culture
Young people are ashamed to speak their languages, ge ba fihla joburg they speak Zulu, motho ke molobedu but o bolela le nna ka sezulu it is embarrassing, apang polelo ya gabo lena, I learned a lot and I'm proud of this tribe.
@SICELO BHEKI BAFANA KHUMALO that true
The old woman, is speaking the language that's a direct link to LOZWI/Rozwi
Is there a connection between the Rozwi people and Rozvi people as both are from Zimbabwe..
I am proud of my culture
That Starting Theme Song … i need it 😭
21:35
An outline of this might bring back chronology to cultural development.
My deep rooted tradition... Bapedi... Balobedu... Gae ga modjadji... Tzaneen... Sekororo.... Nkhe ga yesu😜👏👏
How i love Africa, we are what god intended us to be. This is who we are, this is life for us. Culture is the bases of existence!!!
this man is not speaking khelobedu, and the subtitles are off
The presenter and the old man are not speaking khelobedu 100%. Nna are bolele are sepele. Ra Abha ra Tshepela
O apa nnete mooo.. Ba tshanxa bo ba
My culture my pride ❤
:-4 ke nyaka o tseba o re keka lebaka la ene ka Mosata ba nripile zinkunwane, bokoko ke ba Mohale. Nako ye nkha lwala keile ka dha ka Khehlakone le bokoko ka ripiwa zinkunwane, ngaka yaona yare ke ye morene ke dho khumana zingwe zwao phela ke dhe nazo. hee nkhe ba bojisa ba hana, ke tsene sekolo Sekgothi Primary School ka nako ya Principal Motupa.
We don't cook with fire. My grandma died at 80, 16 years ago used electricity, I didn't stay much in the village but we had a refrigerator and television as I remember coz we left in year 1999 when I was 4 years old. We are not that rural.
A very important information about the bolobedu people. However, it's going to be difficult for someone who knows nothing about khelobedu to understand and get the correct message. You were supposed to get someone to translate directly from khelobedu to English on those subtitles not interpreting it...
REA LEBOGA SEBATAKGOMO THOBELA GA LETSOALO KE TSONA TSA RENA DITHABENG.
Balobedu weee
Batho ba lahlile culture ya bona bare ke bona bazalwane, the same Christianity that was introduced by white people and at the same time the white people disrespect it, pastors nowadays are just a big joke in churches all they want is money.
O itira motho warra. Gobaneng o ngwadile comment eo ka sejahlaphi?
@@SeoFam01 Language is a mode of human communication, it doesn't matter if I speak Zulu or Shona, the message is the same, you must learn to read the contents, not the language, nothing special about English.
Kelobedo kehlakano yase venda shona nna katsebo yaka Balobedu watswa Zimbabwe 🇿🇼
Bjorn Rudner This is Mr Larry from Limpopo TV and i've been trying to reach out to you and your email keeps returning back to us. is there an alternative email we can use?
Translation is off, We lodzwi its not sepedi its not venda or tshonga
They call a child 'mwana' just like the Kikuyu language
But meetse a re saka nokeng
Is there a connection between the Rozwi/Lozwi and the Rozvi people??
Same
@@TN-my7tr I'm a Rozvi from Zimbabwe...
@@tana77100 that's awesome....here are your cousins. Some are in Zambia.
Is there another version with better subtitles? This is dreadful
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Am a water queen 👑👑 goddess
We both sound pedi and venda
But we belong to non of those tribes
@Thabiso M we do sound like venda and sepedi but we belong to none of those tribes like you said we do sound like sotho and lozi
Dont forget that sepedi is a dialect of sesotho so .....
Bro but we are our own tribe ....
@Thabiso M nna waits ke eng ....sharp ge have it your way we do have words which I are similar to those of the venda and pedi tribe
@Thabiso M mara do you hear what you are saying though ....we both agree gore sepedi is a direct dialect of sesotho if do aichaye da
@Thabiso M kanti nna kee tseng? .....kaor nna le wena re ova ntwe1 😒
Bakhekulu bao ke bona ba apago khelobedu fela... Bo bao bao presenter ba tshanxa
Baswa gare rekakatlele ka setsho reseke ra metsha ke dilo dishele
Okhe budha okhekha😂😂❤
Nna ke molozwi khe dhapa nokeng.. Khelobedu ke dho dula nkhe khe apa ka di nako ka moka
Good 👍 evening I wonder why did you Lost your language of se kalaka
E be ekhe dhoba Mochakhada #Modhefo
REA LEBOGA
Ra leboga setšo sa rena
But they sound more sePedi than Venda... this is funny, though...At school, they studied sePedi as their books are written in sePedi as Khelobedu is not an official language, why can't they write in Venda instead of Pedi? I can understand their anger for baPedi people as the Bapedi have marginalized all tribes in Limpopo from Venda, Tsonga, Khelobedu etc...
"Why can't they write tshivenda instead of pedi?" That's a very stupid question! Yes we did sepedi at school because our language is not official! How do you expect us not to incorporate it with our language? Listen to the lobedu that is spoken by those old ladies, that is pure Khelobedu! That man probably went to school and got influenced by the pedi that he did at school. "Moyanana" which is another word for "ngwana" means the same thing in both khelobedu and Venda. Another word is "mohlanga" which is equivalent to "mošimane" in pedi. You clearly don't know what you are talking about.
It was from King Thulare and allhis children Sekwati and Sekhukhune who were paying tribute to Queen Modjadji all these years.I don't understand why you say Bapedi marginalised any tribe in Limpopo.The Amandebele of Zebedieala too did sepedi in school,but there was no marginalisation they stick totheir language as soon as they leave the classroom.Khelobedu is closer toTshivenda and many languages of central and eastern africa.All they are asking for or need is to be themselves because they are not Bapedi,but Balobedu!
@Siya Mzam The spokesperson is trying to be intelligible that is why he has not opted to speak in deep khelobedu.They all would do it many a times!
They are talking about our history.
We are related to vhaVhenda and Barotse/BoLozi.
There is no book written in Sepedi.
Sepedi is a dielect.
Setlokwa,Sepulana,Sepedi and other Sotho related dielects are combined to make what we are taught in school.
Somebody naughty,decided to change Northern Sotho with Sepedi after 2000.
Even Bapedi don't speak the same.
Masemola,Nkoane ETC,dont speak the same.
@@Matomepule Balobedi ke Balozi,more related to Vhaluvhu...Sepedi used to be a dialect with the parent language as North sotho or sesotho sa lebowa,jiki jiki after 1994 Sepedi is a boss of all other dialects of north sotho.I'm aware that there's a case going on were they want to reverse this story.
Khelobedu is a dialect ya Sepedi.Sepedi is a dialect of Setswana and Sesotho 🤷🏽♂️
No. No, it isn't.
All the languages you mentioned fall on the Sotho-Tswana dialect continuum. Khelobedu and Sepedi are Northern Sotho dialects but Khelobedu just bears a high Venda influence while Venda itself bears a very high Sepedi influence.
Setswana, like Sepedi, is a Sotho-Tswana languages through and through with very minimal influence from the neighbouring non-Sotho-Tswana languages.
Sesotho, sometimes called Southern Sotho, is also a Sotho-Tswana language, but has quite a bit of Nguni influence hence the clicks which are originally from the Khoi and San languages.
If we look at the three main Sotho-Tswana languages, you'll quickly discover that Sepedi and Setswana are more Sotho than Sesotho especially in vocabulary.
@@pylchott9864 Okay point taken
@@pylchott9864 I couldn't agree more. ..O opile tlhogo lenaka
In the past all sotho sounding languages of limpopo were a dialects of a parent language called sesotho sa lebowa or north sotho.The created language is still spoken inThobela fm today.The language borrowed from all dialects to create a parent language.Sepedi,khelobedu,setlokwa,sepulana,seroka,sekoni including setebele sa lebowa were dialects of this parent language.When the new dispensation camein in 1994 i believe the minister of education was Dr Joe Phhahla,he is from gaSekhukhune,i think he is the one responsible for all these mess as he was trying to make a dialect dominate all other identities,so us as Balobedu we are very self loving,self rsepecting peoples who wont allow our age old identity to be swallowed by politicians and their agendas.Our languists are creating a script for posterity sothat our culture is preserved.Language is a tool of oppression,you cant fully emancipate if you describe oneself using a foreign language;in this case sepedi is a foreign language to Balobedu just like european languages.Ndaa!
Ndaaa ngwaana bomme
I found thia stupid. You speak sepedi and say the very language you speak is not sepedi. That chelobedu is more of venda is rubbish. It is clear this is sepedi
I think their language exist and properly spoken by the elder people if you can listen to them however the younger generation seem to speak Sepedi just like that gentlemen. His example of Khelobedu having "Kh" and Sepedi having "S" is similar to that of Zulu and Swati , in Zulu they use "Z" and in swati they use "Ts" and both are almost same but choose to exist independently.
@@msimisidlamini1603 that's true. The younger generations do sepedi as their home language at school since khelobedu is not official yet. Old people that never went to school can speak pure khelobedu and it really sounds like venda. The lobedu that younger people speak is more like pedi.
Khelobedu is not sepedi it is just influenced by pedi people. My pedi frieds used to not hear me when i speak khelobdu
Am proudly to be molobedu/molotswi twii,selowa/khelowa wee.
Wena we need to report you.Its soamazing gore be o tagilwe ke eng during lockdown?
I love this laungage though i was born at Burgesfort. Beside i know all 11 langauges. Khelobedu
I know 10 - Tsivenda is pending
@@malindinkosi888 welldone. To learn vhenda when you leave Ga mpuru pick me at Mooihoek then were drive to vhenda when u come back in two days you will be fine