NFL MVP odds, COY odds and more | Chris Simms Unbuttoned (FULL Ep. 626) & Bet the Edge | NFL on NBC

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  • @vincenttalley5938
    @vincenttalley5938 3 місяці тому +19

    13:20 - lol Chris really said if you don’t throw enough interceptions, you’re not trying to win the game. So let me get this straight:
    - When Brock threw in Green Bay game, Simms ripped him for the 4 bad throws (which Simms also later increased to 7 bad throws).
    - But when Josh Allen throws interceptions, they're okay bc he's trying to help his team win ... ?
    Riiight.

    • @adamsgaming6265
      @adamsgaming6265 3 місяці тому +6

      Well what he means is the old days of Drew brees throwing for 75 completion percentage and throwing single digit interceptions are over. Teams and defenses are to good now, if you’re being conservative or not taking any chances and not trying to win the game then your ass will be in the bench. All the good quarterbacks in football right now are aggressive and take chances. Patrick mahomes threw 14 interceptions this year the chiefs won the Super Bowl, Matthew Stafford led the league with 18 interceptions in 2021 and the rams won the Super Bowl.

    • @JohnAC4
      @JohnAC4 3 місяці тому +2

      @@adamsgaming6265^

    • @jackhoeh7941
      @jackhoeh7941 3 місяці тому +1

      I love Brock but I understand the narrative. He isn’t just knocked for having a consistently top 3 roster, he also benefits from a top 3 offensive mind of the last decade (at the least). Compare that to Josh Allen and his roster/coaching. This is part of Simms criteria.
      Having said this, Brock is the man and is a damn winner. He just needs to continue this play to get the recognition when considering all factors to most people.

    • @joshuabarnhart8225
      @joshuabarnhart8225 3 місяці тому

      Not all interceptions are created equal. When you have to take risks for your team to win in general vs needing to not take unnecessary risks because your team is good enough to win without them, it would stand to reason that your interceptions would be more acceptable/understandable.

    • @jonathanwhelan4573
      @jonathanwhelan4573 2 місяці тому

      Simms is alluding to Allen has to take chances and help his team make aggressive plays to have a chance to win. Purdy has a much better roster, explosive players, great coach so he can be more conservative as a QB and his team still win.

  • @justthetruth411
    @justthetruth411 3 місяці тому +9

    Wait, interceptions don't count , but you put down Purdy for almost interceptions.

  • @raniasaad8772
    @raniasaad8772 3 місяці тому

    Funny how the interception thing was a big deal when dak led in it, and now it isn’t

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 Місяць тому +1

    Yet another reason why Simms is better in every way than Ahmed. We know that Simms is a Giants fan. We know that Ahmed is a Lions fan. But Simms doesn’t turn every conversation into his own wishes for the Giants. Ahmed makes every topic somehow about him and his Lions. And it’s not funny. Yet another example of Ahmed trying to be funny and being so far off it makes you wonder where he ever got the idea that he could tell a joke or do a bit. He’s terrible.

  • @TrillCannon
    @TrillCannon 3 місяці тому +6

    So many damn excuses for Josh Allen

  • @williamthompson4842
    @williamthompson4842 3 місяці тому +4

    Clearly many upset first time listeners coming from First Things First… please leave your spam out of the comments - we like real analysis here

    • @joshuabarnhart8225
      @joshuabarnhart8225 3 місяці тому

      It's hilarious how much of the same comments are being made, I was wondering where all the new listeners came from. Mad because Chris said stuff he's been saying for years lmao. People really do just ride with whatever QB is on their team based on nothing else

  • @EqualNo14
    @EqualNo14 3 місяці тому +3

    you people and your nonsense Burrow love is always so amusing. The guy has never had mvp numbers and is entering the season coming off of rehabbing another injury. But he's going to win MVP right? hilarious. He won't even be top 3.

  • @BrockandRoll6969
    @BrockandRoll6969 3 місяці тому +7

    Uh oh a guest gives Brock purdy praise, hope Chris simms was okay after this.

    • @GKA11111
      @GKA11111 3 місяці тому +3

      Wow more crying. Get a grip dude.

    • @BrockandRoll6969
      @BrockandRoll6969 3 місяці тому

      @@GKA11111 😂

    • @dkenned4
      @dkenned4 3 місяці тому +1

      Simms gives him plenty of praise.

    • @citizenx8710
      @citizenx8710 3 місяці тому

      ​@@dkenned4 Praise followed up with constant criticism is not really praise.

  • @connieq2811
    @connieq2811 3 місяці тому +3

    Imagine getting criticized for throwing 48-4 on the season!! Scared to throw the ball. Facts are facts

  • @crustybs46
    @crustybs46 3 місяці тому +2

    The mvp race being decided by the qb who gets the one seed is so fucking unbelievably stupid. Its most valuable player not most valuable team. Voting needs and overhaul

  • @jeremiahw1369
    @jeremiahw1369 3 місяці тому +1

    I disagree about the interception narrative. Strongly. Qb fumbles are usually the faulty protection of someone else. Interceptions can only happen if the qb throws it when and where they did regardless of the other factors.
    I am also surprised no one likes Lamar to repeat as mvp. He did get 49 of the 50 votes without good statistics. If the Ravens run away with the 1 seed again while Lamar has good numbers because all of a sudden he has a Centaur to hand the ball to instead of a 2nd or 3rd string rb like usual. The Ravens have 2 elite te targets to compliment and score tds off what should be an overwhelming running game that forces them into predictable single coverage.

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 Місяць тому +1

    welp I think enough time has gone by and the proof is in the pudding: the views on this episode do not dictate another episode like this. We just wanna hear Simms talk. Not anyone else. And especially not Ahmed. ANYONE BUT AHMED

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 Місяць тому +1

    God Ahmed just always has to finish each segment with a little snide remark that takes a shot at either Simms or the other guest. “We named every QB so do with that what you will” blah blah he is such a Debbie downer buzzkill. But also he’s lowkey a hater. That’s the kind of guy he is. He always criticizes and tries to knock others down a peg. Always. Simms is so good to him all the time and yet Ahmed always, consistently, tries to find ways to dig at Simms or insult him or blame him for something or try and make him look bad. I just do not understand this man. He’s just the worst in every categorical way

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 Місяць тому +1

    Just for the record, at a minute into this show Simms says that Ahmed is a pro host, (he had nothing else to say about Ahmed clearly). But cmon Ahmed is the worst host ever imaginable. The opposite of fun. If we left everything up to Ahmed, fun would go extinct within a week literally

  • @richresroc
    @richresroc 3 місяці тому +2

    Interesting how they all think the vikings have a shot at a wild card because of the coaching yet no one picked KOC for coach of the year.
    If he gets 10 wins and makes the play offs in that division with either Darnold or Mccarthy at QB I don't know how he's not at least in the conversation.
    Oh and their strength of schedule is far harder than the Bengals and the Bears

    • @paulmayer8654
      @paulmayer8654 3 місяці тому

      Because they won 13 games 2 years ago and 7 games last year without a starting QB for half of a season. Winning 10 games would be a good season, but it wouldn’t be spectacular by any means. CoY goes to a coach of a team that far surpasses preseason expectations, or overcomes extreme adversity.

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 3 місяці тому +1

    Belicheck had to go 16-0 to finally win coach of the year. Just one example showing why this award, and all of the awards, are bullshit and deserve none of our attention or care

  • @carrcovers3775
    @carrcovers3775 3 місяці тому +1

    Take jordan love over passing yards… bettting my car on this shit

  • @nicholaswarman1597
    @nicholaswarman1597 3 місяці тому +1

    Favoring the Bengals to win the North handedly is a joke.

  • @NeonKC
    @NeonKC 3 місяці тому +3

    This guy is a genius ur telling me if I bet on an nfl future im gonna have to wait awhile? Wow

  • @alexvankeulen7171
    @alexvankeulen7171 3 місяці тому +2

    I thought I understood sports betting until I watched this episode

  • @patrickmiller6236
    @patrickmiller6236 3 місяці тому +1

    I know it’s wrong but I can’t do the accent 😂

  • @beachpal
    @beachpal 2 місяці тому

    Chris, how about giving us your analysis of each NFL teams about their coaching and players changes for the upcoming season?
    I play FF but don't really have time to keep track. It'd be great if you could start with last year final positions from best to worst and tell us what changed this off season and what it means for the team. Like will there be more offense? More defense? Which players will be featured because of their big contracts etc etc. One team, one episode. Thanks.

  • @Tegrityfarms58
    @Tegrityfarms58 3 місяці тому +12

    No one else in football gets slighted for having a good team it’s ridiculous that we are still using that as an argument for Brock

    • @HansHinnershitz
      @HansHinnershitz 3 місяці тому

      The 49'ers have the best roster in the NFL and it isn't particularly close. That's why.

  • @NathanDean79
    @NathanDean79 3 місяці тому

    Man Vegas can’t get enough of Josh Allen can they. No fucking way CJ Stroud should have better odds than Burrow. Burrow should be right after Mahomes. I’m betting Burrow wins it this year. And yes the Bengals will have the 1 seed.

  • @JohnStockton7459
    @JohnStockton7459 3 місяці тому +4

    Matt Eberflus couldnt find a way to win with fields, that guy should never be coach of the year over lafleur. Just cause they tanked and got 2 top 10 picks does not mean the coach should be awarded for inheriting better players. Lafleur took nobodies and made them good, quit the disrespect

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 3 місяці тому +2

    WHAT?! In regards to the head coach of the year award: “there’s an element of overachieving and surprise with this award.” Uhh an element?? It’s like the whole criteria. It’s never the actual best coaches in the league that win it. It’s the team that outdid their expectations. Belicheck should’ve won Coach of the Year every year but he won it like once if I remember correctly. It’s a stupid bogus award. Just like the rest of them

  • @roningaijin7701
    @roningaijin7701 3 місяці тому +1

    Fumbles lost more than just fumbles. That's key to distinguish.

    • @paulmayer8654
      @paulmayer8654 3 місяці тому

      Anytime you see fumbles stat without the “lost” distinction, it refers to fumbles lost.

  • @Colt-bd2mv
    @Colt-bd2mv 3 місяці тому +1

    When are we getting the Big Phil episode?

  • @christopherbooker796
    @christopherbooker796 3 місяці тому +1

    This dude “if”’s a lot

    • @HeliosWrath
      @HeliosWrath 3 місяці тому

      That's what betting is.

  • @CommonNotCommon24-7
    @CommonNotCommon24-7 3 місяці тому +23

    They making all those excuses for everybody not named Brock Purdy smh

    • @billjohnson1111
      @billjohnson1111 3 місяці тому +6

      This fool said Kellen Mond would be the next Dak…

    • @CommonNotCommon24-7
      @CommonNotCommon24-7 3 місяці тому +2

      @@billjohnson1111 💀💀💀💀💀💀😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣

    • @Richard-gw2lr
      @Richard-gw2lr 3 місяці тому +3

      I've been studying the stats from last year. He'll, go back to the first start of Brock Purdys. He is literally the best QB in the league statistics wise. He is the best under pressure. He is the best deep ball thrower. He doesn't dink and dunk. He is most accurate under pressure. He had one of the worst offensive lines during pass plays in the league. Dude broke a ton of records in college and then the NFL. Best QBR and did it with more games in a season. First full off season. His last one he was still recovering from a massive surgery to his throwing arm. Brock is the best QB in the NFL.

    • @Richard-gw2lr
      @Richard-gw2lr 3 місяці тому +2

      Oh. Also simms calling himself a QB expert is a joke. He was trash. He can't evaluate talent. He is consistently wrong with m9st of his QB takes. He got to play QB because of his father. He was trash.

    • @crustybs46
      @crustybs46 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@Richard-gw2lr I hate to tell you this my guy, but most people are wrong about most qbs being good. It's why there are 5 first round qbs selected every year and almost non of then end up being awesome.

  • @HeliosWrath
    @HeliosWrath 3 місяці тому

    Burrow hasn't beaten Mahomes in multiple seasons and the last time he did was because the Bengals defense carried.

  • @winebuyah
    @winebuyah 3 місяці тому +1

    all y'all Brock Purdy fanboys need to getta outta yer feelings & get into being not so delusional...

    • @citizenx8710
      @citizenx8710 3 місяці тому

      The only delusional people are these so called analysts downplaying the QB who finished top 3 in nearly every QB stat while having the 23rd best offensive line. Purdy lead the NFL in passer rating and QBR and set an NFL record with throwing over 50% completion rate of passes over 25 yards.

    • @kevenadrien
      @kevenadrien 3 місяці тому +1

      @@citizenx8710and none of that mattered in the Super Bowl did it? 😂😂😂😂😂
      Stop coping. He’s a good game manager, system QB. It takes a superstar at the position to win the Super Bowl, Purdy isn’t that and THAT is why the 49ers didn’t win.

    • @citizenx8710
      @citizenx8710 3 місяці тому

      @@kevenadrien They didn't win because of a muffed punt, CMC fumbled, they didn't defer in OT, Shanahan went 9 plays in the 3rd quarter and only ran one time in those 9 plays. The defense also shit the bed in the last two KC possessions and Burford didn't block Chris Jones on the last offensive play in OT causing a broken play despite Aiyuk and Jennings being wide open. They did not lose due to Purdy.
      Also my niece is 8 and uses emojis too.

    • @kevenadrien
      @kevenadrien 3 місяці тому +1

      @@citizenx8710 cool story bro. The Chiefs didn’t play a perfect game either, but Patrick Mahomes made it happen because he’s a superstar. Purdy isn’t that guy. Maybe this season he makes the jump.

    • @citizenx8710
      @citizenx8710 3 місяці тому

      @@kevenadrien I am recalling the events of the game that cost SF the Superbowl. Those events were more significant in costing 49ers the Superbowl than anything Purdy didn't do. Fact is they were in the lead twice at the end of the game until SF defense gave up two scores to KC. Purdy didn't play bad and outplayed every other QB in the playoffs against the top defense of this year's postseason. KC rode their stellar defensive play to a championship and Mahommes came through at the end.
      But continue denying the reality that Purdy is the guy for SF which was blatantly evident last season.

  • @FatherJoJo
    @FatherJoJo Місяць тому

    Clapped it up at the end with you man, glad to have you back!

  • @jerrygm5326
    @jerrygm5326 3 місяці тому +8

    PURDY DONE MORE IN 2 YEARS THEN CHRIS SIMMS DID ALL HIS CARRER LOL

    • @ALWAYSTHINK4YOURSELF
      @ALWAYSTHINK4YOURSELF 3 місяці тому +2

      So what? lol

    • @JohnAC4
      @JohnAC4 3 місяці тому +2

      What does that have to do with anything. Playing and analyzing are two different things

    • @iconicon5642
      @iconicon5642 3 місяці тому +1

      What has got to do with anything.

    • @nicholaswarman1597
      @nicholaswarman1597 3 місяці тому +2

      Simms didn't play for Shanahan, in this era, with the 49ers' roster, and had a totally different injury history than Purdy. Go sit down and let the adults talk.

    • @bonym371
      @bonym371 3 місяці тому +2

      Mahomes did more in half a season than Purdy’s ever done!

  • @GKA11111
    @GKA11111 3 місяці тому +1

    EARLY UPLOAD???? YES YES YES

  • @henrys3623
    @henrys3623 3 місяці тому

    Why is Breece Hall expected to pop off out of nowhere?

    • @ian1753
      @ian1753 3 місяці тому

      Because if Rodgers stays healthy they can't stack the box for the 1st time in Halls career. Not to mention he is now fully healthy from the torn ACL.

  • @jerrygm5326
    @jerrygm5326 3 місяці тому +2

    What is Chris simms known for ? O yes his dad😂

    • @kevenadrien
      @kevenadrien 3 місяці тому +1

      He’s a great football analyst. Idk what kind of weird hatred you have towards him. What are you known for Jerry?? Being a potato GM on your couch? Touch grass, geezer.

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 3 місяці тому +3

    I swear Ahmed is the most annoying kind of fan. Everything is about him when it comes to the Lions, MVP talk and what does Ahmed contribute? “Why wasn’t Goff mentioned once?” Wow really great contribution I’m so glad he’s on this show sharing his deep complex football knowledge. NOT

    • @kevenadrien
      @kevenadrien 3 місяці тому

      A deep complex football analyst isn’t his role though lmfao. He’s a mediator, and he’s great at that. Idk what you’re whining about.

  • @warpeace8891
    @warpeace8891 3 місяці тому +2

    Shanahan made a bunch of blunders in the Superbowl which is the biggest reason they lost. "Best in the league"... are we watching the same sport? The obvious standout best coach in the league is Andy Reid. He rarely makes mistakes and is the difference in the biggest moments with creativity unmatched. He is the best game manager from start to finish game after game, year after year.
    I like Purdy but he is not in the top five on his team. Purdy and Allen are almost opposites of each other. Purdy = low risk with A grade help everywhere. Allen does more for his team than any qb I have ever seen.

    • @kevenadrien
      @kevenadrien 3 місяці тому +1

      It helps a lot when you have Mahomes who is 10000x the QB Purdy will EVER be lol. You’re talking about a coach who has arguably the best QB of all time, versus a dude who’s an average game manager lmfao.

    • @warpeace8891
      @warpeace8891 3 місяці тому

      @@kevenadrien - Clearly you can't tell the difference between a coach and a player. Mahomes does not decide who plays. Mahomes does not call plays. Mahomes does not do ANY of the things that the coach does. I won't argue about Mahomes being great but that is not what we are talking about. If you watch the game you will only see the players play but if you understand the game you should understand that the coach has the biggest impact on results because they do far more than any one player can do. Mahomes has never played defense but Andy Reid is still the boss making decisions and winning games when Mahomes is on the sidelines.

    • @kevenadrien
      @kevenadrien 3 місяці тому

      @@warpeace8891 and you need to know there’s miles and miles and miles of a talent gap between Purdy and Mahomes. If Shanahan had Mahomes, he wins just as many Super Bowls as Reid.

    • @warpeace8891
      @warpeace8891 3 місяці тому

      @@kevenadrien - You have a real comprehension problem don't you. THIS IS NOT ABOUT QUARTERBACKS.

    • @kevenadrien
      @kevenadrien 3 місяці тому

      @@warpeace8891 this is definitely about QBs…

  • @mikeromano8140
    @mikeromano8140 3 місяці тому

    The takes on interceptions are insane.

  • @NathanRhwmf
    @NathanRhwmf 3 місяці тому

    new music in the outro

  • @micahkiyimba8641
    @micahkiyimba8641 3 місяці тому +1

    This show needs to stop talking about Brock Purdy.
    If you don't have any facts to say and just assumptions....leave the dude alone.
    He was robbed of MVP last year and proved who he is the playoffs.
    Say he says for a choker called Kyle Shanahan who cost him a SuperBowl

  • @Kenny49ERS
    @Kenny49ERS 3 місяці тому +1

    Omg sooooo boring

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 3 місяці тому +3

    Ahmed is a grown ass man and you can tell that he is ALWAYS scared of getting in trouble with daddy boss. He won’t even cuss. And the way he tries to control Simms (and makes this show so much worse as a result) you can just tell that he’s a pansy killjoy. I really haven’t seen in anyone in my whole life that is such a pathetic waste of space

  • @Giovannisss
    @Giovannisss 3 місяці тому +2

    A whole video about betting? 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

    • @GKA11111
      @GKA11111 3 місяці тому +1

      Lol really? Are you 12?

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 3 місяці тому +2

    Ahmed is such a lame square buzzkill. But the worst part is that he never stops trying to make jokes and be funny. Which makes no sense. He should know that a lame square buzzkill cannot possibly be funny

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 3 місяці тому +2

    Ahmed is just the worst. You could have anyone, and I literally mean anyone, in his place and this podcast would be better

  • @blakeharris58
    @blakeharris58 3 місяці тому +1

    An award based on stats and votes (opinions), but there are pre-season odds. Does nobody else see the problem with that?

    • @warpeace8891
      @warpeace8891 3 місяці тому

      NFL are barely even hiding their conflicts of interest any more. Team owners also owning sportsbooks is just a fck you to sport fans. Keep watching and we will see all sorts of cheating and controversy increase in future years because of gambling.

    • @AddMiller221
      @AddMiller221 3 місяці тому +1

      That's why it's called gambling. If you wait for all the stats and opinions, you don't get same odds.

  • @JJVJ11
    @JJVJ11 3 місяці тому +1

    They know putting Brock on the cover will get views but they end up undervaluing him. Kinda weird

    • @kevenadrien
      @kevenadrien 3 місяці тому +1

      It’s called “clickbait” and it’s been a UA-cam phenomenon for over a decade. Tada!

  • @buddysteele7624
    @buddysteele7624 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s just crazy how uncool Ahmed is. He just sticks out like a sore thumb as a total bore and a buzzkill. How could anyone ever accomplish being more lame and more of a bummer than Ahmed?? It’s just not possible

    • @marcelmartins5938
      @marcelmartins5938 3 місяці тому

      dude, what's wrong with you. Multiple comments on Ahmed, why you're hating so much. The dude is a fine guy and a good host. Focus your attention and energy on your life and things you can control instead

    • @buddysteele7624
      @buddysteele7624 3 місяці тому

      @@marcelmartins5938 no Ahmed shouldn’t be the cohost on here he’s not qualified he doesn’t add anything to the show. He only saps goodness from it

  • @Nicho_Ldn
    @Nicho_Ldn 3 місяці тому +2

    If Simms wants to talk about drugs so much on the show, do you think he could try to do so without being scientifically and medically illiterate? Or promoting potentially harmful ideas such as increased THC potency equating to good?

    • @NeonKC
      @NeonKC 3 місяці тому +8

      He’s talking about weed don’t say drugs

    • @twone9930
      @twone9930 3 місяці тому +5

      Calling marijuana drugs 😂😂😂…It’s 2024 not 1964 😒

    • @GKA11111
      @GKA11111 3 місяці тому +5

      This won’t age well. Complaining about weed in 2024 it’s pointless. People are super defensive about anything that makes their lives easier. Weed is an escape. People are going to destroy you for not loving it. Tons of people would rather get high on weed than deal with life or be sober. They defend weed more passionately than the defend their families. I love Simms but he’s on the weed train and nothing will pull him off

    • @JC-hq7iu
      @JC-hq7iu 3 місяці тому +1

      @@GKA11111gay

    • @GKA11111
      @GKA11111 3 місяці тому +1

      @@JC-hq7iu weed does make you gay. Thanks for adding that