Is Western Christianity really Orthodox?
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Can we really call early Christianity in Britain 'Orthodox'?
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Part 8 of the 'Ancient Faith of Britain: Orthodoxy in the Isles' series
In this episode, I am sorry, but I remain seated at my desk! But don't worry. I take the opportunity to tell you why Western Orthodox Christians can confidently look at the history of Christianity in Britain, and see the roots of their own Faith today.
Join me, Fr Jacob Siemens, Orthodox priest serving the Parish of St Theodore and St Teilo in Cardiff, Wales, as I take you on a journey across Britain - and Wales in particular - to learn more about how the Orthodox Christian Faith arrived here, about how it spread, and about some of its wonderful and inspiring saints.
Previous episodes can be found here:
Introduction to the Series:
• The Ancient Faith of B...
The Holy Grail, Glastonbury, and other Foundation Stories
• The Meaning of the Gra...
The Patron Saint of Cardiff
• The Patron Saint of Ca...
Roman Britain: Christianity in Caerleon
• Roman Britain: Christi...
Real Celtic Christianity: Early Orthodoxy in Wales
• Wales, Brittany, and D...
Wales, Brittany, and Dragons
• Wales, Brittany, and D...
How the Welsh Saved Civilisation
• How the Welsh Saved Ci...
Legendary Wales
• Legendary Wales
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Thanks for this video, Father.
Like you, my heritage is all Western. I have no known links at all to the east. Since I became Orthodox, I have loved learning about saints from places like Greece and Russia and while I have grown very fond of them, I'm not Greek or Russian and never will be. All of my ancestry that I know of is Scottish and Irish so learning about the Church from the 1st millennium and about saints who lived and walked in places I know well has been a great blessing.
Great episode, long time waited for this particular story to be analysed
Facinating, very much appreciate the work you are doing. Before finding this chanel I have been researching what was the early expression of Christianity in Wales, and what you are saying here to confirms the findings. I so wish we had more Orthadox Churches here especially in West Wales, 🙏
Thank you for this comment. Are you aware of Fr Timothy, who is based in Lampeter? I believe he also runs a couple of missions in other villages in West Wales.
@@herrvonsiemens I will look him up thankyou. 🕊
Thank you for this presentation. The Celtic church was characterised by holy leaders who, like the Desert Fathers of Egypt, would locate in isolated places for prayer and then travel to settlements to preach. Centres of mission, such as Iona of Columba were already established before Pope Gregory approved Augustine's mission to the 'Angles'. Bede was far more favourable of the Irish tradition than that of the Britons, as the gaels reached out to convert the pagan Angles & Saxons whilst the British church appeared not to (though to be fair, the Anglo-Saxons had been taking British land and were advancing westward).
I have so much enjoyed the series and look forward to it going further. As an early medieval historian, I sort of knew this intellectually but you have put it in a broader context - particularly spiritual and what it meant for people at the time. I would ask something though, Father. What is your objective here? Is it purely historical; to root what Orthodoxy is practised in the UK in a more British historical context; to proselytise for Orthodoxy or to argue that Christianity as a whole in this country - particularly Anglicanism - should draw back to its Orthodox routes? It would be fascinating to know.
Thank you.
Fr please join us on our pilgramge to Holywell next month on the 5th.
We will be walking from St barbaras church in chester to holywell for a service and a blessing of the water.
Or you can just go straight to holywell for the service.
I love the message of this video, Father, and I unite myself entirely to its sentiment.
However, I would go further and say that it benefits us little to claim these saints of the west as our own when we declare their path of salvation to be unworthy of merit. The liturgies by which they worshipped God; the prayers they composed, the hymns they sang, the chants by which they chanted the psalms and entered into communion with the Divine; the rites by which they encountered God in the Holy Mysteries - these are the means whereby they worked out their salvation, shed their tears of repentance, stained the soil of these islands by their blood of martyrdom.
Until the majority of hierarchs of the Orthodox Church in these islands stop denigrating the ancient Orthodoxy of the West, there is little point putting a few western saints' icons in the windowsills of a building that will host a Turkish liturgy (if you'll forgive the anachronism employed for effect).
For the sake of mission, for the sake of our salvation and that of those exploring faith, let us say to the peoples of the West: "This your heritage, your history, and your culture is worthy of salvation, has been hallowed by the saints before us, and is redeemed, and celebrated today as a means whereby you too can find a home in the Church of Jesus Christ."
Until we can do this, without hesitation or embarrassment, our efforts will be hindered by our own short-sightedness. May God have mercy.
THANK YOU!!! Finally an Orthodox that gets it.
I love this area of learning. However i do feel you might expand, at some point- on the difference between the more catholic interpretation of christianity and that of the shared similarities between celtic/ethiopian and syrian orthodoxy in theological / belief or practise terms. What do we know of the difference? Can this be compared and contrasted? Why is better suited to a wind-swept isle than the roman version? I look forward to more in this area. Fascinating stuff- thanks
Excellent idea. I will do this. Thank you!
Tau cross on Tory island.
Dysert placename in Ireland.
The Martyrology of Tallaght mentions seven Coptic monks buried in Diseart Ulidh.
I have been greatly enjoying your videos, Father. It seems, though, that early British Christianity likely was introduced to Britain by Christians in the roman Legions during their time there as well as by Eastern traders. I hate to see Rome being viewed as less Orthodox than the East since in the First Millennium it was the Church of St. Gregory and St. Leo, to name a few, and it upheld Orthodoxy at times when the Eastern Church was rocked by Monophysitism or Iconoclasm or such.
My patron saint is st Bede but I do what your saying all the time he's orthodox
Sadly the UK is a land of closed churches. To think the Friends of Friendless Churches has responsibilty to maintain a crazy number of churches is beyond sad.
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Heddwch / Peace brother. You talk more sensibly about the old truth than a thousand historians could ever desyypher. Respect. If Bede has a weakness, it's because he never left his village and wrote about things that he learned second hand milenea after they happened . He laid the foundations for the distrust and subjugation of the native Briton's that survives to this day. The native Briton's would not bend the knee to Augustas. So he told the Saxon Angle Jute Flemish and countless mercenary hordes to kill as many indigenous holy mem ss they could. the old religion ead not based on power wealth and social control.. Love Pease and Civilization. Your endeavours are much appreciated.😊
0:38 anyone know where is this place in this image and what it is called ? appreciated
St Winefride’s Well, Holywell, Wales (well crypt contains star-shaped basin).
@@shaunmulligan8717 thank you < 3