When I was a little girl watching Cinderella, I couldn't care less about the prince, he was just "something" vaguely happening in the finale that didn't catch my attention at all... I was only fascinated by her character, the way she could still find beauty and kindness in that miserable life, the way she treated those animals around her, the super cute little mouses and everything... She was just dreaming of a night out with a beautiful dress, she wasn't thinking at all to be rescued by a man... The only thing I always found disturbing is that I so wanted her to wear the dress sewed by the little mouses (that sewing scene still makes me cry today), she didn't need that pompous dress from the fairy
So quick to jump into all the negative aspects of those movies, when they actually teach young people the value of compassion, generosity, resilience, and the meaning of standing one's ground. People are such a big pet peeve of mine for one of these reasons alone.
@@Korcsmaros but Cinderella also saved Prince from marrying dull, typically dressed woman who just wants his money. And in that time, divorce wasn't an option.
Cinderella has way more agency than people give her credit for. She doesn’t wait around for a prince. The one time she defies her abusers, she happens to fall in love with a prince, and that happens to be her escape route. She never once dreamed for a prince.
I never saw Cinderella as her waiting for a rich man to rescue her. She was being persecuted by her stepmother and yet she still stayed strong, she was determined she was getting to that ball and it proved that if you stick with your dreams magic can still happen. Little Mermaid broke all the rules for what she wanted. She was a tough girl/fish. I think they are both great role models for little girls personally
Cinderella is not a bad or weak character. She is hardworking, brave, and kind, despite being abused and going through loss. She goes after her dreams. She is a beacon of compassion. Ariel is adventurous, daring, and a fighter. She brought two worlds at odds with each other together. These are great films for kids.
The Original is JUST as good. Cinderella never went to that ball hoping a man would save her. She went to the ball to have some fun because her life at home was severely restricted. It just so happen that she met a man at the ball - they clicked and he just happened to be a fabulously wealthy prince. He was a very minor part in Cinderella's story imo
interesting. The Cinderella movie does revolve on the love of a man, that is a fact, and so does Ariel's movie, that's just a fact. every movie has conflict but the final goal was to b w a man.
Nataly Nunez i wouldn’t say that cinderella’s does. the fact that she meets with the prince is pure coincidence and she didn’t ever intend to see him. she shouldn’t be brought down as a character just because she happens to fall in love- it was never her main goal, anyway.
Saying that Cinderella should rescue herself is basically saying that victims of abuse are weak and don't make an effort to get out of their awful lives. Also, Cinderella does not wait around for a rich guy to rescue her, she escapes the room that her step-mother has trapped her in on her own merits, by using her own resources and with no help from the Prince
TelcontarRulz but she also works to save herself. she’s the one trying to unlock the door in the first place.. just because she eventually gets help doesn’t mean she’s weak, anyway. and even if it did, having some help from mice (some of whom are female) is way better than the ‘waiting for a rich hot prince to save her’ thing that everyone says happened in the film. 🙏
petrikovler She only made an effort after meeting the prince. Before, she had resigned herself to her life. Even when the house was empty and her stepmother and sisters had left for the ball, she just cried instead of taking all the valuables and leaving. The common theme between Cinderella and Ariel is that they are both spurred into action by a man and they only do so because of romantic interest in a man. Whereas a character like Mulan acts because she has other aspirations, saving her father’s life being one of them, and also finding herself.
@@TelcontarRulz Even if what you say is true about the subjective "common theme" of Cinderella and Little Mermaid is true and that they are only spurred to action by romantic attraction, so what? Not all women are or need to be Mulan. Many of women are perfectly content being Cinderella. And before you say, "Oh but there are so many more Cinderella movies where women base themselves around their attraction to men." Yes, because that's where we came from. I'm sure Disney will make plenty more movies akin to Mulan where the princesses don't need no man.
-I love the little mermaid, she is strong-willed and doesn't let people tell her who or what to like. Such an adventurous and lively woman and so compassionate! Humans (pirates) killed her mom and even though it brough so much heartache she was able to see the good in humanity and all that we have to offer, she even fell in love with a human. Yes she gave up her voice but it wasn't just for a man, it was for love.
I don't think she got the stories right... Cinderella was not waiting for the prince to rescue her, in fact she is the one who goes to the ball anyway and she is the one who escapes when the stepmother closes her inside and despite the abuses she suffers she is still brave and kind. She is a SURVIVOR! And The little mermaid..come on! There is LITERALLY a song about wanting to walk and be in the sun in the movie! That's her dream, she collected stuff for years! The prince is just a nice bonus ;)
They went there voluntarily. As she doesn't become the wife of a prince. She becomes a princess, with actual powers. She is the one who decides the fate of her family
Mallory Turner that’s not what cinderella or the prince wanted it to be, though. the prince was actually fed up with his father trying to force him to fall in love, and didn’t want to be at the ball in the first place. cinderella literally only wanted to go to have one night of peace. they fell in love with each other because they had a natural bond, not because they were specifically seeking out love and chose to marry the first person they laid eyes on. you know who did go to the ball to be on display for the prince?? the evil stepsisters.
The irony is that feminism is supposed to be about giving women the *freedom* to do what they want, not *dictating* to them what they can and cannot do.
Exactly!!!! If I want to wait for a prince that's within my rights!!! This girl just got lucky folks in HOllyweird thought she could sell tickets so they gave her a BUNCH of money so she doesn't have to work ever!
Are you serious? The world is full of media that implying women to be passive, waiting for men. What keira doing is just make a small barrier for her daughter.
한아름 agreeing with tyler here- neither of the movies keira was talking about support that ideal. ariel was in fact considered to be the first ‘active’ princess for going off on her own to become human, and cinderella proves that she’s strong by standing up to her abusers while also finding a way to stay kind her whole life.
Ariel gave up her voice because she wanted to be a human and was in love.. would you rather if she stayed in the sea and was miserable for the rest of her life?
Yes You're right. I grew up watching them and never ever focused on the stuff she mentioned. Cinderella taught me to dream big and that everything is possible no matter how big your dreams are and little mermaid taught me that u can make everyone fall in love with u without speaking, saying a word, it's your actions that matter. So maybe if she sat with her daughter and explained these cartoons actual meanings and morals- that way she would have a different outlook on them idk
This woman hasn't seen a Disney movie in a long time and it shows. People who constantly make Cinderella out to be this pinnacle of anti-feminism are basically saying the abusive situation she was put in against her will since she was a CHILD was her fault and she was weak for not solving it on her own a long time ago. Her simplifying the characters circumstances in such a way speaks to a broader issue and she outta sit down and watch the movie all the way through herself. She thought she was being so progressive too. Peak ignorance.
I’d love a man to show up on a talk show and say “men, don’t save the woman tell her to save herself”. These people think they’re being so progressive. They’re actually creating a huge divide.
She's a great actress and also very pretty, but my God I didn't know someone could say something so dumb. I guess it's an example of what extreme feminists got wrong. They condemn everything related to femininity, traditional roles, homemaking etc. True feminism is about giving women the freedom to choose. But when she says such things, she implies that some women are better than others. I want to work and be independent but if a woman wants to stay at home to be a homemaker or wants to bag a rich man and be his trophy wife, that's none of your business. If they are both happy like this then live and let others live. Hypocrite.
Keira needs to watch these Disney movies again and open her eyes and go behind it. And who calls the choice of her daughters Halloween costume boring? Really? „Yeah support her in anything she wants to do?“
The way she side-eyed the American audience and put her drink down when they started chanting "chug chug" was the most British thing I've ever seen her do, lol. Awesome.
Technically the little mermaid she gave her voice up because she wanted legs the guy was icing on the cake and she was being rebellious sooo not completely horrible lol. There was also alot of her saving him from drowning which I think it was one of the first princess movies you see a princess rescuing the man instead of sitting their watching him drown or waiting for a miracle she actually jumped in and saved him and went after the sea witch she didn't just sit on the side lol.
i love Keira, but that she banned The little Mermaid... her idea is great, but at the end, Ariel gives up her voice mostly because of her dream (which is being finally a human), not just because of Eric. Well, I am not the mother of her child and it’s her decision obviously, I just wanted to tell you my opinion.
I just replied to another comment and it is kind of emblematic, though - there's a lot of room for discussion. In order to be with this guy, she does have to, in essence, change who she is, and losing her voice can be seen as a metaphor - even if it's not only "for the guy", it's in order to fit in, to be what she's always wanted to be (denying her very existence as what she was born as). I'm not saying it's one way or the other, but there is so much possibility for discussion. I love the little mermaid, and I watched it a million times as a child, but while the Disney version is definitely an improvement over the original, it can totally be seen as problematic. Other movies like Mulan or Pocahontas undeniably show a more assertive female lead😉
And also, the VILLAIN, Ursula, sings about how men don't care to hear women speak and she doesn't need her voice anyway. It's clearly addressed in the film.
i mean to each his own but Cinderella is such a great film, I watched it a million times throughout my childhood and i ended up just fine lol as if a movie could define your whole life’s values and principles pelase..
She plays the roll of a woman who needs constant saving by men (Elizabeth Swan), but her daughter is not allowed to watch a movie because someone is waiting for a man? Talk about hypocrisy!
What!? Elizabeth swan was the opposite of what you just said! She learned to fight and saved the others just as much as they saved her. She made plans and fought dirty and did everything which WASNT expected of a woman in that time period. Elizabeth swan is amazing
1. Putting it up like this, makes those movies seem more powerfull than the parents abilities to teach their kids the valuable things. 2. If i'm correct she played a woman who was saved and also waited several years alone for a cursed man who roamed the seas.
ehm she is not transformed to monkey she cant be ,,still beautiful,, :D nobody actually. Beautifulness have no limits. But it can be your point of view : ,,Oh i still like how she looks,, that sounds more realistic :)
I'm just going to say this. Ariel did not give up her voice for a man, she also wanted to become human. She even stated in part of your world, "what would I pay to spend a day warm on the sand? " Cinderella was not rescued by some Prince. All she wanted was a new dress and to go to a party. The prince was just a bonus. In the end sje was saved by her animal friends. In my experience, my parents banned me from watching princess cartoons and that made me want to watch them even more. And lastly, she just gives the same generic response as to hate princesses
Part two -- I grew up watching these movies and never thought that a man had to come rescue me. It's important to teach your own kids about reality vs. fiction too. (Even though most kids can figure this out themselves). There are more important things to protect your kids from -- like the advertising industry. All those ads young girls will see that send the message "you need makeup to look good" and "your body should look this way". Also girls are discouraged to go into fields like science and math, many times subconsciously . "oh that's for boys" etc. There's centuries of that kind of thinking that's ingrained in society. That's the kind of stuff to be focused on improving for girls, not "the little Mermaid" Keira even admitted she likes the movie! And she turned out just fine didn't she? Case and point!
I agree. I grew up watching these films and still watch them as an adult, but I didn’t wait for a man to rescue me. I agree with you on everything else as well. If young girls want to be scientist we should encourage them and also tell them not to pay attention to the toxicity of the media.
Keira has admitted that a child, she always played around with toys and would make up different stories and scenarios. This fascination prompted her to become an actress so that she would take different roles as her dolls did.
I can't wait until her daughter goes to school and has no idea what other kids are talking about. Or until they watch the movies in school, and her daughter can finally form her own opinions on the movies. Depriving a child of classic Disney films is like depriving a teen of wifi.
So Ariel didn’t give her voice up for a man, she wanted adventure even before Eric. She fought for what she wanted even if her dad was not happy. She saves Eric so that’s amazing. Yes, Ursula used her but it’s through Ariel’s passion of adventure and discovery that she was so willing to give up her voice. The man was just a bonus!
IsaacA192 but that was because they were working class, not because of their gender. If only men were oppressed for being working class that would be a valid point but,, women are too
That is a hypocritical of her! She watched those movies and was still able to grow into a confident, successful woman. Doesn't people realise they are fantasy stories?! Prince charming is as much a fictional character as a talking horse or a flying dragon! Or does thiseans she won't let her daughter ride horses because of that?!? Laughable. Maybe she should allow the same freedom she had growing up to her own daughter. And let me tell you, speaking as a parent, if you banned something in your house, guess what will be the first thing your child will do when he/she get a chance at a friend's house?? Hahahah
You can get glitter in your eye, that can be an even bigger problem if it gets lodged into your tear duct. As a witch myself, I like Keira Knightley and I think she said what she did out of ignorance, I must say it was hurtful to hear her say those things about witches. Dressing up as a witch for Halloween has had its controversy in the witch community but that's not what Keira Nightly was referring to and so that is a different issue.
LOOK, I've been watching classical disney movies like Cinderella and snow white since I was a child. But I have never ever took the film as just a story where princess is rescued by a prince or met a prince etc. I never even noticed or cared about the prince which baaarely appeared in the film. The film is much more than that. Babies and child dont care about the story. They care about the music, expression, art and the magical atmosphere that make them to float inside the film. Its these adults who are becoming blind on the true value of something by being too sensitive and extremely focused on one certain thing(women empowerment stuff) It is YOU who is making yourself only capable to think in that way. Look who is actually anti feminist now...🙄 Plus, all story are mainly focused on how the PRINCESS struggled in difficult circumstances so its not about marrying a prince. Meeting with a prince is just a tiney part of the story to sum up in a fairy tale manner lol. And I like it. It's cute. Like really, i feel bad for the children in this generation for not being able to experience and appreciate the magic walt disney used to give before... Story of nowaday's movies like Frozen and Moana seems more complicated and interesting than the simple story of classical movies like Cinderella, but i dont see or feel any magic and those excitement that legend artists created with hand drawing animation. It's not visually appealing anymore as they mainly focus on the Story... The faces of moana and frozen characters look almost the same.... I do like those films but it's sad how current Disney shifted entirely to 2D or 3D animation while forgetting the beauty of hand drawing animation. Anyway, I'm blessed to be raised up by watching classical Disney, especially cinderella! It's a shame how great actress like Kaira knightly don't understand the beauty of art! Thankyou Walt Disney for creating such a beautiful masterpiece!
This woman want her daughter live her mother dream and not make choices on her own by nnot installing values for her to make correct choices she sound controlling oops its hoolyweird
They are more than movies though, they have a deep cultural and mythological impact. Sad that people seem to get them wrong, parrot that misinterpertation and try to indoctrinate people from seeing them.
@@livealive7131 huh? if a character flips off someone, do you really think all children are going to imitate said character? especially if they have parents around to tell them "no, that's rude, not okay"
Exactly she’s the one that wanted to go to the ball on her own, and then saw the prince and they fell in love and she left at midnight and HE is the one going after her. She didn’t wait around for him to save her.
I watched princess' movies with my girls and my oldest when she was only five told me "She saw him once and she already wants to marry him? I think she needs to get to know him more! 😂😀😂
Cinderella is actually so much more than a movie *just* about a prince coming to a damsel’s rescue. She grew up in a household so mistreated and unloved, yet she turned to nature and animals to find an outlet for the utmost love and generosity she had to give. She was resilient and hardworking. These all make up for a strong woman. The Little Mermaid is also more about Ariel’s dream to explore world beyond water body and her strive to be a human being, creatures who have always fascinated her. Prince Eric was surely a push that enabled her to give up her voice, but it wasn’t for him. It was for the love she had developed for him and the world beyond theirs. *I am in no way disrespecting Keira’s decision. She’s the mother and she knows what’s better for her child. It’s just a personal opinion. I personally think she’s a good mother, from what we’ve seen so far.*
I agree on Snow White and somewhat on The Little Mermaid. But Cinderella isn’t anti feminist she is kind, hardworking and patient and meets the prince by chance she does wait for her him that’s Show White. Yes Clara was proactive but the film was trash. Elizabeth Swan is good, Dory, Frozen, Moana, Beauty and the Beast, Alice In Wonderland - all great. I love Cinderella also.
The man in the little Mermaid never asked Ariel to give up her voice for him, that was her psychotic, devouring aunt who did that. The moral of the story is - Don't listen to older psychotic women. Hope you're listening Ellen.
...Cinderella and Ariel are not "rescued by a rich guy" though... Had she pointed out Sleeping Beauty, or Snow White, then she might have had a small point, but Cinderella... It shows she doesn't understand those movies at all. And that's a shame coming from almost a "Disney Princess" herself.
I will ban my daughter from watching Keira knightley, as she seems to be a far worse influence on children than Cinderella & the little mermaid.. The rich & famous seem to think they set the present trends of today..In reality they are so different and out of touch from the average person.
Assume that Disney characters were really flawed ( which they are not in my opinion), they are still the most important parts of anime history! If we ignore and erase all of our arts from the past just because they contradict the contemporary ideologies we are just destroying the foundation of our improvements!
Come on people All those princess stories are about girls ending up with princes or sacrificing that reinforces heterosexual norms and women's dependence on men no matter how good their personalities are
Just because she played a damsel in distress in a movie, she cannot tell her daughter to not to watch movies which shows girls are incomplete without a prince? I think she has the best intension for her daughter. People are too eager to point out mistakes in parenting.
The problem here is that Keira knightly got a lot of things wrong about the princesses she mentioned. First off Cinderella didn’t get a happy ending because she got rescued by a rich guy, it was her hardwork, patience, and kindness that helped her earn her happy ending. Second Ariel didn’t just exchange her voice for a man, she wanted to become human even before meeting Eric. It’s also important to note that Ariel only went to Ursula after her father destroyed her collection which we can all agree was far too harsh.
@@ashleys8730 i agree with what you said on the Ariel one but not so much with Cinderella. Her hard work, patience and kindness would not have saved her if she wasn't pretty. At the end of the day, the prince saved her. She would've ended up being with her stepmother for the rest of her life if it wasn't for him and the fairy godmother.
QueenB The point is, the prince didn’t do any of the saving, it was Cinderella’s kindness and intellect that got her out of an abusive situation. (And of course the mice that backed her up)
Cinderella teaches children lessons of kindness, fairness, and patience.
No she was a strong woman who fought back see cinderlla 2 and 3 thoese movies are better than live action and first one
My 6 year old told me yesterday she wants to be a cashier at Target lol
Because: toys. Clothes. Other fun stuff.
DUH !!!!!
umm yeah you get to use any bathroom you want! Who wouldn't want to work there?
This made me actually laugh. Like Kristen Wiig from SNL.
That’s a great job.
This is very good
When I was a little girl watching Cinderella, I couldn't care less about the prince, he was just "something" vaguely happening in the finale that didn't catch my attention at all... I was only fascinated by her character, the way she could still find beauty and kindness in that miserable life, the way she treated those animals around her, the super cute little mouses and everything... She was just dreaming of a night out with a beautiful dress, she wasn't thinking at all to be rescued by a man... The only thing I always found disturbing is that I so wanted her to wear the dress sewed by the little mouses (that sewing scene still makes me cry today), she didn't need that pompous dress from the fairy
So quick to jump into all the negative aspects of those movies, when they actually teach young people the value of compassion, generosity, resilience, and the meaning of standing one's ground. People are such a big pet peeve of mine for one of these reasons alone.
"Rescue yourself" ... weren't you supposed to say that to Jack Sparrow when he was rescuing Elizabeth ? ?🤨
Yes, first Jack saved her, but later it was Elizabeth who saved them both when they were on the deserted island.
Korcsmaros that’s actually true
@@Korcsmaros but Cinderella also saved Prince from marrying dull, typically dressed woman who just wants his money. And in that time, divorce wasn't an option.
Cinderella has way more agency than people give her credit for. She doesn’t wait around for a prince. The one time she defies her abusers, she happens to fall in love with a prince, and that happens to be her escape route. She never once dreamed for a prince.
But there's literally a song where she says "one day my prince will come"
Alisha shiva That’s Snow White.
She dreamed of love. That’s a fact. Don’t try to deny that.
@@mm4843 so it wrong to dream of love?
@@mm4843 she dreams of love because she was raised in a abusive household devoid of love.
I never saw Cinderella as her waiting for a rich man to rescue her. She was being persecuted by her stepmother and yet she still stayed strong, she was determined she was getting to that ball and it proved that if you stick with your dreams magic can still happen. Little Mermaid broke all the rules for what she wanted. She was a tough girl/fish. I think they are both great role models for little girls personally
Cinderella is not a bad or weak character. She is hardworking, brave, and kind, despite being abused and going through loss. She goes after her dreams. She is a beacon of compassion.
Ariel is adventurous, daring, and a fighter. She brought two worlds at odds with each other together.
These are great films for kids.
I think she is talking about the original not the remake
The Original is JUST as good. Cinderella never went to that ball hoping a man would save her. She went to the ball to have some fun because her life at home was severely restricted. It just so happen that she met a man at the ball - they clicked and he just happened to be a fabulously wealthy prince. He was a very minor part in Cinderella's story imo
Zara Rose Their points are applicable either way.
interesting. The Cinderella movie does revolve on the love of a man, that is a fact, and so does Ariel's movie, that's just a fact. every movie has conflict but the final goal was to b w a man.
Nataly Nunez i wouldn’t say that cinderella’s does. the fact that she meets with the prince is pure coincidence and she didn’t ever intend to see him. she shouldn’t be brought down as a character just because she happens to fall in love- it was never her main goal, anyway.
Instead of banning movies, couldn't they watch them together and use the opportunity to discuss the decisions the characters made?
@MsUsagi513 haha! I love your comment it made my day :b with all of this nonsense
Just let the kid be a kid and figure it out. God you people are such anoying parents
Exactly!! Let them watch and figure stuff out !!
That takes thought :3
Yep. Completely agree.
Saying that Cinderella should rescue herself is basically saying that victims of abuse are weak and don't make an effort to get out of their awful lives. Also, Cinderella does not wait around for a rich guy to rescue her, she escapes the room that her step-mother has trapped her in on her own merits, by using her own resources and with no help from the Prince
In the Disney movie, a bunch of male mice rescue her. She has fewer lines than the mice.
TelcontarRulz but she also works to save herself. she’s the one trying to unlock the door in the first place.. just because she eventually gets help doesn’t mean she’s weak, anyway. and even if it did, having some help from mice (some of whom are female) is way better than the ‘waiting for a rich hot prince to save her’ thing that everyone says happened in the film. 🙏
petrikovler She only made an effort after meeting the prince. Before, she had resigned herself to her life. Even when the house was empty and her stepmother and sisters had left for the ball, she just cried instead of taking all the valuables and leaving. The common theme between Cinderella and Ariel is that they are both spurred into action by a man and they only do so because of romantic interest in a man. Whereas a character like Mulan acts because she has other aspirations, saving her father’s life being one of them, and also finding herself.
Isn't she aided by adorable rodents? Mouse-triarchy?
@@TelcontarRulz Even if what you say is true about the subjective "common theme" of Cinderella and Little Mermaid is true and that they are only spurred to action by romantic attraction, so what? Not all women are or need to be Mulan. Many of women are perfectly content being Cinderella.
And before you say, "Oh but there are so many more Cinderella movies where women base themselves around their attraction to men." Yes, because that's where we came from. I'm sure Disney will make plenty more movies akin to Mulan where the princesses don't need no man.
-I love the little mermaid, she is strong-willed and doesn't let people tell her who or what to like. Such an adventurous and lively woman and so compassionate! Humans (pirates) killed her mom and even though it brough so much heartache she was able to see the good in humanity and all that we have to offer, she even fell in love with a human. Yes she gave up her voice but it wasn't just for a man, it was for love.
I don't think she got the stories right...
Cinderella was not waiting for the prince to rescue her, in fact she is the one who goes to the ball anyway and she is the one who escapes when the stepmother closes her inside and despite the abuses she suffers she is still brave and kind. She is a SURVIVOR!
And The little mermaid..come on! There is LITERALLY a song about wanting to walk and be in the sun in the movie! That's her dream, she collected stuff for years!
The prince is just a nice bonus ;)
Btw..needing someone's help to get out of a situation doesn't make you fragile or needy!
angel secret but you do know that the whole point of the ball in Cinderella was for the girls to be on display for the prince to pick a wife right?
They went there voluntarily.
As she doesn't become the wife of a prince. She becomes a princess, with actual powers.
She is the one who decides the fate of her family
Erick was a hella nice bonus
Mallory Turner that’s not what cinderella or the prince wanted it to be, though. the prince was actually fed up with his father trying to force him to fall in love, and didn’t want to be at the ball in the first place. cinderella literally only wanted to go to have one night of peace. they fell in love with each other because they had a natural bond, not because they were specifically seeking out love and chose to marry the first person they laid eyes on. you know who did go to the ball to be on display for the prince?? the evil stepsisters.
Cinderella is so misunderstood it makes me sad.
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The irony is that feminism is supposed to be about giving women the *freedom* to do what they want, not *dictating* to them what they can and cannot do.
Exactly!!!! If I want to wait for a prince that's within my rights!!! This girl just got lucky folks in HOllyweird thought she could sell tickets so they gave her a BUNCH of money so she doesn't have to work ever!
well now, what she wants is to be the one doing the dictating. Get a life Keira Knightley.
Are you serious? The world is full of media that implying women to be passive, waiting for men. What keira doing is just make a small barrier for her daughter.
한아름, in neither Cinderella or The Little Mermaid do women wait passively for men, though.
한아름 agreeing with tyler here- neither of the movies keira was talking about support that ideal. ariel was in fact considered to be the first ‘active’ princess for going off on her own to become human, and cinderella proves that she’s strong by standing up to her abusers while also finding a way to stay kind her whole life.
LOVE KEIRA SO MUCH BUT SHE NEEDS TO REWATCH CINDERELLA AND THE LITTLE MERMAID
Recommend anyone doubting Cinderella as a feministic role model to watch ScreenSprism’s Stop Blaming The Victim
DEFINITELY
Idk I feel like she has a point about little mermaid... unless she wants to make a point about _not_ signing contracts with shady characters
Ariel gave up her voice because she wanted to be a human and was in love.. would you rather if she stayed in the sea and was miserable for the rest of her life?
Well, she does go back into the ocean in the sequel!
I love Keira but YIKES they're just movies. You're seriously gonna ban your daughter from watching them? 😂
Ariel gave her voice up to be a human, she always wanted to be a human! She sings about it in the begining of the movie
She's way too pleased with herself when she claims that she "banned" her daughter from seeing Cinderella and Little Mermaid
Well we can say the _pride_ and _prejudice_ *wink wink* got to her a little
Yes You're right. I grew up watching them and never ever focused on the stuff she mentioned. Cinderella taught me to dream big and that everything is possible no matter how big your dreams are and little mermaid taught me that u can make everyone fall in love with u without speaking, saying a word, it's your actions that matter. So maybe if she sat with her daughter and explained these cartoons actual meanings and morals- that way she would have a different outlook on them idk
@@zhanetaharutyunyan8535 yup .
Wasn't she in Pirates of the Caribbean who got rescued by a man?
Yes, multiple men in fact.
Too be fair tho she did rescue herself in the second one and in the third one she was a badass
That's what I was thinking 🤣
But at least she must've known that was wrong
Marcus Aurelius lllooooooolllll😂😂😂😂😂😂
This woman hasn't seen a Disney movie in a long time and it shows. People who constantly make Cinderella out to be this pinnacle of anti-feminism are basically saying the abusive situation she was put in against her will since she was a CHILD was her fault and she was weak for not solving it on her own a long time ago. Her simplifying the characters circumstances in such a way speaks to a broader issue and she outta sit down and watch the movie all the way through herself. She thought she was being so progressive too. Peak ignorance.
I’d love a man to show up on a talk show and say “men, don’t save the woman tell her to save herself”.
These people think they’re being so progressive. They’re actually creating a huge divide.
Well said
What's wrong with dividing women and men?
I watched all of those movies and I turned out great. ✊🏾👍🏾
She's a great actress and also very pretty, but my God I didn't know someone could say something so dumb. I guess it's an example of what extreme feminists got wrong. They condemn everything related to femininity, traditional roles, homemaking etc. True feminism is about giving women the freedom to choose. But when she says such things, she implies that some women are better than others. I want to work and be independent but if a woman wants to stay at home to be a homemaker or wants to bag a rich man and be his trophy wife, that's none of your business. If they are both happy like this then live and let others live.
Hypocrite.
Keira needs to watch these Disney movies again and open her eyes and go behind it. And who calls the choice of her daughters Halloween costume boring? Really? „Yeah support her in anything she wants to do?“
The way she side-eyed the American audience and put her drink down when they started chanting "chug chug" was the most British thing I've ever seen her do, lol. Awesome.
Technically the little mermaid she gave her voice up because she wanted legs the guy was icing on the cake and she was being rebellious sooo not completely horrible lol. There was also alot of her saving him from drowning which I think it was one of the first princess movies you see a princess rescuing the man instead of sitting their watching him drown or waiting for a miracle she actually jumped in and saved him and went after the sea witch she didn't just sit on the side lol.
I also think it's offensive to women that fire fighters are men 99.9% of the times. Only women should rescue women. It's degrading otherwise.
i love Keira, but that she banned The little Mermaid... her idea is great, but at the end, Ariel gives up her voice mostly because of her dream (which is being finally a human), not just because of Eric. Well, I am not the mother of her child and it’s her decision obviously, I just wanted to tell you my opinion.
YES!
Exactly! Not sure whether this is good parenting or not cuz those Disney movies are classics
I just replied to another comment and it is kind of emblematic, though - there's a lot of room for discussion. In order to be with this guy, she does have to, in essence, change who she is, and losing her voice can be seen as a metaphor - even if it's not only "for the guy", it's in order to fit in, to be what she's always wanted to be (denying her very existence as what she was born as). I'm not saying it's one way or the other, but there is so much possibility for discussion. I love the little mermaid, and I watched it a million times as a child, but while the Disney version is definitely an improvement over the original, it can totally be seen as problematic. Other movies like Mulan or Pocahontas undeniably show a more assertive female lead😉
same with cindrella she wasn't waiting for rich man to save her... she just want to be loved by someone
And also, the VILLAIN, Ursula, sings about how men don't care to hear women speak and she doesn't need her voice anyway. It's clearly addressed in the film.
Apparently feminist nowadays see being in a relationship as the opposite of female empowerment. Good job on undermining your child intelligence btw.
ariel gave up her voice for love, not a man. please don't try to make feminism toxic lol
What’s the problem with “for a man”
i mean to each his own but Cinderella is such a great film, I watched it a million times throughout my childhood and i ended up just fine lol as if a movie could define your whole life’s values and principles pelase..
She plays the roll of a woman who needs constant saving by men (Elizabeth Swan), but her daughter is not allowed to watch a movie because someone is waiting for a man?
Talk about hypocrisy!
What!? Elizabeth swan was the opposite of what you just said! She learned to fight and saved the others just as much as they saved her. She made plans and fought dirty and did everything which WASNT expected of a woman in that time period. Elizabeth swan is amazing
Surprised she didn't raise her daughter as a trans-lion.
1. Putting it up like this, makes those movies seem more powerfull than the parents abilities to teach their kids the valuable things.
2. If i'm correct she played a woman who was saved and also waited several years alone for a cursed man who roamed the seas.
I disagree with banning those movies
So Keira’s daughter is banned from watching Pirates Of The Caribbean. Yay, GIRL POWER.
She doesnt know what she is talking about in regards to Disney Princesses
Her knowledge is purely superficial; based on dolls and a couple of clips....
Exactly 🤦🏽♀️
Never liked her.
Oh man everyone defending Cinderella 😂😂😂
As they should. She’s overhated
Still the most beautiful woman in the world
ehm she is not transformed to monkey she cant be ,,still beautiful,, :D nobody actually. Beautifulness have no limits. But it can be your point of view : ,,Oh i still like how she looks,, that sounds more realistic :)
Meh. 7.5/10
Not even close.
*...erm. Okay ???* 😕
No doubt
I'm just going to say this. Ariel did not give up her voice for a man, she also wanted to become human. She even stated in part of your world, "what would I pay to spend a day warm on the sand? " Cinderella was not rescued by some Prince. All she wanted was a new dress and to go to a party. The prince was just a bonus. In the end sje was saved by her animal friends. In my experience, my parents banned me from watching princess cartoons and that made me want to watch them even more. And lastly, she just gives the same generic response as to hate princesses
Ariel gave up her voice for love. Not a man, but an emotion. Huge difference.
This is one of my favorite comments on Ariel thank u 😀
A man she had never even spoken to. Really would backfire in the real world
Serversinger Well the difference is that Cinderella is a cartoon for kids, it’s not the real world.
@@ArianaFlowersandDaveHowsare well women back in Ariel's day would marry men that they never spoke too before, so not a big deal honestly.
@@ArianaFlowersandDaveHowsare yes yes yes
Lets be honest her daughter will 90% grow up to be a "model" !!!!! All celebrities kids are!! even if they don't look it..... #nepotism !
what other use do 'pretty faces' have? useless when it comes to doing something important in the home.....
say goodbye to the next contract with Disney, or Marvel
"I WILL NOT work with glitter" *wearing a glitter dress*
My son watches Finding Dory and Moana every single day! He's a year and a half, already trying to sing all the songs and dancing along 😍💛
No screens before 3 is highly recommended and then with parsimony (obviously not every day). Read him stories instead.
What would childhood be without the Little Mermaid?
No where... From the series to the movie were both necessities.
People used to read books to their children.
I never saw The Little Mermaid until I was 19, and I turned out fine.
Part two -- I grew up watching these movies and never thought that a man had to come rescue me. It's important to teach your own kids about reality vs. fiction too. (Even though most kids can figure this out themselves). There are more important things to protect your kids from -- like the advertising industry. All those ads young girls will see that send the message "you need makeup to look good" and "your body should look this way". Also girls are discouraged to go into fields like science and math, many times subconsciously . "oh that's for boys" etc. There's centuries of that kind of thinking that's ingrained in society. That's the kind of stuff to be focused on improving for girls, not "the little Mermaid" Keira even admitted she likes the movie! And she turned out just fine didn't she? Case and point!
I agree. I grew up watching these films and still watch them as an adult, but I didn’t wait for a man to rescue me. I agree with you on everything else as well. If young girls want to be scientist we should encourage them and also tell them not to pay attention to the toxicity of the media.
Keira has admitted that a child, she always played around with toys and would make up different stories and scenarios. This fascination prompted her to become an actress so that she would take different roles as her dolls did.
I can't wait until her daughter goes to school and has no idea what other kids are talking about. Or until they watch the movies in school, and her daughter can finally form her own opinions on the movies.
Depriving a child of classic Disney films is like depriving a teen of wifi.
Depriving a teen of Wifi is a blessing lol
Did she actually watch the movies? Like Ariel sang part of your world way before she even knew Eric existed.
So Ariel didn’t give her voice up for a man, she wanted adventure even before Eric. She fought for what she wanted even if her dad was not happy. She saves Eric so that’s amazing. Yes, Ursula used her but it’s through Ariel’s passion of adventure and discovery that she was so willing to give up her voice. The man was just a bonus!
So giving up your voice, disobeying your father, and ditching your family is okay as long as it’s for adventure. Okay, cool. Got it.
Keira has a gentle personality. She’s also so pretty🙂
Does she ban movies where men make sacrifices for love?
@@thaliarice3891 Yes, the lower class have always been oppressed throughout history men and women alike.
@@thaliarice3891 then she never shouldve married a men..
IsaacA192 but that was because they were working class, not because of their gender. If only men were oppressed for being working class that would be a valid point but,, women are too
Thalia Rice we're talking about love, not social oppression ...
She criticized Cinderella for wanting to marry a rich guy but Elizabeth Bennet did the same thing with Mr. Darcy in Pride and Prejudice
Tell me you're not a legitimate feminist without telling me you're not an legitimate feminist:
È una misandrica
I lost it when Ellen said " Bring out the Margaritas" xD
You lost it.
She wasn't complaining getting saved in pirates of the caribbean
Wasn’t her character rescued in pirates of the Caribbean?
That is a hypocritical of her! She watched those movies and was still able to grow into a confident, successful woman. Doesn't people realise they are fantasy stories?! Prince charming is as much a fictional character as a talking horse or a flying dragon! Or does thiseans she won't let her daughter ride horses because of that?!? Laughable. Maybe she should allow the same freedom she had growing up to her own daughter. And let me tell you, speaking as a parent, if you banned something in your house, guess what will be the first thing your child will do when he/she get a chance at a friend's house?? Hahahah
cinderalla is a working class girl oppressed by the elite 😭
You can get glitter in your eye, that can be an even bigger problem if it gets lodged into your tear duct. As a witch myself, I like Keira Knightley and I think she said what she did out of ignorance, I must say it was hurtful to hear her say those things about witches. Dressing up as a witch for Halloween has had its controversy in the witch community but that's not what Keira Nightly was referring to and so that is a different issue.
I love how down to earth and funny she is, very humble!
When did Cinderella wanted to be "rescued"? Girl just wanted to go to the ball and happen to meet the Prince.
LOOK, I've been watching classical disney movies like Cinderella and snow white since I was a child. But I have never ever took the film as just a story where princess is rescued by a prince or met a prince etc.
I never even noticed or cared about the prince which baaarely appeared in the film.
The film is much more than that. Babies and child dont care about the story. They care about the music, expression, art and the magical atmosphere that make them to float inside the film.
Its these adults who are becoming blind on the true value of something by being too sensitive and extremely focused on one certain thing(women empowerment stuff)
It is YOU who is making yourself only capable to think in that way.
Look who is actually anti feminist now...🙄
Plus, all story are mainly focused on how the PRINCESS struggled in difficult circumstances so its not about marrying a prince. Meeting with a prince is just a tiney part of the story to sum up in a fairy tale manner lol. And I like it. It's cute.
Like really, i feel bad for the children in this generation for not being able to experience and appreciate the magic walt disney used to give before...
Story of nowaday's movies like Frozen and Moana seems more complicated and interesting than the simple story of classical movies like Cinderella, but i dont see or feel any magic and those excitement that legend artists created with hand drawing animation. It's not visually appealing anymore as they mainly focus on the Story... The faces of moana and frozen characters look almost the same.... I do like those films but it's sad how current Disney shifted entirely to 2D or 3D animation while forgetting the beauty of hand drawing animation.
Anyway, I'm blessed to be raised up by watching classical Disney, especially cinderella!
It's a shame how great actress like Kaira knightly don't understand the beauty of art!
Thankyou Walt Disney for creating such a beautiful masterpiece!
agreed!
This woman want her daughter live her mother dream and not make choices on her own by nnot installing values for her to make correct choices she sound controlling oops its hoolyweird
Blimey ~ she is a mum doing her best, she didn't suggest anyone else should think the same.. Wow
They're just movies, calm down...
They are more than movies though, they have a deep cultural and mythological impact. Sad that people seem to get them wrong, parrot that misinterpertation and try to indoctrinate people from seeing them.
right ! even as a child I knew movies were just fictional
@@livealive7131 huh? if a character flips off someone, do you really think all children are going to imitate said character? especially if they have parents around to tell them "no, that's rude, not okay"
Keira Knightley face is a classic beauty.
Keira Knightley: *drinks*
People: *clapping*
I wish people'd clap like that everytime I drink something...
Exactly she’s the one that wanted to go to the ball on her own, and then saw the prince and they fell in love and she left at midnight and HE is the one going after her. She didn’t wait around for him to save her.
We live in such a PC era that there's now a problem with watching Cinderella and The Little Mermaid.
She is so quick to jump into conclusions
She has started to look like Lena headey...
I was about to comment this... 😂
In both ways... Beautiful 💕
Exactly
Headey*
@@blingring1008 thank you...
Great! All British look alike :))
Lol "now she wants to be a lion" haha
Maybe reading classical Grimm tales is better than banning Disney movies
It's amazing how shallow people are.
I watched princess' movies with my girls and my oldest when she was only five told me "She saw him once and she already wants to marry him? I think she needs to get to know him more! 😂😀😂
She wanted to be unique and a strict mother but ended up criticising disney movies
Cinderella is actually so much more than a movie *just* about a prince coming to a damsel’s rescue. She grew up in a household so mistreated and unloved, yet she turned to nature and animals to find an outlet for the utmost love and generosity she had to give. She was resilient and hardworking. These all make up for a strong woman.
The Little Mermaid is also more about Ariel’s dream to explore world beyond water body and her strive to be a human being, creatures who have always fascinated her. Prince Eric was surely a push that enabled her to give up her voice, but it wasn’t for him. It was for the love she had developed for him and the world beyond theirs.
*I am in no way disrespecting Keira’s decision. She’s the mother and she knows what’s better for her child. It’s just a personal opinion. I personally think she’s a good mother, from what we’ve seen so far.*
I agree on Snow White and somewhat on The Little Mermaid. But Cinderella isn’t anti feminist she is kind, hardworking and patient and meets the prince by chance she does wait for her him that’s Show White. Yes Clara was proactive but the film was trash.
Elizabeth Swan is good, Dory, Frozen, Moana, Beauty and the Beast, Alice In Wonderland - all great. I love Cinderella also.
Wow.... the show isn’t scripted at all.... they just happened to have that jug of margarita and that lion dentist costume
glad you woke up, now check out 9/11
also a fake. but just go back to sleep again or watch tv.....
How will her child be able to integrate into society if such basic things are banned in her house? Wake up.
The man in the little Mermaid never asked Ariel to give up her voice for him, that was her psychotic, devouring aunt who did that. The moral of the story is - Don't listen to older psychotic women. Hope you're listening Ellen.
So Disney is ageist?!
I love her after watching Pride and Prejudice!!! Now, I've watched all her movies!
...Cinderella and Ariel are not "rescued by a rich guy" though... Had she pointed out Sleeping Beauty, or Snow White, then she might have had a small point, but Cinderella... It shows she doesn't understand those movies at all. And that's a shame coming from almost a "Disney Princess" herself.
I usually don't comment on these videos but that dress is stunning!
I will ban my daughter from watching Keira knightley, as she seems to be a far worse influence on children than Cinderella & the little mermaid.. The rich & famous seem to think they set the present trends of today..In reality they are so different and out of touch from the average person.
Me watching this in 2020: That mask from the costume will come handy.
Assume that Disney characters were really flawed ( which they are not in my opinion), they are still the most important parts of anime history!
If we ignore and erase all of our arts from the past just because they contradict the contemporary ideologies we are just destroying the foundation of our improvements!
Yeah in Cinderella prince was the ultimate protagonist or hero
What was his name??????
Even though u know Cinderella
Come on people
All those princess stories are about girls ending up with princes or sacrificing that reinforces heterosexual norms and women's dependence on men no matter how good their personalities are
Just because she played a damsel in distress in a movie, she cannot tell her daughter to not to watch movies which shows girls are incomplete without a prince? I think she has the best intension for her daughter. People are too eager to point out mistakes in parenting.
The problem here is that Keira knightly got a lot of things wrong about the princesses she mentioned. First off Cinderella didn’t get a happy ending because she got rescued by a rich guy, it was her hardwork, patience, and kindness that helped her earn her happy ending. Second Ariel didn’t just exchange her voice for a man, she wanted to become human even before meeting Eric. It’s also important to note that Ariel only went to Ursula after her father destroyed her collection which we can all agree was far too harsh.
@@ashleys8730 i agree with what you said on the Ariel one but not so much with Cinderella. Her hard work, patience and kindness would not have saved her if she wasn't pretty. At the end of the day, the prince saved her. She would've ended up being with her stepmother for the rest of her life if it wasn't for him and the fairy godmother.
QueenB Did you see the prince like storm into Cinderella’s house and bust her out. No. The prince wasn’t even present until the wedding day.
@@ashleys8730 what's your point? Still at the end of the day the prince got her out of there.
QueenB The point is, the prince didn’t do any of the saving, it was Cinderella’s kindness and intellect that got her out of an abusive situation. (And of course the mice that backed her up)
Aw, after watching this, now I want to watch Pride and Prejudice. 😊 My fav.!
I guess if in the Frozen sequel Elsa resques her girlfriend at some point, it would be perfectly fine, right?
Hypocrites.
Girlfriend?
She's so beautiful 😍
If you like flat washboards...
Can she clean the kitchen floor?
Ellen is such a witty host not let anyone relax...Keira so lively really a gentlewoman
If you're banning Disney films it sounds like your daughter isn't actually allowed to do what she wants in her safe space.
When you think she can’t get any more beautiful ❤️
Keira linda e uma atriz espetacular...
banning her child from watching fun disney movies just because she's too afraid of her! DRAMA QUEEN ALERT!