@@HarmNone’m pretty sure you said like we could’ve had any other vehicle somewhere in the video? (I think) Rockstar hears this. Rockstar: ok!!! We’re gonna add an oppressor mark three
The irony of the Starling, is that the real life counterpart (Me 163) was as much of a junky deathtrap. Like more people died in the research and development of the plane, than died fighting against one. 😅 Just an awful piece of history.
In my opinion the comet s2 has ok handling as long as you just let off the gas when turning, the reason it's so weird to drive is because it has a glitch where it doesn't get downforce which is why it can be so floaty to drive. Also, I recommend using sport suspension as it seems to make it easier to drive compared to competition suspension
nerf is one but give us the same parts we can put on normal S2 they did the same with sultan RS classic less then the sultan classic, a lot of people think cabrio should of been just a option.
I once saw the real life counterpart passing by on my street. I was surprised because it looked almost the exact same as gta. Of course I had saw the car beforehand but didnt pay that much attention.
personally I dont like old cars, in real life because they dont have all the luxuries of new cars, in the game because I dont like the way they look, but I agree, rockstar needs to add more old cars for the old car community because I know there are plenty of them out there
I honestly can agree on what your saying about the vamos, but I’ve been mainly using it for drag racing since I got it earlier this week and omg it’s insane, it’s so easy to wheelie, especially with the wheelie bar, and with it it blows a lot of super cars completely away
@@riot973it's actually Stuntman's Mike's car from Death Proof. Chevy Nova, that's why you have the White Skull Livery and when you upgrade the roll cage you don't have passenger seats.And that is why it's got horrible handling but rarely gets damaged from crashing.
The toundra panthere isn't even that bad(if you have disposable amounts of money in game), but the thing that makes me not like this car is the fact that nobody(or at least, very few people) ever said 'man, i wish they added the alpine a110 in gta' while cars that almost everyone has been wanting like the miata, trx, another pagani, newer mercedes s class, bmw 7 series, bmw m5 etc aren't being added to the game.
@@yuss6928 and they should've added cars like the miata, a different pagani, porsche carrera gt etc before adding the alpine. I quite like the way the car looks but I'm afraid gta online will stop getting updates before we get the cars that most people have been wanting forever. Also I do not agree with harmnone on the car looking the same as the growler. He needs to get his eyes checked.
they have a newer bmw in the game and i aggree with the miata but the fact we got an rx7, An S2000, And a datsun makes me pretty happy with what we got
Honestly tho the downforce and therefore handling at high speed is lacking. It’s a great car, but kind of a glass cannon in chases. It actually make sense though since it’s AWD electric, the jnstant torque makes it nearly impossible to modulate. Some players are great with it, they’ve driven it so much that they understand the quirks, I’m just not willing to learn cause I go back and forth between 30 cars and the handling characteristics are too weird for me.
Honestly for the rc tank, when i see someone’s blip disappear without any notification it’s either the tank or bandit so i call my deluxo and hover around and as soon as i hear a lock on sound, i fire and once i destroy it i just go to where the persons blip was and destory them. Basically the deluxo is a great counter.
I use to feel like harmnone about electric cars until i mastered driving them. The radien is dope to me but it does take time to learn how to drive it.
If I'm gonna be honest I'm really surprised that you didn't include the opressor MKII. That's the noob vehicle that every bad sport/tryhard player loves to torture other players and ruin everyones day with in my book. Literally, when you said number one I was so expecting the opressor to rock up, I was saying "bring on the mark noob" then suddenly the starling comes up and I'm like "what?" XD
tbh, if the opressor mkii is going to be for grinding, then so be it, though have the opressor mkii NOT lock on to Players, though have it locked on to NPCs, thats my take on that. i will sometimes use the opressor mkii, though, i barely use it anymore cause of its missiles, i will mostly use the akula and some cars to stir things up, mainly the akula, cause of the stealth and having a 2 star wanted level, sometimes i will even use an avenger, though ever since the mercenaries DLC came out, here is my top 3 vehicles that i will be using, Number 1: the akula helicopter, there is no cool down for the missiles to be locked on to enemy NPCS, the chainguns are not good, though the homing missiles are good, and the handling is somewhat ok, if you get used to it. Number 2: the raiju, since it has engine uprades, i can't argue that this is the MOST fastest aircraft in the the game out there, however, there is a downfall for that, whenever one shoots 2 missiles out of that aircraft, there is a 2 to 3 second cool down time for missiles. for number 3: the itali GTO stinger TT. whopping speeds of 162 MPH, and has HSW upgrades and imunati tech upgrades, and this is the fastest land vehicles out there. Those are my top 3 vehicles i will be using out there. if i were going to go for off-road vehicles, it would be the hsw upgrade, that i don't know the name of it is. so, please correct me if im wrong, if this is what you plan on using to actually be using out there, please let me know. if i do need the opressor mkii, then it might be just for a prep or something like that. anyways, those are my top 3 vehicles that i have there. Another side-note: is im looking for top speed, not performance or handling, cause i get used to that quite fast.
The vamos is one of my favourite cars. It looks really cool and I like how powerful it feels especially when you wheely it. I think with hsw update tho it doesn’t feel as impressive
I’m still on old Gen, I absolutely love smoking super cars in the vamos with drag races, other then drag racing I don’t think it’s great to drive but I do rlly love the vehicle
Off topic but the sentinel wide body classic gotta be one the best vehicles rockstars ever added , between all its customizations , how fast it is , and how fun it is that thing holds the cake for the best car in the game rn …. That thing is so unexpectedly fast it’s insane how many ppl I catch off guard when I fly by them
The starling is very fun to fly for me I just suck at using it to dog fight, but compared to the raiju that has off radar capability the starling is a sitting duck if a raiju sneaks up on you
@HarmNone real talk for a second. I used to play the crap out of a PC game called Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe back in the day. It was a WWII flying sim obviously. One of the planes in that game was the ME-163 Komet which was actually one of the jets Germany introduced late in the war. It was very unique plane with a unique way of flying it (personally I preferred flying the ME-262). Much like GTA flying it was more like igniting a rocket for short bursts than steady flying with props or jet engines that are always on. You probably already know this but if not, the Starling is made after the Komet. If you've never checked out the history of the IRL plane you should. Very unique and interesting plane.
Fun fact about the Vamos. The guy that designed it based it on his own twin turbo drag Nova. He is also the same guy that made the Oppressor mk1 and mk2.
Well, like HarmNone said, that dude needs to be taken out back and shot. He MASSIVELY screwed up a beautiful classic muscle car that's practically undriveable!!! Put around much faster than NPCs and it's tiring to drive.
I usually checked out your car recos and the weekly recos, but i never considered subscribing? I have no clue why. But after watching this. Man, I had to subscribe. You're one of the few creators who's this frickin honest. Thank you for your insights, None-san.
I might be missing something, but would it not make more sense for the BF surfer custom to be a benny’s upgrade or something, considering the name and it just being a slightly better version of the previous BF surfer.
That overflod shifting can be better, there’s a way to manually shift your cars you have to have really good timing but when you hear the car shift or feel the controller shake you let go of the gas and tap the brake and e brake at the same time and get back on the gas and you’ll hear the car scream and make a different noise than a normal shift
The X80 is one of those super cars that i was never interested to get and i'm glad i kept that thought. Around the cunning stunts update when i started playing, i was more interested on the Itali GTB. Btw i do agree about the Starling, as a combat aircraft it's fine, but from a flying experience it's one of the worst, and when i've switched to the Molotok i was pleased lol
Its a nice and fast car, it might not be faster then other sports cars but the pariah literally dusts every car in the game and thats very cheap. Don’t put it on your list if you wanna race with it, just buy it for the looks
@@TeddHardy-fj3db the X80 and the Itali GTB are from the super class though. Although i'd use the V-STR or Issi Sport if we talk about sports car class. I do own a Pariah but i barely use it on freemode, never on races. I like to use cars like the 9F or the Slamvan Custom on races, for the purpose to get underdog wins, also variety 🙂
@@The_Noctu thats what im saying, the pariah still can beat them even though its a sports car. Realistically, its no point of buying a car if its gonna get dusted by a sports car worth half the price. The x80 handling is bad tho
@@TeddHardy-fj3db For me i would not use the Pariah, i don't like using which one is the fastest on each class, seems bland to me but i don't judge whoever uses them. Although something worth noting on races is that sometimes it's the driver than the car. Last time i had a race was on Grapeseed against players with lvl 100-300, they wee using Pariah and Itali RSX, and i was using the 8F Drafter and won with it cleanly. At the same time i still think the X80 is not a great choice all around, i'd rather use a combination of what i like and how comfortable the driving is in either freemode or races no matter its ranking, like the Autarch which is my favorite car 😄
Totally agree about the starling. It’s just not fun to fly. I sold it immediately when I needed to make space for the raju. Maybe I would have kept it if we had a decent amount off slots to store air vehicles but only for collection purposes like the electric cars😂
I like vamos, its steering like irl, I also like that u can flip it over so easily, so I try to not and it takes some skill to fast cornering but not flipping it😂
Yeah, I own one and while it surely doesn't drive like the other cars in the game, it drives as it should being a drag beast RWD muscle car from the sixties. Like, just learn how to drive, I barely crash mine when driving it and I'm not a wizard...
Don't hate me but the Comet S2 is my go to car when I street race. It took awhile to get used to the handling but I freaking love it. A challenging car that can be rewarding if you learn it.
Raiden is one of my favorite vehicles. If you upgrade everything to the max the handling becomes much easier and it hits max speed quickly. Great for cruising around in LS.
The X80 Protto with f1 wheels is honestly really fun to drive. The handling is awesome and I don't have any problems with it. Sure it is not the fastest car but I don't care as long as I have fun driving it 😅
I like the Raiju. It's a badass fighter jet but I thoroughly despise how it's the new oppressor mk2! Right when it was announced I knew griefers were jumping for joy. I know you can grief with pretty much anything but the fact that it can pop in and out of existence in a moments notice is far too broken and I pray it somehow gets nerfed.
Never seen anyone stealth attacking in the F160, but it has weak armour, rail gun or explosive rounds kill them easy. Also the cannons fire wide apart with a slow rate of fire so it’s not as bad as the laser really
I haven't really used it since the Devastate 8 came out. But I used to win a lot of Green Machine stunt races with the X80 Proto. The whole track only had like 1 S turn, rest of it was nice with smooth wide turns and straight line with loops. Seems like a track the 811 should of been great on, but it's traction is so poor it sucked even on that race. So being I think the next fastest straight line car at the time, the X80 really dominated Green Machine track until the Devastate 8 arrived. When did active spoilers start going bad though? Wasn't the T20 one of the first to have it, and that car is beloved, it was even the fastest super car for a while after, I think it came out in Ill Gotten Gains right? Didn't the... oh bloody hell what's it called, I haven't driven in quite some time, XA something or other? Didn't that have a active to, or does that have a normal spoiler? I remember that car being really grippy to. Was it with the Proto where active spilers started getting broken?
As mentioned above, the Surfer Custom could have been a Benny's upgrade at half the price, but it's an overpriced POS. And yes, the Vamos is crap. Just bought one at Simeon's and it's dreadful! After the test drive I did after I customized mine I definitely foresaw that I won't touch that POS from the garage I assigned cuz it's not enjoyable to drive at all!
Ngl to me cars with terrible handling are the best cars for just roaming around because they are the best cars for drifting around corners on full speed
For most of the vehicles i say yes... but sorry, not the lf22 starling. Imo it's intresting and unique...altough i don't do dogfights or fight players in general. I just like to own and fly that thing.
For the coil Raiden, Change the Wheels and tires, Upgrade Your Engine, Add a Spoiler, and upgrade your Brakes. When driving, Use L2 Brake instead of R1 brake, it is much more controllable. improvement will be marginal.
I was wondering if the Vamos was gonna show up or not. It's one of my favourite looking cars in GTA, especially with F1 wheels, but the handling is comparable to the Chernobog.
Dont do any dogfighting or anything but i like the starling. Its very unique unlike many other planes. Its kind of like a bigger oppressor mk1, since it is basically a glider with a giant rocket boost and the boost recharges much faster if you touch the ground. I just think its a quite a fun interesting vehicles in a game were so many things are just carbon copies.
The vamos is a drag car. Can’t knock an old muscle car for not taking turns as well as a race car. Like knocking a super car for poor off road performance
Starling is one of the most high skill ceiling vehicles in the game and it's a beast that can beat most things if you can fly with it, no wonder you put it in here if u can't use it :) And before you try to call me one of them im not, i don't use the Straling, I just have common sense.
VW Microbus has a little air cooled popcorn popper for a motor. IRL they can barely push 60mph with a tail wind lol. They aren't for getting anywhere in a hurry. I would say they perform better in the game than they ought to. 😂
I did so many vehicle warehouse sales, like 25 million profit, and I grew to love the X80-Proto doing those. It's not the fastest, and it handles alright, but it's the style and sound of it that I love. It looks very cool to me and I can fly down the city with it since I've driven it so much.
I understand the hate for the I&P tank but as someone that doesn’t play GTA for pvp, it is solid gold for dealing with try hard trolls. Especially after you blow up the bropressor they are inevitably using.
The electric cars I've driven were all pretty good at handling, them being the Khamilian at 100,000$ and the Ocelot Virtue at 2,235,000$ or free after completing the LS Drug Wars DLC
Honestly, it would have been better if the BF Surfer Custom was a Benny's conversion for the ordinary BF Surfer instead of it being a separate vehicle, because essentially, it really is nothing more than a Surfer with some addition customization bits. Performance wise too, I don't think it behaves any differently either
f22 starling is such a great plane... i would never regret buying that thing during my whole entire life. I use it sometimes too and it is so great plane... + it is based on the Me 163 Comet, which was aircraft during ww2 and one of my favorites too.
I drive a Panthere and Growler rather often but never thought about how similarly that they handle, I just like how they both have a classic look to them.
I'm with you Harmnone. If people like the Starling .. good for them. It's a good dogfighter? Tight turns? Ok... It doesn't handle like a proper plane. You almost need the boost to stay airborne. Your right HN it's like a glider with a rocket boost. It's like... Someone took a Mk 1 Oppressor and instead of making a MK2 Hoverbike, they tried to make it into more of an aircraft. Notice it still has only 2 wheels one in front of the other... Like a motorcycle.... The Starling is basically a unspoken variant of the Oppressor.
Driving the Vamos is like being in “snow mode” during the Christmas event. It’s just sad because it looks cool (especially with the skull livery), but is a literal death trap. I heard somewhere that it’s good for drag races because it has a good takeoff, but 50yrds later and the thing will start swerving without any input from your steering joystick/wheel. I just get the impression that the dev(s) who designed it did this intentionally to make sure that even the most savvy driver in GTAO will look like a completely out of control newbie who just likes hitting lamp poles and having head on collisions with otherwise easily avoidable opposing traffic and stationary objects 😅 Now if you want a beast muscle car that is probably top 5 in handling… go grab a Vapid Blade 👍🏾
100% agree with the pfister comet s2. I've had one lying around for a while and decided to test it out yesterday and I was shocked. I never thought of the turbo s as a drift car but I guess rockstar has some ideas of their own. Absolutely 0 traction especially at high speed. I wish this thing handled like the Growler.
clicked on the video expecting the GODAWFUL Tezeract to get another thorough Harmnone rinsing like other similar videos and left mildly disappointed; I imagine if you do do a pt. 2 the Tezeract gets the roasting it thoroughly deserves
Random comment, but we must have had a similar childhood. The world at war soundtrack (not sure tho), Spider-Man 3 ps2 soundtrack, BTD 5 soundtrack. Wow
@harmnone fun fact but in case you didn’t know, the headlights of the growler are actually from the car that the panthere is based on in real life lol making what you said seem even more true
I kinda prefer the Panthera over the Pfister Growler when it comes to looks. Also I must be in the rare minority who owns an Invade and Persuade tank but only uses it on NPC's when really bored.
Pretty spot on video man. Most the cars you mentioned you hate, ao do I, and for the same reasons too. However, I do love the S2, Vamos and X80 though. For their looks, not anything serious cause their performance SUCK. But they're awesome for just chill cruising in freeroam. Aside from dogfighting, yep, you right again. The Starling is garbage. Its alright for dogfights, but its easily taken out by several other jets though; B11, Pyro, Nokata (forget spelling) and Rouge. And now the new Raiju. The Starling isn't fun to just fly though. Too touchy and not smmoth.
Surprised you didn't hit that dude on the bike! 4:03 😅🤣👌🏻 i absolutely love the comet S2! It performs ok, but mainly i love the look of it, man It looks so accurate to the real porsche! agree, the customization is nutz! I love a nice porsche! Some of my favorite looking cars! They're beautiful and so smooth and elegant looking! Good stuff, man! 👍🏻 yeah, i like the vw bus surfer thing, but they should have just made it be updated customization for the regular surfer and not a complete new vehicle.
Heya there. The list is almost perfect but I should mention something. The cars that have severe understeer or oversteer are usually controllable by the driver easily in GTA. For example I would disagree with your opinion about the Comet S2. Yes, it has severe oversteer, simply overturning your back every corner. But the thing is you have to adjust your driving style according to what you drive. For example if you drive the S2 you have to engage corners via a driving technique called 'slip angle'. This means counting on the understeer to finish the corner facing straight, sacrificing speed *in* the very corner but having extraordinary speed leaving the corner. Polar opposite to this would be for example any 4WD car. Let's use my favourite, the Elegy Retro Custom. In this case you can use the throttle during a turn to decide your steering. (More throttle, more understeer) and either way, if you min-max the turn and precisely hold the throttle any time you need, it will make an incredible turn and a very fast corner entry and exit. There is a lot to GTA driving and I think not even Rockstar realizes what masterpiece they did with the individual cars in the game. Each holds different advantages and disadvantages but no car is ever downright bad, unless it is a meme vehicle like the Fagio or the BF Surfer Custom. Because every car's disadvantage can be turned into a severe advantage, again pointing to the S2. Also, handbrake is severely underutilized. Be sure to train more using the handbrake in corners. It is a lifesaver.
before hsw cars, the vamos was my favourite car in the game. It was such a sleeper if you could wheelie properly and it kept up with just about anything in a drag race. Plus it’s just sexy
Even though the surfer should be slow, it's not so slow that you have problems driving it. Depending on the version (1100-1500, different versions from 1950-1967) you have 85 to 110km/h top speed. That's somewhere between 52,8 and 68,4 in "We don't know how to make a useful system of units but act like we are better while we aren't" per hour. Edit: Also, I feel like there is a vehicle missing that one might say left 2 marks on the GTA playerbase
I just feel, as an American who feels this as a memeful personal attack on my cheeseburger measurements, that I should point out that Great Britain made imperial measurements a thing in the first place, and like the rebellious teenager we are, we rolled with it when dad banned it from the household xD You also shouldn't feel too safe, given the fact of that the British government has been considering reinstating imperial unit measurements in very recent times.
@@sylokthedefiled3047 Made in a time where there was no international standard. Meanwhile the US is the only one insisting to not use metric as the official measurement
@@sylokthedefiled3047The Brittish government isn't and never has seriously considered switching back to imperial. It was a random talking point from Borris Johnson that never was or could be taken seriously by the general public.
@@Hendricus56 Actually, we still use metric quite a bit. Especially in a military setting. You will almost never hear anyone give range callouts in yards/feet for a reason. Construction jobs also use metric most of the time. I'm honestly still not certain why anyone has this fetish for hating on Imperial units in the first place. I mean, a measurement is literally one of the most petty things to get salty/intimidated by, especially when it doesnt pertain to anyone outside of the US in most cases xD It's like arguing with someone over instant coffee vs coffee grounds from the same brand.
X80 Proto looks like the CO2 cars we used to build for tech class in highschool. It looks like someone took a Dremel to it and shaved off as much weight as possible within the assigned specs, and then it would disintegrate when the CO2 cartridge popped and half the car would make the finish line 😂.
The starling glazers have arrived
Seabreeze is fun
@GTA_Baris yes
As my friend being an Oppressor Mk2 griefer, he is glad he isn’t in the list.
I forgot what video I was watching when you mentioned the starling then my jaw dropped
bro just get better at using the starling bro
I love how HarmNone just did NOT hold back. That's a rare quality right there, respect
Facts he chose violence with this vehicle
Somebody has to speak their mind these days lol
@@HarmNone’m pretty sure you said like we could’ve had any other vehicle somewhere in the video? (I think)
Rockstar hears this.
Rockstar: ok!!! We’re gonna add an oppressor mark three
BF surfer custom is cool, but it should've just been an upgrade instead of a separate vehicle.
Exactly
@@HarmNone and the trackhawk brooo we could've had that!?! Like we all know the correlation to drug dealers man
@@texting_daily1💀
@@xziuma its true tho
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The irony of the Starling, is that the real life counterpart (Me 163) was as much of a junky deathtrap. Like more people died in the research and development of the plane, than died fighting against one. 😅 Just an awful piece of history.
In my opinion the comet s2 has ok handling as long as you just let off the gas when turning, the reason it's so weird to drive is because it has a glitch where it doesn't get downforce which is why it can be so floaty to drive. Also, I recommend using sport suspension as it seems to make it easier to drive compared to competition suspension
I agree, I would of picked the Comet s2 Cabrio its way worse than the Comet s2.
Yeah I kinda like the S2 it fits in with my collection of Comets that I have in my garage & out of all of them the S2 is my most used.
You should try a street race with it, you’ll know what he’s talking about
@@ragegaming2278 I actually prefer the Cabrio way more than the regular S2, 'cause it's not been a victim of Rockstar's Tuners nerf
nerf is one but give us the same parts we can put on normal S2 they did the same with sultan RS classic less then the sultan classic, a lot of people think cabrio should of been just a option.
I like the history of the starling. You gotta be absolute mad lad to fly something even the nazis were too scared to keep in the air.
They weren’t scared, they just stalled it and smashed it into the ground, Eric Winkle Brown mastered it though.
@@y_ffordd ahh skill issue
starling tard alert
@@misery978-🤡
u gotta be a mad lad to take the wright brothers plane up against spit fires and messerschmits
the only reason i like the panthere is because I love it's real life counterpart
That’s the only reason I have any respect for it tbh
I once saw the real life counterpart passing by on my street. I was surprised because it looked almost the exact same as gta. Of course I had saw the car beforehand but didnt pay that much attention.
Tell you what I hate, not having old cars in the game
personally I dont like old cars, in real life because they dont have all the luxuries of new cars, in the game because I dont like the way they look, but I agree, rockstar needs to add more old cars for the old car community because I know there are plenty of them out there
I like old cars but yeah im much more of a modern car guy
@evanxbdlt4312 tbh I ment the 200 cars they removed but yea older cars would be cool as well
@@slavcow lol i think the both of us got what you said wrong. But yeah it sucks that they removed a bunch of cars from the previous updates
Surprised he didn’t put the tezeract on this list 😂
Yep, he should have
I honestly can agree on what your saying about the vamos, but I’ve been mainly using it for drag racing since I got it earlier this week and omg it’s insane, it’s so easy to wheelie, especially with the wheelie bar, and with it it blows a lot of super cars completely away
yeah that's definitely a drag racing car
also its Al Bundy's car lol
and it looks really good in the muscle car collection
The Vamos gets up and goes off the line if you control it right it’ll beat anything in a drag race.
@@kennyadams6823 only cars i havent beaten are cars like the GTO, pariah bf weevil custom, etc (im on old gen so no hws
@@riot973it's actually Stuntman's Mike's car from Death Proof. Chevy Nova, that's why you have the White Skull Livery and when you upgrade the roll cage you don't have passenger seats.And that is why it's got horrible handling but rarely gets damaged from crashing.
The toundra panthere isn't even that bad(if you have disposable amounts of money in game), but the thing that makes me not like this car is the fact that nobody(or at least, very few people) ever said 'man, i wish they added the alpine a110 in gta' while cars that almost everyone has been wanting like the miata, trx, another pagani, newer mercedes s class, bmw 7 series, bmw m5 etc aren't being added to the game.
@@yuss6928 you're one of the very few people.
@@yuss6928 and I'm not American, I'm Asian
@@yuss6928 and they should've added cars like the miata, a different pagani, porsche carrera gt etc before adding the alpine. I quite like the way the car looks but I'm afraid gta online will stop getting updates before we get the cars that most people have been wanting forever. Also I do not agree with harmnone on the car looking the same as the growler. He needs to get his eyes checked.
@@yuss6928 I was genuinely happy that they added Alpine
they have a newer bmw in the game and i aggree with the miata but the fact we got an rx7, An S2000, And a datsun makes me pretty happy with what we got
"All electric cars in gta 5 are bad" introducing the Virtue, the answer to all of your needs
Not what he said, plus he likes the virtue
Thank you Soviet 🤝
@@SovietCheeseLordWas coming to comment the same thing. Buddy took it out of context fs
Honestly tho the downforce and therefore handling at high speed is lacking. It’s a great car, but kind of a glass cannon in chases. It actually make sense though since it’s AWD electric, the jnstant torque makes it nearly impossible to modulate. Some players are great with it, they’ve driven it so much that they understand the quirks, I’m just not willing to learn cause I go back and forth between 30 cars and the handling characteristics are too weird for me.
Honestly for the rc tank, when i see someone’s blip disappear without any notification it’s either the tank or bandit so i call my deluxo and hover around and as soon as i hear a lock on sound, i fire and once i destroy it i just go to where the persons blip was and destory them. Basically the deluxo is a great counter.
I use to feel like harmnone about electric cars until i mastered driving them. The radien is dope to me but it does take time to learn how to drive it.
That's what I was wondering. Is it skill issue for Harm with the ev's? 😂
@@DubberRucks the handling is terrible so it's all about learning when to accelerate and to brake. Once you get that down pack you str8
If I'm gonna be honest I'm really surprised that you didn't include the opressor MKII. That's the noob vehicle that every bad sport/tryhard player loves to torture other players and ruin everyones day with in my book.
Literally, when you said number one I was so expecting the opressor to rock up, I was saying "bring on the mark noob" then suddenly the starling comes up and I'm like "what?" XD
That's exactly what I thought😂
maybe in 2018 but not anymore
tbh, if the opressor mkii is going to be for grinding, then so be it, though have the opressor mkii NOT lock on to Players, though have it locked on to NPCs, thats my take on that. i will sometimes use the opressor mkii, though, i barely use it anymore cause of its missiles, i will mostly use the akula and some cars to stir things up, mainly the akula, cause of the stealth and having a 2 star wanted level, sometimes i will even use an avenger, though ever since the mercenaries DLC came out, here is my top 3 vehicles that i will be using,
Number 1: the akula helicopter, there is no cool down for the missiles to be locked on to enemy NPCS, the chainguns are not good, though the homing missiles are good, and the handling is somewhat ok, if you get used to it.
Number 2: the raiju, since it has engine uprades, i can't argue that this is the MOST fastest aircraft in the the game out there, however, there is a downfall for that, whenever one shoots 2 missiles out of that aircraft, there is a 2 to 3 second cool down time for missiles.
for number 3: the itali GTO stinger TT. whopping speeds of 162 MPH, and has HSW upgrades and imunati tech upgrades, and this is the fastest land vehicles out there.
Those are my top 3 vehicles i will be using out there. if i were going to go for off-road vehicles, it would be the hsw upgrade, that i don't know the name of it is. so, please correct me if im wrong, if this is what you plan on using to actually be using out there, please let me know. if i do need the opressor mkii, then it might be just for a prep or something like that. anyways, those are my top 3 vehicles that i have there.
Another side-note: is im looking for top speed, not performance or handling, cause i get used to that quite fast.
@@josephimai there’s still loads of oppressor griefers
@@aces3659 yet now there’s more than enough ways to protect yourself
The vamos is one of my favourite cars. It looks really cool and I like how powerful it feels especially when you wheely it. I think with hsw update tho it doesn’t feel as impressive
I’m still on old Gen, I absolutely love smoking super cars in the vamos with drag races, other then drag racing I don’t think it’s great to drive but I do rlly love the vehicle
Yeah, really it's blaming the car just cuz you don't know how to drive at this point.
Off topic but the sentinel wide body classic gotta be one the best vehicles rockstars ever added , between all its customizations , how fast it is , and how fun it is that thing holds the cake for the best car in the game rn …. That thing is so unexpectedly fast it’s insane how many ppl I catch off guard when I fly by them
And it’s a e30
its such a cool looking car as well
@@jochem420 Fr can never go wrong w the box cars
i wish they gave us upgrades for the zions
It’s actually awesome tbh
The starling is very fun to fly for me I just suck at using it to dog fight, but compared to the raiju that has off radar capability the starling is a sitting duck if a raiju sneaks up on you
Not if you are a pro
@HarmNone real talk for a second. I used to play the crap out of a PC game called Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe back in the day. It was a WWII flying sim obviously. One of the planes in that game was the ME-163 Komet which was actually one of the jets Germany introduced late in the war. It was very unique plane with a unique way of flying it (personally I preferred flying the ME-262). Much like GTA flying it was more like igniting a rocket for short bursts than steady flying with props or jet engines that are always on.
You probably already know this but if not, the Starling is made after the Komet. If you've never checked out the history of the IRL plane you should. Very unique and interesting plane.
Fun fact about the Vamos. The guy that designed it based it on his own twin turbo drag Nova. He is also the same guy that made the Oppressor mk1 and mk2.
Well, like HarmNone said, that dude needs to be taken out back and shot. He MASSIVELY screwed up a beautiful classic muscle car that's practically undriveable!!! Put around much faster than NPCs and it's tiring to drive.
@@GrySgtBubbaYou mean... Like an old muscle car from the sixties ?
I for one love the unbiased commentary you my sir have earned and will keep my subscription
Welcome to the channel 🤝❤️
I usually checked out your car recos and the weekly recos, but i never considered subscribing? I have no clue why. But after watching this. Man, I had to subscribe. You're one of the few creators who's this frickin honest. Thank you for your insights, None-san.
Much love welcome to the channel
I might be missing something, but would it not make more sense for the BF surfer custom to be a benny’s upgrade or something, considering the name and it just being a slightly better version of the previous BF surfer.
That overflod shifting can be better, there’s a way to manually shift your cars you have to have really good timing but when you hear the car shift or feel the controller shake you let go of the gas and tap the brake and e brake at the same time and get back on the gas and you’ll hear the car scream and make a different noise than a normal shift
my top 10:
1 oppressor mk2
2 oppressor mk2
3 oppressor mk2
4 oppressor mk2
5 oppressor mk2
6 oppressor mk2
7 oppressor mk2
8 oppressor mk2
9 oppressor mk2
10 oppressor mk2
The best fix for op mk2 - Remove the goddamn homing missiles
@@anwayroy4417bro shut up if you cant handle leave the session and accept defeat
@@magistermilitum1206 who asked for your opinion kid?
13:40 the moment I saw the X80 I was like “Yeah this thing sucks….but I absolutely love it.”🤣🤣
The X80 is one of those super cars that i was never interested to get and i'm glad i kept that thought. Around the cunning stunts update when i started playing, i was more interested on the Itali GTB. Btw i do agree about the Starling, as a combat aircraft it's fine, but from a flying experience it's one of the worst, and when i've switched to the Molotok i was pleased lol
Its a nice and fast car, it might not be faster then other sports cars but the pariah literally dusts every car in the game and thats very cheap. Don’t put it on your list if you wanna race with it, just buy it for the looks
@@TeddHardy-fj3db the X80 and the Itali GTB are from the super class though. Although i'd use the V-STR or Issi Sport if we talk about sports car class. I do own a Pariah but i barely use it on freemode, never on races. I like to use cars like the 9F or the Slamvan Custom on races, for the purpose to get underdog wins, also variety 🙂
@@The_Noctu thats what im saying, the pariah still can beat them even though its a sports car. Realistically, its no point of buying a car if its gonna get dusted by a sports car worth half the price. The x80 handling is bad tho
@@TeddHardy-fj3db For me i would not use the Pariah, i don't like using which one is the fastest on each class, seems bland to me but i don't judge whoever uses them.
Although something worth noting on races is that sometimes it's the driver than the car. Last time i had a race was on Grapeseed against players with lvl 100-300, they wee using Pariah and Itali RSX, and i was using the 8F Drafter and won with it cleanly.
At the same time i still think the X80 is not a great choice all around, i'd rather use a combination of what i like and how comfortable the driving is in either freemode or races no matter its ranking, like the Autarch which is my favorite car 😄
@@TeddHardy-fj3dbhandles great for me. So I’d be curious to try car thst handles better
Totally agree about the starling. It’s just not fun to fly. I sold it immediately when I needed to make space for the raju. Maybe I would have kept it if we had a decent amount off slots to store air vehicles but only for collection purposes like the electric cars😂
I like vamos, its steering like irl, I also like that u can flip it over so easily, so I try to not and it takes some skill to fast cornering but not flipping it😂
That's why I was wondering if it's a skill issue thing for Harm lol because some DO drive slippy like that 😂
Yeah, I own one and while it surely doesn't drive like the other cars in the game, it drives as it should being a drag beast RWD muscle car from the sixties. Like, just learn how to drive, I barely crash mine when driving it and I'm not a wizard...
Fr this dude compared the vamos to a supercar dubachi specter
Don't hate me but the Comet S2 is my go to car when I street race. It took awhile to get used to the handling but I freaking love it. A challenging car that can be rewarding if you learn it.
Raiden is one of my favorite vehicles. If you upgrade everything to the max the handling becomes much easier and it hits max speed quickly. Great for cruising around in LS.
I couldn’t get good lap times with it, the neon is far better
I mean it's nice but... the Neon demolishes it any day
The X80 Protto with f1 wheels is honestly really fun to drive. The handling is awesome and I don't have any problems with it. Sure it is not the fastest car but I don't care as long as I have fun driving it 😅
I like the Raiju. It's a badass fighter jet but I thoroughly despise how it's the new oppressor mk2! Right when it was announced I knew griefers were jumping for joy. I know you can grief with pretty much anything but the fact that it can pop in and out of existence in a moments notice is far too broken and I pray it somehow gets nerfed.
It’s not had to kill at all just because they can go on stealth, you can still see them in the sky, and hear the engines
Lmao, get a railgun and you'll be fine
Never seen anyone stealth attacking in the F160, but it has weak armour, rail gun or explosive rounds kill them easy. Also the cannons fire wide apart with a slow rate of fire so it’s not as bad as the laser really
i fw the entity mt i used it on the hsw time trial the other day and easily cleared it with around 8 seconds left it sounds amazing as well (to me)
I haven't really used it since the Devastate 8 came out. But I used to win a lot of Green Machine stunt races with the X80 Proto. The whole track only had like 1 S turn, rest of it was nice with smooth wide turns and straight line with loops. Seems like a track the 811 should of been great on, but it's traction is so poor it sucked even on that race. So being I think the next fastest straight line car at the time, the X80 really dominated Green Machine track until the Devastate 8 arrived.
When did active spoilers start going bad though? Wasn't the T20 one of the first to have it, and that car is beloved, it was even the fastest super car for a while after, I think it came out in Ill Gotten Gains right? Didn't the... oh bloody hell what's it called, I haven't driven in quite some time, XA something or other? Didn't that have a active to, or does that have a normal spoiler? I remember that car being really grippy to. Was it with the Proto where active spilers started getting broken?
Harm my boy you have the best video game soundtrack taste ever! Like fr, SOCOM combined assault?
Goated game I remember playing it on the PS2 😭
@@HarmNone bro I still play it 😂 emulator gang
Yea i hate the comet s2 as well the way i hate it is slides way too much btw i love your commentary. No oppressor mk2 thats a surprise
Take the invade and persuade onto the rollercoaster track and you may change your mind.
Its genuinly so fun to just drive and kill npcs
its also good for scouting out some areas were some tryhards are going mad😃
As mentioned above, the Surfer Custom could have been a Benny's upgrade at half the price, but it's an overpriced POS.
And yes, the Vamos is crap. Just bought one at Simeon's and it's dreadful! After the test drive I did after I customized mine I definitely foresaw that I won't touch that POS from the garage I assigned cuz it's not enjoyable to drive at all!
Ngl to me cars with terrible handling are the best cars for just roaming around because they are the best cars for drifting around corners on full speed
For most of the vehicles i say yes... but sorry, not the lf22 starling. Imo it's intresting and unique...altough i don't do dogfights or fight players in general. I just like to own and fly that thing.
For the coil Raiden, Change the Wheels and tires, Upgrade Your Engine, Add a Spoiler, and upgrade your Brakes. When driving, Use L2 Brake instead of R1 brake, it is much more controllable. improvement will be marginal.
I was wondering if the Vamos was gonna show up or not. It's one of my favourite looking cars in GTA, especially with F1 wheels, but the handling is comparable to the Chernobog.
Your opinion is incorrect
Sorry, but the Vamos drives almost exactly like the muscle cars of that era which is the reason I like it. Nostalgia.
Yep that one definitely sounded like a skill issue to me lol
Dont do any dogfighting or anything but i like the starling. Its very unique unlike many other planes. Its kind of like a bigger oppressor mk1, since it is basically a glider with a giant rocket boost and the boost recharges much faster if you touch the ground. I just think its a quite a fun interesting vehicles in a game were so many things are just carbon copies.
The vamos is a drag car. Can’t knock an old muscle car for not taking turns as well as a race car. Like knocking a super car for poor off road performance
Starling is one of the most high skill ceiling vehicles in the game and it's a beast that can beat most things if you can fly with it, no wonder you put it in here if u can't use it :)
And before you try to call me one of them im not, i don't use the Straling, I just have common sense.
exactly i feel that this guy has a fat skill issue on his end
Skill issue for Harm then? 😂
@@DubberRucks Yeah in "Reddit terms" its a skill issue for Harm
Do 10 vehicles that you LOVE next.
Yeah would like to see his top picks.
Skill issue?
at around 10:50 the music playng in the background pretty sure its skyrim right. the nostalgia just beat
The vamos is a drag car… I think it’s the best at wheelies for all muscle cars too. It’s super fast for drag racing
VW Microbus has a little air cooled popcorn popper for a motor. IRL they can barely push 60mph with a tail wind lol. They aren't for getting anywhere in a hurry.
I would say they perform better in the game than they ought to. 😂
One of the BEST videos you’ve ever done 🤙🏻🙏🏻 bro, do another one!!!
Is that the Halo reach music in the background?
Edit: and Skyrim? ❤
Yes & yes
I did so many vehicle warehouse sales, like 25 million profit, and I grew to love the X80-Proto doing those.
It's not the fastest, and it handles alright, but it's the style and sound of it that I love. It looks very cool to me and I can fly down the city with it since I've driven it so much.
I understand the hate for the I&P tank but as someone that doesn’t play GTA for pvp, it is solid gold for dealing with try hard trolls. Especially after you blow up the bropressor they are inevitably using.
The electric cars I've driven were all pretty good at handling, them being the Khamilian at 100,000$ and the Ocelot Virtue at 2,235,000$ or free after completing the LS Drug Wars DLC
Love the halo reach theme in the background bro!!!
Honestly, it would have been better if the BF Surfer Custom was a Benny's conversion for the ordinary BF Surfer instead of it being a separate vehicle, because essentially, it really is nothing more than a Surfer with some addition customization bits. Performance wise too, I don't think it behaves any differently either
I kind of want a video for weponized pickups...also I expected the oppressor mk2 to be number 1 😂
f22 starling is such a great plane... i would never regret buying that thing during my whole entire life. I use it sometimes too and it is so great plane... + it is based on the Me 163 Comet, which was aircraft during ww2 and one of my favorites too.
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10:09 "whoever designed the Vamos, uh... needs to be shot"
I'M DEAD
Wait, you designed it?
@@bandwagon240 nah, the firing squad just missed and hit me instead
I drive a Panthere and Growler rather often but never thought about how similarly that they handle, I just like how they both have a classic look to them.
Hardcore Vamos lover here and I’m not gonna disagree with anything you said. What you said was completely factual and no one could disagree.
Bro, the hippie voice defending the BF Surfer made me chuckle so hard
The invade and persuade is a blast against greifers/tryhards, once you get them off of their oppressors this will make their lives hell lol
That new electric track buggy thing handles great, by far the best feeling
Proper rant video. Thoroughly enjoyed it
I'm with you Harmnone. If people like the Starling .. good for them. It's a good dogfighter? Tight turns? Ok... It doesn't handle like a proper plane. You almost need the boost to stay airborne. Your right HN it's like a glider with a rocket boost. It's like... Someone took a Mk 1 Oppressor and instead of making a MK2 Hoverbike, they tried to make it into more of an aircraft. Notice it still has only 2 wheels one in front of the other... Like a motorcycle.... The Starling is basically a unspoken variant of the Oppressor.
Honestly I enjoy the handling of the MT, obviously not a fan of the engine resistance, but it's a fun challenge to drive.
The fun challenge thing also goes for the vamos
Driving the Vamos is like being in “snow mode” during the Christmas event. It’s just sad because it looks cool (especially with the skull livery), but is a literal death trap. I heard somewhere that it’s good for drag races because it has a good takeoff, but 50yrds later and the thing will start swerving without any input from your steering joystick/wheel.
I just get the impression that the dev(s) who designed it did this intentionally to make sure that even the most savvy driver in GTAO will look like a completely out of control newbie who just likes hitting lamp poles and having head on collisions with otherwise easily avoidable opposing traffic and stationary objects 😅
Now if you want a beast muscle car that is probably top 5 in handling… go grab a Vapid Blade 👍🏾
100% agree with the pfister comet s2. I've had one lying around for a while and decided to test it out yesterday and I was shocked. I never thought of the turbo s as a drift car but I guess rockstar has some ideas of their own. Absolutely 0 traction especially at high speed. I wish this thing handled like the Growler.
I don’t bother delivering excess weapons parts because of the dune loader
clicked on the video expecting the GODAWFUL Tezeract to get another thorough Harmnone rinsing like other similar videos and left mildly disappointed; I imagine if you do do a pt. 2 the Tezeract gets the roasting it thoroughly deserves
I spared the Tezeract today, I’ll get it next time
@@HarmNone spared for good reason, I understand
Random comment, but we must have had a similar childhood. The world at war soundtrack (not sure tho), Spider-Man 3 ps2 soundtrack, BTD 5 soundtrack. Wow
@harmnone fun fact but in case you didn’t know, the headlights of the growler are actually from the car that the panthere is based on in real life lol making what you said seem even more true
I kinda prefer the Panthera over the Pfister Growler when it comes to looks.
Also I must be in the rare minority who owns an Invade and Persuade tank but only uses it on NPC's when really bored.
This is literally the first time I've heard anyone talk about the menacer. I straight up forgot it existed
Harmnone can you make a video of top 10 cars that you like/love pls
Pretty spot on video man. Most the cars you mentioned you hate, ao do I, and for the same reasons too. However, I do love the S2, Vamos and X80 though. For their looks, not anything serious cause their performance SUCK. But they're awesome for just chill cruising in freeroam.
Aside from dogfighting, yep, you right again. The Starling is garbage. Its alright for dogfights, but its easily taken out by several other jets though; B11, Pyro, Nokata (forget spelling) and Rouge. And now the new Raiju. The Starling isn't fun to just fly though. Too touchy and not smmoth.
Surprised you didn't hit that dude on the bike! 4:03 😅🤣👌🏻 i absolutely love the comet S2! It performs ok, but mainly i love the look of it, man It looks so accurate to the real porsche! agree, the customization is nutz! I love a nice porsche! Some of my favorite looking cars! They're beautiful and so smooth and elegant looking! Good stuff, man! 👍🏻
yeah, i like the vw bus surfer thing, but they should have just made it be updated customization for the regular surfer and not a complete new vehicle.
This is why i love your content 😂❤️
Please make a part 2 as well 😂
The background music have no business being this hard, I wasn't ready for the Halo Reach theme 😂
i just opened the game for buying comet s2 but this video popped up in my phone and made me reconsider my options. thank you harmnone
I love driving the raiden its one of my favourite cars to master can drift and crash constantly
11:22 explains the Vamos's handling pretty well.
I can vouch that harmnone HATES the x80 he bullied me for having one
Heya there. The list is almost perfect but I should mention something. The cars that have severe understeer or oversteer are usually controllable by the driver easily in GTA.
For example I would disagree with your opinion about the Comet S2. Yes, it has severe oversteer, simply overturning your back every corner. But the thing is you have to adjust your driving style according to what you drive. For example if you drive the S2 you have to engage corners via a driving technique called 'slip angle'. This means counting on the understeer to finish the corner facing straight, sacrificing speed *in* the very corner but having extraordinary speed leaving the corner.
Polar opposite to this would be for example any 4WD car. Let's use my favourite, the Elegy Retro Custom. In this case you can use the throttle during a turn to decide your steering. (More throttle, more understeer) and either way, if you min-max the turn and precisely hold the throttle any time you need, it will make an incredible turn and a very fast corner entry and exit.
There is a lot to GTA driving and I think not even Rockstar realizes what masterpiece they did with the individual cars in the game.
Each holds different advantages and disadvantages but no car is ever downright bad, unless it is a meme vehicle like the Fagio or the BF Surfer Custom. Because every car's disadvantage can be turned into a severe advantage, again pointing to the S2.
Also, handbrake is severely underutilized. Be sure to train more using the handbrake in corners. It is a lifesaver.
My buddy loves his X80 Proto and swears by it, basically all my cars have just destroyed it in races
Was expecting the Surfer Custom to be a Benny's upgrade of the Surfer. Instead we got this.
before hsw cars, the vamos was my favourite car in the game. It was such a sleeper if you could wheelie properly and it kept up with just about anything in a drag race. Plus it’s just sexy
4:37 correction: Entity XXR came out with the Southern San Andreas Super Sport Series update from 2017.
Love this guy 😂Thank you, Harmnone, for a brutally honest review of these vehicles.
I love the Vamos for its looks but yeah it sucks to drive. Its for sure a garage queen. Good video bro
Your picks make me think the handling is completely different on pc vs console
Even though the surfer should be slow, it's not so slow that you have problems driving it. Depending on the version (1100-1500, different versions from 1950-1967) you have 85 to 110km/h top speed. That's somewhere between 52,8 and 68,4 in "We don't know how to make a useful system of units but act like we are better while we aren't" per hour.
Edit: Also, I feel like there is a vehicle missing that one might say left 2 marks on the GTA playerbase
Right? I thought for sure it would be on the list lol
I just feel, as an American who feels this as a memeful personal attack on my cheeseburger measurements, that I should point out that Great Britain made imperial measurements a thing in the first place, and like the rebellious teenager we are, we rolled with it when dad banned it from the household xD
You also shouldn't feel too safe, given the fact of that the British government has been considering reinstating imperial unit measurements in very recent times.
@@sylokthedefiled3047 Made in a time where there was no international standard. Meanwhile the US is the only one insisting to not use metric as the official measurement
@@sylokthedefiled3047The Brittish government isn't and never has seriously considered switching back to imperial. It was a random talking point from Borris Johnson that never was or could be taken seriously by the general public.
@@Hendricus56 Actually, we still use metric quite a bit. Especially in a military setting. You will almost never hear anyone give range callouts in yards/feet for a reason. Construction jobs also use metric most of the time.
I'm honestly still not certain why anyone has this fetish for hating on Imperial units in the first place. I mean, a measurement is literally one of the most petty things to get salty/intimidated by, especially when it doesnt pertain to anyone outside of the US in most cases xD
It's like arguing with someone over instant coffee vs coffee grounds from the same brand.
X80 Proto looks like the CO2 cars we used to build for tech class in highschool. It looks like someone took a Dremel to it and shaved off as much weight as possible within the assigned specs, and then it would disintegrate when the CO2 cartridge popped and half the car would make the finish line 😂.
Finally someone else who knows about the A110!! 😂😂
Such a cool car I wish we had them in Canada!
@@HarmNone bro same I wish they were in the states, would make one hell of a weekend car, like a modern MR2 or something
I love the Vamos but driving it is horrendous. It just looks and sounds cool. You explain it perfect. It’s floating
I respect what you said about the starling,but the Oppressor Mk2 should’ve won for most hated. Number 0 though,the king of hate,the Orbital Canon