I have to vehemently disagree, only in that corrections NEVER reach the same audience as the initial information. At least, never in any kind of timely manner. Curious Droid deserves the benefit of the doubt, but many, _many_ others do not whatsoever.
@@ashkebora7262 well he also wasn't trying to persuade anyone one way or another and the info right, wrong, or incomplete (they have it but they don't show it anymore is essentially the same thing) I don't think it was very impactful since it was a vehicle for information about something else. You'd only need to give him the benefit of the doubt if there was any doubt. That being said i know what you mean and news outlets have been using that trick forever. Make a bombastic incorrect statement, then correct it on the back page in small print a month later.
@@bac1308 Yeah, CD's mistake is an _honest_ mistake, not a sign of lack of effort or blatant manipulation. Though I always have to push back on idioms and other expressions that horrible people use as cover. While there is wisdom in basically all of them, there are still varying amounts of idiocy in them, too. Not the least of which are the myriad expressions around "honest mistakes". Even if the mistake is honest, correcting it is _never_ as simple as fessing up to the mistake.
Hey, if you hadn't have been wrong then I never would have seen this amazing footage! Thank you so much for your diligence! I hope you and your family are well going into this summer, and I think I can speak for everyone here when I say that we appreciate so much the effort that you put into the content that you give to us, for free!
Now compare that to the space x crap show of malfunctioning engines flaming out, utterly destroying the pad and then blowing up. Professionals vs amateurs.
A bit of a correction. Go4Gordon only got a single part of the footage released, the LOX TSMU Camera. There was a Public Affairs Officer working on clearing all of the film+MARS Tracking footage in the time since launch. Gordon definitely helped out with some of the process, as getting a clear shot of an umbilical plate cleared through FOIA helped clear some other shots that had stuck, but the PAOs for the Artemis program absolutely deserve a shoutout for their hard work! (Quick note, not trying to discredit Gordon here as they are an outstanding member of the Spaceflight community, just wanting to share that there are others who are helping get this footage to the public!)
Due to a misconfiguration in the computer controlled auto-exposure system, most of the pad cameras were underexposed on this launch. All camera exposures are centrally controlled by this system now as opposed to Shuttle where they were controlled by each individual camera's AE unit.
Thank you for making the correction. I was fortunate enough to support Artemis I and got to know the teams that are responsible for capturing and doing analysis on the film. I ended up being the 12th person (give or take) to view the high speed film post-launch! A couple of facts: most of the film is ASA/ISO 400, post-launch it's sent to a well known film manufacturer for processing and some scanning, it's again processed by engineering teams at KSC and MSFC before being shared with NASA internally. Honestly a massive effort went into getting these released to the public, absolutely incredible images were captured. Hats off to those who made it happen!
I got chills watching that film footage. It had such a "vintage" feel to it. It's hard to describe exactly what I mean. Something about the combination of image detail, contrast, and the inherent mild HDR effect that chemical film has.
It almost seems like something you've expected to see in a cold war film reel if not for all the modern technology on display. Seeing the cool blue of the LED pad spot lights rendered on film grain is a very interesting vibe.
Yeah that was amazing. It was such a mindfuck having wondered the same as the previous video about the lack of good footage and associating the Apollo era with a certain "look." Then to find out mere seconds after finishing the previous video that this one existed (after noticing a comment about footage being made public), just wow. So cool, so surreal, so confusing, so amazing. Also the way he even put in that extra effort to not only give us some great shots and good music but to actually time them beautifully was just above and beyond and really added to the experience (though it got a bit loud at times).
You've done a sublime job of selecting, editing, arranging, and setting to music this mind-blowing, gorgeous footage. The footage of the exhaust plumes is my favourite, hands down, followed by the "ballet" of everything disconnecting and retracting and swinging away, and the stage separation. As amazing as the separation is to watch, I'm fascinated with the choreography of all the things that have to move!
It was beautiful. I'm blown away by the few seconds around ignition when things get sucked back up, then blasted, and the way you see everything start to shake from the power of giant goddamn rockets blasting heat and power and shockwaves right into the ground while everything holds together in spite of its might.
Seriously. Show off the cool stuff we're indirectly paying you to do. And they probably SHOULD be "marketing" their swagger so that we know about it and feel like its worth keeping in the budget.
@@BTW... Not true. NASA is not immune from having their budgets cut or their programs cancelled. Remember how constellation turned out? Even the Webb telescope was on the ropes at one point. They are essentially marketing to congress, and indirectly to us the taxpayers.
I've lived 30 miles down the road from the Cape for over 20 years. I've seen shuttles, delta, delta heavy atlas, falcon 9 weekly, BFR all from my front lawn. Artemis launch was not only the most amazing launch I've ever seen but one of the most amazing sights I've ever seen in my life.
I have lived in/on the Space coast (Brevard County) since 1998. I too have seen Many Many launches day/night and the Artemis Launch was.... in MY opinion not comparable to any Shuttle Launch I have ever seen. Just MY opinion.
@@jonathandavisofkorn6919 I've only ever seen one night launch of the Shuttle, and it was absolutely spectacular! I think it was STS-67 Endeavour. (6 daytime launches) Hope to make it over the pond to see Artemis one day, to compare! 🙂
Obviously, a thank you to the folks for gaining and advising the video access is deserved. That said, you did an OUTSTANDING job of assembling and editing this video. A superb job! Kudos, as always
I do want to say that you weren’t fully wrong. The digital cameras mounted currently couldn’t produce the same image quality as the old film cameras from Apollo and the Shuttle. You were right about that. And the reason why this footage exists is because they used those old film cameras again. Pretty neat to see them use film! I love film photography so this is a neat fact to hear
I think a lot of the shuttle film that we see wasn’t released for general public viewing until after the program was over. Glad to hear that we are getting to see this now! Good work!
That shot aiming down from the top of the tower as it comes up is just so epic. Thanks for bringing this to my attention as it was brought to yours. Fantastic! So very awe inspiring.
It's amazing to see Artemis 1 in this level of quality. It also really sells how _fast_ the SLS gets off the ground. Other comparable rockets seem to almost lumber into the air, even the more powerful Superheavy looked quite sluggish on launch, but Artemis 1 went up amazingly quickly. Hoping for a daylight launch soonish, so we can see it in even better detail.
Someone needs to put up a thrust/weight comparison of Saturn V vs SLS. ...I mean I could do it myself, but I'm giving the chance for someone more interested and less lazy get the kudos
@@gtaxmods Ya, super heavy was down 3 engines and starship had no cargo. Where r the comparable spacex videos. But don’t worry we got raptor 3 video but no explanation of why 3 raptors have twice not shown up for their job. It has been repeatedly stated how super reliable the raptors r¿¡?!
@@1_2_die2 I wish I could see Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer in full resolution, he has shot and edited the movie in 70/15. That is 70mm but sideways, taking 3 frames compared to classic 70mm. But almost no IMAX theatre can play it.
It's incredible how much effort it takes to more or less push a thing away from another thing, and it's absolutely awe inspiring to see it in such clarity.
We got two amazing videos out of this. I got to learn about the old engineering footage, modern streaming footage, and now, modern engineering footage. And boy is it a thing of beauty 😍
This is fantastic! I watched your previous video about the high quality film captures of the past and was a bit sad about the lack of amazing footage nowadays... well the sadness only lasted a day and a half! 😛 Thanks for this amazingly quick update, love your choice of music and the pacing.
That shot at 5:37 showing the shockwaves pushing and pulling the exhaust cloud in and out was particularly interesting. Fantastic compilation, thank you for sharing and big props to the guy who went through the FOIA to get this released to the public.
Even the best can make a mistake. I consider your channel the best on YT Paul no matter what genre. Your narration is always clear and concise excellent factual data quality film clips. Loved the music for this excellent choice. A+
A mistake is when someone accidentally and unintentionally does something incorrect when they actually know the proper procedure / have the correct information. This is entirely different from having new information come to light , which is the situation here.
ultra MEGA SUPER THANKS for bringing this to my attention! INSANE SUPER ULTRA THANKS to the entire community and Gordon to have the presence of mind for the FOIA requests to release this priceless footage! WHAT INSANE POWER! And thanks to this channel for the fantastic editing of the footage!!
Wonderful. I am so glad that NASA has maintained that form of data collection. If it had been a daylight launch it would have been even greater. Thank you for bringing this footage to public view whoever you are "Freedom of Information" person. Inspiring!
We are just so accustomed to SpaceX launches using live digital action cams that doesn't look that good that we could forget how good Artemis launch looks like ! Thanks for sharing this footage
Probably because there is so much going on internally and it would take a huge effort to publish everything not to mention the cost of data storage on a public network.
I was in film school about 13 years ago and we got a presentation from a Kodak representative about their film stocks. He told me that NASA was their largest customer for 16mm film. I was already wondering if it changed so recently. I'm happy they didn't. This footage is awesome.
@ 7:15 just WOW! That big KICK of the shock wave and that thing utterly takes off like a home run swing to a baseball! Simply stunning knowing how massive this rocket is. What a shot!
Yes, I saw that but in a later shot you can see that its off to one side and not as close as it appears, otherwsie judging by the size of it compared to the rocket, it would have to be huge.
PS: You can really tell how Holst's _The Planets_ influenced/inspired future sci-fi soundtrack composers. When listening to _Mars_ you can really hear the bits that inspired John Williams's score from Star Wars if you close your eyes and picture the Empire doing its thing... 😉
@Extra Google Account My previous comment was just basically congratulating Curious Droid on his selection of Holst's _The Planets._ But, yeah, you can listen through the whole Planets concert and you can hear all sorts of modern soundtrack cues. And there are many different performances of the Holst's work, as well, so you can hear different interpretations of it. It's amazing what a different take on the exact same notes can do to a piece of work. 😉
Thank you *so* much for this, Paul and Go4Gordon. The last seven minutes of this video? Pure hardcore pornography (at least to us engineering geeks), and I *love* it.
I'm impressed by the umbilical cords being neatly packed away at 4:05. I'm sure it's nothing new though, I just haven't seen it so closely before. Props for the straight up admission "I was wrong" right at the start of the video!
Thanks CD Paul for posting this footage! The videos for the public don't impress me, but these engineering films absolutely do. BTW, that poor bird at 4:13! I guess it got air-fried.
I subscribed earlier because of the footage and the content in your delivery. Now I know it was a good decision because you follow up on your videos when you make a mistake. Highly highly appreciated!
The most impressive part is the the fact that the film handled this at night such is the dynamic range of the film used. Would be great to see the next launch on a bright sunny day.
This is fantastic, on the one hand it's fixed a major gap in the original video but on the other hand, that wasn't on the public record at the time, so no foul. And the contrast between this footage and the digital even more strongly makes your original point. Love the editing with Mars, the Bringer of War, gave me goosebumps! The film footage also reminds that Artemis is using state-of-the-80's tech, however impressive it remains!
The vexing thing is that incident is exactly where the best footage possible is needed to find out what chunks went into what nozzles or what other part of the engine compartment. If one is running a go fast and break things program then one should be shooting it with the absolutely best cameras available. And maybe SpaceX and they’re just not releasing it since they failed so spectacularly with Starship.
I'm glad they still use those "old" techniques because they look amazing. There's something to be said about how film looks and a lot of that is shot at a meager 16mm. Outstanding! Also, after watching the Smarter Everyday series on Kodak film and how it's made, this makes me appreciate film footage even more than I ever have. Watch that series. It will blow your mind. Cheers! Also, thanks for posting this! 😀
I was so pleased when the algorithm took me straight to the film footage after watching your original video. The space community rarely disappoints! Superb editing in of The Planets.
Kind of restores one's faith to some extent. NASA still doing NASA without any hullabaloo. That's as wonderful to know as these truly incredible, astonishing, proper-NASA images (the Holst helps, too, of course!) are to see. And they are apex NASA. Gorgeous and timeless. Over to you SpaceX. Match that!
Thank you so much for this, I couldn't imagine a better edit, AND you let us see the engine blast for a good few seconds after the rocket ha past several times. But the crowning glory was the impeccable musical timing from 9.00 to when the boosters were jettisoned. Top notch, oh and thanks again 😁
@Phillip Banes You didn't watch the last video OR this one, did you? Digital chops up reality into little pieces--losing data in the process. Film does better for contrasty situations. Anyway, book a flight on your pilotless jet
I love how you didn't just publish a comment or retraction post somewhere, which would have been more than fine and showed integrity aimed at making factual content but went further and made a whole video. Thank you for being you, in the age of alternative facts you are a ray of sunshine (with great shirts).
Well I’ll be damned-I worked on camera systems for multiple NASA missions in my career and even I didn’t know they were still using high speed film for this!
I've just come here after watching the Space-X Axiom Dragon crew launch. The footage in this video is spectacular, thanks muchly for editing and posting this, Paul.
Amazing video, I love it!!! ❤ I'm just wondering at around 4:15 seconds did anyone else see the bird? I wonder what happened to it because of it being so close...
NASA should take a basic marketing class... they were sitting on this footage, they should have released this ASAP, people would be more excited about Artemis! Very cool!
I mean, public interest in the Apollo program dropped off significantly after the first landing, and didn't resume, to a lesser extent, until NASA almost lost 3 astronauts on 13... Why should they give a damn what the public thinks? The vast majority of us are selfish, self centered idiots...
I believe NASA tested one as a replacement for the first stage on the replacement rocket after the Saturn V before they went with the Space Shuttle but I might have my history wrong.
They used similar boosters on a few other rockets. But they can be stopped by destroying them with the emergency FTS explosives, just like they did with Superheavy after the hydraulic mechanisms failed .
These are indeed the largest and most powerful SRBs currently. These ones here are very similar to the ones that flew on the Shuttle but with several modifications made. There is an additional segment which means more propellant and thrust, the nozzle was redesigned, the internal avionics are far more modernized, the internal insulation was changed etc. Despite this, NASA and Northrop Grumman are currently working on an even more powerful version for SLS called the BOLE booster that will be made with composite material. It will use a different propellant, a new redesigned aft skirt that will have mass improvements with improved avionics and a redesigned thrust vector controllers among other things. There have been 2 successful subscale test fires and Northrop is expecting a full-scale test fire currently scheduled for Spring next year.
Looked it up. Aerojet tested a SRM for NASA in the mid 60s. Called the 260 for being 260 inches in diameter it produced more than 5 million pounds of trust.
Wow. Just wow. TBH, it is kind of weird why they don't release these films. They are just way cooler and really communicates the sheer violence in a way the other videos just can't.
What a community. It shares with its members all the sundry titbits of information with you to produce THIS masterpiece. Holst's "Mars" goes so well with this footage, too. Mahalo nui loa!
Love to see the spacex comparable engineering video documentation that must exist and if it does not exist, why¿¡?! Clearly spacex is the best so they absolutely must have videos that show what actually happened at liftoff. Then it sorta suggests if these videos exist why is spacex not providing their fan base with the good stuff? These videos would really remove the speculation about why somethings happened vs getting some generic two sentence pronouncement.
Oh, I'm sure sure SpaceX has engineering footage. I'm also quite sure we'll never get to see most of it. That's the difference between public funding (NASA) and private ownership (SpaceX).
@@TheBleggh Precisely, and so many people buy into believing that spacex is so transparent. Part of the issue is that they decided to do their testing on a site that is so easily accessible to people that have made a “cottage industry” out of providing incomplete information to the rabid fan base.
Thanks Paul for posting this update on your last video, very impressive footage. Thanks Greg for telling Paul about these files, you rock! This is insane footage, wow.
I think your point about the advantages of film over digital was super interesting and the fact they don't go out of there way to show this awesome footage is a bummer. Thank you and the original person who filed the paperwork for bringing it to light!
Absolutely nothing wrong with making mistakes as long as they get corrected. Thanks for continuing to set an example of excellence
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I have to vehemently disagree, only in that corrections NEVER reach the same audience as the initial information. At least, never in any kind of timely manner.
Curious Droid deserves the benefit of the doubt, but many, _many_ others do not whatsoever.
@@ashkebora7262 well he also wasn't trying to persuade anyone one way or another and the info right, wrong, or incomplete (they have it but they don't show it anymore is essentially the same thing) I don't think it was very impactful since it was a vehicle for information about something else. You'd only need to give him the benefit of the doubt if there was any doubt.
That being said i know what you mean and news outlets have been using that trick forever. Make a bombastic incorrect statement, then correct it on the back page in small print a month later.
@@bac1308 Yeah, CD's mistake is an _honest_ mistake, not a sign of lack of effort or blatant manipulation.
Though I always have to push back on idioms and other expressions that horrible people use as cover. While there is wisdom in basically all of them, there are still varying amounts of idiocy in them, too.
Not the least of which are the myriad expressions around "honest mistakes".
Even if the mistake is honest, correcting it is _never_ as simple as fessing up to the mistake.
If you correct your own mistake is it error. Nope it’s quality checking
Hey, if you hadn't have been wrong then I never would have seen this amazing footage! Thank you so much for your diligence! I hope you and your family are well going into this summer, and I think I can speak for everyone here when I say that we appreciate so much the effort that you put into the content that you give to us, for free!
They were wrong about the footage not existing. They were right about how good it looks!
Watching those Artemis slow motion films is a thing of beauty.
Edit: The music for these is a nice touch.
The music is from Gustav Holst's 'The Planets' suite, specifically 'Mars'.
@@sunnyjim1355 An easy pick. Where the resonance with Koyaanisqatsi is off the scale.
It’s last century Dracula films background music 🤪
@@sunnyjim1355 Too bad all I could think of was Henchmen 21 and 24.
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Now compare that to the space x crap show of malfunctioning engines flaming out, utterly destroying the pad and then blowing up. Professionals vs amateurs.
This gives me hope that film's comeback IS happening and that it will level back out as a companion to digital. It's an art that SHOULD NOT be lost.
these are shot digitally
A bit of a correction. Go4Gordon only got a single part of the footage released, the LOX TSMU Camera. There was a Public Affairs Officer working on clearing all of the film+MARS Tracking footage in the time since launch. Gordon definitely helped out with some of the process, as getting a clear shot of an umbilical plate cleared through FOIA helped clear some other shots that had stuck, but the PAOs for the Artemis program absolutely deserve a shoutout for their hard work!
(Quick note, not trying to discredit Gordon here as they are an outstanding member of the Spaceflight community, just wanting to share that there are others who are helping get this footage to the public!)
This! Hats off to NASA PAO
@@go4gordon206 ITS THE MAN HIMSELF :O
@@Goliath83weirdo.
@@rocdaroc what? Why
Due to a misconfiguration in the computer controlled auto-exposure system, most of the pad cameras were underexposed on this launch. All camera exposures are centrally controlled by this system now as opposed to Shuttle where they were controlled by each individual camera's AE unit.
Thank you for making the correction. I was fortunate enough to support Artemis I and got to know the teams that are responsible for capturing and doing analysis on the film. I ended up being the 12th person (give or take) to view the high speed film post-launch!
A couple of facts: most of the film is ASA/ISO 400, post-launch it's sent to a well known film manufacturer for processing and some scanning, it's again processed by engineering teams at KSC and MSFC before being shared with NASA internally.
Honestly a massive effort went into getting these released to the public, absolutely incredible images were captured. Hats off to those who made it happen!
I got chills watching that film footage. It had such a "vintage" feel to it. It's hard to describe exactly what I mean. Something about the combination of image detail, contrast, and the inherent mild HDR effect that chemical film has.
It almost seems like something you've expected to see in a cold war film reel if not for all the modern technology on display. Seeing the cool blue of the LED pad spot lights rendered on film grain is a very interesting vibe.
Yeah that was amazing. It was such a mindfuck having wondered the same as the previous video about the lack of good footage and associating the Apollo era with a certain "look." Then to find out mere seconds after finishing the previous video that this one existed (after noticing a comment about footage being made public), just wow. So cool, so surreal, so confusing, so amazing.
Also the way he even put in that extra effort to not only give us some great shots and good music but to actually time them beautifully was just above and beyond and really added to the experience (though it got a bit loud at times).
You've done a sublime job of selecting, editing, arranging, and setting to music this mind-blowing, gorgeous footage. The footage of the exhaust plumes is my favourite, hands down, followed by the "ballet" of everything disconnecting and retracting and swinging away, and the stage separation. As amazing as the separation is to watch, I'm fascinated with the choreography of all the things that have to move!
It was beautiful. I'm blown away by the few seconds around ignition when things get sucked back up, then blasted, and the way you see everything start to shake from the power of giant goddamn rockets blasting heat and power and shockwaves right into the ground while everything holds together in spite of its might.
Absolutely crazy that NASA had to be pushed into releasing this. If I was sitting on that footage I'd want everyone to see it.
NASA don't need to have footage for marketing, unlike SpaceX.
Seriously. Show off the cool stuff we're indirectly paying you to do. And they probably SHOULD be "marketing" their swagger so that we know about it and feel like its worth keeping in the budget.
@@BTW... Not true. NASA is not immune from having their budgets cut or their programs cancelled. Remember how constellation turned out? Even the Webb telescope was on the ropes at one point. They are essentially marketing to congress, and indirectly to us the taxpayers.
Some dumb middle manager probably figured no-one would care, and didn't want to put in the minimum effort to release it.
@@BTW... I know it seems that way, but public opinion is what keeps all of our big ticket items alive
I've lived 30 miles down the road from the Cape for over 20 years. I've seen shuttles, delta, delta heavy atlas, falcon 9 weekly, BFR all from my front lawn. Artemis launch was not only the most amazing launch I've ever seen but one of the most amazing sights I've ever seen in my life.
Those boosters turned night into day.
Interestingly you saw a BFR...
from Cape 🤭
I have lived in/on the Space coast (Brevard County) since 1998. I too have seen Many Many launches day/night and the Artemis Launch was.... in MY opinion not comparable to any Shuttle Launch I have ever seen.
Just MY opinion.
@@Arghira Pretty sure he meant Falcon Heavy. Long before Starship, it was a BFR.
@@jonathandavisofkorn6919 I've only ever seen one night launch of the Shuttle, and it was absolutely spectacular! I think it was STS-67 Endeavour. (6 daytime launches) Hope to make it over the pond to see Artemis one day, to compare! 🙂
Obviously, a thank you to the folks for gaining and advising the video access is deserved. That said, you did an OUTSTANDING job of assembling and editing this video. A superb job! Kudos, as always
revenue sharing
without any sacrifices in footage, these clips are superbly edited to the music. That effort didn't go unnoticed - Thank you Paul, this was sublime.
Great to see this mea culpa Paul, and the fact that you are willing to issue a correction. Stunning new footage as well.
The quality of the channel can almost be directly correlated with the quality of their mea culpas.
I do want to say that you weren’t fully wrong. The digital cameras mounted currently couldn’t produce the same image quality as the old film cameras from Apollo and the Shuttle. You were right about that. And the reason why this footage exists is because they used those old film cameras again. Pretty neat to see them use film! I love film photography so this is a neat fact to hear
I think a lot of the shuttle film that we see wasn’t released for general public viewing until after the program was over. Glad to hear that we are getting to see this now! Good work!
Great work with the Holst music, building towards those last climactic shots 🎥🚀🎻🎺
That shot aiming down from the top of the tower as it comes up is just so epic. Thanks for bringing this to my attention as it was brought to yours. Fantastic! So very awe inspiring.
That shot was the one that had me saying "damn......." such a cool view!
That was just a thing of beauty
The horizontal shot is amazing. It made it look like the craft was leaving a space station.
It's amazing to see Artemis 1 in this level of quality.
It also really sells how _fast_ the SLS gets off the ground. Other comparable rockets seem to almost lumber into the air, even the more powerful Superheavy looked quite sluggish on launch, but Artemis 1 went up amazingly quickly.
Hoping for a daylight launch soonish, so we can see it in even better detail.
Well, Starship was down 3 engines and also at 90% throttle. Hopefully it does better on the next try.
Someone needs to put up a thrust/weight comparison of Saturn V vs SLS.
...I mean I could do it myself, but I'm giving the chance for someone more interested and less lazy get the kudos
@@gtaxmods
Ya, super heavy was down 3 engines and starship had no cargo. Where r the comparable spacex videos. But don’t worry we got raptor 3 video but no explanation of why 3 raptors have twice not shown up for their job. It has been repeatedly stated how super reliable the raptors r¿¡?!
@@h8GW looks like Saturn V was about 1.2 and SLS was about 1.5
@@Mentaculus42 Incorrect. Raptors are still in development. You’re referring to the Merlin engines in Falcon.
That last shot has to be one of the all time greats! The quality, the exposure, the tracking….just wow!
cant beat 16mm old film, the dynamic range is so great.
Even more mind-blowing is the 70mm footage from Apollo.
@@1_2_die2 which footage used 70mm? would love to see it!
@@1_2_die2 I wish I could see Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer in full resolution, he has shot and edited the movie in 70/15. That is 70mm but sideways, taking 3 frames compared to classic 70mm. But almost no IMAX theatre can play it.
Chemistry of silver is less limited than ADCs of CMOS sensor.
I wonder if this footage is in log format and needs color correction to be more true to life.
ANYBODY who stands up and says when and where they were wrong is high value indeed. Many thanks for this follow up video.
You weren't *wrong* , you just didn't *quite* have all the information - there's a difference !
Agree on this. Without him bringing up this topic, we won't get to see these amazing footages.
Cylon voice: "The information is not complete."
It's incredible how much effort it takes to more or less push a thing away from another thing, and it's absolutely awe inspiring to see it in such clarity.
Some things ARE BIGGER than other things?
@@dallesamllhals9161 :o
@@hashbrownz1999 ..agree...
We got two amazing videos out of this. I got to learn about the old engineering footage, modern streaming footage, and now, modern engineering footage. And boy is it a thing of beauty 😍
RIP the two pigeons closest to the stand that made a noble sacrifice for such great rocketry
This is fantastic! I watched your previous video about the high quality film captures of the past and was a bit sad about the lack of amazing footage nowadays... well the sadness only lasted a day and a half! 😛 Thanks for this amazingly quick update, love your choice of music and the pacing.
These videos really show the level of refinement and engineering the NASA projects are.
Thanks for posting these fabulous images. You've got one of THE great UA-cam channels, appreciate the work.
Wow. That last shot is just incredible. Thank you for posting this.
This post just made me trust even more in the quality of information you provide. Your videos are superb no matter what.
That shot at 5:37 showing the shockwaves pushing and pulling the exhaust cloud in and out was particularly interesting. Fantastic compilation, thank you for sharing and big props to the guy who went through the FOIA to get this released to the public.
Even the best can make a mistake. I consider your channel the best on YT Paul no matter what genre. Your narration is always clear and concise excellent factual data quality film clips. Loved the music for this excellent choice. A+
A mistake is when someone accidentally and unintentionally does something incorrect when they actually know the proper procedure / have the correct information. This is entirely different from having new information come to light , which is the situation here.
@@bobroberts2371 no one ever claimed Nasa stopped using film, he just guessed they did, he guessed wrong and correct himself. Everyone is happy
ultra MEGA SUPER THANKS for bringing this to my attention! INSANE SUPER ULTRA THANKS to the entire community and Gordon to have the presence of mind for the FOIA requests to release this priceless footage!
WHAT INSANE POWER!
And thanks to this channel for the fantastic editing of the footage!!
Wonderful. I am so glad that NASA has maintained that form of data collection. If it had been a daylight launch it would have been even greater. Thank you for bringing this footage to public view whoever you are "Freedom of Information" person. Inspiring!
We are just so accustomed to SpaceX launches using live digital action cams that doesn't look that good that we could forget how good Artemis launch looks like ! Thanks for sharing this footage
Why, in the name of God, did NASA not rush these out to the public after the launch!? This is straight up Apollo chills!
Probably because there is so much going on internally and it would take a huge effort to publish everything not to mention the cost of data storage on a public network.
NASA engineers still have this idea that the public doesn't want to see their 'boring' home videos that they use for their job.
I don’t know, but I suspect that digitizing that super high quality film is not trivial.
@@pat8988 I'd be surprised if this is actually shot on film. More likely digital, you can get much higher FPS that way.
@@michaelkalus7802 I feel like you should watch the video again. These were indeed shot on film.
You did a fantastic job of editing and matching the music. Thanks so much. Makes me want to go see the next Artemis launch in person. BRAVO!
How good to see these engineering footages. Old school lives on. Thanks to you and your members for giving us the opportunity to see them.
Paul you are a top human for handling this oopsie in the best manner, and for bringing us the footage as a bonus. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this! It took me back to watching the Apollo launches as a child... :)
I'd say a fair comparison would be between tv live broadcasting in the 60s against nowadays digital live images. Great work guys!
Putting on 'Mars' by Holst as the soundtrack in the second half of the video was inspired. Spine-tingling pleasure!
I was in film school about 13 years ago and we got a presentation from a Kodak representative about their film stocks. He told me that NASA was their largest customer for 16mm film. I was already wondering if it changed so recently. I'm happy they didn't. This footage is awesome.
ALWAYS love Holst. Thanks for the extended "retraction" video. Great music, great video.
@ 7:15 just WOW! That big KICK of the shock wave and that thing utterly takes off like a home run swing to a baseball! Simply stunning knowing how massive this rocket is. What a shot!
Wes Anderson would be happy with the framing of this shot!
Great video, love this stuff. And great choice of music, Holst would be have been seriously blown away by these new associations to his art.
There's no way that Bird survived!
If it did, that's some amazing luck.
Yes, I saw that but in a later shot you can see that its off to one side and not as close as it appears, otherwsie judging by the size of it compared to the rocket, it would have to be huge.
I bet KFC were annoyed they missed that one.
Wow! An enthralling 7 minutes. That sideways liftoff shot was so Thunderbirds! Thanks for bringing this great footage to UA-cam.
PS: You can really tell how Holst's _The Planets_ influenced/inspired future sci-fi soundtrack composers. When listening to _Mars_ you can really hear the bits that inspired John Williams's score from Star Wars if you close your eyes and picture the Empire doing its thing... 😉
I'm not familiar with the background info you gave, but I had the same conclusion/thought. Definite empire vibes in that music!
@Extra Google Account My previous comment was just basically congratulating Curious Droid on his selection of Holst's _The Planets._ But, yeah, you can listen through the whole Planets concert and you can hear all sorts of modern soundtrack cues. And there are many different performances of the Holst's work, as well, so you can hear different interpretations of it. It's amazing what a different take on the exact same notes can do to a piece of work. 😉
Also influenced the score of the Alien. It is slow and meant to be mysterious but the influence is clerly there.
F’n awesome, mouth was agape the entire slowmo and the music was outstanding and epic. Thanks
Thank you *so* much for this, Paul and Go4Gordon. The last seven minutes of this video? Pure hardcore pornography (at least to us engineering geeks), and I *love* it.
I'm impressed by the umbilical cords being neatly packed away at 4:05. I'm sure it's nothing new though, I just haven't seen it so closely before. Props for the straight up admission "I was wrong" right at the start of the video!
Thanks CD Paul for posting this footage! The videos for the public don't impress me, but these engineering films absolutely do. BTW, that poor bird at 4:13! I guess it got air-fried.
Mars by Gustav Holst is more than fitting for those shots! Great experience and Thank you!
That looks truly EPIC, the film really gives a sense of the mass and power of SLS. And the soundtrack was perfect, thanks Paul!🚀🚀👍👍
I subscribed earlier because of the footage and the content in your delivery. Now I know it was a good decision because you follow up on your videos when you make a mistake. Highly highly appreciated!
The most impressive part is the the fact that the film handled this at night such is the dynamic range of the film used. Would be great to see the next launch on a bright sunny day.
What a great video thank you so much! Loved the finale with Holst!
This is fantastic, on the one hand it's fixed a major gap in the original video but on the other hand, that wasn't on the public record at the time, so no foul. And the contrast between this footage and the digital even more strongly makes your original point.
Love the editing with Mars, the Bringer of War, gave me goosebumps!
The film footage also reminds that Artemis is using state-of-the-80's tech, however impressive it remains!
I never realised how much inspiration John Williams took from this music when he wrote the 'Starwars Imperial march'!
Wow! Incredible stuff. Thanks for posting this, Paul. And all with no chunks of concrete flying around!
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the catastrophy would be to explode the chunks of concrete to oblivion. now it just prooved how strong those raptors are :D
@@antonis190811 or how pigheaded Musk is?
The vexing thing is that incident is exactly where the best footage possible is needed to find out what chunks went into what nozzles or what other part of the engine compartment. If one is running a go fast and break things program then one should be shooting it with the absolutely best cameras available. And maybe SpaceX and they’re just not releasing it since they failed so spectacularly with Starship.
I wasn't laughing at this guy's comment (which was incredibly inane) but something else, also incredibly inane.
I'll never watch again... Who am I kidding? Your videos are consistently imformative and... great!
7:10 is where this video hits its peak. Love the idea of viewing a shot that way.
It's like an arrow loosed from its bow!
Wow, Paul, what a great group effort, and thank you for editing down the hours of footage to a useable 10 mins for viewer appreciation. Thank you.
This warrants a daytime launch ASAP this is just utterly amazing
SLS launches are incredibly expensive . They only launch when the Moon is exactly in the right place for the rocket to get there .
@@johndododoe1411 They also get to the Moon and get back safely. You get what you pay for
@@RideAcrossTheRiver But at that price, they shouldn't waste a launch just to film it in daylight!
@@johndododoe1411 What is this about price? What cost safety?
You were not wrong before. You gave the best analysis with the information available. You are just now more correct.
I'm glad they still use those "old" techniques because they look amazing. There's something to be said about how film looks and a lot of that is shot at a meager 16mm. Outstanding! Also, after watching the Smarter Everyday series on Kodak film and how it's made, this makes me appreciate film footage even more than I ever have. Watch that series. It will blow your mind. Cheers! Also, thanks for posting this! 😀
I was so pleased when the algorithm took me straight to the film footage after watching your original video. The space community rarely disappoints!
Superb editing in of The Planets.
I love everything you cover, thank you.
As launch starts, the music builds and the image shakes with the power of these engines, I was shaking too with excitement.
Kind of restores one's faith to some extent. NASA still doing NASA without any hullabaloo. That's as wonderful to know as these truly incredible, astonishing, proper-NASA images (the Holst helps, too, of course!) are to see. And they are apex NASA. Gorgeous and timeless.
Over to you SpaceX. Match that!
Thank you so much for this, I couldn't imagine a better edit, AND you let us see the engine blast for a good few seconds after the rocket ha past several times. But the crowning glory was the impeccable musical timing from 9.00 to when the boosters were jettisoned. Top notch, oh and thanks again 😁
It seems almost unreal to see a rocket on 16mm film and then see the 2022 date code. Awesome that film still has a place in engineering.
YES! I wonder what filmstock they’re using?
Maybe spacex had it on the olm?
@Phillip Banes You didn't watch the last video OR this one, did you? Digital chops up reality into little pieces--losing data in the process. Film does better for contrasty situations. Anyway, book a flight on your pilotless jet
@@cancermcaids7688 Also depending on film stock will have a better resulution while being quiet resilient especially in low light.
@@Joe_VanCleave There are only 2 options left; Vision 3 (50D 250D 200T 500T) or Ektachrome
I love how you didn't just publish a comment or retraction post somewhere, which would have been more than fine and showed integrity aimed at making factual content but went further and made a whole video. Thank you for being you, in the age of alternative facts you are a ray of sunshine (with great shirts).
Well I’ll be damned-I worked on camera systems for multiple NASA missions in my career and even I didn’t know they were still using high speed film for this!
Love what you are doing with your channel. I hope you're happy and proud with what you do.
Great channel!
I've just come here after watching the Space-X Axiom Dragon crew launch. The footage in this video is spectacular, thanks muchly for editing and posting this, Paul.
Amazing video, I love it!!! ❤ I'm just wondering at around 4:15 seconds did anyone else see the bird? I wonder what happened to it because of it being so close...
This REALLY shows the power of SRB's
*Truly, the booster of all time*
NASA should take a basic marketing class... they were sitting on this footage, they should have released this ASAP, people would be more excited about Artemis! Very cool!
I mean, public interest in the Apollo program dropped off significantly after the first landing, and didn't resume, to a lesser extent, until NASA almost lost 3 astronauts on 13...
Why should they give a damn what the public thinks? The vast majority of us are selfish, self centered idiots...
Sometimes the internet provides in magnificent ways. I did not expect my desire for this footage to be so quickly and epically fulfilled.
Those SRBs are just amazing - are these the largest ever made? It's terrifying to think, once you've started one of those, you can't turn them off!
I believe NASA tested one as a replacement for the first stage on the replacement rocket after the Saturn V before they went with the Space Shuttle but I might have my history wrong.
They used similar boosters on a few other rockets. But they can be stopped by destroying them with the emergency FTS explosives, just like they did with Superheavy after the hydraulic mechanisms failed .
These are indeed the largest and most powerful SRBs currently. These ones here are very similar to the ones that flew on the Shuttle but with several modifications made. There is an additional segment which means more propellant and thrust, the nozzle was redesigned, the internal avionics are far more modernized, the internal insulation was changed etc. Despite this, NASA and Northrop Grumman are currently working on an even more powerful version for SLS called the BOLE booster that will be made with composite material. It will use a different propellant, a new redesigned aft skirt that will have mass improvements with improved avionics and a redesigned thrust vector controllers among other things. There have been 2 successful subscale test fires and Northrop is expecting a full-scale test fire currently scheduled for Spring next year.
Looked it up. Aerojet tested a SRM for NASA in the mid 60s. Called the 260 for being 260 inches in diameter it produced more than 5 million pounds of trust.
They're the largest ever flown. I think one was bigger and it was tested in the 60s but it never flew.
What a way to start the day! Thanks CD
Wow. Just wow. TBH, it is kind of weird why they don't release these films. They are just way cooler and really communicates the sheer violence in a way the other videos just can't.
I guess they needed more editing to make it public ... Noticed the cropping on certain shots...
The sheer power in those shots, absolutely astonishing, felt like watching the Apollo launches, man that's awesome
I would love to see Slow Mo Guys film some Spacex launches!
Don't need them to do what is already done.
This footage is NASA, not Spacex.
Beautiful, just beautiful. I love watching these engineering films, you get to see so many different shots of the launch. Thanks for sharing.
Highlights how much work SpaceX needs to do on the Starship launch site. No flying debris kicking up dust clouds and shards of concrete here.
This is one of those time where it feels good to be corrected because those footages were awesome.
this is the perfect example of a "happy accident". no mistakes. 😆
Thanks for the shoutout! I was thrilled to get the TSMU footage released before the larger release by NASA.
That bird at 4:13 had a seriously bad day.
What a community. It shares with its members all the sundry titbits of information with you to produce THIS masterpiece. Holst's "Mars" goes so well with this footage, too. Mahalo nui loa!
Love to see the spacex comparable engineering video documentation that must exist and if it does not exist, why¿¡?! Clearly spacex is the best so they absolutely must have videos that show what actually happened at liftoff. Then it sorta suggests if these videos exist why is spacex not providing their fan base with the good stuff? These videos would really remove the speculation about why somethings happened vs getting some generic two sentence pronouncement.
Oh, I'm sure sure SpaceX has engineering footage. I'm also quite sure we'll never get to see most of it. That's the difference between public funding (NASA) and private ownership (SpaceX).
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Precisely, and so many people buy into believing that spacex is so transparent. Part of the issue is that they decided to do their testing on a site that is so easily accessible to people that have made a “cottage industry” out of providing incomplete information to the rabid fan base.
Thanks Paul for posting this update on your last video, very impressive footage.
Thanks Greg for telling Paul about these files, you rock!
This is insane footage, wow.
I think your point about the advantages of film over digital was super interesting and the fact they don't go out of there way to show this awesome footage is a bummer. Thank you and the original person who filed the paperwork for bringing it to light!
This video of the film is amazing! This should be released on every launch!
Nice one Paul and Gregg.
Paul you timed the music just right for the SRB separation at the end.