How Not To Criticize Avengers: Infinity War
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2024
- How Not To Criticise Avengers: Infinity War is a response to the following videos:
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In 7:52 you can see a video titled: " Marvel's biggest Baddie just watts to be your daddy". Just letting you know.
Thank you senpai for noticing me.
It’s actually a good video on how Thanos wants to act like everyone’s father figure, even if he is extremely patronizing
Ironically enoug, you made a spelling mistake
@@wienerschnitzel1739 *enougche
Yes I know, that was an ironic joke
I'm surprised you didnt mention the fact that Bucky literally shoots at Thanos and, unlike most snipers are capable of, does so with a lot of bullets and holy shit IT DOES NOTHING
Hydraxion Voltage warmachine literally shot rockets at him and it did nothing
And Starlord shot Thanos in the face just before Thanos went to Wakanda, and it didn't even leave a mark.
Thor probably showered him in lightning and he just threw him around like a ragdoll. Hulk's punches did nothing to him. He broke off pieces of the Bleeding Edge armour AND took on what looked like tank missiles from Iron Man.
Spiderman kicked through bullet proof glass in homecoming, he broke it. He kicked Thanos' face, got a stumble
Hydraxion Voltage Doctor Strange swings a magic sword at Thanos, and the dude catches it with his bare hand.
How to criticise Infinity War: There was no Thanoscopter
I know right?
Discord Dolphin *Cringe Warning* i know! I feel your pain. Maybe we will see deapool pop up with it eventually
Also there were no Thanos Car and no Thanos Lake
It was in the post-credits scene.
Discord Dolphin *Cringe Warning* heck yea!!!! All truth to that my friend! U are a true comic reader and I'm glad I saw ur comment!
Another note against Onision. The Hulk is repeatedly shown to be bullet proof. Thanos is shown to be stronger than the Hulk. Thus, Thanos is probably also bullet proof.
I could probably beat a Bulletproof vest in a boxing match but i'm not bulletproof
@@tTaseric I mean, even then, I just rewatched the movie, and multiple character shoot him without him using the stones to protect himself. All the shots just bounce off.
Blake McElroy earth: has bullet proof vests which lemme say it again BULLET PROOF
Onision: wow hey good and real
Thanos: a powerful being able to survive with 6 infinity stones on his hand and is BULLET PROOF
Onision: wow very stupid and unrealistic
Another note against Onision: he's a muculent, narcissistic insecurity vampire who abusively manipulatives the weak and dumber for his sadistic satisfaction, so any valid utterance of his is invalidated by its loathsome conveyance.
@@tTaseric I don't think you could beat a reality warping bulletproof vest with consciousness
Didn't iron man shoot at thanos plenty of times, pretty sure his weapons beat out earth guns.
And Thanos responds "all of that for a single drop of blood?" The dude is clearly invulnerable in the same way that heroes like Thor and Superman are.
He just broke vision’s vibranium forehead, it’s not like it would be any difference if someone wants to use some “vibranium bullets” shitty argument
ScottJoC his armor was stronger than hulk against thanos
True seems someone wasn't very good at simple power scaling
What about uru bullets like the material that made Thor's axe
A giant piece of alien building the size of a cruise ship getting smashed down on Thanos using Iron-Man's rocket boots didn't work.
Lets try the sniper. That's SURE to work!
you're confusing blunt force with flesh piercing
thanos has flesh like everybody else, which can be cut, as we saw in the movie
sniper bullets are extremely sharp and are made to be able to pierce flesh
MLG MELON you’re forgetting that buck shot thanos and the bullets bounced off his head.
i rewatched the scene
bucky shot his armor and the gauntlet, not his head
@MLG Melon I'm trying to figure out if you're joking or not. Just because Thanos has flesh does not mean that flesh is at ALL equivalent to human flesh.
Judging that Thanos is able to take punches from Thor, Hulk, and the Bleeding Edge Iron Man suit without any aid from the stones and came out virtually unscathed, I'd say that his flesh is dozens or even hundreds of times more resistant to damage than any material we have here on Earth.
Also, Hulk has been shown laughing off 50 caliber bullets and Thanos' durability is equivalent to Hulk's, if not greater.
@@ZRStein Also, you have to remember that the infinity gauntlet gave him more power.
If Thanos broke the fucking tesseract with his own hands, a supposedly cube that requires too much force to even scratch, Thanos broke it like it was made of crystal
How to critisise Infinity War:
It dIDn't FeEL So GoOD...
I hope he pins this.
i saw it coming yet it still hit me lol
I am the 420th comment. Please do not let any body like it ever again
It was so bad it made me feel some sort of way
To add to the thing about Hulk. That description of him is clearly more of a comic book description, not a movie one, and the comics can get pretty god damned ridiculous. While Hulk is one of the strongest characters in the MCU, they never really give the impression that he's totally invincible.
@@colin3ds1 actually the comics cover all the multiverse not just one universe which is what the people haven't read the comics don't understand mcu is the start of the original universe if any you actually read most of all the comics you see that cause all the universes start with the original universe it is not a completely different universe so far the only thing that makes it veer off a little is character rights grant it the Spiderman part is the only thing that doesn't follow the original universe oh and Ms marvel posing as captain marvel cause that's all I see it as even down to every single stone being the same as the original universe cause in other universes one out of them has different powers the stones themselves say that it is the original universe from the comics
No, the mcu is has many diffrences when compared to the comic.
Whenever someone says Infinity War is the worst Marvel movie ever made, I assume they're just being edgy.
That...or they never saw 2003's "Hulk".
Have you everr seen the first Captain America movie from 1990? Or the unrelreased Fantastic Four film? Because those two are definitely in contention. At least Hulk had an earnest attempt at a unique formalist aesthetic going for it.
definitely not the best or top 5
XOVO you’re wrong but that’s okay, because opinions are like assholes, we all have them and they all stink. But yours stinks worse
Alonso Arana off the top of my mind with all these films: iron man 1, cap 2, spiderman 2, days of future past >>> IW
XOVO days of future past and spiderman 2 aren't part of the MCU just saying
In the movie they shoot Thanos in the face and the bullets bounce off of his bare skin
Nathaniel Goritski yep bucky's gun did nothing
Is that a criticism? Because he's been shown to be able to take quite a bit of damage.
It's a criticism of the 'criticism' in Onision's video where he thinks they should just shoot him in the face
@SpiritWolf2K Read your comment again, please, slowly.
@Simon Lu. Maybe, but that's the story we've been presented so
I disagree with the guys view on thanos not allowing Quill to kill Gamora, he was never going to allow it to happen he need Gamora for the location of the soul stone... he was just testing his character to see if his favourite child had made a good choice in the company she choose, and probably to see if Peter was worthy of his respect
Reece Martin He had no idea he needed to kill Gamora till he got to the planet though.
@@enumaelish9193 Right, but he also didn't know what planet it was while Gamora did. Kind of forgetting that part, aren't ya?
Reece Martin I wouldn't be surprised if the whole time he was taunting Quill he had already altered the gun.
5:10 “boring and predictable” *cut everyone literally screaming in the movie theatre after the end credits of shocked silence and the Internet completely blowing up (AND IS STILL BLOWING UP) after the bad guy WINS*
I know this is 5 months old but I feel like responding here. I don't like the argument that the movie was boring or predictable, but it wasn't really that hard to know that the good guys weren't going to win this one. The original title for Endgame was Infinity War Part 2 after all.
The guys a troll. I know this because of his RDR2 review.
*cough *cough also main character
@@obamasbestfriend3931 Some people thought the story of him collecting the Stones would take two movies. It's not a given.
I really want to see the Thanos-Copter.
Me too! And him and deadpool fighting over dating death
Same
Tbh
Me too
I can just imagine thanos arriving to the battle in the thanos copter
The thanos-copter is proof that thanos is allergic to electricity
The sequel to v i s i o n b a t
I think Mikey conflated “empathetic” with “good.” Someone can have an idea you can empathize and understand, but you certainly don’t have to agree with it. You’re not supposed to agree with him either and the story makes that pretty clear.
The writers and cast used that word over and over. I am not sure why CinemsSinsSins gives them a free pass.
#MikeyWasRight
Good or bad, Mikeys point was that they wanted us to empathize with the abuser. To humanize someone who was inhumane
Garvey Toure that’s the thing that is really bothering me though. Abusers *are* human and guess what? People are shitty and too complex to say that they’re humane or inhumane. People are capable of doing humane and inhumane things but that doesn’t make anyone inherently humane or inhumane. People are too complex to be put in boxes.
Some abusers don’t believe they’re evil or what they’re doing is abusive. Some were even abused themselves. Are they monsters because they grew up to be what they were shown? I’m genuinely asking because no one seems able to answer that because it’s pretty horrible to call someone a monster due to PTSD.
When an abusive parent hits their kid they are some who believe, they’re likely doing it out of love. Is it wrong? Yeah. I don’t think anyone will deny that, but the situation is too nuanced to say, “yep they’re just soulless creatures!” Because clearly the parent in this scenario doesn’t think they’re evil and will say that it’s “tough love” and it isn’t. It’s abuse
Too often people want to just disassociate completely with people like this and say, “Ah well they’re evil anyways!” It’s more complex than that and much more difficult than anyone wants to admit, because it’s easier to put them into the box of “evil.” The problem is more nuanced than anyone wants to admit and too often people are too scared to admit it. I’m not saying it’s right and I’m not saying we should have empathy, but I think we should have an understanding and that’s the word I should have used.
And honestly I’m just not sure what the people would want? A terrible cgi villain who we don’t get at all with zero redeeming qualities? Like what Ultron, the Dark Elf and the bad Justice League villain were all criticized for? I think it’s good that we finally branched out of these boring villains and made one that we can understand.
Except ultron did have redeeming qualities.
Thanos: **takes on huge explosions, fights Hulk, easily defeats Thor, breaks bits of Iron Man's armour with his bare hands, has Infinity Stones**
Onision: wHy dOn'T tHeY sHoOt HiM
Every Onision video can just be summed up with him screaming
Prim4LL every video he makes is just “im a banana” to me
@@TiberiusRex182 *_L O O K A T M E M O V E_*
3:52 is the exact argument I use when people smash on infinity war for how they handled Thor learning he didn't need his hammer in Ragnarok only to suddenly need a hammer.
He didn't need a hammer in IW, he needed an axe.
Right SinsSins? It has that pointy bit at the end, plus it literally (spoilers) pierces Thanos at the end.
@@LAZYNOOB-jf1oq
Blunt heavy thing? Good!
Sharp heavy thing? BETTER!
As well as this, Thor didn't need his hammer in ragnarok bc Asgard was still intact. There's even a line about it in ragnarok. "She draws her powers from Asgard, same as you" (from odin)
Scientist? That’s Black Panther’s sister. Did he watch it?
Gracekim1 he thinks the comics and the movies are the same
Gracekim1
Probably not, since he’s using a comic wiki for his research on Hulk.
Random Rogue One Extra oh dear 😰
Snoi Med true
There are moments T'Challa talks about designing the suit, and the train scene describes how he's aware of science by a large margin to take away the suits powers.
“I’m out of steam for this one. I know it’s not been very long, but-“
Reminds me of my ex. Heyoooo
>Everything Wrong
>Onision
If only he meant that to himself...
yuck, really dislike Onision
"I have nothing against Onision."
Hoooo boy...have you caught wind of all the grooming and abuse yet? I know you say you didn't know enough about him at the time to have anything against him, but...yikes. There's very good reason to have plenty against Onision.
i think this vid was before all that
You spelled criticize wrong. Dislike, unsub, retract views, expunge memory, reverse time and undo my discovery of this channel.
The way it was originally spelled is actually the British way of spelling criticise
deadsolute I’m not gonna be rude and say you’re dumb, but op’s comment is definitely sarcasm
Grim San Oh, my bad. I guess I tell sarcasm in a different way. Thanks for letting me know :)
deadsolute no problem
@@phantomdeadsoluteprophet5392
r/whooosh
3:20 Wait. A turd worm? I think you just solved the most hated line in Venom! Being an alien in the Marvel universe (*not the canonical MCU), Venom would know about the Chitari turds & they do fly.. in the wind.. So.. Yeah! Take that Venom haters!
They're actually chitari leviathons. I have no idea where he got the name "turd worm" from
@@aidan_harris lol I'm just having a bit of fun 😉😋 Besides, Stan Lee & Marvel can't help but use almost Seussian-level alliteration in their comic names & titles - Pepper Potts, J. Jonah Jamison, Wade Wilson, Heroes for Hire, Spectacular Spider-Man, Invincible Iron Man, etc. If they called anything "turd" it would probably be Terrible Turd Turtles. 😆
Venom's critics don't understand that he was like that in the original comics too.
christian crusader No I understand that Venom is a goof. Doesn’t change the fact that the movie is a cheap, poorly written, and poorly acted mess where Tom Hardy acts like a crackhead for nearly two hours (at least to me).
Aidan Harris it was a joke.
Mostly i agree. While I do feel that these people should be allowed to express their opinions without people attacking them, their opinions aren't opinions, they're being objectively wrong. Im not gonna get too much into this but I feel these people really need to fact check before they make the type of video you talk about in yours.
MrEevee I think good criticism would be how you don’t find it exciting instead of just trying to fake things in the movie
Opinions can be uninformed and based on ignorance
I believe if you put out any form of art or entertainment its open to criticism.
@@orlandovendetta685 yeah
@@keyanstoney1742 yes exactly
One thing I hate that people say about Infinity War is that the ending sucks because we expect the majority of the people who died to come back. Which pisses me off so much.
I hate it when people say it's an incomplete movie. It has a beginning, middle, and end. Just because the bad guy wins doesn't mean it's incomplete, even if they'll still be fighting Thanos in the next movie. For example, take Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. For all intents and purposes, Voldemort won that movie. That doesn't make it an incomplete film, despite the fact that they would continue to fight Voldemort in the films to come.
The ending of Infinity War loses its power because we KNOW Spiderman, Black Panther and the Guardians are coming back!
Their next movies are already in pre-production!
It made no sense to have them be amongst the dead when they clearly won't stay dead!
Scarlet Witch, Vision, ONE of the Guardians {preferably Drax}, Falcon and other secondary heroes vanishing would have been more than enough!
Infinity War TRIED to do an Empire Strikes Back and failed horribly! Because it went too far!
@Snehil Shrey My friend nearly cried during that scene. Lol
@@franohmsford7548 You completely miss the point of its ending. There is no reasoning with who dies and who doesn't when HALF OF THE POPULATION IN TBE UNIVERSE GETS WIPED OUT! What did you freaking expect?
You're the one missing the point - That ending loses all its power the instant Spiderman vanishes! Why? Because everyone in the whole wide world knows Spiderman: Homecoming is getting a SEQUEL! Spiderman is NOT going to die!
I expected the writers to not end the film in such a way where said ending loses all of its power!
Again - Look at Empire Strikes Back and how that kind of ending CAN be done WELL!
They could have wiped out ALL of the heroes in Infinity War and relied on entirely new heroes {Captain Marvel, Wasp etc.} to defeat Thanos and bring them all back in the next Avengers movie but that wouldn't have worked either even though it could still be called "logical" in-universe!
But they could just as easily have had NONE of the Avengers vanish at the end of Infinity War - Half the population doesn't equal Half the Avengers.
So your point could be made about it being logical in-universe no matter which Avengers vanished! My point is that it's not "Logical" in REALITY! It's not logical to destroy your own unhappy ending's power by having it affect a character that everyone knows is coming back!
Thanos: *literally had all but one of the Infinity Stones, which means it would be very easy for him to just block or deflect bullets*
Onion Boy: "WhY DiDN't THeY JusT ShoOt hiM?!?!?!"
How I criticise infinity war
oH tHErES tOo MAnY cHaRActERS AnD ITs tOo HyPED
I mean, the "too many characters" thing does kick in a little bit. How many times do we have to see a band of separate heroes somewhat stubbornly organizing in the face of a threat that they all immediately recognize? Because it happens four times in the film:
- At the beginning with Bruce Banner, Dr. Strange, and Iron-Man
- When Thor meets the GotG
- When Cap and his party meets up with Rhodey and Bruce Banner
- When Strange, Iron-Man, and Spidey meet the GotG
And that's not counting when Iron-Man and Spider-Man regroup with Strange on the ship or when Cap's group arrives in Wakanda. This is all on top of the fact that whether it could happen was the central premise of the first Avengers film. We've seen it. We don't really need these scenes because, with the exception of Iron-Man and Strange's interactions, they just mostly give off a false tension that almost immediately gets dissolved. It could've been handled better and without cutting any characters from the film.
That's just one criticism. There are others. It isn't a perfect film. I would argue that it isn't even the top five for the MCU. Still a great film though and part of what makes a film great is being able to observe its flaws without those flaws seriously damaging the whole package.
IllCaesar so you’re problem with the film is that characters moved around and met each other? WHAT?
@@yeahkeen2905 With the exception of the GotG meeting the earth heroes they all took too long. It only really gave us any insight into the characters once with Stark and Strange. Most of it wasn't plot relevant either. You could've taken each of these scenes and cut them in half and they'd be better. Even the scene with Thor.meeting the GotG should've been edited a little bit more just to make it a bit more punchy.
IllCaesar how did they take so long? I personally think that they were a good length. They were at most 5 minutes. Although, I do agree that they weren’t all plot relevant.
IllCaesar Except... They were all plot relevant... Let's look.
Bruce, Tony, and Strange: Notifying us of the stones for anyone who missed the movies and telling Tony about Thanos. Important.
Cap and his group: Talks about the two alternatives they have. Remove the stone or destroy the stone.
Thor and Guardians: Talks about Thanos' plan and the location of each stone (Only useless dialogue is Quill mocking Thor)
Cap and team in Wakanda: Discuss about executing plan until it's foiled
And yeah, you already said the Tony and Strange talk was relevant. But every scene you mentioned was plot relavant and drove it forward. Could It have been cut? Sure, but it was still necessary.
They also all give insight to character motives. Cap gave his motives, which was the driving point for pretty much his whole team. Including Black Panther. Quill in a funny way explained his motives when he first met the Avengers. Which was the guardians motives. Spider-Man did before he saved Strange, and Thor did when he spoke to Rocket. All scenes had character development and plot relavance. Too long is up to you if you needed all the info or not. I feel a few scenes could've been shorten or at least more interesting as well.
1. Peter Quill tried to shoot Gamora and Thanos turned it into bubbles. Owned
Thanos's view on population control isn't new & it isn't dumb. It's known as the Malthusian Trap & it's been heavily researched & debated among philosophers, scientists & economists for decades. It is a deeply complex issue if one bothers to look into it.
There is a video on UA-cam called "Of course Thanos is evil, but he's also wrong" Overpopulation isn't a fucking thing, and it sure as hell can't destroy a civilization.
EDIT: slight correction, it's called "Obviously Thanos is evil. He's also wrong." My bad; this should make it a bit easier to find.
Natural selection pretty much covers all the basics of over population.
I'm not saying whether his "solution" to the problem is right or wrong, I'm only saying that it isn't "stupid" or "shallow," like many claim in their criticisms. It's easy to believe that Thanos genuinely sees his plan as the only way to ensure the propagation of life in the universe.
@@ChaosRaych He. Is. Wrong. Look, when there ain't shit for a population to sustain itself, it either drops (eek, I know, but it's hardly apocalyptic), or it ramps up its tech sector to deal with this, leading to arcologies, artificial lands for farming, space habitation, and things of that nature. Overpopulation just isn't a problem. Now, I know that Titan suffered this problem, but it seems to have been destroyed by either war or a natural disaster that they just couldn't deal with, maybe on account of overpopulation, but overpopulation couldn't have possibly been the sole cause. I mean, the fucking planet's gravity was effected, for Christ's sake.
@@kelbybrewer2038 he isn't wrong though you said it yourself baby a population drop off he essentially does it on a larger scale so people arnt starving to death or getting beaten to death so someone else can eat it was quick easy and painless random so no chance of biases he made a sacrifice to save the other half
I WATCHED the film theory video, actually. It actually said "even if it DID work, killing people isn't a solution", so there was never an implication that he was right, clickbait aside, lol.
Judging by covers.
Well, the title of the Film Theory video is "Thanos is right" so it is clickbait. The video is misleading if MatPat titles it one thing and comes to a completely different conclusion.
GenericGaming before watching the video, people thought Matpat meant that he is morally right whereas the video explains that he might be TECHNICALLY right, as in mathematically/scientifically it could work but MatPat conclude that it's morally wrong but never explains why because I guess most people believe the same and it's not a philosophy channel. I guess you didn't even watch the video or you don't understand the point of that video, but I wouldn't say it was misleading since the title never says "Thanos is morally right" and then concludes the contrary. According to the video, FROM A CERTAIN PERSPECTIVE, Thanos could be right. So really, the only clickbait thing about it is that the absence of uncertainty in the title.
Obi - what ummm the title is still right. Unless you assume that Matpat is going to argue that Thanos is morally right, the conclusion doesn’t add much to the original premise and the title. Again the title isn’t wrong, your assumptions are. Why would mat pat talk about morality anyways? That’s not the purpose of his channel. He discusses maths and stats from the beginning of the video and explains from the start that Thanos might be right in that regard. *The title is not a question that he is going to answer at the end of the video, it’s a statement that he proves throughout the video* .He just ended by opening the debate on an other perspective that has to do with morals and ethics but that’s outside the purpose of his channel and maybe even his qualifications. Even without that last sentence, everything in the video confirms the title. You don’t really need a conclusion.
Did you even watch the video before commenting all that?
Obi - what « people want to click on it because of the title » well duh Einstein, that’s why videos have titles. A title isn’t clickbait simply because it makes people click because every title make people click. It’s’ clickbait if it’s deceiving, and in this case Mat Pat only deceived you if you made assumptions about his video and his content. If you know the channel, you know he doesn’t discuss philosophy and ethics but stats, maths and stuff like that so obviously that’s how he was going to approach Thanos plan, not regarding the ethics of his plan. It’s not his fault if you didn’t know that.
A title isn’t misleading because YOU assume stuff about it and YOU CHOOSE not to watch till the end. It’s not Mat Pat’s fault if people did that. And again the video wasn’t about the morals and ethics of his plan so he didn’t need to conclude about that and you didn’t need to watch till the end to understand the point of the video. He just added another perspective at the end, that’s it, but it’s not the point of the video.
Obi - what I mean, how else are they supposed to decide whether to watch the video?
Onision's criticism makes no sense because it isn't genuine, it was just a quick way to rake in views for himself
@Wilo Polis
As someone's familiar with Onision for a decade(I did it to myself, and I regret it...) this does not surprise me...
@@DemonicRemption As someone who only found about Onion boy a year ago, this also doesn't surprise me.
@@koolmckool7039
Wow... That's amazing how you've only known about him for a year and you're not surprised by his immeasurable stupidity... But then again I was in the same boat once... So I get it...
@@DemonicRemption After the Paul brothers, this kind of thing doesn't surprise me.
Sympathetic: The character is hashtagrelatable to you on a personal level.
Empathetic: You get where they are coming from even though you might diagree with them.
YOU used the wrong Word, not the directors.
No he didn’t
You've got the subjects mixed up. Empathy is the ability to understand where someone else is coming from, even though you may disagree, and sympathy is when you try to relate it to your own perspective. However (and this is somewhat ironic), _empathetic_ doesn't mean that you get where they are coming from, empathetic means that that person _possesses the ability to empathise._ Saying that Thanos is "empathetic" is suggesting that _Thanos himself_ is capable of understanding where other people are coming from. It does not suggest that *you* can understand where Thanos is coming from.
Sympathetic, though, does relate more to you than to the person it is attached to (English is inconsistent like that). Technically "sympathetic villain" isn't strictly correct, because most people are *empathising* with the villain rather than sympathising with them, but people use sympathetic more readily because it refers to the audience relating to the character, whereas empathetic refers to the character relating to other characters around him.
The more correct term would probably be something like, empathisable or "easy to empathise with". We don't really have a good word for it, hence sympathetic is the closest alternative often used.
@@SneezyReviews No I think that empathy is where you try to relate someone to your own perspective. Let's go back to the basics. The etymology of "empathy" is "empátheia" which means "in" and "passion" respectively, which refers to the "inner passion," or more subtlety, "inner feelings." So from the etymology of the word, you can see how empathy refers to relating someone to your own perspective.
If you take a look at the types of empathy in psychology, the most common known one is "cognitive empathy," which coincides more with the basic definition of empathy: putting yourself into someone else's shoes; and hence the person who empathizes subsequently understands *why* someone is in their dire situation. And that's where Jay actually mixed up the terms.
@@studentsteph I don't disagree with the root of the word empathy. I'm saying that empathETIC refers to the ability of the person to empathise. Not your ability to empathise with the person. Look this up on google if you don't believe me.
@@SneezyReviews Ohh my apologies for the misunderstanding 😅
Its not really a suprise that Onionsan talks shit. All he can ever do
>I don't have anything against onision
trust and believe there's a lot to have against him.
How Not To Criticize Infinity War...
*_Don't._*
No movie is above criticism. Don't be a fanboy.
Don’t not criticize Infinity War? So criticize it?
Cosmic *Do not
Spider-Man’s death went on too long
But he said how *not* to so I think you're both on the same page?
For when cisinema sins does ifinity war you should collab with Th3Birdman
Infinity war on one channel and avengers 4 on the others. Ultimate crossover and perfectly balanced as all things should be
LionWithAGun that’s not really a collab. More of them just choosing to not do a specific video.
@@yeahkeen2905 Wells it they cover both sins videos together in the same video than it is a collab
@@LionWithAGun please no. The Birdman is trash...
@@steveweigner6941 What? WHAT? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!!!
You spelt criticise wrong. Dislike, unsub, retract views, expunge memory, reverse time and undo my discovery of this channel.
:)
Original comment *cough cough*
thats not wrong
Lmfaooo
hearing “i have nothing against onision” is so weird lmao
I hope you remember us early boys from the first few hundred subs, since you're blowing up and all
Woah man, didn't expect you to see my comment, glad to see that you're still reading these even though you have so many. You know, if you ever needed help editing your videos I could help you out. I really enjoy your videos and if it made it possible for you to upload more, I'd be happy to do it for free
I still try to read all my comments, and its always nice to see ones like yours. I don't really need help editing at the moment, its the writing thats more time consuming for me. Plus I'm not totally comfortable with getting unpaid help like that, nor do I have the money to pay an editor, but still, thanks so much for the offer.
@@JayExci yeah of course, I'm happy to see your page getting so big, I have a different account that I won't name (because I hate to self advertise) and I understand how hard it is especially in the beginning. I'm a big fan, so I'll keep watching in the future, and I hope you can keep growing on here, because you are one of the good channels on UA-cam
So when I got here there were 420 likes.
First of all, noice.
Secondly, I'm sorry I've ruined the chance for everyone else to see such a number because this video is so good, funny, and full of great quality, that I had to add another like onto it, boosting the number of likes to at least 421. It had to be done. What did it cost? Everything.
Noice reference at the end
When film theory said that thanos was right they meant that his plan would work not that it was okey to do it. It is a really entertaining video and they use the black plague as a model of this situation, I recommend you to watch it.
I agree
"Why didn't they use a snipper to kill Thanos?"
(literally a scene where Thanos uses the gauntlet to deflect bullets)
So is cinemasins waiting for avengers 4 to be closer to premier to make their video on infinity war or could they finally not sin a movie?
No movie can't be sinned. You just carefully edit out plot points and then say "I'm confused!"
...and "boner".
@@murcurialmuroid5850 or sin something that is said then add an ooohhhh when it comes back later but still add another sin
@@LionWithAGun Or say "PlOtHoLe DiNg" anytime something isn't blatantly explained to the viewer
Alternatively, say "ExPoSiTiOn DiNg" whenever something is explained for clarity
@Snoi Med Yes, but some if their more mentally challenged viewers take it 100% seriously.
@Snoi Med But, unlike other satirical properties (like The Onion), they mix slightly wrong nitpicks, "jokes" disguided as actual criticism, flat-out lies ablut the plot, and actual, valid criticism. Wich makes some people think that what they're saying is true.
Watch this video if you have a spare 35 minutes, it goes in-depth on why cinemasins is making bad content:
ua-cam.com/video/ELEAsGoP-5I/v-deo.html
These videos brighten my day.
I genuinely walked out of infinity war saying Thanos is the Villain I've empathised with most out of all marvel films, even without seeing the behind the scenes footage, and I still think I do empathise, genuinely (I admit freely I may be a little insane/depressed and that may colour my opinion here)
I didn't see the perspective in the millionaires and 'geniuses' that were ironman's enemies, captain had the nazis and his brainwashed friend, Thor was opposed with a giant suit of armor, the aether, and Hella none of which i could see in myself, guardians Ronan? Egor? Nope couldnt see their perspective. I'm running out of marvel movies, ant man another billionaire, hulk vs the military, black pantha well that was another power mad person, Loki in avengers and Ultron well they just wanted power, doctor strange had Kaecilious who was just as insane as thanos but has a far less seemingly thought out plan, and finally (i think) spiderman with Vultcher who might be the only relateable villain given his scope is so small scale though it is all about greed again and I kind of don't understand greed. I can maybe sympathise with their objectives greed, power, domination, money, recognition where those objectives exist, I can see and understand the.
But Thanos in my interpretation doesn't see himself as greedy and he doesn't want anything extra for himself all he sees is suffering and he wants to help and through his insanity has seen a solution, his methods might be extreme but I can genuinely see a lot of myself in him and a lot of him in me.
I'm not necessarily on the "thanos really did nothing wrong" camp but I have opinions and ideas that might not be as extreme as Thanos's but are certainly on the Thanos end of "normal"
Lmao you ain't insane alot of people agree with thanos even his philosophy of killing to save resources has actually been done in history and has been debated about for centuries.
There's this guy called Thomas Malthus, maybe you've heard of him. A lot of people talk about the kind of plan Thanos has.
Ultron thought humanity would destroy the planet, so he had to wipe out humanity. He wanted attention, but not power. Killmonger wasn't about power either, he was driven by revenge and radicalism. Loki wants to create chaos and to outgrow Thor's shadow.
Ultron wanted power and control it wasnt about killing humanity cause he could have made us extinct far faster than the time it takes to print a few thousand clones and float a city, if it was about extermination hed never have let any human stand in his way for a second and there'd have been no reason to imprison black widow. Attention maybe comes alongside power but subjugation of a significant amount of the population through fear that hed cause a life ending catastrophe suits his MO much better and so power
Killmonger wanted power too sure he had other motivations wrapped up in it but hed been left to roam the streets on the bottom rung of society and troden on time and again, he craved power to right those injustices but he wanted power over those who wronged him in wakanda and the rest of the world.
Loki doesnt necessarily want chaos hes shown time and again he just wants power and wwhen he has power hes content, in Thor he wanted to prove he could rule, avengers he decided to settle for earth if not asgard, ragnorok he is Oden for a time and seems happy with that, he then wants to oust Jeff Goldblum as ruler of Sakar, takes leadership of the revolution and seeing that he wont get to rule for much longer he takes the most powerful object from the vaults, its only that he witnessed horror that he stood up to Thanos realising that there woukd be no opportunity ffor power if he succeeded.
And vulture may have been slighted but in the end his motivations ran away with him, he got his pound of flesh and then he put dangerous weapons on the same streets upon which his family lived and lusted for money and power. His family may have gotten a little richer but at the cost of putting them at risk, he stopped thinking about them though risking his own life to flatten spiderman and to attack the jet for more loot.
Perfectly serviceable motives for a good story but not ones i can really epathise with.
You didn't mention how you felt about Zemo.
I think the only criticism I have is why Bucky is shooting the invaders with primitive bullets.
For instance; Shuri could have thrown together a Vibranium machine gun that shoots like what Bucky is used to, but looks a little more sci-fi.
(Also, the team working on props could have had a blast with designing it, and I'd totally pay $250 worth of filament to 3D print it.)
Ryan Hovey whose to say those weren’t vibranium bullets.
Another point on that "Killing Loki is a waste" thing. Who here actually believes that Loki is dead/going to stay dead? Because I don't. Even if Tom leaves the series they can adapt Kid Loki. Or Lady Loki. Or that one time Loki more or less regenerated and became the God of Stories.
Point is, I don't think the character of Loki is going anywhere.
He is frost giant so if he wasn't killed he could probably survive the cold void of space.
They rushed that "death" and hulks beat down for the sake of establishing thanos.
Mfw people still going through the first stage of loss; denial
But hes dead and if they add another type of loki he wont be the loki we knew so yeah hes dead
I see Shaun and hbomb in there. I thought that you were sounding familiar, they are definitely are influencing your comedic takes in a good way.
Only started checking out your vids today and landed here and honestly it's refreshing that you talk about things in such a logical and balanced manner. On the people who believe thanos was right, honestly it's one of those things where I can't discern if its real or not because it's impossible to tell the parody from the reality. But I've seen people believe in more abhorrent things for more abhorrent reasons so it's rather easy to believe that at least one in 10 people who says it means it, I'd rather not believe that though but eh. Either way well made video, I like your work a lot. You seem level headed and pretty chill which is nice.
That Onision guy seems like a reeeeeaaal tool. Contrarian for no reason.
I'm so glad your channel is taking off and I applaud you for your hard work Jay. Nice
The only way I can CORRECTLY criticize that movie is the part where Wong opens a portal for one of Thanos's minions to fall through. He shuts the ring causing for the minions hand to be sliced off.
The weapon Thanos is using is a gauntlet.
That is on his hand.
Wong cut off a hand, with a portal.
Thats is the ONLY thing wrong with the movie.
"Infinity War is bad because the movie was lagging and dropping frames, and also the kids in the theater were annoying" was very good and made me laugh. Tip of the hat to whoever that is, I suppose.
They should've kept Thanos' motivation to woo Death. I would've made him twisted.
9:41
I'm not sure why I didn't notice this when I first watched FilmJoy's video, but it's interesting that he included Film Theory's video there. As you noted, the title is clickbaity. Strangely, a lot of people commenting on Film Theory's video didn't seem to watch the video, but MatPat concluded the video by saying that Thanos was actually wrong, especially from a moral standpoint.
Spar10Leonidas yea but it isn’t clickbait. Film Theory makes science videos (at least the narrated by Matpat). So anyone who saw the title would know that it’s probably going to be based on the statistics of population growth. Him ending the video saying that Thanos is wrong from a moral viewpoint isn’t clickbait as it wasn’t the major part of his video.
Don't worry Jay, Cinemasins will make an infinity war video eventually.
I just subbed to ur channel, this was well crafted, thanks for an honest opinion and showing the flaws in others "reviews", these people really don't understand Marvel films, lol...
When I saw that clickbaity tittled video made by Film Theory, I disagreed with it because of how society would colaps and more people would commit suicide. Then the reveal that it was a thought experement
Matpat tends to view things from a scientific standpoint rather than a morality standpoint. Plus his thumbnail wasn't click bait since he did prove that Thanos was right from a scientific point of view instead of an moral point of view. Hell even Matpat briefly mentioned that what Thanos was doing was wrong from the moral standpoint and said he could've just double the resources.
He also said that this is the wrong approach because people would be pressured to have more kids rverting the population back to what it was before, thus rendering his plan completely usless
that's also true.
@@marshallseldon42001. Thanos can't create things with the Infinity Gauntlet, he can create Temporary illusions with the Reality stone but that's it.
2. Thanos was teaching the Universe a lesson, So creating more resources even if he could would basically be rewarding the universe rather than punishing it.
3. The resources would run out quicker than a population would regain, and where would these resources be kept?
Didn't know this channel used to be called CinemaSinsSins
(1:00) Onision has some issues with how he expresses things, and does do plenty of logical fallacies in some videos, and I also think he has no interest in learning from his mistakes. - Imagine a rebellious teenager, or something. Far from the worst people on UA-cam, of course ... we still have Brooks spewing _no_ bullshit after all.
Aww man! I thought this was going to be the genuine cinema sins critique video. Lol. Guess I still have to wait.
5:17 BOI IS THAT A SHAUN VIDEO I SEE? YOU LEGEND
(10:10) Removing half the population randomly to reduce the amount of resources used, will cause random people who manage these resources to be removed, meaning there will also be reduced amount of resources as well.
Lmao... Infinity War is so good that no one could think of any good point to criticise it.
Thanos I would say maybe nebular could have stopped quill from punching thanos
AYS Mr_Armyourself And I would say it was all part of Dr Strange's plan/outcome for the Avengers to win.
@@phantomdeadsoluteprophet5392 It's kinda clever how they wrote the movie with the doctor strange outcome thing. It pretty much makes them invincible to critisism.
J Arnett Yeah, the Russo brothers played it smart. Lol
Thanos there are problems with the movie but it’s really small problems
Great stuff as usual! When you do Avengers 4 next year, you should spend more time on a YT Channel., break it down more. Do a couple of videos on A 4.
Yay! another person who thinks that when we say things like "we can empathize with Thanos", or "Thanos is not evil", we mean that Thanos' plan is a good one and that mass genocide is the answer to all problems.
when we say that Thanos is not evil, we don't mean that his actions aren't evil, but that his motivation to perform those actions is good. the definition of evil is, "profoundly immoral and wicked". an evil person is someone who lacks morals. Thanos' plan might be terrible, but he still has a moral compass. it just happens to be pointing the wrong way.
The second guy said IW was worse than any marvel movie and that includes Thor 2 bro just get out there's the door LMAO wait he must be a troll
Heyy, dat was my video at 7:39.
Ok
Oh shit..... I literally just found out about this video. And it's been out for so long lmao. I'm glad I'm featured but I loved the hell out of Infinity War. The video was just a satrical one taking the piss out of CinemaSins. It's also in the continuity of a story I was doing on my channel. I found this site a long time ago listing reasons why "Infinity War sucked" so I just stole some of those points and added some stupid ones. It's so funny I found this video through my analytics. This is awesome so cheers for including me! Maybe for the wrong reasons... 😂
My dad actually had an incredible criticism of Infinity war
“Too much talking and not enough fighting”
I’m sorry,that was a joke
Your content is terrific from what I’ve seen after discovering you just a few hours ago, and watching your videos since.
While I wouldn’t expect this of nearly anyone else on the platform, based on your work, and ostensible motives and values, I think you’ll understand my compulsion to make the following point.
The literal, root-based definition of “decimate” is to reduce by 10%; or in this context, destroy 10%.
I’m not sure if you’re aware, but even Marvel is referring to the snap, in canon, as “The Decimation.”
So even Marvel and the mouse house have seemingly fallen prey to the bastardization of words in modern culture.
One of the reasons I enjoy your content thus far, is I find you to be of like mind, and to have similar standards for decency, excellence and general acceptability.
It’s genuinely refreshing to see someone who clearly has a sense of decency, and respect for the proper use of language.
So I know you’ll understand that while I don’t mean to be rude, I have to point out it is you who’s made the booboo this time.
You’re so good, though, that even in the midst of misusing the word, you were still making a great point regarding the reverberations of the sudden vanishing of those taken by the snap, so while I can’t “give it a pass,” as they say- since the whole point here is to preserve the language and culture, and not incentivize it’s downfall.
However, it is a testament to your talent, that even in the midst of decimating my enjoyment of this video, you were still doing very good work overall, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to recognize both of these juxtaposed elements.
Apologies if I’ve come off as rude. I’m just a stickler for such things, and felt you’d appreciate my point of view.
Great work. God bless. Subbed.
Personally, I think you come over as absolutely lovely.
But you're mistaken about the meaning of the word "decimate". Look it up in any dictionary. I know that the root "Dec" relates to ten, but language moves on. No one complains that "sinister" actually means left-handed, even though that's the historical root of the word. The only way that language can be preserved is by stopping people from speaking it, and that would be rather a shame.
Thanos' smart version of a plan would have been:
1. Sterilize 80% of all sentient life.
2. Create magical celestial objects near every star system with sentient life, which would develop into replacement stars upon that star running out of fuel, stabilizing the planets for further billions of years
3. Introduce massive asteroids full of nuclear or infinity stone-powered materials
4. Introduce every population, 1 at a time, to the power of the infinity gauntlet, and to the science of high tech power sources.
5. Destroy half the universe's currencies (both physical and digital) instead, except for primitive societies that still use precious metals.
6. Do all of this within 1 week thanks to the power of the time stone. Never age thanks to the reality and soul stones.
7. Simultaneously convince every person in the universe to accept peace, love, and vulnerability of their own identity, letting others help in their lives.
8. Imbue every life form with higher intellect, eradicating bigotry and religion.
9. Eradicate everyone's diseases, permanent physical damage, and mental ailments. Kill all mosquito-like creatures.
Thanos is lazy and lacks creativity.
Oh my God. I think this is the first time I have ever seen someone use the word "decimate" correctly.
Thanks for that CSS.
I bet he knows enough about onision now to not like him
Casual green Dorito just kinda chillin in the BG.
I’m subbing. I like your logical approach. You rock.
"Why don't you send Seal Team 6 to go deal with Thanos" *Shows Bucky's shots doing nothing against him, shows Stark's nanobot super weapons doing jack squat, shows many things more fucking powerful than a bunch of army guys with guns doing nothing against The Mad Titan* "Hm... Yeah I stick by my decision"
Oh hey your a fan of terrible writing advice that is awesome
Where did he mentioned terrible writing advice?
When he was going through the home page one of the videos there was a terrible
@7:00 yo who made that poster ? can somebody explain why spiderman's torso is rotated 180° legs facing the opposite direction? 😭 and who gave him2 left arms , the left left arm looks dislocated as shit
9:26
*notices r/furry_irl* OwO
CinemaSinsSins is a furry confirmed!
Nah fam. He just browses for the memes.
That's how it begins.
You start with just the normal memes.
Then you peak into the cropped yiff memes and within a couple of days you start to like them.
Later you get curious and decide to check out the "sauce."
After that you get interested in it more and more aND *BAM!*
You now have an account on both e6 and FA and browsing them for at least an hour a day!
Please. Don't make the same mistakes as me.
"It's just for the memes, okay!?"
*2 weeks later*
ÒwÓ Reggie is best husbando
Hoo boy. I've never been so early to a good video before. Well done, CSS! Another great review!
1:24 onion.
06:02 this was just brilliant, this entire bit right here
a sniper would be able to kill Thanos
pretty easily, actually
just because thanos can punch with more force than a gun doesn't mean he can take a bullet
that is quite simple and poor powerscaling
if you were to punch thanos with the strength of a gun it wouldn't phase him
but the difference comes in the sharpness of the bullet and its piercing ability
thanos has flesh and skin like most humanoid organisms in the MCU
flesh and skin can be cut, using significantly less force than you'd need to do equal damage to the body with a blunt attack
we see an example of this when thor arrives in Wakanda and attacks thanos with stormbreaker, the axe side of stormbreaker's head, the sharp part, pierces thanos' torso and nearly kills him
although, i wont count this too seriously because stormbreaker is a magical and powerful asguardian relic
an example of my point is that every entity that has significant experience with thanos that tries to kill him uses a sharp object
(loki tries to stab thanos in the throat, instead of taking the attack like he does with many others he intentionally uses the space stone)
(gamora uses her blades on thanos in her reality stone induced fantasy sequence and isnt shocked when it actually works)
more examples:
(in the scene in which thanos comes for the mind stone, if you look closely you can see him using the space stone to do away with War Machine's bullets instead of tanking them)
ua-cam.com/video/yBsw7M4XuUw/v-deo.html at 4:09
(WHEN BUCKY SHOOTS THANOS HE SHOOTS THANOS ON THE GAUNTLET AND ON THE ARMOUR, NOT THE SKIN, THAT'S WHY THE BULLETS BOUNCE)
same video as the war machine thing, a few seconds later
Onision's idea would only work if the sniper caught Thanos off guard though
@@Fezaki did you even read my whole comment
i literally address the bucky situation :/
@@mlgmelon yeah i just couldn't be bothered to read the whole thing
@@Fezaki lol
The hulk punches WAY harder than the force of a bullet.
MLG MELON he took punches from the hulk. No bullet would hurt him.
Wait didnt thanos punch captain america in thee face? Wouldnt that just deform the shit out of him?
0 dislikes, congrats.
Nvm one loser put a dislike
Great video. Didn't Bucky shoot Thanos at the end a few times, to no avail?
More Facecam!
Thanos' plan is very similar to the bad guy in the latest Mission Impossible. People will wake up and not make the same mistakes again. .The bigger the disaster, the bigger the peace that follows it.
Are you a fellow fur? URLs at the top of the screen at 9:24? If so yay!
Can't say I am. I do like the memes though and I hear that's how it starts. That said it has been like a year since I've started my healthy appreciation of fur memes and I don't really have any desire to make a fursona or anything so maybe it will end here.
For as long as you don't click the "sauce" link, you should be OK.
God, I wish I wasn't so curious about everything all the time...
Furries deserve to have their heads stomped on until their brains have stained the pavement.
9:17 the irony of saying the plan isn't just going to get rid of 1/2 the population, but is going to decimate (kill 1/10) of a society.
Yes yes, we all know the meaning of the word "Decimate" has changed over time but..... still ironic and amusing :P
good lord, you're cute!
The last point you made is the exact same justification people give for every abusive relationship ever.
Eww and ega the last airbender pleaasse
You spelled criticize right! Subbed, liked, favorited, notifications on, followed on twitter, followed on instagram, friend requested on facebook, top 8 on myspace.
how is that so magical? do you just really hate the british alternative spelling?
why is molester onion saying things about movies?
I have seen one actuall valuable critique to this movie, and it came from a friend of mine: why after being safely in a quinjet going to meet war machine didn't wanda finish fixing vision's injury if she started doing that during the battle? that resulted in him partially injured during the entire movie, and for no reason at all. not that it made that much of a difference because injured or not he would still have to stay laying down at shuri's table for some time and then get stabbed again in the battle of wakanda, when fighting with steve, but stil... they were sitting on a quinjet. just finish patching him up
(i know it's nitpicking but after i was told this, i never could overlook this detail again)
Fan of the channel and I enjoyed the video! I have to disagree on the "Thanos did nothing wrong" thing, though. I get that the subreddit is a joke and I'm sure not many people think it's a good idea in the sense that they find it morally acceptable and/or actually want it to happen but I've seen several people I know make the argument that Thanos "had a point" or that his plan made sense on a pragmatic level. I get the impression FilmJoy's concern isn't that he believes people are on board with massive genocide, it's that some of them don't bother to apply any critical thought to recognize that, even if you set morality aside, Thanos' plan doesn't make any sense.
That said, I still thought Infinity War was awesome. I just wish Thanos' motivation would have been a bit more rational. I get that he's the "mad Titan" and all but they don't really portray him as mad in this film, just a pragmatist who can be cruel. He's also portrayed as intelligent, which makes it harder to suspend my disbelief when neither he nor the other supposedly intelligent characters who have dialogue with Thanos ever address the flaws in this plan.
Thanos' thesis and plan are insane and wrong and absurd, but if you look at history and the sorts of ideas that have led to murdering millions...it's par for the course.
In way I don't' think his plan really "matters," it's that it's not the comic books' "in love with the physical manifestation of the concept of Death" idea, that was a step too far. I'm curious if there will be any more exploration of his "Plan" in A4, and if we'll learn that Thanos is actually lying or mistaken about what happened to his home planet.
5:14
OH
He watches Shaun
I watch Shaun
I feel an instant connection
I’m sorry for that