I am 63 years old and have been riding since the age of 8. I spent my High School and College days working in Motorcycle shops. I've had more motorcycles than most riders. Too many for this old mind to remember but close to fifty. I ordered a 2022 z900rs June 1. The first day an order could be placed and it delivered the end of September. This bike is hands down the most fun bike of the dozens I have owned. I can ride all day in comfort finding joy in each passing mile. I can afford any bike I want and wouldn't change my choice. If your thinking about a purchase DON'T. Just do it!
I've talked to a few people now that have the Z900RS and they all seem to love them. It certainly sounds like it is worth the bit of sticker shock that comes with them. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
I just paid 12800 for my 50 th anniversary z900 rs. It was worth every penny. The whole dealership watched the unboxing. The techs wanted to buy it. I get thumbs up from passing cars. And I've been riding kawis since 1972. So its kawis tribute to me. I'm now living my dream.
I'm piece by piece adding oem kawi accessories. A gold oil cap! Haa. Matches the wheels. 64 bucks what ta hell. The oem cover is ok but doesn't cover the front wheel below the fender. The dash trim is nice. It contrasts the turn signal indicators . The engine slider was expensive but is chiseled to match the turn signal housings. Thinking about the center stand next.
Just looked at a 2021 z1000 (2006 R1 my old bike) and ended up being torn between a 2022 z900rs and the Z1000. The fit and finish on the z900rs is exceptional, that’s where the money is, especially against the z900 which I wrote off almost immediately (value for money of the z900 not in question). The z900rs it just feels “proper” so to speak. I walked from the shop without buying either I was so torn! But a couple of days on now and I’m going back tomorrow for that RS!
I bought a 2018 Z900RS hold over bike in September 2019. Got an unbelievable price. This past year I had the ecu flashed, replaced stock suspension with K-tech front and rear, replaced stock seat, added color matched bikini fairing. replaced stock tires with Michelin Power 5. Its an awesome bike in the twisties now.
@@jimmyhamm6041 Ivans performance did the flash. I also did a couple airbox mods to get more air to the motor. Makes a little more power but to get the most you'd have to replace the entire exhaust system which I did not do. The flash smooths out the power delivery. Ivans web site spells out other things he adjusts to make the bike run smoother. I like the results, I think its worth the cost.
I have a deposit on a 2022 Z900RS SE, supposedly the only one my dealership is getting. I tried to convince myself to save some dough and go with the regular Z900 SE, but the RS spec is just so much sexier. It doesn't have to be retro per sey, but I am not a fan of the alien transformer look that a lot of bikes call "modern". As for the price difference, well, metal is more expensive than plastic. A nice analog watch might not be as high tech as a digital one, but there's a reason a Rolex costs more than a Casio. If you are having trouble justifying the price, try doing what I did: selling a CVO Harley for it. It will seem like an astonishingly good value for the money, lol. 😂😂😂
I completely understand - the "futuristic robot bug" look takes a little getting used to. I think the retro bikes are more pleasant to look at in general. When you put your deposit down on the 2022 Z900RS SE, did you get a timeline on when the dealership expects to have it? There seem to be massive shipping delays right now and I'm curious if Kawasaki is as far behind as some of the other manufacturers. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@@WaltInPA They originally told me it would be here in January, now it is March, we will see if they stick to that time table. As long as it is here by May, I will be happy. They do already have a 2022 Z900RS Cafe on the floor, as well as like 2 or 3 other 2022 Kawasaki's, so they are getting some bikes out, but the SE will be a little later.
I've been touring on my '18 Cafe for about 4 years and love it; light, nimble and fast, especially up in the mountains. You have to be in great riding shape to do 500+ mile days, especially in weather, so definitely not suited for everyone. Enjoy your CBR. So many bikes, so little money!!!
I think you have missed the point of the Z900RS. Your focus on the price is irrelevant, for most of us it is a less of an issue. I remember well as a young man desperately wanting a Z1 but couldn’t afford either the bike or the insurance. Now with the opportunity to buy a modern version version of one of the most iconic motorcycles ever made it had to be done. Enjoy your Honda 650, and keep wanting a Z900RS.
I have a 2018 Z900RS and I have to agree with your sentiments about pricing. However, I've found that ALL bikes are priced high these days and if I wanted something more improved, modern (whatever) it would cost me considerably more. It made more sense for me to upgrade the bike (rear shock and other stuff).
I think we're in a weird time right now. Due to supply chain issues and chip shortages, new bikes are being delayed. Because of the delays, the cost of pre-owned motorcycles is rising. One of the reasons I'm trading in my Honda is because the trade-in value is a couple hundred dollars less than I paid for it 2 years ago. Now its a waiting game - I'm being told 1st Quarter 2022 is the best timeline they can give me on my order. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment 👍
Don’t talk yourself out of it , it’s a great bike , love mine . Worth the money for its looks alone . Sound is great too . Comfy . Fast enough for a naked too
The prices only drop by about $1000 a year on the used models, at least here in Calif., so they seem to hold their value farily well, like you said, they are not a high demand bike. After looking around at the used ones, I ended up getting a new 2022, the drive out was exactly $14K even.
With the scarcity of new 2022 models these days (across all brands) , $14k out the door sounds like you did pretty well 👍 I've been keeping my eye out on my local dealers pre-owned inventory and over the past 2 years I've only ever seen one 2018 Z900RS Cafe become available. Great looking bikes but either they aren't supe popular or people love them and hold onto them long-term. Thanks for watching and commenting
In a similar vein... I love the 2022 Triumph Speed twin, but they really, really need to launch a performance edition. Great video, stunning location too 👌
@@Fee.1 They've got the Thruxton R, I've never ridden it but from all I've read about it it's a very different set up and feel. I think the Utopia for Triumph will be a Speed Twin R and hopefully a rethink on the colour scheme, e.g. the Brietling special edition which had an awesome finish.
The deals are out there, you just have to find them. I bought a new 2020 leftover for $7,999 I had to go 500 miles to get it but deals are out there. It was a sweet ride back home.😊😊
Great and honest review.But no motor bike buy makes sense its a 100% emotional buy and that's the beauty of it.This starts when you first notice motor bikes as a young boy.
I'm with you on the price. $12K is a lot and then the fees are just a killer. I am riding a beautiful, new, 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 Mark 2 which I paid $6,700 plus only about $500 in fees, license, etc. It has everything I want except 100 horsepower.
I sold my int 650 v.2018 last month, it's very nice and reasonable price, it's the best in same market segment...for me 100hp is enough ...and it's not design for speedy rider.
This Dude is Nutty. Here is a video with a Z900rs and Z800rs se side by side comparison. I don't like all the bronze and gold, but I do like the hard candy yellow. I wished that U S. imported Z900rs models would get Spoked wheels like the Honda CB1100. But I see those wheels can be ordered from Japan and all the brake rotors bolt right up in the same pattern as the aluminum wheels. That's money I would easily spend. Now if Kerker was still around. A Black 4 into 1 performance exhaust would be AWESOME. Cannnn I Get An Amen?
I stopped in at my local dealer last week and right inside the door was a 2022 Z900RS with a sold sticker on it. It was the first brand new one I've gotten to see in person - it is a beautiful bike.
I have a 2020 Cafe version and I absolutely love it. Picked it up last year for 10K and it was brand new. These bikes maybe a little overpriced but what the heck? It's Only Money.
Chris from England here. The bikes in the U.S. are much the same in dollars as they are in pounds in U.K. ive just orerded my z900rs se £13300. Drink it why its fizzy man 👍
Great Video Mate. I too love the bike, but here in Australia are way too expensive also. I eventually settled on the GSX S 1000, in Australia, they are great value for money. Love the bike.
I briefly looked at the GSX S750 before I bought my Honda. My local dealership had two of them and they both sold very quickly (I never even got over to see them in person).
Life would be boring if we all liked the same colour. My favourite colour is as you Americans call it is root beer! So I went out and bought one as it’s the most iconic colour as near to the retro 70’s ZED 1.
Hey man I feel ya on this and kudos for the end segment as well, I thought this was a good touch. I have decided the Z900 is going to be my next bike. I have decided it will be a 2020 or newer as I know some of the early models had some issues. I have found a couple in my area for about 9k during riding season but wasn’t ready to purchase yet. The SE really intrigues me but I’m not sure I’m a fan of the color scheme with that one. I do like the blue gold combo of the standard z900. I’d be curious your thoughts on the new z650rs and if you would consider it or if it would be too similar to the Honda.
I was a little worried the end segment would make the video too long but it was either that (which I was very happy with) or re-record the whole thing and scrap everything I had done up to that point. I'm not really a fan of yellow but I kind of like it on the SE. I'd imagine they'll do the same with that as they do the others and change it up from year to year. I'm only seeing the SE as the standard - not the cafe (hopefully they roll out a Cafe SE as well). If anyone is set on buying a brand new Z900RS, the SE upgrade seems like it is well worth the extra money IMO. I've got mixed feelings about the Z650RS. It has more of a modern feel than the Z900RS - to me it does, anyway.
I've been riding my '18 Cafe since June '18. Zero issues. Most complaints are from people who are unable to adapt to the bike. 1st gear is tricky due to fuel injection... so learn how to work with it; 5th to 6th gear clunks... so figure out the sweet spot to shift; seat is hard... purchase a $20 air seat of amazon for those 200+ mile days; suspension is soft... so learn how to adjust it, stock Dunlops suck... wear them out put on some Michelins. If you can get a good deal on a pre-2020 go for it!!! This bike loves twisty mountain roads; it sucks to ride on the slab for long hauls. If I could get something for the slab I'd get a Connie... Safe Riding!
Chopper.. Some of the early z900 had an issue with the rear lower shock mount which they addressed with a recall. They strengthened the frame on the 2021 model. I have a 2017 z900 with the recall brackets installed and it is fine outside of the fact that I'm pissed Kawasaki could have made the blunder to begin with. I'm a member of a z900 owners group and there has not been one single issue reported with it. There are pictures on the internet of an abused Z with the bracket torn but it is suspect. I had the front and rear suspension rebuilt to my spec by DMS for $650 and I couldn't be happier with the bike. Don't shy away from an earlier model if you get a great deal. You can buy a low mile mint one for in the $6000 range.
We get the point - buy used and save money. I just recently stumbled upon the Z900rs whilst shopping for something else. My last bike was a Triumph Bonneville T120 and my eye was instantly drawn to the styling of the Z900. It's a 2018 with some great extras with only 1100 miles but they want 10900 plus all the other stupid add ons. I have yet to see ANY Z900 within the 6-7K range your talking about. I live in Texas and bikes are plentiful.
Pre-Owned Bike prices are insane right now. Hopefully they start to come down a bit by next season and better deals are available. Personally, I'd go new with any bike purchase right now. I'd probably have to wait for it to arrive but they tend to be marginally more expensive than buying used at this point. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
Same thought, I almost buy a Z900RS, but changed mind, ended up got a Z900. Don't want to pay more just it's retro and Z900 way more worth the money compare to the Z900RS, just my opinion. Truimph speed twin 1200 will be my retro bike, I'll take it soon.
2022 Z900RS yellow ball has updated brembo 4 pot front brakes & Upgraded suspension Ohlins adjustable rear coil & few other upgrades. Don't know the price in US. Its sold out in UK.... May be in 2 or 3 years!
It looks like they are listed at $13,449 MSRP from Kawasaki USA. While checking on the price, I also stumbled onto the Z900RS 50th Anniversary Edition - nice looking bike 👍
Funny, “tired and long in the tooth.” It’s a retro. I will be purchasing the 2022 SE new although it is now 2023. Love the color, suspension and brakes.
I've been keeping an eye out at my local dealership - they have a very open test ride policy. Did you get an expected delivery date when you made your deposit?
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just remember that all those "extra" costs are there for every new motorcycle you buy (legal, distribution, etc)... and the Retro Tax exists on every brand... XSR is also the costliest model for Yamahas MTxxxx line of motorcycles. Again it all comes down to personal taste... and the fact that when one passes you buy, you are going to regret buying the Z900. IT's like marrying the perfect, caring, beautiful, extra smart wife, to discover on the wedding day, that you can't take your eyes out of her sister that came late to the reception party. Note...it happens to everyone... I am so undecided between the z900rs (base model) the speed twin, but when a NineT racer passes me by... frack.
You make a great point - I remember seeing an XSR at a local dealership a few months ago and got a little sticker shock when I saw the premium over the base MT-09 price. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
I’d own a Z900rs tomorrow except for the price. $4k extra just for styling changes is a rip off. Instead I bought second hand ninja1000 which is a great bike once the seat is upgraded. My 2c’s
I'd love to own one but I struggle with the premium price tag for the retro styling. Maybe in a few years when the prices come down on used Z900RS Models 🤞
Amigo, how Does this UA-cam thing work? A 15' video to explain why you won't purchase a bike vs a simple/short "it's too expensive for me". And, you make money in the process. I guess the King of "Nothingness" (Seinfeld) would be proud of you. Congrats bro.
It's a project laying on fertile ground. Spend 6500$ on after market parts and its the coolest bike look wise and drive wise. Rides better than my Ducati super sport S 2021 model with way better handling and no steering dumper thanks to an andreani misano front preload swap. That racefit full titanium system exhaust makes str8 pipe vtwins look twice. Anyways its how much love you put into something. Kawasaki tends to steep the prices BUT that 4 banger block lasts and performs like no other. My 2 cents cheers.
At the time it was - mainly because I expected to have my order in a few weeks. Unfortunately, that few weeks stretched into five months with manufacturer delays. I bought a 2022 Yamaha MT-09 SP
Why change it if it doesn’t need it The rs has all the updates. Owners do anyway. The problem I have with it. is why did they make it so tall. It looks like motocross bike when if anything it should look like a drag bike. Kawasaki, make it hight adjustable. If it had a lower centre of gravity it will improve cornering. Braking handling. It’s on stilts.
I just don’t understand this “price & value” talk when applied to the purchase of a motorcycle. This is about passion and getting exactly what you want. Most of us purchase a bike and then buy a bunch of overpriced add-ons to further customize it to our taste. I’ve had lots of bikes over the years. I’m approaching 70 so I don’t have the time to wait for a “good deal” to save a few hundred bucks. This summer I will have a 2024 Z900RS SE parked in my garage. I sure don’t want a #2 or #3 choice in the garage simply because it was a better “value”.
All I can picture in my mind is someone left holding a wafer cone in their hand while looking down at a mound of ice cream on the cut grass complete with syrup, chocolate flake and sprinkles 😭
Updates on a retro model? What did you expect? I'm 63, been riding bikes since '75. One learns to check ones expectations. Why even be looking at retro bikes?
I bought a 2019 cafe new last year for 10,400, ive been thinking about selling it, but theres nothing else to buy everything is expensive and heavy and heavy
Thats the predicament a lot of people are in right now. Pre-Owned bike prices are very strong so you do well selling what you have but if you have your eye on something new, you probably can't get it. I put a deposit down on my new bike in Late September. Since then the delivery date has been adjusted twice and now I don't have a date at all. The dealership tells me "Probably 1st Quarter of 2022".
Well not really, I have on rare occasions, very rare, hit a non-gear, but I suspect it's my boots or lack of mating rpm properly. Oil change every 5k. Regular valve adj every 15k Get the center-stand and heated grips into your budget. Hepco Becker makes some sweet hard bags, anything can be carbon 'fibered', Denali Sound-bomb, national cycle f-shield, oh R&G nylon case covers. It's my last bike (#13), That 50th anniversary could be cool, yellow-ball as well. I've stopped lingering at the magazine rack now (good sign it's the one). Enjoy!
The dealership I frequent doesn't get in demo bikes. They have a very open test-ride process where under most circumstances they'll let you ride whatever it is you are looking to buy. I've been over there quite a bit recently and I haven't seen or heard anything about the Z900 RS. They have a 650 RS that they are expecting in sometime soon but it is already sold. I've never bought a vehicle on eBay. Lots of other things but never a bike in running condition.
Bikes shouldn't be so expensive. The more idiots keep buying, the more they will keep their prices high. If the consumer stops buying, trust me... things will change.
Used Bike prices finally seem to be dropping - they were insane for a while. It was to the point where a new bike was only a couple hundred dollars more than one that was 4 years old.
Interesting that your Z900 RS at $14500us is the equivalent of of about $22000 Australian, that’s about $3000 more than here in Aus. There is a slight sense of cynical marketing effort by being charged more for the retro look ( they know it looks good and you will pay up) And it does look good and rides beautifully. But these ‘feelings’ are part of the experience and they feel a bit negative to me. The other aspect is that while I love the look it does feel as if I’m being tricked , sort of a honey trap if you like. Romance over common sense, that also leaves me with a strange sense of anxiety as to whether I’ve made a good choice or am I a silly old burger who fallen for a pretty girl. I don’t know , but I’m probably not going to buy one either. I quite like your Honda however.
Damn the price of the Z900Rs is just about the same as I paid for a leftover Vaquero. But honestly the Z900 would be a bike I would definitely consider as a 2nd bike.
I'm a huge fan of the Z900RS and would love to own one. Maybe in a few years I'll come across a pre-owned 2021 Z900RS Cafe and it will become my second bike 👍
Just traded in my Vaq on one of these ... just wanted a smaller more nimble bike. Already have headers and muffler, Ivan's flash, and airbox mods. I will never learn
For that I think I need to expand my radius a bit - whenever a used Z900RS pops up in the relative area they tend to sell very quickly. Thanks for watching
@@WaltInPA No problem. I always keep a 500 km radius (310 miles). All of the last three or four used motorcycles I bought had 1000-3000 miles on them. Always an old man getting out of motorcycling to buy from.
You’re a big guy. I’m 6 foot. 235 and the Honda Valkyrie just fits!! Everything is big and great handle bars u don’t get anymore from anyone. A good used Valkyrie can be 4000 or so. Mines a 2000. Yellow and black 🐝 and only 27 k miles and mint shape. I’m anal about that 😂. 6 cylinder and runs forever. (300 k miles) And with cobra pipes ohhhhh my god!!!!!! Get summmmm!!!!!
I totally agree with you. I love the Z900RS Cafe but it's way overpriced. Even with the SE edition (fugly paint in my opinion tho), the new 2022 XSR900 with lots of new electronic rider aids, tft clocks and cruise control is quite the bargain, starting at $9,999 plus Yamaha freight, etc. I think I'm headed in that direction. I really enjoy your channel, thanks for posting some great videos =]
It’s priced competitively with bikes in its class like triumph speed twin. Yamaha is just on another level in terms of value. More hp, torque about the same, full sweet of electronics. Only thing I don’t like is the small tank on the xsr900
Overpriced? $12k for a great 4 cylinder motor with an amazing paint job doesn’t sound bad to me. If you have never seen the Candytone Blue version in person I think it would make you change your mind about the quality of the bike and the value.
There is a reason to buy the Z900RS. It's because it's a reto on one of the most iconic bikes ever made. The Z1 or the KZ900. Why buy anything else. You don't really up grade a iconic bike much. Really I would have an original KZ900 with all new better up to date parts. I would never looks at the other bikes. They are ugly to me. I can understand where you are coming from. Where I'm coming from is an original buyer of a brand new KZ900 in 1976. So the other than reto models don't do anything for me. The money difference doesn't matter either. The only thing I don't like about the Z900RS is the ugly back fender & single rear shock. The back half of the motorcycle doesn't fit the front half. It probably needs a good set of 4 into 1 pipes also.
They should - they seem like fantastic bikes. I haven't seen one at my local dealership yet though - they have a 650 RS that is pre-sold before arrival but I haven't heard anything about a 900 RS coming in
Back when I was shopping for a bike 2 years ago, my local dealer had a 2018 Z900 RS Cafe for somewhere between $6k and $8k. Looking back, I regret not taking a more serious look at it.
The RS is more than the z900 for a few reasons, biggest being the RS is built in Japan as opposed to Thailand for the z900. The SE, if you don’t have a boner for Ohlins and the Yellow Ball paint, can be replicated with K Tech valve kit and K Tech shock. TBH, a shock and flash transforms the RS.
Forget everything you’ve said , I’ve owned an rs for 2 years . Lovely bike , buying an se next year x lovely bike . Look great , sound great . The standard z900 is a great bike but looks like a transformer . The rs looks great .
I completely understand that - even my Honda CB650F gives off a Transformer / Mechanical Bug vibe (I think it has a lot to do with the hard lines on the headlight). I think if I were in the market for a 2022 Z900RS, I would absolutely spent a little more and upgrade to the SE. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
When it comes to a lot of naked bikes (my Honda CB650F included) they have a sort of transformer / futuristic mechanical bug look to them. The retro Z900RS went in the opposite direction with the styling and I think that is why I like it so much.
You keep repeating there are better options available but you do not name them. Z900 is not the same category. To sum up your video: "I am not buying the motorbike because I think it is expensive. Why? I do not know. Just feel like it." I am writing this mean comment because you have a very good presentation and I feel frustrated that the content did not match the form. Ride safe.
I get what you mean as far as bang for your buck, that being said the z900rs SE is going to hold its value. I don’t have a exact number as far as how many are coming state side, but I know mine was hard to find. I put my deposit down a month ago and prolly won’t be here until early next year. I’ve been on both the z900 and the z900rs, worlds different in fit and finish. You get what you pay for, it’s just not something you see in the numbers. Long rant I know lol. Liked your video man and I’ll prolly make one of the SE when it comes in. Cheers
I've been keeping an eye out for a pre-owned z900rs and they don't come up very often (at least not locally to me anyway). It seems like one of those bikes that people are happy with and hold on to. If I were going to buy a new 2022 z900rs I would definitely spent a little more and upgrade to the SE. Thanks for watching and commenting
I was going to put a deposit on a yellow ball but after tax plus, and destination fee of $700 plus $200 set up fees… l was around $15500.00 l opted for a low mileage bike. And l found one with 200 miles on a 2018. For $9000 that in my opinion that was a deal. I’m a happy camper can’t wait for spring here in Michigan
The truth is the Z900RS isn't for you. I just purchased my 2023 Z900RS in Diablo black and Imperial red, total cost on the road was $12,430. It is my opinion this bike was marketed towards us, the older generation that grew up owning the original Z1s and KZs. If you understand the history of the "superbikes" and how Kawasaki waited to release the Z1 and completely blew Hondas 750/4 out of the water with the Z1, you'll start to understand what exactly the bike represents. The new Z900RS is no longer the fastest production bike, but it doesn't have to be. For the generation this bike is marketed towards its a home run hit. Just to think Kawasaki pays homage to that time in thier/our history is very heart warming to us old timers. I for one no longer need the speed, but to be able to look at, and take a couple of hundred mile cruise remembering my old Z1s & KZs absolutely does it for me. Kawasaki has absolutely hit a home run with this retro bike. What's that worth to me......priceless. P.S. this new bike is so much better than the old originals. I personally do not want all the modern electronics a go dad's, he'll I'd have paid more for my new truck if it didn't have all the gadgets it has. Just my humble opinion.
Hi, I'm very happy with my Z900 RS,I bought her in 2018 and it hasn't had the slightest problem until today, I've had many motorcycles, this one is very comfortable ,it responds to every request you demand, also she could be a monster too:)
I know nothing about these Kawasaki motorcycles, so I can’t add any value here. I just wanted to say how I like how you came back at the end and gave the information you did. You are very good at explaining your mindset for your decisions.
You can look at the z900rs competitor the Triumph speed twin and and one is a very good value for the price plus it comes with all the new tech. But the RS a very good looking machine specially the SE. plus those retro bike hold their value pretty good
I have a friend with a Speed Twin - they are nice looking bikes 👍 It looks like Yamaha has updated the XSR900 for 2022 - that has caught my eye as well.
The Z900RS has more modern technology than the Speed Twin: fully adjustable forks, mono-shock with linkage and adjustable rebound, modern tubular frame design, large LCD with tons of info incl. gear indicator that is discrete. It's also 2in longer, has a larger fuel tank but weighs slightly less, much more comfortable seat and ergonomics, and is about $800 cheaper. They are both good bikes, but the Triumph is an old tech bike with an old engine highly compressed to barely make 100hp and with some expensive parts (Marzocchi forks, Brembo M50 brakes) thrown onto an old frame and shock design. The Z900RS is a truly modern bike dressed up like a classic Z1 bike from the 1970s. The engine is down-tuned for more torque, and the compression is much lower than the Triumph's (10.8:1 vs 12.1:1). Even so, for a few hundred Dollars you can tune the bike to make 120hp at the wheel (ECU mod, different down pipe, air box mod)! Totally opposite approach from the Speed Twin. With the Z900RS SE you will now also get the fancy Öhlins suspension and Brembo brakes. The main difference I see is that the Speed Twin is a classic bike with classic high torque, low RPM engine characteristic, while the Z900RS is a modern bike with a high power, higher RPM engine characteristic only dressed up to look like a classic bike.
I can absolutely respect your comment but I do own an 18 due to color scheme. It is a beautiful and fantastic bike in my opinion. I hope you find one you love.
Another option is finding new old stock. I picked a 2019 Z900rs cafe back in August 2021 for about the same price as a new year standard model Z900. Two/three years old, zero miles, and it's been a lot of fun (and a comfortable ride)!
A little long in the tooth you say, its a throw back from the 70's. Why bother adding extra cost for the sake of it? Just leave it as basic as possible.
I would'nt buy the Z 900 RS either. Thats Why I bought the Z900RS Cafe.When I was a teen ager I used to road race a fairly stock Eddie Lawson replica that didn't handle near as well or go as fast as my Z900 RS Cafe but whatever. I really would love a Honda Cbr900RR as well. But I'm 55 years old now and I dont road race any more so the Z900 RS Cafe makes way more sense. And I can still pull power wheelies. If ya wanna buy mine it has 886 miles on it and I'll sell it to ya for $7,500.BTW my Z900RS Cafe will come with an uninstalled Delkevic 4 into 1 exhaust. BTW I'm in Az so my bike is rust free. if your serious about wanting the bike hit me up. $7500 cash will get it and I can help arrange shipping.
That sounds like a pretty good deal. If I were still in the market I would give some serious thought to it. I bought a Yamaha MT09 SP a few months back. The funny thing about the Z900 RS Cafe is the first time I saw it, I didn't like it. It did grow on me though - I think if given the choice I'd take the Cafe over the Base Model now. Thanks for watching and commenting
Do you want it or not if you want it it’s worth the price do you only live once or do you have a secret the rest of us don’t know about lol, treat yourself
Back in 2018 I wanted the spark black Z900RS but I found a left over black 2017 speed triple 1050 s brand new for $10,000. A no brainer. I still have a crush on the Z900RS. Where in pa are ya?
That sounds like a great deal - you can't even get a couple year old Street Triple for that price these days. I'm in Southeast PA - in the Pottstown area. Are you local to PA?
Delmarva power sports by OC usually has sales on them I got mine there when they were getting rid of the 21s for the 22 in July, was out the door with all fees and taxes like 11800
I'm almost afraid to go down that path. Then I'd need a new logo, new intro, new channel stickers, new poker chips, and worst of all - a new hand made one of a kind motorcycle rock! It is a waiting game now - the bike has been ordered since September and I'm still waiting on it to arrive at the dealership (those chip shortages and supply chain issues are becoming a real pain 😩) Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
@@WaltInPA I found a way around that: My "buy all the Lego" thing is just a way to "earmark" the funds for a new Z900RS without my wife complaining... then, once I've spent enough on Lego, I find someone who's willing to trade, or I sell all the Lego and suddenly have all this money to buy a Z900RS with! It's brilliant I tell ya!
Before I bought my Honda I was taking a hard look at the GSX-S750. My local dealership had two and they both sold before I could check them out. Good looking bike 👍
My dilemma exactly. Do I go for an 900RS Cafe 2023 Black & Gold OTD$ for 13,500, or a Yamaha XSR 900 (Blue) for $10,700 OTD SSS. I think the RS will no longer be made and it'll get that desirability , but the XSR is modern, more power, cruise and quick shifter. I have an 2021 R9T-719 now, but keeping that, so this would be a second Bike I would love to go back and have an in-line 4, and that CP3 Engine is pure Gold....So I really have to Think...Be Safe
IK rijdt sedert januari 2019 met een z900rs toen nog naked gekocht, doch dit jaar in april 2022 uitgerust met Givi side carrier en topcase , ik ben blij er mee te rijden heb er bijna 20000 km mee
I found a stock 2018 Z900rs with 1800 miles last month, asking price was 8.5k, offered 8, and got it. I’ve put about 300 miles on it, and have to say so far I’m happy with my decision. It’s fun, and quick. Low range torque is amazing. I’m 6’ and it fits perfectly. There is a low seat option, not sure how much $$ for that, but I don’t need it. The money you save buying used can go towards any mods you want to make, or a bunch of new gear. So far the only thing I’ve done is add a radiator guard. I’ve not noticed any of the problems you mentioned. The only thing I did experience was the sensitively of the throttle, some say twitchy or jerky. Yes it is sensitive, but I got used to it without any trouble. For new riders that could be a problem when encountering any situations that require quick coordination of braking, steering, and throttle control.
Sounds like you got a good deal. The last one I saw was around 8k (about two years ago). With the way pre-owned motorcycles have been climbing in value lately I would expect them to go for more than that 👍
@@WaltInPA yes, especially retail. I’ve seen them listed for as much as 10.9. It has the orange/brown metallic paint, and I believe that was extra by few $$. I just looked on CycleTrader and saw one, must be a holdover, with 6 miles, it’s listed for 12.7k, unbelievable. I could probably resell it for a tidy profit, but then I’d just want another one. Maybe I can hold onto it for a couple years, get my money back, and find a used Z900rs SE model. For the difference I’d spend right now I could add another bike to the garage.
I am 63 years old and have been riding since the age of 8. I spent my High School and College days working in Motorcycle shops. I've had more motorcycles than most riders. Too many for this old mind to remember but close to fifty. I ordered a 2022 z900rs June 1. The first day an order could be placed and it delivered the end of September. This bike is hands down the most fun bike of the dozens I have owned. I can ride all day in comfort finding joy in each passing mile. I can afford any bike I want and wouldn't change my choice. If your thinking about a purchase DON'T. Just do it!
I've talked to a few people now that have the Z900RS and they all seem to love them. It certainly sounds like it is worth the bit of sticker shock that comes with them.
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Valkyrie rules!!’ 5 k used in greattttt shape.
How is the low speed fueling? I test drove one and it was pretty on/off (that was a 2018 though).
@@beer3029 It can be very snatchy at low speed in first gear.
The ECU Refresh completed during the Recall didn't help in that regard.
@@WaltInPA thank you, that totally rules it out for me.
I just paid 12800 for my 50 th anniversary z900 rs.
It was worth every penny. The whole dealership watched the unboxing. The techs wanted to buy it. I get thumbs up from passing cars. And I've been riding kawis since 1972. So its kawis tribute to me. I'm now living my dream.
I bought one too. What a beautiful motorcycle, I can't imagine buying anything else!
I'm piece by piece adding oem kawi accessories. A gold oil cap! Haa. Matches the wheels. 64 bucks what ta hell. The oem cover is ok but doesn't cover the front wheel below the fender. The dash trim is nice. It contrasts the turn signal indicators . The engine slider was expensive but is chiseled to match the turn signal housings. Thinking about the center stand next.
Just looked at a 2021 z1000 (2006 R1 my old bike) and ended up being torn between a 2022 z900rs and the Z1000.
The fit and finish on the z900rs is exceptional, that’s where the money is, especially against the z900 which I wrote off almost immediately (value for money of the z900 not in question). The z900rs it just feels “proper” so to speak. I walked from the shop without buying either I was so torn!
But a couple of days on now and I’m going back tomorrow for that RS!
I bought a 2018 Z900RS hold over bike in September 2019. Got an unbelievable price. This past year I had the ecu flashed, replaced stock suspension with K-tech front and rear, replaced stock seat, added color matched bikini fairing. replaced stock tires with Michelin Power 5. Its an awesome bike in the twisties now.
That sounds like a great setup 👍
Where would you go to have it flashed ; and what does this do for performance compared to stock.?
@@jimmyhamm6041 Ivans performance did the flash. I also did a couple airbox mods to get more air to the motor. Makes a little more power but to get the most you'd have to replace the entire exhaust system which I did not do. The flash smooths out the power delivery. Ivans web site spells out other things he adjusts to make the bike run smoother. I like the results, I think its worth the cost.
@@broc2727 wish they still sold and designed karkerheaders for motorcycles ; Van&Hines
where a nice muffler also. Growley!
@@jimmyhamm6041 I like Akrapovic but I don't want the extra noise any more.
One of the sickest bikes around. Japanese fit and finish, Kawasaki engineering...So nice.
I have a deposit on a 2022 Z900RS SE, supposedly the only one my dealership is getting. I tried to convince myself to save some dough and go with the regular Z900 SE, but the RS spec is just so much sexier. It doesn't have to be retro per sey, but I am not a fan of the alien transformer look that a lot of bikes call "modern". As for the price difference, well, metal is more expensive than plastic. A nice analog watch might not be as high tech as a digital one, but there's a reason a Rolex costs more than a Casio. If you are having trouble justifying the price, try doing what I did: selling a CVO Harley for it. It will seem like an astonishingly good value for the money, lol. 😂😂😂
I completely understand - the "futuristic robot bug" look takes a little getting used to. I think the retro bikes are more pleasant to look at in general.
When you put your deposit down on the 2022 Z900RS SE, did you get a timeline on when the dealership expects to have it?
There seem to be massive shipping delays right now and I'm curious if Kawasaki is as far behind as some of the other manufacturers.
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@@WaltInPA They originally told me it would be here in January, now it is March, we will see if they stick to that time table. As long as it is here by May, I will be happy. They do already have a 2022 Z900RS Cafe on the floor, as well as like 2 or 3 other 2022 Kawasaki's, so they are getting some bikes out, but the SE will be a little later.
I put down a deposit on a RS/SE, Waiting. Dealers only get one if their is a Deposit on it. Otherwise they won't see one.
Yes I know Kawasaki they are
So tough I think their made out
Of tietanum the 900 will last
For 100 years
I've been touring on my '18 Cafe for about 4 years and love it; light, nimble and fast, especially up in the mountains. You have to be in great riding shape to do 500+ mile days, especially in weather, so definitely not suited for everyone. Enjoy your CBR. So many bikes, so little money!!!
I just checked out your channel - looks like you've got a nice setup for touring.
The rigid saddlebags look good 👍
I think you have missed the point of the Z900RS. Your focus on the price is irrelevant, for most of us it is a less of an issue. I remember well as a young man desperately wanting a Z1 but couldn’t afford either the bike or the insurance. Now with the opportunity to buy a modern version version of one of the most iconic motorcycles ever made it had to be done. Enjoy your Honda 650, and keep wanting a Z900RS.
The Z900RS is all about looks, that's why we love them!
I have a 2018 Z900RS and I have to agree with your sentiments about pricing. However, I've found that ALL bikes are priced high these days and if I wanted something more improved, modern (whatever) it would cost me considerably more. It made more sense for me to upgrade the bike (rear shock and other stuff).
I think we're in a weird time right now. Due to supply chain issues and chip shortages, new bikes are being delayed. Because of the delays, the cost of pre-owned motorcycles is rising. One of the reasons I'm trading in my Honda is because the trade-in value is a couple hundred dollars less than I paid for it 2 years ago.
Now its a waiting game - I'm being told 1st Quarter 2022 is the best timeline they can give me on my order.
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Did you miss the SE model? It’s a retro, not sure what else you want on a retro. It’s an excellent machine.
2018 Z900RS owner. Bought mine used, I am upgrading one little thing at a time. I'll build my own SE. Outstanding bike, great fun in the twistys.
I think you're right - find a 2018 model and making small upgrades over time seems like the way to go.
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Don’t talk yourself out of it , it’s a great bike , love mine . Worth the money for its looks alone . Sound is great too . Comfy . Fast enough for a naked too
It really does look good - actually, I think its the best looking retro bike on the market 👍
The prices only drop by about $1000 a year on the used models, at least here in Calif., so they seem to hold their value farily well, like you said, they are not a high demand bike. After looking around at the used ones, I ended up getting a new 2022, the drive out was exactly $14K even.
With the scarcity of new 2022 models these days (across all brands) , $14k out the door sounds like you did pretty well 👍
I've been keeping my eye out on my local dealers pre-owned inventory and over the past 2 years I've only ever seen one 2018 Z900RS Cafe become available. Great looking bikes but either they aren't supe popular or people love them and hold onto them long-term.
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In a similar vein... I love the 2022 Triumph Speed twin, but they really, really need to launch a performance edition.
Great video, stunning location too 👌
Don’t they have a bike with another name that’s basically a performance edition speed twin
@@Fee.1 They've got the Thruxton R, I've never ridden it but from all I've read about it it's a very different set up and feel. I think the Utopia for Triumph will be a Speed Twin R and hopefully a rethink on the colour scheme, e.g. the Brietling special edition which had an awesome finish.
The deals are out there, you just have to find them. I bought a new 2020 leftover for $7,999 I had to go 500 miles to get it but deals are out there. It was a sweet ride back home.😊😊
Wow - that sounds like an awesome deal!
Great and honest review.But no motor bike buy makes sense its a 100% emotional buy and that's the beauty of it.This starts when you first notice motor bikes as a young boy.
That black/brown combo on the 900 looks sweet! I'll have to see it in person :D
I think its really cool how they change the color each year. It almost makes each year sort of like a collectors item.
I'm with you on the price. $12K is a lot and then the fees are just a killer. I am riding a beautiful, new, 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 Mark 2 which I paid $6,700 plus only about $500 in fees, license, etc. It has everything I want except 100 horsepower.
I sold my int 650 v.2018 last month, it's very nice and reasonable price, it's the best in same market segment...for me 100hp is enough ...and it's not design for speedy rider.
This Dude is Nutty. Here is a video with a Z900rs and Z800rs se side by side comparison. I don't like all the bronze and gold, but I do like the hard candy yellow. I wished that U S. imported Z900rs models would get Spoked wheels like the Honda CB1100. But I see those wheels can be ordered from Japan and all the brake rotors bolt right up in the same pattern as the aluminum wheels. That's money I would easily spend. Now if Kerker was still around. A Black 4 into 1 performance exhaust would be AWESOME. Cannnn I Get An Amen?
I stopped in at my local dealer last week and right inside the door was a 2022 Z900RS with a sold sticker on it. It was the first brand new one I've gotten to see in person - it is a beautiful bike.
I have a 2020 Cafe version and I absolutely love it. Picked it up last year for 10K and it was brand new. These bikes maybe a little overpriced but what the heck? It's Only Money.
I bought mine brand new for $9600. In 2020 it's a 2019 brown and orange. Fun bike and gets lots of thumbs up.
That sounds like a great deal.
Did you get yours before the Pandemic started interfering with supply?
Similar situation, got mine too last year Sept for a 2020 bike. Matte green & black. Requirements and wanting outweighs the price 😃
Nice thoughts. I get it. Also thinking of the Z900rs. :) Keep going buddy and drop by.
It looks like a fantastic bike and I'd love to have one someday.
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@@WaltInPA No problem buddy.
Very happy to see/hear someone shares my opinion on buying a z900rs 😁
Chris from England here. The bikes in the U.S. are much the same in dollars as they are in pounds in U.K. ive just orerded my z900rs se £13300. Drink it why its fizzy man 👍
I really like the new addition of the SE model 👍
Great Video Mate. I too love the bike, but here in Australia are way too expensive also. I eventually settled on the GSX S 1000, in Australia, they are great value for money. Love the bike.
I briefly looked at the GSX S750 before I bought my Honda.
My local dealership had two of them and they both sold very quickly (I never even got over to see them in person).
Life would be boring if we all liked the same colour. My favourite colour is as you Americans call it is root beer! So I went out and bought one as it’s the most iconic colour as near to the retro 70’s ZED 1.
I like the Root Beer color scheme on the standard. The Cafe though, I really like the grey - it is definitely a good looking bike.
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Hey man I feel ya on this and kudos for the end segment as well, I thought this was a good touch. I have decided the Z900 is going to be my next bike. I have decided it will be a 2020 or newer as I know some of the early models had some issues. I have found a couple in my area for about 9k during riding season but wasn’t ready to purchase yet. The SE really intrigues me but I’m not sure I’m a fan of the color scheme with that one. I do like the blue gold combo of the standard z900.
I’d be curious your thoughts on the new z650rs and if you would consider it or if it would be too similar to the Honda.
I was a little worried the end segment would make the video too long but it was either that (which I was very happy with) or re-record the whole thing and scrap everything I had done up to that point.
I'm not really a fan of yellow but I kind of like it on the SE. I'd imagine they'll do the same with that as they do the others and change it up from year to year. I'm only seeing the SE as the standard - not the cafe (hopefully they roll out a Cafe SE as well). If anyone is set on buying a brand new Z900RS, the SE upgrade seems like it is well worth the extra money IMO.
I've got mixed feelings about the Z650RS. It has more of a modern feel than the Z900RS - to me it does, anyway.
I've been riding my '18 Cafe since June '18. Zero issues. Most complaints are from people who are unable to adapt to the bike. 1st gear is tricky due to fuel injection... so learn how to work with it; 5th to 6th gear clunks... so figure out the sweet spot to shift; seat is hard... purchase a $20 air seat of amazon for those 200+ mile days; suspension is soft... so learn how to adjust it, stock Dunlops suck... wear them out put on some Michelins. If you can get a good deal on a pre-2020 go for it!!! This bike loves twisty mountain roads; it sucks to ride on the slab for long hauls. If I could get something for the slab I'd get a Connie... Safe Riding!
Chopper.. Some of the early z900 had an issue with the rear lower shock mount which they addressed with a recall. They strengthened the frame on the 2021 model. I have a 2017 z900 with the recall brackets installed and it is fine outside of the fact that I'm pissed Kawasaki could have made the blunder to begin with. I'm a member of a z900 owners group and there has not been one single issue reported with it. There are pictures on the internet of an abused Z with the bracket torn but it is suspect. I had the front and rear suspension rebuilt to my spec by DMS for $650 and I couldn't be happier with the bike. Don't shy away from an earlier model if you get a great deal. You can buy a low mile mint one for in the $6000 range.
We get the point - buy used and save money. I just recently stumbled upon the Z900rs whilst shopping for something else. My last bike was a Triumph Bonneville T120 and my eye was instantly drawn to the styling of the Z900. It's a 2018 with some great extras with only 1100 miles but they want 10900 plus all the other stupid add ons. I have yet to see ANY Z900 within the 6-7K range your talking about. I live in Texas and bikes are plentiful.
Pre-Owned Bike prices are insane right now. Hopefully they start to come down a bit by next season and better deals are available. Personally, I'd go new with any bike purchase right now. I'd probably have to wait for it to arrive but they tend to be marginally more expensive than buying used at this point.
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Same thought, I almost buy a Z900RS, but changed mind, ended up got a Z900. Don't want to pay more just it's retro and Z900 way more worth the money compare to the Z900RS, just my opinion. Truimph speed twin 1200 will be my retro bike, I'll take it soon.
2022 Z900RS yellow ball has updated brembo 4 pot front brakes & Upgraded suspension Ohlins adjustable rear coil & few other upgrades. Don't know the price in US. Its sold out in UK.... May be in 2 or 3 years!
It looks like they are listed at $13,449 MSRP from Kawasaki USA.
While checking on the price, I also stumbled onto the Z900RS 50th Anniversary Edition - nice looking bike 👍
Funny, “tired and long in the tooth.” It’s a retro. I will be purchasing the 2022 SE new although it is now 2023. Love the color, suspension and brakes.
I think you're going to change your mind once you ride the re-mapping of the new ES, I put my deposit down about a month ago.
I've been keeping an eye out at my local dealership - they have a very open test ride policy.
Did you get an expected delivery date when you made your deposit?
just remember that all those "extra" costs are there for every new motorcycle you buy (legal, distribution, etc)... and the Retro Tax exists on every brand... XSR is also the costliest model for Yamahas MTxxxx line of motorcycles.
Again it all comes down to personal taste... and the fact that when one passes you buy, you are going to regret buying the Z900. IT's like marrying the perfect, caring, beautiful, extra smart wife, to discover on the wedding day, that you can't take your eyes out of her sister that came late to the reception party.
Note...it happens to everyone... I am so undecided between the z900rs (base model) the speed twin, but when a NineT racer passes me by... frack.
You make a great point - I remember seeing an XSR at a local dealership a few months ago and got a little sticker shock when I saw the premium over the base MT-09 price.
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R9T Racer is a beautiful bike. I hear the seating position is the motorcycle equivalent to torture.
@@kevincrockett5155 I have still to test one, but it sure looks like so.
I paid 12 000 with all taxes and fees for RS caffe 2022 . Is that a lot?
I’d own a Z900rs tomorrow except for the price. $4k extra just for styling changes is a rip off. Instead I bought second hand ninja1000 which is a great bike once the seat is upgraded.
My 2c’s
I'd love to own one but I struggle with the premium price tag for the retro styling. Maybe in a few years when the prices come down on used Z900RS Models 🤞
Amigo, how Does this UA-cam thing work? A 15' video to explain why you won't purchase a bike vs a simple/short "it's too expensive for me". And, you make money in the process. I guess the King of "Nothingness" (Seinfeld) would be proud of you. Congrats bro.
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It's a project laying on fertile ground. Spend 6500$ on after market parts and its the coolest bike look wise and drive wise. Rides better than my Ducati super sport S 2021 model with way better handling and no steering dumper thanks to an andreani misano front preload swap.
That racefit full titanium system exhaust makes str8 pipe vtwins look twice. Anyways its how much love you put into something. Kawasaki tends to steep the prices BUT that 4 banger block lasts and performs like no other.
My 2 cents cheers.
So is it a big secret on what you are buying?
At the time it was - mainly because I expected to have my order in a few weeks. Unfortunately, that few weeks stretched into five months with manufacturer delays.
I bought a 2022 Yamaha MT-09 SP
Why change it if it doesn’t need it The rs has all the updates. Owners do anyway. The problem I have with it. is why did they make it so tall. It looks like motocross bike when if anything it should look like a drag bike. Kawasaki, make it hight adjustable. If it had a lower centre of gravity it will improve cornering. Braking handling. It’s on stilts.
If you in my country, you must pay 19.000-20.000 to own it...if thing work for me...I could get one in next 2 months...hope so :(
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I just don’t understand this “price & value” talk when applied to the purchase of a motorcycle. This is about passion and getting exactly what you want. Most of us purchase a bike and then buy a bunch of overpriced add-ons to further customize it to our taste. I’ve had lots of bikes over the years. I’m approaching 70 so I don’t have the time to wait for a “good deal” to save a few hundred bucks. This summer I will have a 2024 Z900RS SE parked in my garage. I sure don’t want a #2 or #3 choice in the garage simply because it was a better “value”.
I've a 2021 rs and the only thing I ever worry about is the weather forecast
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All I can picture in my mind is someone left holding a wafer cone in their hand while looking down at a mound of ice cream on the cut grass complete with syrup, chocolate flake and sprinkles 😭
ok ok . Dont forget! Always 2 hands on ! You fling like a conductor :)
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Updates on a retro model? What did you expect?
I'm 63, been riding bikes since '75. One learns to check ones expectations. Why even be looking at retro bikes?
I bought a 2019 cafe new last year for 10,400, ive been thinking about selling it, but theres nothing else to buy everything is expensive and heavy and heavy
Thats the predicament a lot of people are in right now. Pre-Owned bike prices are very strong so you do well selling what you have but if you have your eye on something new, you probably can't get it.
I put a deposit down on my new bike in Late September. Since then the delivery date has been adjusted twice and now I don't have a date at all. The dealership tells me "Probably 1st Quarter of 2022".
Just ticked 37k glorious miles on my 2018...
What do you think of it after 37k miles? Does it have any quarks that a new owner wouldn't notice right away?
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Well not really, I have on rare occasions, very rare, hit a non-gear, but I suspect it's my boots or lack of mating rpm properly.
Oil change every 5k. Regular valve adj every 15k
Get the center-stand and heated grips into your budget.
Hepco Becker makes some sweet hard bags, anything can be carbon 'fibered', Denali Sound-bomb, national cycle f-shield, oh R&G nylon case covers.
It's my last bike (#13),
That 50th anniversary could be cool, yellow-ball as well.
I've stopped lingering at the magazine rack now (good sign it's the one). Enjoy!
Many selling for 6k now that they are discontinued
What about shop demo? Oor just wait for one to pop up on eBay
The dealership I frequent doesn't get in demo bikes. They have a very open test-ride process where under most circumstances they'll let you ride whatever it is you are looking to buy. I've been over there quite a bit recently and I haven't seen or heard anything about the Z900 RS. They have a 650 RS that they are expecting in sometime soon but it is already sold.
I've never bought a vehicle on eBay. Lots of other things but never a bike in running condition.
Bikes shouldn't be so expensive. The more idiots keep buying, the more they will keep their prices high. If the consumer stops buying, trust me... things will change.
Used Bike prices finally seem to be dropping - they were insane for a while. It was to the point where a new bike was only a couple hundred dollars more than one that was 4 years old.
You’ll probably get it after you ride a few more years. Or win the lotto. Cheers !
Interesting that your Z900 RS at $14500us is the equivalent of of about $22000 Australian, that’s about $3000 more than here in Aus.
There is a slight sense of cynical marketing effort by being charged more for the retro look ( they know it looks good and you will pay up)
And it does look good and rides beautifully. But these ‘feelings’ are part of the experience and they feel a bit negative to me. The other aspect is that while I love the look it does feel as if I’m being tricked , sort of a honey trap if you like. Romance over common sense, that also leaves me with a strange sense of anxiety as to whether I’ve made a good choice or am I a silly old burger who fallen for a pretty girl. I don’t know , but I’m probably not going to buy one either. I quite like your Honda however.
So, you bought a Z900? You never actually said what you put money down on.
I wound up going with a Yamaha MT-09 SP.
I still love the looks of the Z900 RS and would love to find a pre-owned model one day.
A used one with less then
100,000 mi is a good buy
Damn the price of the Z900Rs is just about the same as I paid for a leftover Vaquero. But honestly the Z900 would be a bike I would definitely consider as a 2nd bike.
I'm a huge fan of the Z900RS and would love to own one. Maybe in a few years I'll come across a pre-owned 2021 Z900RS Cafe and it will become my second bike 👍
Just traded in my Vaq on one of these ... just wanted a smaller more nimble bike. Already have headers and muffler, Ivan's flash, and airbox mods. I will never learn
Just buy a used one. Plenty of low kilometer used ones.
For that I think I need to expand my radius a bit - whenever a used Z900RS pops up in the relative area they tend to sell very quickly.
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@@WaltInPA No problem. I always keep a 500 km radius (310 miles). All of the last three or four used motorcycles I bought had 1000-3000 miles on them. Always an old man getting out of motorcycling to buy from.
@@WaltInPA Ended up taking my own advice and grabbing a low mileage (7k km / 4.3k miles) - such a cool bike!
You’re a big guy. I’m 6 foot. 235 and the Honda Valkyrie just fits!! Everything is big and great handle bars u don’t get anymore from anyone. A good used Valkyrie can be 4000 or so. Mines a 2000. Yellow and black 🐝 and only 27 k miles and mint shape. I’m anal about that 😂. 6 cylinder and runs forever. (300 k miles) And with cobra pipes ohhhhh my god!!!!!! Get summmmm!!!!!
you don't understand why its a retro
I suppose you are right - thanks for watching.
I totally agree with you. I love the Z900RS Cafe but it's way overpriced. Even with the SE edition (fugly paint in my opinion tho), the new 2022 XSR900 with lots of new electronic rider aids, tft clocks and cruise control is quite the bargain, starting at $9,999 plus Yamaha freight, etc. I think I'm headed in that direction. I really enjoy your channel, thanks for posting some great videos =]
It’s priced competitively with bikes in its class like triumph speed twin. Yamaha is just on another level in terms of value. More hp, torque about the same, full sweet of electronics. Only thing I don’t like is the small tank on the xsr900
Not overpriced for what you are getting imo Harleys are overpriced
@@xclent1975 True... Harleys in there own league (apparently)
@@Adventure_blac yes i agree, and i guess way overpriced for a 1/4 fairing naked bike, but yes, it's still reachable compared to harley's etc.
Overpriced? $12k for a great 4 cylinder motor with an amazing paint job doesn’t sound bad to me. If you have never seen the Candytone Blue version in person I think it would make you change your mind about the quality of the bike and the value.
There is a reason to buy the Z900RS. It's because it's a reto on one of the most iconic bikes ever made. The Z1 or the KZ900. Why buy anything else. You don't really up grade a iconic bike much. Really I would have an original KZ900 with all new better up to date parts. I would never looks at the other bikes. They are ugly to me. I can understand where you are coming from. Where I'm coming from is an original buyer of a brand new KZ900 in 1976. So the other than reto models don't do anything for me. The money difference doesn't matter either. The only thing I don't like about the Z900RS is the ugly back fender & single rear shock. The back half of the motorcycle doesn't fit the front half. It probably needs a good set of 4 into 1 pipes also.
I am glad that he decided not to buy it because it is selling like a hot cake now.
They should - they seem like fantastic bikes.
I haven't seen one at my local dealership yet though - they have a 650 RS that is pre-sold before arrival but I haven't heard anything about a 900 RS coming in
@@WaltInPA You can always place an order for specific color, seat, - - -, etc.
@@WaltInPA The very first time I rode on my 2019 Z900RS I thought it was an electric bike because the engine is so dead smooth and powerful.
This is because your brain has made the decision instead of your heart.
I understand.
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Quad lock
Poor review take no notice of this review... they are awesome bikes
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It’s $13,449
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An original one is less money....
Back when I was shopping for a bike 2 years ago, my local dealer had a 2018 Z900 RS Cafe for somewhere between $6k and $8k.
Looking back, I regret not taking a more serious look at it.
You should be able to avoid all these no non-sense sur charges it is getting ridiculous
I don't think u understand what the kawasaki really is...
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Et bien, tu en racontes des chosese pour ne rien dire...
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The RS is more than the z900 for a few reasons, biggest being the RS is built in Japan as opposed to Thailand for the z900.
The SE, if you don’t have a boner for Ohlins and the Yellow Ball paint, can be replicated with K Tech valve kit and K Tech shock. TBH, a shock and flash transforms the RS.
The 2022 z900 was built in Japan. At least that's what the sticker says on the bike.
Forget everything you’ve said , I’ve owned an rs for 2 years . Lovely bike , buying an se next year x lovely bike . Look great , sound great . The standard z900 is a great bike but looks like a transformer . The rs looks great .
I completely understand that - even my Honda CB650F gives off a Transformer / Mechanical Bug vibe (I think it has a lot to do with the hard lines on the headlight). I think if I were in the market for a 2022 Z900RS, I would absolutely spent a little more and upgrade to the SE.
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@@WaltInPA that Honda 650f is not a bad bike either
Ive owned a 2007 Z1000 and a 2017 Z900 both naked bikes, both I bought used. Loved both bikes....
The z900rs have a very cool retro look. 😎🤙🏻
When it comes to a lot of naked bikes (my Honda CB650F included) they have a sort of transformer / futuristic mechanical bug look to them. The retro Z900RS went in the opposite direction with the styling and I think that is why I like it so much.
You keep repeating there are better options available but you do not name them. Z900 is not the same category.
To sum up your video: "I am not buying the motorbike because I think it is expensive. Why? I do not know. Just feel like it."
I am writing this mean comment because you have a very good presentation and I feel frustrated that the content did not match the form.
Ride safe.
Life is short, buy the bike.
💪💪💯👏👏👏
The new bike has been on order since September. Supply chain issues and chip shortages have turned this whole process into one big waiting game.
I get what you mean as far as bang for your buck, that being said the z900rs SE is going to hold its value. I don’t have a exact number as far as how many are coming state side, but I know mine was hard to find. I put my deposit down a month ago and prolly won’t be here until early next year. I’ve been on both the z900 and the z900rs, worlds different in fit and finish. You get what you pay for, it’s just not something you see in the numbers. Long rant I know lol. Liked your video man and I’ll prolly make one of the SE when it comes in. Cheers
I've been keeping an eye out for a pre-owned z900rs and they don't come up very often (at least not locally to me anyway). It seems like one of those bikes that people are happy with and hold on to.
If I were going to buy a new 2022 z900rs I would definitely spent a little more and upgrade to the SE.
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I was going to put a deposit on a yellow ball but after tax plus, and destination fee of $700 plus $200 set up fees… l was around $15500.00 l opted for a low mileage bike. And l found one with 200 miles on a 2018. For $9000 that in my opinion that was a deal. I’m a happy camper can’t wait for spring here in Michigan
The truth is the Z900RS isn't for you. I just purchased my 2023 Z900RS in Diablo black and Imperial red, total cost on the road was $12,430. It is my opinion this bike was marketed towards us, the older generation that grew up owning the original Z1s and KZs. If you understand the history of the "superbikes" and how Kawasaki waited to release the Z1 and completely blew Hondas 750/4 out of the water with the Z1, you'll start to understand what exactly the bike represents. The new Z900RS is no longer the fastest production bike, but it doesn't have to be. For the generation this bike is marketed towards its a home run hit. Just to think Kawasaki pays homage to that time in thier/our history is very heart warming to us old timers. I for one no longer need the speed, but to be able to look at, and take a couple of hundred mile cruise remembering my old Z1s & KZs absolutely does it for me. Kawasaki has absolutely hit a home run with this retro bike. What's that worth to me......priceless.
P.S. this new bike is so much better than the old originals. I personally do not want all the modern electronics a go dad's, he'll I'd have paid more for my new truck if it didn't have all the gadgets it has. Just my humble opinion.
Hi, I'm very happy with my Z900 RS,I bought her in 2018 and it hasn't had the slightest problem until today, I've had many motorcycles, this one is very comfortable ,it responds to every request you demand, also she could be a monster too:)
My 1980 CBX still looks new, keeps its value, and it's retro.
exactly! This video makes very little sense.... the thinking is askew
I know nothing about these Kawasaki motorcycles, so I can’t add any value here. I just wanted to say how I like how you came back at the end and gave the information you did. You are very good at explaining your mindset for your decisions.
Thanks for the kind words!
@@WaltInPA 👍🏻 You’re welcome!
You can look at the z900rs competitor the Triumph speed twin and and one is a very good value for the price plus it comes with all the new tech.
But the RS a very good looking machine specially the SE. plus those retro bike hold their value pretty good
I have a friend with a Speed Twin - they are nice looking bikes 👍
It looks like Yamaha has updated the XSR900 for 2022 - that has caught my eye as well.
The Z900RS has more modern technology than the Speed Twin:
fully adjustable forks, mono-shock with linkage and adjustable rebound, modern tubular frame design, large LCD with tons of info incl. gear indicator that is discrete.
It's also 2in longer, has a larger fuel tank but weighs slightly less, much more comfortable seat and ergonomics, and is about $800 cheaper.
They are both good bikes, but the Triumph is an old tech bike with an old engine highly compressed to barely make 100hp and with some expensive parts (Marzocchi forks, Brembo M50 brakes) thrown onto an old frame and shock design.
The Z900RS is a truly modern bike dressed up like a classic Z1 bike from the 1970s. The engine is down-tuned for more torque, and the compression is much lower than the Triumph's (10.8:1 vs 12.1:1). Even so, for a few hundred Dollars you can tune the bike to make 120hp at the wheel (ECU mod, different down pipe, air box mod)!
Totally opposite approach from the Speed Twin. With the Z900RS SE you will now also get the fancy Öhlins suspension and Brembo brakes.
The main difference I see is that the Speed Twin is a classic bike with classic high torque, low RPM engine characteristic, while the Z900RS is a modern bike with a high power, higher RPM engine characteristic only dressed up to look like a classic bike.
I can absolutely respect your comment but I do own an 18 due to color scheme. It is a beautiful and fantastic bike in my opinion. I hope you find one you love.
At some point I'd love to own one - maybe in a few years I'll come across one on the used market that I can't say no to 👍
The retro bikes look really cool. But you're right, you have to justify the costs of buying them new.
It is tough - I'm a big fan of the retro style but the sticker shock on a brand new Z900RS certainly gives me pause.
Another option is finding new old stock. I picked a 2019 Z900rs cafe back in August 2021 for about the same price as a new year standard model Z900. Two/three years old, zero miles, and it's been a lot of fun (and a comfortable ride)!
I would love the 22 rs in blue!!! With the storage fees and other made up fees BIDEN has added to any purchase chases any hard working person away!!
A little long in the tooth you say, its a throw back from the 70's. Why bother adding extra cost for the sake of it? Just leave it as basic as possible.
I would'nt buy the Z 900 RS either. Thats Why I bought the Z900RS Cafe.When I was a teen ager I used to road race a fairly stock Eddie Lawson replica that didn't handle near as well or go as fast as my Z900 RS Cafe but whatever. I really would love a Honda Cbr900RR as well. But I'm 55 years old now and I dont road race any more so the Z900 RS Cafe makes way more sense. And I can still pull power wheelies. If ya wanna buy mine it has 886 miles on it and I'll sell it to ya for $7,500.BTW my Z900RS Cafe will come with an uninstalled Delkevic 4 into 1 exhaust. BTW I'm in Az so my bike is rust free. if your serious about wanting the bike hit me up. $7500 cash will get it and I can help arrange shipping.
That sounds like a pretty good deal. If I were still in the market I would give some serious thought to it. I bought a Yamaha MT09 SP a few months back.
The funny thing about the Z900 RS Cafe is the first time I saw it, I didn't like it. It did grow on me though - I think if given the choice I'd take the Cafe over the Base Model now.
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Do you want it or not if you want it it’s worth the price do you only live once or do you have a secret the rest of us don’t know about lol, treat yourself
Back in 2018 I wanted the spark black Z900RS but I found a left over black 2017 speed triple 1050 s brand new for $10,000. A no brainer. I still have a crush on the Z900RS.
Where in pa are ya?
That sounds like a great deal - you can't even get a couple year old Street Triple for that price these days.
I'm in Southeast PA - in the Pottstown area. Are you local to PA?
Delmarva power sports by OC usually has sales on them I got mine there when they were getting rid of the 21s for the 22 in July, was out the door with all fees and taxes like 11800
That sounds like an awesome deal. The couple I saw were more than that before the taxes and fees!
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Love the z900rs SE also, but Yamaha's 2022 XSR900 is the cats ass! Tons of features & power....And 4 G's less!!
I haven’t seen the newest generation in person. My local dealer had a 2020 a few months back and I thought that was an excellent looking bike.
great work, thanks for the help. really really want this rs se,. but really really think it is a bit over priced. the search goes on.
I feel the same way - I really like the new Z900RS SE but I don't want to pay the premium for it.
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I paid 12 000 with all taxes and fees for RS caffe 2022 . Is that a lot?
Walt, you have given good thought to your buying process...👍👍 .I am anxious to see what you chose!! 🤗 You will need new stickers and intro now!! 👏👏👏💯
I'm almost afraid to go down that path. Then I'd need a new logo, new intro, new channel stickers, new poker chips, and worst of all - a new hand made one of a kind motorcycle rock!
It is a waiting game now - the bike has been ordered since September and I'm still waiting on it to arrive at the dealership (those chip shortages and supply chain issues are becoming a real pain 😩)
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@@WaltInPA I really like the Kawy also, but I will wait for a good deal...
You talked about price. Have you actually ridden one?
Thanks for the shoutout! I still lust after the Z900RS... one day, one day.
Same here - I'd love to own one, just not for new MSRP 🤣
@@WaltInPA I found a way around that: My "buy all the Lego" thing is just a way to "earmark" the funds for a new Z900RS without my wife complaining... then, once I've spent enough on Lego, I find someone who's willing to trade, or I sell all the Lego and suddenly have all this money to buy a Z900RS with! It's brilliant I tell ya!
Purchased a z900rs for my first bike. Love it 💪
Bang for a buck you say???...my money is on Suzuki GSX-S750.
Before I bought my Honda I was taking a hard look at the GSX-S750. My local dealership had two and they both sold before I could check them out. Good looking bike 👍
You getting a goldwing
Not anytime soon - maybe one day when the kids are out of the house and I can cruise the open road for days at a time 🤣
My dilemma exactly. Do I go for an 900RS Cafe 2023 Black & Gold OTD$ for 13,500, or a Yamaha XSR 900 (Blue) for $10,700 OTD SSS. I think the RS will no longer be made and it'll get that desirability , but the XSR is modern, more power, cruise and quick shifter. I have an 2021 R9T-719 now, but keeping that, so this would be a second Bike I would love to go back and have an in-line 4, and that CP3 Engine is pure Gold....So I really have to Think...Be Safe
IK rijdt sedert januari 2019 met een z900rs toen nog naked gekocht, doch dit jaar in april 2022 uitgerust met Givi side carrier en topcase , ik ben blij er mee te rijden heb er bijna 20000 km mee
I found a stock 2018 Z900rs with 1800 miles last month, asking price was 8.5k, offered 8, and got it. I’ve put about 300 miles on it, and have to say so far I’m happy with my decision. It’s fun, and quick. Low range torque is amazing. I’m 6’ and it fits perfectly. There is a low seat option, not sure how much $$ for that, but I don’t need it. The money you save buying used can go towards any mods you want to make, or a bunch of new gear. So far the only thing I’ve done is add a radiator guard.
I’ve not noticed any of the problems you mentioned. The only thing I did experience was the sensitively of the throttle, some say twitchy or jerky. Yes it is sensitive, but I got used to it without any trouble. For new riders that could be a problem when encountering any situations that require quick coordination of braking, steering, and throttle control.
Sounds like you got a good deal. The last one I saw was around 8k (about two years ago). With the way pre-owned motorcycles have been climbing in value lately I would expect them to go for more than that 👍
@@WaltInPA yes, especially retail. I’ve seen them listed for as much as 10.9. It has the orange/brown metallic paint, and I believe that was extra by few $$. I just looked on CycleTrader and saw one, must be a holdover, with 6 miles, it’s listed for 12.7k, unbelievable. I could probably resell it for a tidy profit, but then I’d just want another one. Maybe I can hold onto it for a couple years, get my money back, and find a used Z900rs SE model. For the difference I’d spend right now I could add another bike to the garage.