Mike Rowe: People are starting to pay attention to this
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2024
- MikeRoweWorks Foundation CEO Mike Rowe weighs in on Gen Z pivoting towards trade careers as college tuition remains largely unaffordable. #foxbusiness
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Not only are the trade schools cheaper with better prospects of employment, they don't have the political indoctrination.
Amen to that!
I tried it. Trust me. They started that s**t too.
Most office jobs are going to be replaced. The feminist will be tearing up soon.
Not yet. 🙄
True. Goodbye Marxism 👋
Those degrees in Sociology, Psychology, animal science etc are worthless!!
Hey dont say that 😂 i am one of them (older graduate) and i am not woke like most of these kids are these days 😂. If done correctly and with some added wisdom, humbleness and an open mind to it, it's worth it. It gives you deeper insights to what society is doing right now. Worthless in terms of making big money..yes! 😅 I ended up as a teacher who is now have to deal with woke students with little to no will to study hard and my degree in social psychology helps to connect to them on a human level and hopefully able to steer them back to sanity.
What, being a modern day drug pusher isn't a good degree!
Agreed. Big Pharma, Big Oil and Big EDU are exploiting Americans 😊.
@@user_xsragreed...unfortunately you are a dieing breed
And there is it... (the pendulum swinging too far in the opposite direction). For the love of god, can people simply do their thing without having to knock other occupations?
AT LAST!!! I've been saying this for 5 DECADES! (The cost of higher education is obscene and totally unjustified). Learn a trade and begin a career immediately.
We need MORE people in the trade professions!
If starting wages rise (the sign of any real shortage), then people will go to the trades.
I went that roit in the late 90s, and it worked out well for me.
Genx was told get a degree in tech or business, i was never one to take the lemming root!
Open the border...
@@peachmango5347 🍅
@@AmeriGlobalI work with people in the trades. They make good money and they are in shortage.
Many take in young people in an apprenticeship, so they learn while getting paid
I ran the numbers during my second year of college. It was clear, even in the 80's, that I would make more money in the trades than with a degree. I am an electrician, totally debt free with a nice house, money in the bank and I can afford to do pretty much anything I want.
Hard work pays off.....want the proof go look in a mirror my friend. Success is what YOU make it.👍👍
Congratulations from a truck driver. I came to the same realization in 1996 after graduating college
Again you pricks talking about 80’s and 90’s.
When life was easy and cheap 😂
👍
Not everyone has the skill set to be an electrician
As a Human Resource manager I always said there are two types of workers. Those with their name on their door and those with their name on their shirt. You stand a 1 in 10,000 chance of getting you name on your door. If you have your name on your shirt you will always have a job!
Wrong! I work as a software developer, I don't have my name on a door and I make more than some executives. The industry has moved on from the name on the door crap a long time ago.
boo, its extremely easy to get name on door
@@DesertScorpionKSA Some software developing can be done at home which makes your job easier then working on machinery. But it's good your hands on skill is getting paid more than unskilled bigshots. Some companies are top-heavy & employees work for their college degree slave masters.
I know people with both, their name on the door and the shirt also, thats what im working on doing
Let’s be honest HR is a waste of resources
The problem with most students in institutional schools is that they are trained to believe that they need someone to hand them the information to memorize then regurgitate on a test. They do not know HOW to LEARN.
Most are not taught critical thinking skills.
That's because most of the professors are Democrat they don't want you to know how to do critical thinking
Turns out. Donnnies lender is a PornBank. Well of course it is. LOL...!
And most of what they get, is indoctrination, not knowledge. What comes out is useless lefties, who find themselves intitled to everything.
I went to a technical college for air conditioning repair and installation back in 1989. I worked for an air conditioning company during the day. And went to school 2 times a week from 6pm - 9pm. I paid my own way. I am still doing air conditioning today.
Thank God.....we absolutely need people like you.....👍👍👍
Job security. PLEASE PLEASE Contact local high schools (principals) and offer career internships (apprenticeships).
Your career and many like it deserve to be recognized for the ESSENTIAL role it is. Best wishes
HVAC techs make a solid living usually start at 30.00 an hour and with 10 years of experience, you can make 50.00 an hour or more in most cities. Extremely underrated.
@@Dividendflywheel You work for free as an intern. You get paid when you are an apprentice. That is a very important difference; please don't combine the two.
I'm in Florida and use rto work at a AC contractors warehouse. Most of the installers got paid 4, 5 hundred dollars a install. Sometimes they could do 2 a day and sometimes the install only took a few hours. Good money right now in AC even the techs are bringing home the bacon.
When you get charged $1000 to install a sink, you learn how to install a sink.
I got my engineering degree in 1981, before the costs of college exploded. Commuted from home, worked at the university and graduated without debt. I’ve had a very good career path. But ever since government started offering college loans, the price has exploded.
The cost has skyrocketed as well, since kids now demand much more posh campuses (campi?). I was at one in September that looked like the headquarters for a large-cap tech company -- the granite curbs around the roads and walking paths was just silly. The university I attended looked more like a minimum security prison, but a semester was about what I earned at my part time job in 2-3 weeks.
I graduated high school in 79. I had a psychology teacher that ranted about his brother-in-law in construction and how much money he made but we should choose the path like him going to college and getting a higher education.
He said sure I don’t have all the money and I don’t have the boat the camper or take all the vacations but it’s more fulfilling. Right there in high school. I said I’m not going to college I’m going to work.
I got into construction and had a great career. Everybody needs a car to drive a house to live in roads to drive on electricity, water, sewage System, whether it be in a city or a septic tank on your own property, food to eat , material to build with, etc. etc.
If you learn a trade, you can take it with you anywhere and find a job. Sure there are slow times I was in the trades for 38 years and always found work wherever I went, I am retired now, and I could go back to work today No problem.
I was amazed, they took vocational classes out of high school, metal shop, wood shop, and auto shop. It’s great to see people are finally figuring it out.
When banks gave loans, they made a judgment (cost analysis) and made a decision on if the loan was worth it. Can student looking for loan get a job, pay them back etc. This kept school tuition at a check and balance. Schools had to make decisions on tuition charges and if to high banks would refuse loans. When the government came in and kept saying YES to all loans even for basket weaving, schools knew they could charge whatever, and the government would continue to say yes. The government provided loans caused this mess and now is trying to look like hero's with loan forgiveness.
These Universities have had a gold mine.
That’s what people don’t want to admit. The government got involved, and things got worse. Those same people that won’t admit that think we need even more government involvement. 🙃
In 1992 I paid $600.00 to go to truck driving school . I made double that the first week . Making $1400 a week training wages . I had $13,000 in the bank in 3 months
Got my CDL in 1996, it helped me double my paycheck with a college degree. Sobering, eye-opening and rewarding in the long run.
That’s not possible now
@@rthua5718 I wasen't working in 1992 but New drivers make around $400 a week
@@rthua5718 no
I’ve been trucking since 1979. Great life, excellent money and freedom,,,, used to be better until all the dot changes.
The US military forces offer the best trade schools in the world: diesel, motor, aircraft mechanics; electricians; welders, plumbers; machinists; operating room technicians; computer technicians; meterologists; just about any trade you're interested in. Plus they test you a lot on basic training to find out what you're going to be good at. It's a great way to get the skills you need, and it's a fine first step in life -- and an honorable career.
I’m a veteran , going to UTI for mechanics. Gi bill paying me so I only go to work/school 3 hours a day. Good times
I mentioned my son, recently in this post. He’s taking the welding diploma program at a community college. He’s 19. He had surgery on both of his feet when he was about 15. The military is not an option for him and it’s not a an option for a lot of people for various reasons. On the other hand, his brother has been a Marine for 10 years. He has a bachelors degree that he got in the military. He is a staff sergeant that works at an embassy in Eastern Europe.
This the route I took . I went to school for aviation and still had g.i bill leftover to back for info technology. I wasn’t the best at it so I quit but had I stuck with it I’d essentially have two trades that I could get paid for at the same time. I know people don’t wanna fight politicians wars but there’s only a percentage of people who actually partake in that . The rest of us are supporting the ones that’s do partake.
The left has now destroyed the military with their DEI CRT and Woke ideology agenda this is the reason they have recruiting problems.
I did 4 years in the Navy where they trained me to be an avionics technician 50 years ago. With that knowledge I made millions in my work career in electronics and telecommunications . I was making over $60k in the early 1980s and made over $100,000 a year my last 15 years before retirement. Not bad for just barely making it through high school.
Went for Computer Science back in 2001. Completed. Had some decent jobs. Realized you have to constantly continue going to school or you're left behind.
After a decade, I am now a class A CNC machinist, and it pays very well. Who would have thought?
You sound like a subpar comp sci engineer.
Our son is finishing his 3rd year as an electrical apprentice. His sister took the college route and has her construction engineering degree. She graduated debt free and next year he will also graduate debt free. So glad they dodged the student loan trap.
Great blessing. 👍
Way to go!
The market decides what kind of worker we need, not your degree. If you cannot sell what you studied for, well…
My niece got a degree on scholarship because of her high grades in High School. She works in an insurance company. Nothing related to her degree. She did meet her husband at the University! 😊
I had 2 yrs of training in machine shop in high school in 1978 79. Couldn't get in the local votech school due to a backlog of applications. Still got a job as a machinist. 44 yrs later I'm still a machinist. Been a great career that I've loved.
Got my B.A. and M.A. and worked in the non-profit world for 20 years. Started a construction company 6 years ago and let’s just say, I now drive a nice truck and owe taxes every spring.
Is that supposed to be a good thing? I'm genuinely asking bc I couldn't tell
IT'S THE TRUTH, GO TO YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND CHOOSE A TRADE, YOU'LL NEVER BE OUT OF WORK. CREATING AND MAKING THINGS WITH YOUR HANDS WILL ALWAYS MAKE YOU MONEY, MIKE ROWE IS 100% CORRECT. GOOD LUCK MEN!!🇺🇸👍
How does one find a good paying job? Every company I called is offering around $20 per hour to do skilled trade work. How does one support a family making $20 / hr in 2024? Those are 2010 wages.
University experience,, riot, looting, rebellion,
attacking congress when you're butthurt
Tell me you didn't go to college without telling me😂
Mike Rowe 2028... he needs to run.
Mike Rowe and Vivek would fix everything.. undeniable best 2 to run
A real dirty job
They would have a dirty job on foreign policy. 😊
He would be disappeared
I’m a retired teacher with 3 degrees including a Masters and never made over $36000 a year. My little brother went to trade school and became a Master Electrician and makes 6 figures. I still owe on school loans while he is debt free.
Edit: for those saying I’m lazy and get a better job…I did years ago. I left teaching for sales and tripled my income with no education required. Just another reason a degree can be great but isn’t necessarily great for everyone. Now, retired, I get to sit at home and grade your kid’s state tests on my own time so at least I’m using those degrees which is more than some can say.
I'm also a retired teacher. I made a similar wage. My son didn't choose to go to college. He made double the money I did right out of high school.
Retired still paying off college loans ? got screwed by govt or bank
Retired and still paying off student loans? Are you insane?
My little bro also did the same and his company paid for his training (at a college) and his certs.
Where did you teach at? My school district starts new teachers with no experience at $55000 a year.
Here's what I'm thinking: Go to trade school, learn a trade that's useful, earn some money, and then, if suddenly you want to, do college degree.
And if you find out that college isn't your thing, drop out and go back to your old trade, with a good salary to pay back any debt you may have accumulated.
Just a thought.
My 22 year old grandson got a plumbing job two years ago. He loves it. It’s not just unplugging drains and toilets. Plumbers do a lot of different jobs. He makes very good money, serious money. And people always need plumbers, no matter what the economy. I’m glad he chose the right path.I would encourage young people to think about a trades job. You’re pretty much set for life if you do!
I like plumbing. Everyone has it and most will need it fixed. Lifetime of earnings.
TEACHERS ARE NOT BEING TAUGHT HOW TO TEACH CHILDREN/ YOUTH ANYMORE!!!
When you get too many Kids being a Fool in School ... is that the Teacher's fault or more on the Parent & family culture they promote?
same goes for parents. my own parents didnt invest in educating me. i wanted to join so many programs but they didnt put me in them. the problem is old people think 30,000 is a lot of money. its not. old people think high school education is quality. its not.
Says who?
I worked in a construction trade for 45 years. I built my own house debt free and helped others along the way. Now I am retired.
The university experience is overrated.
Better off in the college of knowledge. In there you learn common sense!
There are certain fields where having a college education is needed (e.g., many of the STEM fields, law, elementary and secondary education, etc.). But beyond that? I'm not so sure.
My son went on to be a doctor- an M.D. He had an Air Force scholarship. He paid that off by serving time in the Air Force. He was in the Army 3 years before joining the Air Force. That was good. University is good for engineering and any specific degree. I used my degree in German to go to graduate school and had a profession then.
Best 6 years of my life
Too many colleges waste money, time, & talent for garbage degrees. I attended college & one particular class was totally worthless! Yes some degrees are just a time wasted receipt.
I left a government job in 1976 to apprentice sheet metal installation. 45 years later at the age of 74 I’m still working at $40 an hour. If you get a trade nobody can take it away and your future monetarily will be secure. You will never be without work.
Sheet Metal, Electrical, and Plumbing are the best 3 choices. They all cover a broad spectrum of the work. They have great pay with benefits. With a decade of experience they can all lead into specialties that are less hard on the body.
The only thing is if too many people flood trade jobs, that will cause the wages to go down for trade jobs. Everybody in my country was in construction until 2008. Every second man was a plumber, electrician and a carpenter, the construction industry collapsed and everybody lost their job and fled the country for work.
It’s going to happen in the US
Plumber is the way to go. There is always work.
Housing is very scarce in the US so they should have work for a long time
This is very good news. Make America Great Again! 🇺🇸
The number of credit hours for college should be reduced. Concentrate on degree related requirements only. An Engineering, Accounting degree should only require Accounting and Engineering related classes only. The cost for college is ridiculous.
Absolutely! I’ve said this for years. If I had children in school, I would encourage them to think about trade school and be their own boss.
Everything is unaffordable I don’t understand this government I don’t understand America 🇺🇸 I was born hear but what the system and government does to people is horrible
Iron workers, roofers machinists -skilled trades in general are in high demand today.
get an update grandpa. roofers have been completely taken over by juans and pacos. there is no money in it. the pay is 12hr and no you cant "budget" with 12hr
They're three of the most daily" this sucks" jobs too. Where I live, production of military machinery employs the most concentrated machinist jobs in all of U.S.. Machinists here have to have cortisone shots in their feet every six months so they can stand at their machines the full twelve hour shifts, because it's the silly American way not to allow sitting down when they work. Cortisone starts to damage the body after four treatments, but they do it anyway so they can keep their jobs. After they're too busted up to work, industry replaces them as if they never existed. Then, they're on disability and pain killers for the rest of their lives. Oh, what a wonderful life to be in skilled trades! Lol. Kids, save yourself a life of grief and stay in University.
Gen Z favors Trump 🇺🇸 24, and will assure his victory in November.
LOL, because of Gen Z, especially Gen Z women, Trump won't win.
@@FrankandCents28 no he will win despite the liberal women and RFK Junior will help him by taking votes away from the Democrat candidate, who I still don’t believe will be Alzheimer’s Biden
Don't rely on politicians to fix your life, regardless of your political status. As a man you have to make yourself an asset to society, and earn your value. Nothing is given to men!
Trump can win, but he will have to overcome all of those votes from illegal aliens and those residing in cemeteries.
I see my previous comment was removed so I will try again. Trump can win, but he will need to overcome the votes of our "recent arrivals" and those residing in our cemeteries.
i'm 46 and remember in 1997-1998 classes at the local community collage were $75 a class per semester ha x5 that is less than $500 with books!
The government got involved - guaranteeing loans and subsidizing colleges - so naturally the cost goes through the roof - wink wink - like every thing the government gets into - roads - food - housing - medical care - on and on and on
Thank God! We are in desperate need of this in our country!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Finally people are waking up!
As a hvac technician, I have seen that out of 10 maybe 1 apprentices will make it. Most of those trade school cost $10k-$20k and you start off making minimum wage only. And, it’s a dirty and dangerous job. I fell through a house because one of the roof rafter was rotten out, happened so fast, I am very fortunate to still be okay. Also the trade is taking a turn for the worst, most apprentice will find out once they start working. My advice for college students is just don’t pick a useless major or just build yourself your own business or job
Trades are way worse than 10 years ago. You used to have experienced old superintendents now you have their kid who was never in the field or even a women who is incapable of decision making.
My congressman is Blake Moore I am very proud of the work he has done to Advanced farming and water rights laws in the Rocky mountains.
I trained to be a barber in 1975. It was the best thing I did for my family. I had a 40 year career. Loved working for people who wanted a great haircut, style, beard trim, facials. I miss it. Retired almost 10 years now. The one year apprenticeship was a wonder second step of many.
364,000 for a degree. Almost 1/2 million and that's if it doesn't go up each year.
Debt based fiat currency needs debts to create wealth...
There's a women's basketball coach at LSU that makes 20,000 a day
Yes , gender studies is very important. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s true I went to trade school for a couple months. All I have is a high school diploma I make $145,000 a year. I have a pension I have a 457 and I have full benefits free from my employer . I know people with numerous degrees, and they work for minimum wage and fields that are not consistent with what their education is.
I wasn’t interested in going to school for years maybe decades to acquire massive debt
Funny. In high school, I took wood shop, metal shop, auto shop and electronics. Some of my favorite classes. They’re not even offered anymore. I did the 4-year college thing, earned an accounting degree had a career change 6-years into my career and became a software engineer. A lot of those skills I learned in shop class I maintained in my personal life. When I’m not ‘working’ I like fixing/building things around the house and maintaining my own car. I think shop class should be brought back at the high school level. Those are life skills if not career skills every young man should learn.
I went to college in 1995 and it was 7k a year. My same college is now 11k. I will push my kids toward a trade school but you can go to college without incurring hundred of thousands of dollars in debt. Parents just need to help kids make prudent decisions.
My youngest son didn’t want to go to college. He did landscaping, bought houses at auction and repaired them. He sold some of those and others he kept for rentals. He did very well. He left inheritances to four entities. He was always a worker! At 8 years old he went around the neighborhood getting mowing jobs! He passed away in August 2023! He is terribly missed!!
I'm so sorry for your loss. That type of work ethic is really admirable
You won’t ever see an 8 year old kid do that anymore. Sounds like a great guy and an awesome kid. He’s still alive just in another dimension called heaven with Jesus.
My son is 19. He goes to the community college that is about five minutes from the house. He’s taking the welding diploma program. There are a lot of trades taught at community colleges.
Good. Working in the trades does pay off. Warning- don’t join the Union is a tiny Po dunk place. My Dad joined the Union in a small town. Many jobs he took were in a Place where he was considered a traveler. Whenever layoffs started he was one of the first to be laid off. Later in his life he lived in Iowa. There he was not considered a traveler and finally had life easier.
I have preached to my children about ALL the options out there and pushed more of the idea of picking a trade to work that would fit their attention span more, meaning picking something they know they'd enjoy because they'd be working with their hands. I'll support what they want to do but I made it very clear if they are going to go to a university they will pick a career to go to school for and move forward with that. No general studies degree. No liberal arts degree. Learn welding, plumbing, mechanics, etc. that will start you off with no 5 figure(+) debt and income with a career that will always be needed.
Been doing refrigeration for 4 years bought a boat truck and house
Is Mike Rowe's trade school supported by the workforce grant? If so, then great . .. but then if any workforce grants are given to these colleges the students are leaving to attend your trade school, it needs to be retracted and moved to Rowe's school, that's making a difference..
I finished an AA Degree, but then finished an 8 month trade course, which put me in a higher wage bracket so that I could continue my educational goals.
Take that diploma down off the wall. Turn it over. And it will probably say waste of tuition.😮
The writing was on the wall when they stopped teaching wood shop and metal shop in our schools we had building trades in 1970 in high school we were taught how to build a house
Mike ROWE is beyond BRILLIANT ---Bravo
Happy Sunday to you too. 😀
My father wanted me to become an accountant. I did not listen and went to trade school. I am now a successful welder with my own company. I love it, and it provides nicely for my family
The rate of tuition increases is insane and the inclusion of absolutely garbage classes that now must be taken to get a four year degree is at fault.
What people are not talking about are all the realities of vocational training and trade jobs, and why people turned their back on them in the first place.
Because we got fed the lie that having a degree in higher education would get us higher paying jobs. That’s why.
@@AutumnLuvsJesus The college push started with Clinton/Gore back in 1993. That push was focused on STEM college degrees specifically. It was not all college degrees. It was specifically STEM college degrees. If you would have gotten a STEM college degree, chances are things worked out very well for you. The engineering profession produces more millionaires than any other career choice, professional or vocational or any other job. The other three letters have also done very well. A sociology degree is going to make you rich, said no one ever. In any case, Mike Rowe is replacing the "college lie" with the trades lie, except the trades lie is far more insidious and detrimental to the individuals that swallow it.
@@free-qe6wx that was not how it was framed to us. It was “get a college degree and it will pay for itself.” There was never a mention of STEM, which is absolutely logical and the only kind of degree that does make sense. But unfortunately by the time I was graduating high school it was just a whole push to lock students into loan debt. Why do you think trade schools are bad btw? I honestly have never heard anyone say this about them and I would like to hear your take!
@@AutumnLuvsJesus My Bachelors was paid for entirely by the GI Bill, and my Masters was paid for entirely by employee tuition assistance (and a couple of small grants) at my first employer out of college. Most people can join the military and earn the GI Bill, and many employers offer some level of employee tuition assistance. Student loan debt is a choice that you made. And even if you did, a Bachelors degree at state schools all across the country cost $30k or less all in. This is not a crippling amount of debt by any stretch of the imagination. A Masters degree at state schools all across the country cost $15k or less all in. This is a far cry from the nonsense Mike Rowe is selling.
The modern push for a college education was in 1993 by Clinton/Gore, and the emphasis was on STEM. Even to this day, Clinton continues to push STEM as the principal program family of his namesake college. HOPE scholarships, Lifetime Learning Credits, major reform/increase of Pell Grants, and many more...that was all Clinton/Gore. To be clear, I am not a Clinton/Gore fanboy. But no presidency did more for college education than Clinton/Gore (other than maybe FDR when he signed the original GI Bill into law in 1944) and their message was get a STEM degree.
@@free-qe6wx I think maybe I misrepresented myself here, actually I got scholarships and I only owed like 5k for my degree personally lol. I was lamenting for a lot of people I know in my generation that got suckered by the rhetoric. And idk what school is 30k for a bachelor’s degree, come on now. 30k per semester maybe. Mine was 150k. Again, I barely paid anything because I kept my grades above 3.5 and got scholarships to pay most of it. I agree that if you are smart about it, you can avoid that debt. BUT, when you have your high school teachers and college professors telling you that you can get these easy loans and the degree will pay for itself, then you have tons of people who get caught up in that. I’m thankful that even though I was not one of those people, I still have the empathy and understanding that this was a trick pushed on vulnerable young people for decades. I heard that garbage myself, I was just lucky enough to have mentors who showed me how to do it without the debt. You seem to be one of those “since it didn’t happen to me it doesn’t exist” type of folks. Not that I think their loans should be forgotten or anything ;) But I definitely can sympathize for them.
My question, however, was why do you feel that vocational or trade schools are so bad? And do you think they’re all bad, or just certain kinds?
A college degree shows a person can learn does not prove they will add value. A career in anything is life long journey is learning. You have to learn and bring value to the employer.
Most bachelors degrees are completely worthless and pointless.
Yes, if they aren’t aimed at a certain job, like accounting, engineering, medicine etc. I majored in German and minored in Spanish. The German was because I lived in Germany 5 1/2 years. I don’t get opportunities to speak German. Opportunities to speak Spanish are often available.
I got apprenticeship as an electrician and later as a carpenter. I was having beer with a couple of friends and they had to hear that I was making more money, and my credit history, (and new Mustang) was better. Even my car payments were extremely low as I put a very large down payment and the credit union gave me a 10% rate. Three and 1/2 years to payoff the car. Got to retire at 55 and have over 60 K in savings and almost as much in checking. They are still working and won't be able to retire till they reach 70. I can thank Mike for his advice!
It's a good thing- how many women's studies degree holders do you want! I worked in civil engineering for 15 years as a steel erector, its well paid and pretty fullfilling to look at city skylines and know you helped build something that will stand for years. Now I wonder if i could sculpt in steel.... architecture is the most purposeful sculpture there is! Transferable skills from tradecrafts are way more in depth than anything taught in arts and crafts.
The faces and the face in the red. 🧐📝💜👍📹
In many cases OJT is better than classes and doesn't cost anything.
I agree OJT with a degree will pull in more. But OJT is still a good option.
This is a good thing. My husband retired from being a machinist. He still has companies wanting to hire him because of his experience. We need more tradesmen.
Getting cortisone shots in your feet every six months so you can stand at your machine twelve hours a day doesn't sound like a good thing to me. Doctors will tell you cortisone will start to damage your body after four back to back treatments, but they'll still do it if you ask for it. That's because they know if you want to keep your machinist job, you can't work without it.
@@illiniwood, Don't know where your from but cortisone shots are Not something that is needed. Maybe your talking about some kind of line job which is not a machinist. A true machinist gets a print, reads the blueprint, programs the machine and then actually makes the part starting with a prototype. It's math, geometry, programming. You are not in some kind of sweat shop.
@@paintedlady4589that's CNC machine. My step dad did this in early 90s. He was the only one at his job that could do CNC. The other guys run lathe machines.
Our son went to Warrior 2 Inspector and it was AMAZING!! A great school in AZ!
I went to a vocational and technical high school graduated in 1976 with the equivalent of an associate degree in electronics…went to work and had an excellent career
Mike Rowe speaking the truth
Unfortunately trade schools have caught on and the cost of these schools has gone way up too.
Mike should run for office because we need someone with brains in the Congress and Senate. We definitely need someone better in the White House !
I received a four year degree in two years and still can’t find a good career. The company I work for paid for everything so thankfully I didn’t pay a single cent. All I had to do was maintain a g.p.a above a 3.5 which I did. Yet still doing nothing with my receipt the company paid for
Big fan of Mike Rowe!
❤ Mike Rowe
Some advice for GEN Z going into the trades . LEARN SPANISH!!! If you want to get into a supervisory position or eventually own your own company . You def will use and need it . Wish I’d known this 37 yrs ago . Also Mike spit a lot of truth about overcoming the stigmas .Hoping the upcoming generations don’t have to hear the crap spewed by high school teachers and counselors and society in general , that A Gen Xer heard .
Mike Rowe is a stand human being. He is simply pointing out opportunities to young people that have been going unnoticed for years. If 50% of college students never end up graduating then its pretty easy to come to the conclusion that there are a whole bunch of young people who need a better path. Awesome work!
I went to trade school for pharmacy, paid $2,200 ... I made that back in a few months
College and universities have always been a scam.
I did it all. Went to brick & mortar, did a degree online, and have spent the better part of 20 years in a technical trade that doesnt necessarily require higher education. Each has its benefits. None of them are useless. Do what's right for you. No better advocate for your future than yourself.
We should start having similar conversations about the housing market too. Education is treated as an “investment in your future” over a 4-6 year time period.
A house/property is treated the same, “it will only increase/appreciate in value over time”…but that is IF you can afford it and over a time period of 20-30 years.
Don’t worry, once the government gets involved in trade schools and the like, the prices will skyrocket just like it did with colleges
"Median pay for new hires-Professional Services = $39,520" ~ [based on 40/hr work week = $19/hr ]
CA fast food workers now paid $20/hr [ $41,600/yr]. Last time I checked, a college degree isn't a requirement for employment at MacDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, etc etc etc
My college friends son, is doing concrete work for 24 dollars per hour. How come the company wont pay him 6 figures MIke?
Speaking as a comfortably retired Sr. Application Developer who never went to college, the diploma route is a total waste of money UNLESS you're going for a Doctor of Medicine or similar field. I finally broke down and paid 10K for a set of university classes to get my MCSD (Microsoft Certified Solution Developer) so that I had a piece of paper that said I knew what I claimed to know. This was late in my career, BTW, not at the beginning. 10K vs. 400K is a total no-brainer. One can get similar certificates for technical fields as well as "trade" fields. IMHO, there is no work that is not worthy of respect so long as it's performed in the spirit of service. Figure out what gives you joy and then figure out how to get paid to do that. I started my career in 1979 and retired in 2022.
So True...
I was part of the last generation that could pay for their own college degree. In the 80's it took me 7 years for my 4 year engineering degree because I had to work full time to pay for it while I studied. Today, kids can't do that anymore. University didn't teach me what I do at work everyday, but it taught me how to think, solve problems, and research and learn. Trade school will not teach you that. However I agree we need both. My high school friend sells welding equipment and makes a lot more money that I do.
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I graduated with a bachelors of engineering degree in 2005. I went to an in-state school and tuition was about $2k a semester… I lived off campus, Worked 30+ hours a week for most of my schooling and didn’t buy all the books, only the ones that I couldn’t find in the library… I graduated with no debt and paid for school myself. After I graduated, tuition nearly doubled, But still, if you really try to find a way to make it cheap, you can do it. Agree that trade schools are probably best for most people but if you’re going to study engineering, accounting/finance, architecture, etc.., You can’t really do that in trade school
Went to Vo-Tech in high school in the 90's to be an electrician. Was made fun of for it by many kids. Now I worked my way up to controls engineer, no college debt making well into the 6 figures and get calls every week for work. Those that can actually do something will always be employed.
I’ve only got 12k in debt during my four year college run. I’ve never went to a private college and that’s the problem. If you want these private colleges to lower the prices then have your kids not go to them plain and simple. Send them to city and state schools which are cheaper and the same quality of education.
My College tuition in 1983 was 1200 dollars per semester, for 12 credit hours, and i could add up to 18 hours for the same 1200 dollars. Electrical Engineer, finished my degree in 1992, it took awhile and I took some semesters off to work. Now I make 180k per year.
Started in a trade at 16. Ive always made a good living. I retired at 55. My home is paid for. My whole life i never asked anyone for a dime. Im proud of that. Its all about choices. I did ok. Nobody said life is easy. Getting out at 55 was alway the goal.
Mike should be the secretary of education or labor.
The reason a 4 year degree costs so much is the GOVERNMENT! $50,000 tuition, no problem. Just borrow it and put yourself in debt for decades. The more you can borrow, the more the school can charge you. How many schools would be charging insane tuitions if there was a cap of say $10,000 per year on borrowing for tuition. Also, certain degrees are useless without a Masters or Doctorate. Want to study the History of the Dark Ages? Either plan on becoming a Professor teaching that subject or just go to a book store and read about it in your spare time.
My neighbor picked berries in the fields as a kids came from a poor family, In high school got a part-time job working at construction site, and learned everything he could. After high school he became a contractor. He makes six digits and lives in a paid off house and cars are paid off. Both of his sons became electricians and both have paid off homes and cars. Now my friends son, wife and child live in their ADU rent free for eight years to pay off college loans. They bought a house and still are making payment on the school loan. Which means during those eight years they were not paying on their school loans. My nephew took a loan to study medicine he is traveling RN has the darkest circles under his eyes because he pulls double shifts to pay off his school loan
The "University Experience" has always been overrated, but never more than it has been for the last 30 years. I'm a child of the 50s and most middle class kids of my generation were guided by parents, teachers, and counselors to get on the college track. Of course, in those days, college was affordable. No one went into 5 figure debt to get a degree, let alone 6 or 7 figure debt like it is now. The jobs I got after graduation that I built a 30-year career on working in finance and accounting for high tech manufacturers, don't even exist anymore. The world will always need people that can build and fix things (I've got a guy replacing a deck on the back of my house as I'm typing this). I hope this trend we're seeing with Gen Z keeps going.
I spent 15k for a technical trade associate degree. Got a new job in 2020. Made 139k last year. Trade school is great!
What degree? Asking for a friend 👀
@@dr3725 I did automotive work for almost 20 years and just never got great wages. Went and got an associates degree in mechatronics. Mechanical and electrical skills. I know work for a major manufacturing company, maintaining and repairing CNC machines and robotics. I love it, it makes me think and learn, and figuring things out and fixing them is fun to me.
RN here community college. No debt. Make 4500 every 2 weeks.
Its no coincidence that higher education is most expensive....all part of the racket that has become institutional learning in this country. I don't know if this country will ever wake up to these facts
My son after high school went to trade school and is now making north of six figures, while my daughter got a four-year degree in social work she now makes 45,000 a year and has 50,000 dollars in student loans. My daughter tells me just how unfair it is that her brother only went to school for two years and is now making over double what she is and has no student loans to payback.
Good to see many are listening to the drama going on in academia and to voices like Mike.
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