Naval Buying & Talisman Guide 2023 [War Thunder]

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  • Опубліковано 24 жов 2024

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  • @zzmuffin2
    @zzmuffin2 11 місяців тому +48

    Napalm being one of war thunder stop naval content creators is something I did not predict. Ty napalm

  • @Napalmratte
    @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому +20

    0:00 Intro
    0:41 USA
    5:55 Germany
    11:20 Soviet/Russia
    16:15 Great Britain
    19:15 Japan
    24:10 Italy
    27:08 France

    • @mr.harness1444
      @mr.harness1444 11 місяців тому +1

      What could be so wrong with poor akebono-chan that you just ignore her existanse?))

    • @The_White_Warlord
      @The_White_Warlord 11 місяців тому

      Will they add Montana class in the future?

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому

      @@The_White_Warlord I guess so

  • @Lord.Kiltridge
    @Lord.Kiltridge 11 місяців тому +17

    I just spent 13 million SL buying the 72 vehicles I researched over the past year at half price.
    I only have 126,800,000 SL left. The Frank Knox is free this war bond season.
    Pineapple pizza is Canadian...

    • @wt_ananas
      @wt_ananas 7 місяців тому +3

      Pineapple pizza? That was random XD

  • @Tirpitz-1944-
    @Tirpitz-1944- 11 місяців тому +17

    Please stay with naval man

  • @nitebones1
    @nitebones1 11 місяців тому +8

    i got my self the des moises back in summer when it was on sale and had enough ge from the pack to also pick up the moffee, it helped carry me threw operation summer, but also is just such a good money making pair that even with out any boosters or premium time it has completly removed any lion problems in game

  • @Sceptreshot
    @Sceptreshot 11 місяців тому +9

    I am more than disappointed with the state of the British tree, its not as if there aren't options. Not to be cliche but Britain had the primary naval force between 1900 and 1944. Its the one area we should be truly competitive in.
    We could have the R class, QE class, HMS Erin, Hell i'd even take a sister-ship to Hood. How can the UK have the lowest number of 6.7-7.0's?
    I'd rather they removed Glorious and Invincible and replace them with Queen Mary, Lion or Tiger just to give us something good.

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 11 місяців тому +1

      But...hood is only ship of its kind. +There is south american battleships that were made in britan and were confiscated when war started, they will be a nice addition too.

    • @Sceptreshot
      @Sceptreshot 11 місяців тому +2

      @@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Hood had 3 sisters which were laid down but never completed like the Kronshtadt or the new Sachsen. So any of her sisters could be added.
      As for the South American Battleships, I included the Turkish HMS Erin because she has the armour to compete but HMS Agincourt and HMS Canada have only 9 inches of armour but 10-14inch guns and a lot of them. They'd have to be at a higher br than their armour is worth, so i'd rather we got jus true British battleships with no trade-offs.

  • @thequintanahomestead3820
    @thequintanahomestead3820 11 місяців тому +4

    I really like where naval is going I hope to see submarines added soon I think it would work really well and also work as a counter to people who just camp behind islands not contributing to the team effort

  • @scharnhorstenjoyer1936
    @scharnhorstenjoyer1936 11 місяців тому +6

    I actually bought a talisman for the duilio. I personally had a great time in her and the Andrea doria and from my experience so far, i didn’t really see it as a lost. And so far atleast its working, tho i do understand and know about the cons it has.

    • @bobdole6768
      @bobdole6768 11 місяців тому

      Andrea doria is great imo

  • @The_Hussar
    @The_Hussar 11 місяців тому +3

    Nice and informative video. It already confirmed my decision for Myoko which I got earlier today, I already had the PG-02 and they make a nice combo. Hopefully the Fuso is not that far away now.
    I am also on the fence whether to talisman the Scharnhorst as I don't see any better candidate may be wait for the Sachsen, I already have it on the Kaiser.
    I am glad that the naval stuff is not being forgotten as it usually happens. Cheers and have a great day!

    • @thequintanahomestead3820
      @thequintanahomestead3820 11 місяців тому

      The fuso is a beast you will love it

    • @The_Hussar
      @The_Hussar 11 місяців тому

      @@thequintanahomestead3820 thanks, I hope I will be able to grind it until the Winter sale so I can put a talisman on it. Cheers!

  • @jacawandersmok9043
    @jacawandersmok9043 11 місяців тому +3

    22:50 uu thanks i got it With IJN nave now i know hot to fix my bout! ;]

  • @harryshuman9637
    @harryshuman9637 22 дні тому

    While British tree does kinda suck (I have it), they have best 4.7 destroyers and 5.7 cruisers. The destroyers are excellent at mopping the floor with coastal fleet, expecially the HMS Tubruk that trades one of the heavier batteries for 2 sets of additional twin 40mm cannons.
    It's true that their 5.7 cruisers cannot deal with 6.7 battleships, they are also excellent at fighting other cruisers. The SAP shell has enough armor to go through any cruiser, and they are extremely fast firing. I absolutely love British cruisers, but I would go with the Liverpool + HMS Kent.

  • @MuRevo122
    @MuRevo122 11 місяців тому +1

    I agree with you on the Italian and French tree. However, to be fair the French is very new to the game and Gaijin didn't had the time to add more ships to it. I'm hoping they will not forget the french tree like they did with Italy.

  • @akulasturgeon1580
    @akulasturgeon1580 11 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the vid Napalmratte

  • @SuwinTzi
    @SuwinTzi 11 місяців тому +2

    So youtube's automated system flagged my previous question as spam for some retarded reason so now I can't even ask about which option would be better in my case.

  • @gonzalofernandez3993
    @gonzalofernandez3993 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, great video!!

  • @ThePsychoAnon
    @ThePsychoAnon 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for this one napalmratte!

  • @jasonlanyon9691
    @jasonlanyon9691 10 місяців тому +1

    Am i the only one who does not have the des moines available to them? It was there, completely disappeared off the menu after latest update

  • @Sonoran.Monsoon
    @Sonoran.Monsoon 11 місяців тому +1

    Man had me excited for the Prince Eugen on the GE sale and it’s a pack! The wait is killing me. :)

    • @Omega_Mark
      @Omega_Mark 11 місяців тому

      Eugen was 5.7 and they upped it to 6.0 :(.

  • @spacekraken666
    @spacekraken666 11 місяців тому +4

    I already have USS Moffett and there's nothing for me to research at those tiers anymore, but i'm thinking if i should get the Frank Knox?
    Allen M. Sumner and Gearing are my favorite destroyers in WT, so Knox looks like a very nice ship to play and farm SL. Especially since Prinz Eugen got moved to 6.0, so being a 4.7 ship you will never meet them anymore.
    Also i just realized that Gaijin stole a torpedo launcher from my Gearing and i didn't even notice. 800 GE to get it back?

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому +3

      Well there are worse Investments in War Thunder

  • @talalalkalha9874
    @talalalkalha9874 8 годин тому

    Please do a video on naval crew skills and thank you

  • @mit4c
    @mit4c 11 місяців тому

    I love mortars on lubeck :D when you mentioned that they re for experts i totally agree :D but if you hit it puts a smile on your face

  • @jPlanerv2
    @jPlanerv2 11 місяців тому +3

    I put Talisman on Newsport news and im happy with it , i recently bought her with coins i got for selling losat

  • @Bezem1944
    @Bezem1944 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey man, can you provide info on battleships for GE? You just say "it will be on sale next time" but no feedback on how good are they and they are currently on sale :)

  • @ousou78
    @ousou78 11 місяців тому

    21:23 I would actually go for a Mogami or Tone Talisman (I put a Talisman on Mogami when Tone wasn't out)
    Japan 8 inch are decent vs other cruiser but more importantly their numerous Long Lances are the Doom of Obvious captains that sail straight or stay still (which happens way more than it should).
    EDIT: nevermind I forgot the Rank changes with top tier being tier 7 and those cruisers being Tier 5 now, I don't know if it's still worth it.
    EDIT2: 23:50 You should try JDS Ayanami, it used to be very fragile but its damage modele got buffed. With its 3x2 76mm AP it eats SKR7 for breakfast and sealclub early destroyers.

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому +1

      Well I need to give it a Go then again. Was Not impressed with it the First time

    • @ousou78
      @ousou78 11 місяців тому

      @@Napalmratte have fun if you do, but be sure to have the APHE rounds because the stock grind with HE only was Hell.

  • @piotra71
    @piotra71 11 місяців тому

    Great work. You should do this for ground and air.

  • @kahy026
    @kahy026 11 місяців тому +1

    ty great video, i like it

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому

      Glad to hear that! 😊

  • @zidanepatel-g4t
    @zidanepatel-g4t 10 місяців тому +1

    Where did the uss de monies go

  • @rayhill1
    @rayhill1 11 місяців тому

    So absolutely nothing for France eh? I must admit I'm very disappointed with the state the tree released. Not only the lack of iconic ships but the lack of coastal boats which are one of my favorites.

  • @vitorsimoes4435
    @vitorsimoes4435 11 місяців тому +2

    Napalm, if you could choose only one premium ship for a beginner in naval that is fun and prints SL which one would it be?

    • @DavidSClass
      @DavidSClass 11 місяців тому +6

      Frank Knox

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому +4

      Yeah Frank Knox or Overall the DDs

  • @totallylegit4092
    @totallylegit4092 11 місяців тому +1

    Hey man.
    Thanks for this. Been looking out for it.
    I am finishing up my US tree, so I was looking at a new line to grind.
    I am considering getting the Marat at xmass, but I was wondering if I should get a second ship to go with it?
    The Moffet and the Fort Knox proved such an amazing grinding combo, when one died you still had the other, but I dont see an obvious combo with the Marat.
    Any suggestions?

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому +1

      Marat is alone AS Long AS you haven't researched Kronshtadt

    • @totallylegit4092
      @totallylegit4092 11 місяців тому

      @@Napalmratte Oh I have not touched the USSR line...the perfect place to start when you buy a premium.
      Glad to know I dont need more than just the 1 ship this time round :D

  • @adlkmsclencasdmgter
    @adlkmsclencasdmgter 11 місяців тому

    What do you think about the possibility of Myoko’s BR being nerfed to 6.0? This is what makes me hesitant to buy.

  • @RobertCekus
    @RobertCekus 11 місяців тому +2

    For me the USS Helena and the US Desmoines are the best Premiums. Is was so often killed by the USS Helena and the US Desmoines. This Ships are deadly!!!

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 11 місяців тому +1

      Both are need other Helena/moines or battleship to kill. Who thought that adding a semi-auto 203mm is a good idea? Twice.

    • @RobertCekus
      @RobertCekus 11 місяців тому

      @@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Desmoines is absolutely deadly.

  • @lordfalcon787
    @lordfalcon787 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm not sure i agree with the Helena choice, as with my second battle (ever) with it, I got 7 kills and 200K SL and 11K RP with only premium account. My first one I got 2 Kills and 100K Sl but I think the 6 inch AP really punches into Heavy/light cruisers

  • @jdburton81
    @jdburton81 10 місяців тому

    @napalmratte Is the Mikuma worth it now at Tier 5? Or is there a tier 4 Japanese bluewater ship that would be good to talisman?

  • @MiG21fanboy
    @MiG21fanboy 11 місяців тому

    The prinz eugen aint going on sale, on ps4/5 the packshot are always a week earlier on sale

  • @kaanbalc6072
    @kaanbalc6072 11 місяців тому

    Is yamashiro any good?

  • @wagnernicacio8700
    @wagnernicacio8700 9 місяців тому

    Do you think helgoland is good with talisman?

  • @leveler74R
    @leveler74R 11 місяців тому

    Still waiting for zumwallt class battleship

  • @ЕгорКнязюк-м9я
    @ЕгорКнязюк-м9я 11 місяців тому

    please advise the top ship from the packages. I was thinking about taking the USSR, but you said there would be no discount there. Thank you

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому +1

      Huh?

    • @ЕгорКнязюк-м9я
      @ЕгорКнязюк-м9я 11 місяців тому

      ​@@NapalmratteI'm sorry, my English is bad. Tell me which ship from those that will be sold in packages would you recommend

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому +1

      @@ЕгорКнязюк-м9я wait for chistmas Sales to get Marat at discount

    • @ЕгорКнязюк-м9я
      @ЕгорКнязюк-м9я 11 місяців тому

      @@Napalmratte And if you choose from what will happen now.

    • @ЕгорКнязюк-м9я
      @ЕгорКнязюк-м9я 11 місяців тому

      I am considering both small and large fleets@@Napalmratte

  • @PatrickMasonBurke
    @PatrickMasonBurke 11 місяців тому

    Can you reccomend strike aircraft premium or packs for use against naval crafts?

    • @alexturnbackthearmy1907
      @alexturnbackthearmy1907 11 місяців тому

      Idk, they all about the same. You ether find something with extremely weak AA (and sink with just any plane) or find somethng with strong AA and it obliterate you/you manage to bomb and then die/retreat if very very lucky. The only thing i can recommend it something with very big bombs (ju288/lacanster/pe8 kind of big) to nuke from great heights outside of AA reach or something fast with lots of bombs (something like P-47 or Wyvern?). Torpedoes are almost usless and only american ones are usable AT ALL.

  • @ddxzbdbzbzd8585
    @ddxzbdbzbzd8585 11 місяців тому

    Спасибо большое за этот гайд

  • @jokeysmurf3696
    @jokeysmurf3696 11 місяців тому +1

    We need submarines

  • @_OpFor
    @_OpFor 11 місяців тому

    thoughts on Akebono?

  • @davinci69
    @davinci69 17 днів тому +1

    30 ish minutes -> 30:08 💀🗣️

  • @cherchezlesoir7166
    @cherchezlesoir7166 10 місяців тому

    So, in fact you say: U.S. and RU...worth, Rest meh. So the complete Destroyer lines of GB F It anf JP are crap?

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  10 місяців тому

      That is oversimplifying it. Japanese DDs are unmatched in their torps firepower, UK DDs are good at bow in fighting, some German DDs have huge guns ... All a Point of perspective.

  • @micheal6898
    @micheal6898 11 місяців тому +3

    they really hate the british tree huh , haven't given them a battleship deisgned after 1918. and the Hoods armour in game Saves it from the hit that killed it Irl because the belt armour is too low in the water ...... these devs really are useless.

  • @Rage4411
    @Rage4411 11 місяців тому

    How can anyone say the moffett is good, can’t get more than 2 kills in a down tier

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому

      then you are using it wrongly. Use SAP and aim at the waterline. Sure, 5 inch 38s have been nerfed quite a lot but the shell volume kinda makes up for it!

  • @georgeszweden9497
    @georgeszweden9497 2 місяці тому

    Italian naval supremacy (i suffer)

  • @miguelgil7266
    @miguelgil7266 11 місяців тому

    Reddit

  • @theguardlorenzo5898
    @theguardlorenzo5898 11 місяців тому

    Nobody gives a shit about ships now that the economy is fixed and you can grind a good amount of money even on tanks or planes.

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому +5

      Shocking News for you, you are not everyone... 🤔

    • @theguardlorenzo5898
      @theguardlorenzo5898 11 місяців тому

      @@Napalmratte yeah, i guess ships its only second to simulator on how little people cares, if it even is, which is no profit for gaijin, but its more than 0.

  • @RobertCekus
    @RobertCekus 11 місяців тому

    Keinen müden Cent für Gaijin!!! Nur das was man sich erspielt an GE und SL wird investiert aber kein reales Geld mehr für diese Loser!!!!

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому

      Allein dadurch dass du das Spiel spielst bist du Teil deren Gewinn-Models. Das du keinen Cent investiert macht für die keinen Unterschied solange du noch spielst und ein Ziel für die OP Premiums abgibst

    • @RobertCekus
      @RobertCekus 11 місяців тому

      @@Napalmratte Ich spiele halt solange mit wie ich es vom BR schaffen kann. Bei der Marine bin ich sehr schnell draußen wenn ich BR 6.0 AB Setup habe und die Gegner bei 6,3 und 6,6 liegen. Vor allem wenn ich DesMoines oder viele Helenas sehe bin ich gleich von Anfang an raus. Schaue beim Schippern zuerst immer in die Statistik rein im AB Mode. Denn dort wird man gerne +1 Gematcht und das muss ich mir nicht antun.

    • @Napalmratte
      @Napalmratte  11 місяців тому

      @@RobertCekus also hast du gar keinen Spaß mehr am Leben

    • @RobertCekus
      @RobertCekus 11 місяців тому

      @@Napalmratte Doch nur nicht an Warthunder mehr.lol. Darum wird auch nichts investiert.

  • @kerotomas1
    @kerotomas1 11 місяців тому

    The main question is why would anyone play naval? And looking at the queues basically no one does.

    • @vavord5181
      @vavord5181 11 місяців тому

      Cope

    • @del-boy9984
      @del-boy9984 11 місяців тому +1

      At least you can see what’s hitting you in naval and can fire back before you die.

    • @Fable148
      @Fable148 11 місяців тому

      For me it's the events. And the hope they someday add Tirpitz or Bismarck.

  • @Red_Hot_Little_Pepper_Pupper
    @Red_Hot_Little_Pepper_Pupper 11 місяців тому +1

    I think Syonan like to her frigates, and slower and such or like sub chase should have better spawns. Not with pt boats but I have had fun whenever I have been able to get close and personal with the dyonan and just snihale many kind of destroyers, pt boats, etc. It used to be st on of fun as well before although too good.