Came by today as I dusted off my 18” Wilson 300HMR. Striking the steel target 🎯 at 100-200-300 yards reminded me why they call it the Hammer. It hits with authority!!!!, got carried away and went out to 600 using a Vortex 1x6 Strike Eagle and recticle holdover, no dialing. I will be keeping it close by, we rekindled our relationship and the Hmr makes me smile 😊 😊😊
i was about to tell you: "i'm pretty sure that if you remove the magneto speed you will get one hole group", but in the end you did it. That new thing is already hammering, very well done man !!
My experience with the Magnetospeed is that group size changes very little, but there is a point of impact shift depending on the loads. Thanks for watching.
I've been using the 300 Ham'r the past couple of years for hog hunting here in Texas. I built an 11.3", 16" and 18", got carried away I guess, I mostly use the 18" for hog hunting with thermal. I have only used the 130 grain Hot Core so far, but I just picked up 200 rounds of the 125 grain Pro Hunter ammo on sale and free shipping, will try them in the near future. I hope this cartridge catches on better and we can get more manufacturers loading ammo cheaper.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Will be looking forward to any follow up videos on the 300 Ham'r. Your videos come at a good time for me as I am considering reloading starting with the 300 Ham'r as loaded ammo is now pretty expensive. I use the 300 Ham'r for hogs so my preference are the mid weight 125-135 grain bullets for their combo of weight and speed. Thanks for the video.
What size handguard you running on the 11.3? I'll be running it suppressed with a Deadair keymo muzzle device with a Sandman S or Nomad 30. I have a 300 Ham'r 18 inch Urban Sniper build already that's a tack driver.
@@chrisp556 I snagged one of the Expo Arms 9.5" Enhanced handguards from Primary Arms on a clearance deal for 79 bucks, they use the Cross Machine Tool lockup system, I really wish Primary Arms still offered them, they are great handguards. I also have the 15" version on an 18" 350 Legend rig for busting hogs.
I like it and will be searching for a new barrel or an upper in .300 Hammer....thanks for the most pertinent information Dave. God bless, see ya next time!
Glad to see that you got the same great results with the Ham'r as i did. I haven't tried the 110 lehigh's yet. Im not a copper fan, but they seem like a winner. I believe they just moved up to next on my list. My 110vmax loads are almost identical to yours, and great fun to shoot. I look forward to more 300 Ham'r videos. Thank you sir!
Hey Mr Dave great show thank you. Shot a friend Wilson Combat AR was happy about it. Was in the fence your video has convinced me I should get one. Waiting to see next video
Great video. Love all the good reloading information. I have both 300 hamr pistol and rifle . Would like to see you work up a load for the 135 grain hamr bonded bullet. Keep the great videos coming.
picked up a barrel for this a few weeks after he introduced it. ive done a lot of load work, and can say 2 things. #1 Bill should have used a rifle length gas tube not that goofy intermediate one, and #2 it will exceed easily anything Wilson lists for data without getting into any pressure issues. side note, CFE BLK does very well compressed!
Maybe so. But I am not used to loading compressed loads yet. None of my other caliber/cartridges (16) have needed to get to compressed to have maximum velocity with certain powders. Even Bill Wilson suggest 1/2 of a grain less than max in his testing. Thanks for contributing your experience here.
That’s true about the CFE BLK. With some of my loads I have to trickle the powder into the case slowly or it will bulge when seating the bullet, but I don’t get any pressure signs.
Dave. Another good and very interesting video. Great shooting that gun and ammo combination is amazing. Thanks for sharing and take care. And Happy Father's Day.
You can’t possibly be that cheap Strohmeyer! You’re using free targets, I guess is what they say on them, and you’re shooting almost your whole video on one TARGET! I heard Chick-fil-A is hiring! Good Stuff, Strohmeyer! Keep em, comin!
Dave, why do you do this to me? Now I have to invest in another upper and reloading dies. Haha. That was absolutely impressive. Perfect little deer and hog outfit.
Had a lot of people asking me about this one, glad you did a vid! We're moving at about the same speed and weight offerings as a grendel, out of the same platform and barrel length, so what are we gaining? Of course a .30 projectile has different wound characteristics and id rather hit large game with a wider projectile :), I cant say I would be inclined particularly to hog hunt with grendel. There could be other considerations for what someone may have on their reloading bench as far as other calibers that use 6.5/.30. Dont mean to wander off into ballistics theory but
What you are gaining in HAM’R over Grendel is standard AR bolt face and proven stanag pattern magazines. You also have a far less picky gas situation with powder volume in the appropriate burn rates. The only plus on Grendel is projectile BC and I have gotten to the point where the reliability issues that come with Grendel cases just aren’t worth the hassle, especially in a suppressed platform. Anyone want to b&y 4-8 grendel based cartridge uppers ? 😂
@@dzhitshard interesting points you got there 👍. I've never had issues running my 28" grendel. Not even with Wolff. There's some utility having it and the 6.5 creedmoor, but you could say the same thing about 300', load for other calibers with that same projectile too.
Wow, that's a shooter! In that burn rate speed, you may also find good results with VV-N110 and VV-N120, both of which also have a decoppering agent. Is that pronghorn still out there, running around, Dave? 😉
With Ruger's new SFAR rifle, developing cartridges like this to fit in the AR-15 platform is now irrelevant. You can now get a AR-15 sized and weight rifle that can shoot 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. Can't wait for more development and additional cartridges to come along with that rifle line. Hopefully other manufacturers will take notice.
True, but the SFAR is proprietary for both upper and lower and made to reduce weight instead of an AR-10 platform. The 300 Ham'r only requires a barrel swap for Milspec AR-15 type lowers and uppers. That said, Ruger SFAR is a great innovation indeed.
Proprietary parts, QC issues, unreliable, make the SFAR irrelevant. Only 800 rds on mine and had to replace the gas block, it only cycles lighter bullets.
Don't know what the present situation with Hammer bullets is currently but previously it was the case that they used a somewhat brittle alloy with which the 'petals' would initially break off quickly and the base of the bullet would continue penetration. A competing bullet manufacturer I use employs a softer alloy and the petals fold and bend but generally do not break off. The wound channel of these bullets is devastating. As shooting for me is all about killing hogs and culling undesirable exotic Aoudad . . . killing power is most of what I care about. I would love to hear from anyone who has done comparisons of solid copper bullets.
Thanks for watching. I suggest watching Wilson Combat videos about the Controlled Chaos line of bullets. He has shot over 500 hogs on his ranch in Texas and designed this cartridge mainly for hogs inside of 250 yards.
I may have missed a sidebar comment but simply as an FYI Hammer Bullets and Lehigh bullets in 300 HAM’R are not the same. Hammer Bullets, as well as Lehigh make “fragmenting copper solids” and expanding copper solids. The Controlled Chaos is designed as a fragmenting copper solid.
I've noticed that the Wilson barrels come in two rifling choices. What did you select, and why? Good shooting and nice accuracy for your new cartridge and barrel.
I chose the 1-15 twist to shoot the lighter weight bullets that provide more velocity and somewhat flatter trajectory. Also there are more bullet choices in the 30cal. 95-135gn. Bill Wilson says on his blog that the 1-13 twist is better for heavier bullet weight stabilization. Thanks for watching.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Thanks, I've never gotten an answer from the Wilson website. I'm glad you knew the difference. I figured it had to do with bullet weight, but I like to get answers from the horses mouth so have stayed away from the barrel. I see he says he gets 100 to 200 FPS more from the Ham'r than you can from the 7.62x39, but for the price of the barrel or barreled action that Wilson sells I think I might stay with the Russian caliber. You could shoot for the rest of your life and not break even even if you hand load.
@@jerrywiese9722 Better to stay with what you are confident with. Again my purpose for my set-up is as a limited range 30 cal. to replace my old 30-30 saddle rifle. In my latest test I am shooting a 130gn speer @2,550fps. My barrel, gas tube, gas block and magazine total $330. But reloading costs are not included at least for many years of shooting.
I haven't hand loaded any ammunition for a few years, so humor me. If a person already has a 300 blk, what kind of velocities can be achieved from similar weight projectiles?
The 300 Ham'r shoots the 308 caliber bullets up to 160 grain limit. It exceeds the velocity of the 300 blk. by 200-300 fps with similar weight bullets and is inteded strickly as a supersonic cartridge, therefore it is flatter shooting. The 300 blk can shoot the heavier weight (over 160gns) and can be shot subsonic. Both cartridges in an AR-15 platform have a magazine limit of 2.260." Because the Black out has a shorter case, it allows for longer, heavier bullets than the 300 Ham'r.
The only bullets that mine won't shoot are 150 grain my 1 in 15 twist won't stabilize them 135 grain ftx bullets are as heavy as I have had success with
There’s only one caveat with your statements. If you subscribe to the belief that you need a minute of 1000 ft lbs to take a deer, the bullet weighs you using are done at 200 yards. To get past that you’re going to have to go to 150s. The best you’ll do with those is just over a inch+ @100, you’ll drop below that 1000 ft lbs mark somewhere around 250. It’s just not a 300 yard gun if you believe you need 1000 ft lbs.
Agree with you, but also I have to accept the conclusions of Mr. Wilson and his experiences of taking Deer out to 300 yards. For me and used as a truck gun with the 18" barrel, shots will be under 200 yards. Next test will be 125's and 130's. Mr. Wilson states that these weights are the better choice for the 1-15 barrel twist.
Came by today as I dusted off my 18” Wilson 300HMR. Striking the steel target 🎯 at 100-200-300 yards reminded me why they call it the Hammer. It hits with authority!!!!, got carried away and went out to 600 using a Vortex 1x6 Strike Eagle and recticle holdover, no dialing. I will be keeping it close by, we rekindled our relationship and the Hmr makes me smile 😊 😊😊
Have fun! Thanks for commenting here.
i was about to tell you: "i'm pretty sure that if you remove the magneto speed you will get one hole group", but in the end you did it. That new thing is already hammering, very well done man !!
My experience with the Magnetospeed is that group size changes very little, but there is a point of impact shift depending on the loads. Thanks for watching.
I've been using the 300 Ham'r the past couple of years for hog hunting here in Texas. I built an 11.3", 16" and 18", got carried away I guess, I mostly use the 18" for hog hunting with thermal. I have only used the 130 grain Hot Core so far, but I just picked up 200 rounds of the 125 grain Pro Hunter ammo on sale and free shipping, will try them in the near future. I hope this cartridge catches on better and we can get more manufacturers loading ammo cheaper.
Glad you have experience with this cartridge. My next work up loads will be with the 125-130gn. bullets. Thanks for watching.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Will be looking forward to any follow up videos on the 300 Ham'r. Your videos come at a good time for me as I am considering reloading starting with the 300 Ham'r as loaded ammo is now pretty expensive. I use the 300 Ham'r for hogs so my preference are the mid weight 125-135 grain bullets for their combo of weight and speed. Thanks for the video.
What size handguard you running on the 11.3? I'll be running it suppressed with a Deadair keymo muzzle device with a Sandman S or Nomad 30. I have a 300 Ham'r 18 inch Urban Sniper build already that's a tack driver.
@@chrisp556 I snagged one of the Expo Arms 9.5" Enhanced handguards from Primary Arms on a clearance deal for 79 bucks, they use the Cross Machine Tool lockup system, I really wish Primary Arms still offered them, they are great handguards. I also have the 15" version on an 18" 350 Legend rig for busting hogs.
I like it and will be searching for a new barrel or an upper in .300 Hammer....thanks for the most pertinent information Dave. God bless, see ya next time!
Best wishes on your new project rifle. Thanks for watching.
Glad to see that you got the same great results with the Ham'r as i did. I haven't tried the 110 lehigh's yet. Im not a copper fan, but they seem like a winner. I believe they just moved up to next on my list. My 110vmax loads are almost identical to yours, and great fun to shoot. I look forward to more 300 Ham'r videos. Thank you sir!
Thanks for your comment here. More bullet types and weights upcoming.
Hey Mr Dave great show thank you. Shot a friend Wilson Combat AR was happy about it. Was in the fence your video has convinced me I should get one. Waiting to see next video
As the old saying goes; So far, So good! Thanks for watching.
Great video.
Love all the good reloading information.
I have both 300 hamr pistol and rifle .
Would like to see you work up a load for the 135 grain hamr bonded bullet.
Keep the great videos coming.
Bill Wilson himself said the 1-15 twist does best with 95gn up to 130gn. Stay tuned for those videos.
Shooters world blackout powder 110 vmax 2775fps out of wilsons 18" barrel
Wow that's fast indeed. Thanks for watching.
picked up a barrel for this a few weeks after he introduced it. ive done a lot of load work, and can say 2 things. #1 Bill should have used a rifle length gas tube not that goofy intermediate one, and #2 it will exceed easily anything Wilson lists for data without getting into any pressure issues. side note, CFE BLK does very well compressed!
Maybe so. But I am not used to loading compressed loads yet. None of my other caliber/cartridges (16) have needed to get to compressed to have maximum velocity with certain powders. Even Bill Wilson suggest 1/2 of a grain less than max in his testing. Thanks for contributing your experience here.
That’s true about the CFE BLK. With some of my loads I have to trickle the powder into the case slowly or it will bulge when seating the bullet, but I don’t get any pressure signs.
Dave. Another good and very interesting video. Great shooting that gun and ammo combination is amazing. Thanks for sharing and take care. And Happy Father's Day.
Happy Fathers day to you also. Thanks Bobcat!
It really is an amazing little cartridge, I've got 2 ARs and 1 bolt gun chambered in it. Nice rifle, loads, and shooting there boss!
Thanks for the kind words here and for watching.
That was impressive! Great video Dave!
As the old saying goes "So far so good" But we shall see with further load development and on game short range performance. Thanks for watching.
Thank you.
Thanks for watching.
You can’t possibly be that cheap Strohmeyer! You’re using free targets, I guess is what they say on them, and you’re shooting almost your whole video on one TARGET! I heard Chick-fil-A is hiring! Good Stuff, Strohmeyer! Keep em, comin!
I spent 40+ years as a Financial Advisor and prudent financial advice to myself always leans to "Economy of Price and Effort." HaHa!
Dave, why do you do this to me? Now I have to invest in another upper and reloading dies. Haha. That was absolutely impressive. Perfect little deer and hog outfit.
What can I say. It's an affliction, I can not help myself. HaHa!
😂 That's what my dad said when he first saw the ham'r.
@@mattstrohmeyer5839 I guess I save money by letting your dad test for me. Haha.
@usafret4709 Really affordable. I believe he said the barrel is $300 and only sold by the inventor.
@@mattstrohmeyer5839 Sold. Rebarreling one of my AR-15s.
Good vid... thanks for sharing Dave
Thanks for watching
If 400 legend support doesnt pick up the pace i might need to do one of these to scratch the itch!
I like that comment "Scratch the Itch."
Those are some awesome groups! My experience with the magnetospeed is that it seems to shoot about 1/2-3/4" higher with it on. 👍
Agree. Thanks for watching and for your comment here.
Good shootin buddy I’m very impressed with that round keep em coming God Bless
Thanks, will do!
You have a keeper
As they say "So far so good"
Had a lot of people asking me about this one, glad you did a vid!
We're moving at about the same speed and weight offerings as a grendel, out of the same platform and barrel length, so what are we gaining? Of course a .30 projectile has different wound characteristics and id rather hit large game with a wider projectile :), I cant say I would be inclined particularly to hog hunt with grendel. There could be other considerations for what someone may have on their reloading bench as far as other calibers that use 6.5/.30. Dont mean to wander off into ballistics theory but
Suggest you watch Wilson Combat's 300 Ham'r videos, that is what got me intrigued enough to buy mine. Thanks for your comment here.
What you are gaining in HAM’R over Grendel is standard AR bolt face and proven stanag pattern magazines. You also have a far less picky gas situation with powder volume in the appropriate burn rates.
The only plus on Grendel is projectile BC and I have gotten to the point where the reliability issues that come with Grendel cases just aren’t worth the hassle, especially in a suppressed platform.
Anyone want to b&y 4-8 grendel based cartridge uppers ? 😂
@@dzhitshard interesting points you got there 👍. I've never had issues running my 28" grendel. Not even with Wolff. There's some utility having it and the 6.5 creedmoor, but you could say the same thing about 300', load for other calibers with that same projectile too.
Wow, that's a shooter! In that burn rate speed, you may also find good results with VV-N110 and VV-N120, both of which also have a decoppering agent.
Is that pronghorn still out there, running around, Dave? 😉
Yes, I hope so anyway. It's a doe and hopefully can make more babies. HaHa!
Nice!! Look into a Garmin chrono. with all the shooting you do.
The Garmin sounds great. The Magnetospeed works well enough for now.
With Ruger's new SFAR rifle, developing cartridges like this to fit in the AR-15 platform is now irrelevant. You can now get a AR-15 sized and weight rifle that can shoot 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor. Can't wait for more development and additional cartridges to come along with that rifle line. Hopefully other manufacturers will take notice.
True, but the SFAR is proprietary for both upper and lower and made to reduce weight instead of an AR-10 platform. The 300 Ham'r only requires a barrel swap for Milspec AR-15 type lowers and uppers. That said, Ruger SFAR is a great innovation indeed.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Thanks for your time!
Proprietary parts, QC issues, unreliable, make the SFAR irrelevant. Only 800 rds on mine and had to replace the gas block, it only cycles lighter bullets.
@@ita1iasta11i0n every manufacturer has had issues with something. this is just the beginning of a new wave of rifle designs.
Unless you don’t want double the powder and double the recoil to accomplish the same thing the smaller round will do.
mine will put all bullets in a 1.25 in group wilson barrels fantistic i have 16inch bbl its great took 4x12 off 2x7 lighter
Thanks for that information and for watching.
Wow !! Nice !!
Thanks for watching.
Que lindo que abrocha ese rifle Che 😊
Don't know what the present situation with Hammer bullets is currently but previously it was the case that they used a somewhat brittle alloy with which the 'petals' would initially break off quickly and the base of the bullet would continue penetration. A competing bullet manufacturer I use employs a softer alloy and the petals fold and bend but generally do not break off. The wound channel of these bullets is devastating. As shooting for me is all about killing hogs and culling undesirable exotic Aoudad . . . killing power is most of what I care about. I would love to hear from anyone who has done comparisons of solid copper bullets.
Thanks for watching. I suggest watching Wilson Combat videos about the Controlled Chaos line of bullets. He has shot over 500 hogs on his ranch in Texas and designed this cartridge mainly for hogs inside of 250 yards.
Wilson combat has copper expanding bullets now . 125 grain me . ( maximum expansion) . Might be one for you to try.
I may have missed a sidebar comment but simply as an FYI Hammer Bullets and Lehigh bullets in 300 HAM’R are not the same.
Hammer Bullets, as well as Lehigh make “fragmenting copper solids” and expanding copper solids. The Controlled Chaos is designed as a fragmenting copper solid.
My dream set up is 16 inch 308, 14.5-10.5 300 hamr, and 9-6 300 bo.
Wow, you seem to like "short barrels" indeed. Thanks for watching.
I've noticed that the Wilson barrels come in two rifling choices. What did you select, and why? Good shooting and nice accuracy for your new cartridge and barrel.
I chose the 1-15 twist to shoot the lighter weight bullets that provide more velocity and somewhat flatter trajectory. Also there are more bullet choices in the 30cal. 95-135gn. Bill Wilson says on his blog that the 1-13 twist is better for heavier bullet weight stabilization. Thanks for watching.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Thanks, I've never gotten an answer from the Wilson website. I'm glad you knew the difference. I figured it had to do with bullet weight, but I like to get answers from the horses mouth so have stayed away from the barrel. I see he says he gets 100 to 200 FPS more from the Ham'r than you can from the 7.62x39, but for the price of the barrel or barreled action that Wilson sells I think I might stay with the Russian caliber. You could shoot for the rest of your life and not break even even if you hand load.
@@jerrywiese9722 Better to stay with what you are confident with. Again my purpose for my set-up is as a limited range 30 cal. to replace my old 30-30 saddle rifle. In my latest test I am shooting a 130gn speer @2,550fps. My barrel, gas tube, gas block and magazine total $330. But reloading costs are not included at least for many years of shooting.
Very nice. Incredible accuracy from an AR platform. Anybody making complete uppers for this yet? (hint BCA 😅)
Yes, Wilson Combat. Search 300 Ham'r.
I haven't hand loaded any ammunition for a few years, so humor me. If a person already has a 300 blk, what kind of velocities can be achieved from similar weight projectiles?
The 300 Ham'r shoots the 308 caliber bullets up to 160 grain limit. It exceeds the velocity of the 300 blk. by 200-300 fps with similar weight bullets and is inteded strickly as a supersonic cartridge, therefore it is flatter shooting. The 300 blk can shoot the heavier weight (over 160gns) and can be shot subsonic. Both cartridges in an AR-15 platform have a magazine limit of 2.260." Because the Black out has a shorter case, it allows for longer, heavier bullets than the 300 Ham'r.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 thank you
What type of scale do you use for your reloads
Frankford Arsenal DS-750
350 legend steel mags work very well even better than 300 blk mags
Thanks for your input here and for watching.
No problem enjoy watching your videos
gmornin dave
Good Mornin' to you as well.
130 ham'r hot core over cfe blk rem 71/2 primer 2550 fps 18 inch bbl nice shooter max charge needs crimp tho
Thanks for the information. 125-130's testing soon.
The only bullets that mine won't shoot are 150 grain my 1 in 15 twist won't stabilize them 135 grain ftx bullets are as heavy as I have had success with
There’s only one caveat with your statements. If you subscribe to the belief that you need a minute of 1000 ft lbs to take a deer, the bullet weighs you using are done at 200 yards. To get past that you’re going to have to go to 150s. The best you’ll do with those is just over a inch+ @100, you’ll drop below that 1000 ft lbs mark somewhere around 250. It’s just not a 300 yard gun if you believe you need 1000 ft lbs.
Agree with you, but also I have to accept the conclusions of Mr. Wilson and his experiences of taking Deer out to 300 yards. For me and used as a truck gun with the 18" barrel, shots will be under 200 yards. Next test will be 125's and 130's. Mr. Wilson states that these weights are the better choice for the 1-15 barrel twist.
@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 The 125-135 bullets have been amazing for me!!!
Cool got 3 of these
Great rifle/cartridge. Thanks for watching.