The Best PvPer just QUIT PvP in BDO.. | Blue Reacts to the Divios Donezo Manifesto
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
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0:00 Intro
0:05 Who is Divios?
1:29 Global Lab Options
6:44 Nodewars
11:38 Solare
15:40 1v1
16:05 Gearcaps/Gamemodes
23:19 Resist
26:08 Healing
31:43 Slows
34:16 Movement
39:31 Damage
46:10 Grabs
48:50 Shai
54:24 Valkyrie
56:45 Archer/Ranger
58:24 Sage
1:01:41 Witch/Wizard
1:04:59 Lahn
1:06:12 Drakania
1:08:19 Berserker
1:11:05 Nova
1:16:55 Striker/Mystic
1:23:24 Sorceress
1:24:33 TL;DR
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The reason why i didn't play GVG is that you have to keep adjusting your equipment, crystals, and skills. Depending on what tier your guild is doing. I think it's just a hassle, especially for new players
I just started to get into PvP and it's too much for me at 750gs lol
new players mostly wont do the things you said. they just enjoy the moment. You only do those things when you've played the game a decent amount of time and now wanna "try hard" imo
I don't really watch any BDO content (or gaming videos in general) but I saw your collab with asmongold a few months ago and just wanted to say I am really glad you are still grinding the content creation train and are pushing out more and more content.
You give off the vibe of the same teachers I used to lookup to growing up and I just wanted to say I appreciate everything you have done and if there is some sort of patreon or donation link you have just let me know :)
Thank you so much for the kind words. The patreon is actually coming this month. I am working on the launch but I want to make sure its done correctly. Thank you for supporting me as I make this transition. I do feel I can bring many of the qualities of my teaching into content creation over time as I evolve as a creator, and I look forward to all the possibilities that involves.
@@bluesquadronlive Bets conpent cretor in BDO. (Sorry for my bad England. England is not my first language.)
You nailed it buddy @@renexe
Option 1 was giving classes without grabs a FG break. And it better mean classes with no grabs on either spec.
Being a grabless melee user sucks now.
Omg he is so right that not all classes can be good at everything.
We will breed horses together 👬
Ye you lookin mighty breedable
Why breed horses when you can breed on your own?
You're absolutely right. The so-called PVP balance that PA has been doing lately is just a mess. They claim it's balanced PVP, but it's better to gradually adjust the strong and weak characters rather than making drastic changes with so many unnecessary restrictions. The feeling of fighting in Solara is completely different from fighting without restrictions outside. Every time you get used to one side, you may forget the feeling of the other, and getting one-shotted is always a possibility."
Hello I am from the Future where we have DR + Evasion changes. At 44:00 where we are talking about tanky classes getting turbo'd by ranged, our shield classes are now tanky with the latest patch. Good change! Ok back to grinding lower gyfin, buhbye
I appreciated the CAPS READING accuracy.
Love your content as always, when it comes to Large scale pvp (END game pvp or so they say) its often times more about a class choice rather than the skill needed to play your own class at large scale, and no one should be forced to do a certain role because of the class they like to play.
If you fight the TOP guilds on any region it all comes down to Valks/Zerkers/Staff/Shais/Rangers/FOTM class, the guild that has more will always have a huge benefit vs adversaries,
NWs and Sieges have become a game of whichever guild has more useful Ultimate's.
Yup. It sucks feeling like you can't participate in PvP just because you play a particular class. Meanwhile people with less skill and time in the game can play PvP way more efficiently just because of the class they choose
Regarding this, i have some opinion that may not apply to the game.
1. the idea to make ignore res vs resistance work as acc vs eva is great. and also, i think we can reconsider SA as +100 resistance. Let say we have +50 ignore floating resistance vs +70 resistance, it will have 20% chance to fail floating the target. If the target has SA, it will +170 res in total, so it will completely resist the floating as intended. but if the target only has +20 res, even with SA which is +120 res, the target still has 30% chance take floating CC with +50 ignore floating resistance.
2. about grab, i think it's okay to buff it, so easier to use but it has 5 as CC count (so can't be CC anymore after grab) , and according my 1st point, so the grab inherits +100 ignore resistance to counter SA
ahh.
Classes should have certain skills that are only active/usuable (like more healing/aoe) during certain situations like Nodewars . This helps them balance certain classes for certain needs without having them be overpowered to heck.
@@Nemorosumgo the other direction with the buffs. We do not need more damage in this game. We need more survivability. Peoples major complaints are you get CC’d and insta blown up. Or blown up while standing. Especially in group combat
The only way this is heard by PA is to ask a Korean player to translate it and share it in the PA official forums in Korea
Divios is doing this the correct way. Do not participate in any form of pvp to protest until the devs take notice of how little pvp is being done. This may help with changes. Another method is to not log on at all to protest. If player base drastically drops they have to make changes to bring people back. Just my two cents. Love the game but it’s going to be on the back burner for a while.
Not logging on seems like the biggest pipe dream. You can’t guarantee PA will make the correct changes even if the protest is successful.
Which won’t be the case bc of all the afk lifeskillers and players who don’t care about the changes. Not to mention that PA HAS made sweeping changes to the game in favor of new players, which were controversial. I don’t think this will go the way you want it to go.
As an archer I support giving succ ranger and archer 30 billion damage on every button.
Haha, oh god no, I don't want more people complaining at me. My Archer letterbox is already too full
The argument that global lab has not enough people to thoroughly test new changes especialy if its huge stuff like full on class balance changes is true, PA should have a dedicated PAID team of people to test these things before they put them out for testing server for public to see and that is the main reason why majority of content that we get is unbalanced or fucked up even after "testing" on global lab server. Because its not really testing, handfull of people just try the new stuff and thats it....
The most consistent thing I see about Shai discussion is that the only people who yell that the class is OP are the ones who never played her, and will never play her if you dare them (while they more often than not see no problem maining the ACTUAL OP classes).
Is the class poorly designed, with artificial usefullness in very specific scenarios, which only happen in very specific game modes, like .01% of your game time? Why, yes.
Do you see anyone championing for a good "give and take" rework? Nah, they just cry for more nerfs to an already unplayable in other 99.99% scenarios class because they can't be bothered to learn to deal with a class that has no defence or movement, because they can't be bothered to learn the matchup.
If anything, I'd rather like to see PA go the "Valkyrie" route with Shai and give a character with busted support abilities even more busted offensive and defensive moveset to boot. Just so unskilled whiners who already can't deal with shai in her current state could get a reality check with the only class they can reliably kill in PvP being taken away from them, and actually learn to play the game instead of complaining on forums until their own class is so busted that they can't realistically lose to anyone else.
I think the issue in BDO's PVP is because the same PVP stats have to work across all modes. Pearl Abyss is currently having to adjust one stat block to cover the three main modes; Open World, Arena/RBF and Node Wars
A good example of the other side is Guild Wars 2. Guild Wars 2 has 3 main modes; PVE, Battleground and World v World and each mode causes your skills to preform differently. Now the skills tend to have same role/purpose across the three modes, but some added effects and damage would be very much adjusted down the line.
Also as far as a set gear that you choose, yea make an entry level set for Node Wars and RBF that lets you get into PVP quickly. Yes Tuvala Timmy *can* pvp in Node Wars in T1, but a rental set might cover things like Elixirs and some other supplies for the fight. As far as RBF, I don't see why new players are forced to make a trail character of their main when they could just get the same gear as a rental to it.
I always thought this would be nice as well. just make the class slightly different depending on game mode/what you're doing.
As per the resist comments, FG's are critical to some classes to PVE Endgame...especially on classes like Succ Sage who have shit defense and need that FG to prevent instant death since you can't cancel out of any skills, once cast, you're stuck in the full animation. Sage's are shit w/ healing FYI, good call...Also, Succ Sage's damage is LOL w/o E+Reset (Why 95% of the top frag vids are him un-focused and E'd), he's a 1 min every 3 min class. Sage is shit in Focused combat...why he's trash in most PVE and Boss Rush, he wasn't originally designed for ranged combat...dropping w/ only 2 ranged skills. The entire kit was designed around melee/midrange combat which was completely nerfed w/o a proper re-visit. Class needs an overhaul, Reset+E needs to go, no one likes being a 3 min class....most of us want Mobile Sage, more skill based and well rounded. All Succ Sage has is large/nw....which PA is addressing everyone else to be good at. So why aren't we getting shit outside of Large then? Excuse was "He's bad at PVE and 1v1 b/c he's good at large." I 100% get Divios' comments...b/c now the one thing Succ Sage is good at, is getting dethroned, and with classes like Awa Drak, already been happening.
It's bad that even in the open world of Season Arsha, Rangers can still instantly obliterate FG while backpedalling faster than you can chase. Realistically, ranged classes should not be able to hit as hard as a melee from the safety of being 2 miles away.
As a pre-reboot era archer main, I agree with you. The whole playstyle revolves around maintaining distance and chipping people down, but now we barely need to move and we nuke folks. If PA raised our pvp dmg reduction % by 20-30% that'd be perfectly fine ngl. Though with that said our 330ap full glass builds should still hit hard to some degree since we go all in on offense and bring no utility to a fight like casters do
@@emperorpudding216 Yeah, so long as the damage is still reasonable. As is, no one should be getting 2-skilled through FG from so far away by a ranger with equivalent gear when even the melee classes who have to put themselves into the fray and risk getting obliterated themselves can't do the same.
Sadly, it seems that most game devs see archers as a glassy DPS without ever considering that distance and evasion (I-Frames and such, things that prevent you from being hit at all) are stronger forms of defense than big armor numbers. Which leaves you with classes that are harder to kill than the tanks by virtue of not getting hit and who deal more damage as well.
Dude, Succession ranger is not a 1v1 class. There's tons of classes that obliterate a Succ ranger in a 1v1 and even I know that being a newbie.
@@jingkir9273 Okay, New Player, sounds to me like you've uuhhh, you've literally never dealt with it and have zero clue as to what you're talking about. Come back after you've gotten 2 shot from outside render distance on the seasonal PvP server where no one should have any gear advangages on you. First shot instantly shreds Front Guard, second shot instantly shreds HP. That's the whole fight.
If you magically survive with a sliver of HP remaining, they will then preceed to backpeddle and a million miles per hour, and you'll probably die if you chase them. And god forbid if they happen to be standing up on some terrain and you just can't reach them. I don't think you fully comprehend how actually annoying Succession Rangers are to deal with when you don't outgear them.
One thing that has always felt weird, is that you can't block grabs. Make them not go through frontal blocks and grabs would be way less intimidating for a lot of classes. Would have to balance around that, but that ain't my problem to solve^^
You could combo that with big nuke classes (mechanically classes like awakening wizard and witch with their AoE around them) with mainly SA so they can get grabbed by your frontline and cancel the damage. Some fun rock paper scissor principle where every single class has a meaningful weakness that can be countered. For example, not sure if Lahns are ccable while in the air, but making awakening Corsair able to shoot them down with their gun would fit really well. Give some class the ability to block every instance of teleport (wizard, sorc) within an area to make the enemy ball vulnerable to damage. Just some unique mechanics for most of the classes that CAN be useful in certain niche situations.
The point of grabs is they are not blockable.
More niche mechanics is *NOT* how we get closer to a more balanced state. We don't need gimmicks for a fundamentally flawed system
@@Alex-gn6ii Depends on your perspective on what balanced is. Do you define balanced as classes being equal, so basically all of them doing the same thing? That's balancing like you have in games such as counterstrike or Valorant. Every player has access to everything, so it comes down to skill. For an MMO like BDO that approach to balancing removes the identity of classes, in the end all classes are the same. Protection and damage, wow. The other approach to balance is the rock paper scissor approach, where every class does have a weakness that can be exploited, forcing players to cooperate to cover these weaknesses. If every class has basically a hard counter mechanic, you can field a lot of metaclasses, if your opponent decides to counter specifically that strategy, you can't do shit.
So to get to your answer, firstly the system is not fundamentally flawed. If it actually was, the discussion would be a different one. Second, we do need gimmicks, BDO PvP has to be fun, it is an MMO. You want to identify with your character, that is the whole point of an RPG. If you had a class that specifically counters Drakania, you would hunt them the whole NW and would feel elated every time you catch one. This introduces the element of cat and mouse, where Drakania tries to wreak havoc while avoiding this one class. Then this Drakania, to be safe, gets a protector of some kind, that can counter the Drakania counter, in turn slowing the Drakania down.
Making all classes little Mary Sues does very little to make for a fun PvP experience.
I love this idea of having niche uses for classes, like corsair/archer/ranger getting to shoot lahn down or shai preventing teleports. I’d rather have an unbalanced game with strong identities for each class (bc most of the playerbase is casual and doesn’t actually care about balance) than a game with 26 class clones. If hard counters means that siege guilds are now asking for more corsairs because they know barcode has a team of rangers, the classes are successfully filling their niches, even if they seem a bit gimmicky.
Man these korean mmos don't get a break. Emergency after emergency. Only if they care about the game and not only profit.
Dude I literally started playing the game 2 weeks ago and I mostly want to PvP..
And funny/sad part is PA dont give a shit if he leaves :")
Remove mouse mouvement? but gathering :(
He was cookin until he got to the class changes, which just sound like one giant striker/sage buff LOL
I play shai in PvE so far and can't agree enough. Make the talent tree active support, the buffs are boring to play. There are so many support classes in other games where they can get inspired and their inspiration seemed to be a propher / warcryer from Lineage 2. Give buffs and chill. :D
Shai needs buffs lol
yo guardians do you ever feel stupid that WE HAD one healing skill (2nd rabam that heals like 400 points back then, they remove it because "its not what guardian should have") and then now you heals with shift - Q for fucking 10 seconds, vulnerable from attacks from NARNIA and then PA throw in drakania that HEALS IN PERCENTAGE when running around
45k hours is 5.14 years.
Over 8 years that equates to 15.4 hours a day, every day, leaving 8.6 hours to sleep, eat and interact with the world.
For a 37.5 hour work week with 4 weeks of PTO, this is the equivalent of working a job for 25 years.
He absolutely should quit the game, and it has nothing to the state of PvP.
you can afk in this game to fish and train horses so while it sounds like a tonne and likely still is, its not super unrealistic, I have 130 days played on my account, but 110 of that is likely afk time
Just got into the game guess I'm lucky I picked Awak Drak as my main for pvp at least. But idk how people heal so much the only move I have that full heals is my i-fram with max black rage
I would 1000% come back to bdo streams if divios did pve! He is soooo fking good at pvp that is be hooked on his pve
The Dev's best bet would be to ignore last weeks changes and these three option they're giving us and just add or remove things from classes that are under performing and or over performing just like Divios said work on the best performing and lower performing classes until you have all the classes in a better more balanced state, i also have to add that its time for Jae to step down and the position of executive producer handed to someone that is more socially talented who reaches out to the community to the top pvpers and ask's them what they think should be done what need's to be done then in return provide us with a roadmap maybe a voting poll that includes every region so we can get a brighter more better idea of the future then all of these random changes that no one asked for thrown in our faces that leave's the community unsure of the future it is very very harmful to the longevity of the game, Thank you for the video Blue and keeping us informed
Good luck on "*Balancing the PVP*" 😅😅
I'll just wait for what will happen in the future... so good luck!
"Oh sorry he is shouting" 😂😂😂
Ty for the video m8
i would of loved his takes of awk/succ Mae/Musa in the doc :/
What i think PA should do is make their balancing team do RBF because they obviously don't know what they are doing on some classes. All they need is to encounter 1 geared Drak in RBF and that class will be nerfed the next day, I have full TRI FG armors and that class is making me feel like i have 300DP.
The fact they're struggling this bad to understand what needs an immediate fix and what doesn't just shows they don't take even a minute out their day to play the game
Sometimes I put my mouse cursor over your mouse cursor and pretend we’re holding hands 🥺👉👈
When you realize you recognize the divios guy from watching the smite pro League those were fun times rooting
Did anyone consider the game experience of Shai...
or just consider other classes have Shai's buff??
Q block only fg and not sa fg.... Then non grab class can still cc them
BDO will again be just a "great looking mmo with good combat" if they do not add more group content, change monster zones to have more mechanics, get rid of their stupid "immersion" which blocks you to do anything properly, introduce new way of enhancing because this shit is least satisfying thing in whole universe (either you gamble or just buy). Nobody cares about PvP and it last reason people leave this game for.
Everything is a chance, nothing has value, you can just braindead yourself with grinding and buy shit. THE WORST PROGRESSION SYSTEM IN ALL OF THE GAMES.
All of the content gives you a chance to reward you, none of it is worth doing because you can lose hours and still getting nothing.
THE GAME IS BORING! Even with this top tier combat, the game is boring as fuck, and most of the players that got into the game in last year or two already left or will leave soon.
Its sad that the only way to earn money is play specific classes on specific spots and just jump around in circles, killing half of enemies because it drops trash loot faster that way.
PA has one of the most beautiful MMOs with best combat on market and its boring af. Pretty sad.
Yo blue really wanting your opinion on questing like daileys for good money I think if casual players could hop on for 2 hours a day to do a couple (well thought out) quests to make 300 mill or so per quest and for the really active players to jus have something to do while they can’t grind jus a thought tho
What would you be doing for those quests though? Running around to talk to NPCs? Everyone hates doing that. Lifeskilling? It’s already profitable, you don’t need the extra step of quests as an incentive. PVP? You already have the dailies in RBF that give caphras. Not sure what kind of questing you’re looking for.
Nah for real as someone who did cannons for too long,
They should have reworked that shit so you set it up and it shoots without you pressing anything so that you can actually play
Played Awak Mystic on release and never switched to another class. I am shit at the game but love the class!
Ikr. I played awa Ranger from the start and never change a main eversince. Even though we were left behind in pve/pvp, we just couldn't leave our main class cause we love it, but PA just don't give a fuck about it.
You aren’t shit you’re just playing the most abandoned class ever
Succesion Nova most effective gameplay is to go on Elephant... Divios said sit in Q block ... the Q-block that gets one shot by an archer... at capped NW.
Yeah, Nova is a fundamentally broken class.
Her CONCEPT is fantastic, with her Succession being a highly defensive tank that makes use of area control and summons and her Awakening being the polar opposite as a high-speed assassin with a hyperspeed button.
In reality, her Succession is too slow and clunky to PvE with and its primary form of defense -- a Forward Guard block -- gets annihilated by incoming damage in just a few seconds. Even worse, you can't build her full tank because she doesn't have enough support and crowd control to justify doing no damage. It's just worse in every way to a Valkyrie.
Meanwhile her Awakening is a fantastic PvE class -- absolutely top-tier -- that has basically no place in any sort of large-scale PvP because she cannot effectively build meter to use her hyperspeed in such a setting.
I really feel like Nova needs a complete re-work.
@@Josh-99 awak got reworked and now she actually can fill her accel mode very quick almost at every engage, maybe not good enough for uncapped but at capped with pa buffs+ shai buffs it is now a class that can effectively pre engange into the enemy backline since she wont collide with anyone in front, but awak drak exists... basically perma accel with heals so most awak novas mains are now using drakanias.
@@JustMMOs Well, I guess you proved my point: I used to main Nova, but Drak is just a better experience so I've been playing that instead, so I am not familiar with the changes.
The funny thing is that Scholar plays like how I feel Nova Succession should play, jump in face-first with crushing attacks that hit a wide area while having excellent protections.
@@Josh-99 smart of you and the right thing to do if you want to keep yourself sane. Sadly Im not as smart... mained succ nova since ive started playing BDO and after reaching 720gs my biggest upgrade would not be PEN Debos but rather just reroll another class, which is something il never do since for me there is no cooler class than Succ nova.
So all im doing is roleplay in BA until rework is done one day, gearing has been made meaningless.
@@JustMMOs There's nothing wrong with playing other classes. I think of BDO as a fighting game: you can have your main (for me it's Witch), but it's expected that you will pick up other characters for counter-matchups or when the meta shifts dramatically against you.
For me, I can't play support all the time, and it's nice to have access to a class that can dive in and really do some damage, so when I'm not needed on my Witch I play Drak and Sage.
Rotation off your main for a bit can really be a breath of fresh air. All of the classes play so differently from each other, and sometimes gearing up a new character is just want you need to help you relax, since you can fall back to lower-level zones that aren't as heavily contested and have a more chill grind.
Hell, I'm playing a Season Scholar right now. That's "Netflix and Grind" levels of calm right there. It's been a refreshing break from feeling like I need to constantly push silver for more taps on gear that's just going to blow up in my face.
So many other things need to be reworked or removed and also needed to be added more QOL, not only the pvp side. Idk what plans PA have but i hope they will do something about the overall state of the game.
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i have now 4 years w8ting and wanting to play tamer in a viable way in mw mass pvp but looks like its just a never come true dream!!
34:46 Imagine putting succ ninja in same fucking spot as succ zerker
Tryna understand how to max my gear just to go around T1's caps and do max dmg to still get destroyed by zerkers on T1's was not very funny.
I agree it needs to be simplified
also keep the ranked option in AoS open at all times, making it event based is just stupid. I don't understand why tf they do that.
Take away the assassin levels of damage on the tanks, then you can make them even more impossible to kill in small scale pvp. Nws/ Siege is such a small part of pvp and y'all trying to make these already hard to kill mfs immortal. You NW a few days a week for 2hrs. Siege is once a week for approx. 4hrs. That's such a small amount of time compared to the constant RBFs, AoS (even though console doesnt have it yet) you can do *every single day*. You cant possibly be in favor of giving tanks more sustain without taking away their damage and mobility in return.
Also not all assassins are created equal. Succession DK is arguably the worst assassin in the game. Lacks sustained mobility, lacks *any heals*, a full melee class with no grab, no vaccuum, or utilities such as ap buff, slows, eva shred, ect. Even sorc can at least give allies a little ap buff.
Full balance is impossible to achieve. However, not *wanting* full balance is where the issue arises in these discussions. Full balance would Imply that success in pvp relies on your skill alone and most meta slaves don't want to be faced with the reality that all they do is abuse the most broken shit. There should be full balance in the game to see who's *really* skilled in more than just running and grabbing people out of their protected CCs, spamming arrows from render distance, ect.
I like blue's take on shai... less buffbot more disruption play :)
BDO has PVP?
jay knows whats best!
Nooooo let the awk drakania spirit airlines class keep her movement, she’s too fun :D
Sad thing the this feedback will just get ignored by the devs although one player skilled or not does not speak for the entire playerbase but there is some good takeaways from this detailed feedback but PA just doesn't care
I can touch nova top to bottom, don't worry. I can also fix awakening. "I can fix her" lmao
I want that ppl that can openly say like Blue and Divios get the option to work with the Devs to balance more the classes as tester and got the option to invite special ppl to test with them the classes that play them good. so they can say broken, weak, fine......
And not some Ninja is not broken ppl that have a say in stuff like this that are blinded by there class vs other when they easy destroy mostly all classes in 1v1 flank....
I will not comply
Shai hulk grab wins tbh best idea I've seen in a looong time
I dont think removing mouse movement is/should be a hot take at all. As far as Im concerned mouse movement has no reason to exist at all in the game.
who actually even has their adventure log done? I thought we were all just lying to our gm's and missing 2 dp,1ap,300hp and whatever those chests in Loml give this whole time
Protected cc should never existed 😂
Nice Thanks
i’d be fine with capped gear i don’t care if it’s exploitable just get good
"TL;DR I Love the game, not quitting far from it. I'm addicted but jeez they are making it hard to want to PvP and they have no idea where they want to go with it."
Wow yeah sounds like he quit PvP and totally won't do the same thing he's always done every day.
Caps are so annoying in this game in PvP and PvE I’m freaking grinding for my gear. Arena of solare should be capped and T1 nodes (max T2) and THATS IT. The rest of PvP and nearly all of PvE should be completely uncapped (and yes I don’t have a ton of gear)
This all boils down to PA being lazy not wanting to carefully design and put resources to balance PVP content and make it more other than a side content.
The fact that Witch and Wizard were BROKEN on release in group PvP because of the same reasons Shai is now, but have been entirely dethroned by an evasive gremlin with a flying clothing hanger is wild to me. Shai is just entirely unbalanced and has shifted the ENTIRE game to revolve around their ridiculous buffs.
Just wanted to say, I entirely agree with the Shai needing a massive redesign and needing a more active support style. On the yelling at the player in video, Shais need buffs to move so that's why they buff at flags, sometimes they have to buff between spots if they are almost expired. Yelling at your shai like a buff-slave is a good way to make them quit, I know your frustration but the jobs shit and nobody wants to do it so maybe relax a tad for the few who are trying. That isn't to say never fault or improve shais but just that you should do so nicely since we know they're not getting any mvp's these days. I'm not asking for myself, I just don't want what few of our newer players to quit over an outburst like this cuz some guy thinks its okay. There are so few of us veteran supports players in the competitive scene right now.
Personally I prefer to be in the frontline but that is also a problem these days since as Divios and you said, only 2-3 shais and value yada yada. It does feel pretty abysmal to play in current design. Any shai who is sitting there buffing is a godsend because of how frustrating it is to play the class these days. I hate what it has become.
Trust me when I say that shai wasn’t getting anything buffed. I wasn’t the only one yelling at them and it wasn’t the only time they were found doing it
1:25:48 He's not quitting. Stop click baiting titles.
So in conclusion: It sounds like they have too many things to balance around and they are not focusing on one so it's all over the place.
I watched the whole video and i am proud to say I dont give a shit about PVP just don't touch my PVE stuff or nerf them
This is the third video I watched Blue thinks the first option is something to do with gaps. No where in the (translated) text in the first option gaps mentioned. Blue sees "tight" perceives as "gap". It is like an AI hallucinating...
Its a Korean translation so we can only interpret to the best of our ability
@@bluesquadronlive Respect Blue. Just feeling this was a little off.
Too bad PA only makes millions and can't afford to take the time to put out a proper english format of the patch notes so nobody gets confused
@@JoeBobTheTROLL true
Should be a nerf on every class across the board from a point of view where PA compares each class to others.
Then a buff patch and new skill(to some class that need it) much later to bring things a bit close.
A Skill change for ow pvp, aos pvp, gvg pvp, battleground pvp etc would be good honestly. It would be easier to balance things but be more work
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I find it humorous beyond measure, that people take a game so serious, that is basically a bunch of Victoria's Secret models dressed up in lingerie fighting with gigantic unrealistic swords. I mean I guess if your like 13 years old, maybe.
takes the cake 100% agreed
Well make thos changes only for pvp side ,cuse its bs that it can neft the effect side of pve
He makes no sense...if archer and ranger need major reworks for arena of solar, nor should they? They totally contradicts himself ...ehat is it major reworks or it doesn't matter cuz they shouldn't be good like Striker or berserker which everyone uses cuz they getting he most budds..period...im sick of watching these complainers who play the easiest classes..like Striker snd bessemer..when ur class gas constant super armies gra a and damage of coarse your gon a win torunamints...god..banyes
I feel like bdo pvp is in a bad spot. I love meaningful lasting progression but how am I supposed to get my friends to play a game and be like “after 5 years of playing you can catch up and pvp with my siege guild!” Also not being able to implement good systems because players will exploit really sucks.
You would encourage your friends to play capped node wars after season graduation, not siege. Even if they could hit 750+ gs they would still have an awful time in siege against drastically more experienced players.
The experience gap is real, gear doesn't matter. Once you get to our GS, we can read every skill you do by the physical animation of your character and we'll counter you every day of the week.
Your friends will go in there with 2-3 combos learned and know 1-2 skills to avoid.
They will get rolled.
Seems like Black Desert just needs to steer towards the tried and true Holy Trinity system of damage, healer and tank. This would aid the developers in making better design choices as there would be a clear goal on how the class should behave, its strength, weaknesses and tools. In its current state, the developers have nothing to go off of except the visual identity of the class and this makes it more difficult to make critical, gameplay altering design choices.
Black Desert's class design system worked well in the early years where there were significantly less classes and only one spec per class. This meant that classes and their skills could be well tailored to counter other classes like rock, paper, scissors. It is now impossible to stick to that design with the sheer amount of classes and specs in the game and if they continue down this road, we'll eventually see the homogenisation of all classes.
He said 48 cause archer snd shai only have 1 spec
Hearing this rant from someone who plays a class that 2 shots other classes and say that damage shouldn't be nerfed but everything else should is pretty funny.
Dont give tanks more healing. They will be unkiklavle in small scale and 1v1 never die
I guess he is ... donezo with BDO.
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Unironically he plays 2 classes that are insanely broken. One has untraceable blinks and the other never leaves SA. The furry fiend strikes again. Would love to see how much he cries if they nerf sage and striker.
Watching Divios appeal to PA is like watching based Americans appeal to the Government. He's right. And we're right.
Im just sick of grabs in general. Theres just so much jank associated with them, between desync and 1 comboing that they feel cheesy as fuck.
The whole cat and mouse feel of fights is annoying, its like youre jousting with an opponent bc youre too scared to stay too close to them.
Im saying this as a warrior main too. It feels cheap and janky.
My 10k-hour casual enjoyment of BDO has been based entirely on not taking it seriously as a real game, but rather as a screenshot generator.
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i had the greatest idea ngl, how about they just make super armor frontal guards a skill like the nodewar skills and give it to everyone, let the shield classes level it up so it can be significantly stronger then remove it from general play so everyone is subject to the same thing.
I haven't heard a single good explanation to why shouldn't everyone get a grab, when most classes already do. What's the issue? Musa having a grab is OP? Zerker says hello. Sorc having a grab is OP? Ninja says hello. So what's the issue here?
I agree with you. I don't mind giving everyone a grab, but some mobility would need to be adjusted for sure.
Because zerker doesn't have an SA short spammable dash. If musa had a grab, anyone who has any amount of mouse aim can just glide into you and grab you and there isn't much you can do about it because he's in SA movement thats extremely easy to control. Zerker movement, even on succession is in long bursts and in hard to control strings, and the only window where he can run up on you is in a short frame period (lava piercer) that you can otherwise use movement to avoid.
yet there are certain classes that can insta teleport beside/behind you and grab @@cereal9285
Because it doesn't fix any problems except possibly in 1v1 and very small-scale PvP. If all you are doing is duel-for-spot, not having a grab can feel unfair; I'm willing to admit that. But who uses a grab in any of the group-based PvP that really matters except the assassin classes that a flanking into backlines? Having a grab on a Succession Witch/Wizard doesn't do anything to help them at all, as an example.
@@cereal9285 so, like a Striker, Ninja, Kuno, Valk, Ranger and Warrior?
I think you should take a compendium of all the thoughts and convert to Korean and then send to PA, stop hateing on Drakania lol
You think succ ninja is OP? You kidding? They have one protected CC and it does zero damage-- smoke. You think that's strong in the meta?
yes we need a bam-bam grab for shai
6:40 This is a braindead, pisslow, wood V, headass take. You should be able to play anything you want and be at least moderately successful, which means every class should be viable for everything. They don't have to be *good* at everything, but they should at least be viable. Strengths and weaknesses are fine, but every class should at least be viable in the content that they're weak in.
Ninjas not busted though. Its a high risk, high reward class with a very high skill ceiling. You're not picking that class up and dominating without considerable time investment and when you do start to dominate, you worked for it.
The algorithm keeps suggesting this to me and its funny to know that this was basically an attention grab cause he for sure didnt quit pvping lmfao
Reading is really hard for you. Were you really a teacher?
He was a gym teacher iirc
@@groovy_BDO Oh okay.
@@groovy_BDO Biology actually. Definitely not English
True I wouldn't of read it, but I sure will listen to u read it to me 😂❤
how about we removed capped content excluding like t1 nw so people actually have incentive to grind again for gear
yeap i why i rolled back to shai
Divios back to Smite? 😂 .