This site is very similar to the one at Fukushima, radioactive swimming pools. They had to shut the site down because an upgrade went poorly and crippled the generating equipment.
I personally find it a lot harder to sleep at night next to a de facto nuclear waste dump situated on an earthquake fault line. The 3.5 million pounds of extremely toxic waste are stored at sea level adjacent to highly corrosive ocean water in super thin cans (5/8 inch thick as opposed to 10 inch thick canisters used in Europe!!) that are prone to cracking. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to those people like Donna Gilmore who are working tirelessly on OUR behalf, to keep us safe from this potential nightmare!!@@evandelgadillo
California built the plant. California enjoyed the power it produced. Let California figure out where to store it. They had local consent to build it, let local consent deal with its waste.
Very good idea, especially when our power grid can't even catch up with the electrical charging stations, excessive tax on petroleum corporations, rising energy prices due to inflation and influx on immigrants. Yeah, just keep limiting our sources of energy and increasing its costs.
This plant was built on an earthquake fault line. And now they buried 3.5 million pounds of extremely toxic waste at sea level in super thin cans (5/8 inch thick as opposed to 10 inch thick canisters used in Europe!!) that are prone to cracking. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to those people like Donna Gilmore who are working tirelessly on OUR behalf, to keep us safe from this potential nightmare!!
@@EvaMeier1 Issues is the canisters need to be moved. They are in concrete vaults that are over 3 feet thick. That said I doubt they will ever be moved. US is dead broke, and probably won't exist beyond 2032.
"our power grid can't even catch up with the electrical charging stations" Doesn't matter, the US imports all its nuclear fuel from Russia, and global supplies of Uranium Ore will be depleted by 2050. All these nuclear plants need to be decomm'd ASAP since the US is dead broke. At some point all of the plants will be abandoned due to lack of fuel & funds to maintain them. Those that aren't fully decommission have a huge risk.
Reminds me of Leslie Nielson in Naked Gun: "Everywhere I look something reminds me of her." Could have retrofitted the plant but instead we got gas generators.
Pointless US imports all of its nuclear fuel from Russia, & there is only enough Uranium in the ground to last until about 2050. All of the Worlds Nuclear plants will be have to decomm'd before than. France is going to shutdown all of its reactors by 2035 (if not sooner).
Huge mistake killing San Onofre. Cost a lot of good paying jobs and sent our electric bills through the roof. That lady complaining is the same type who lied about the sand glowing in front of the plant at night.
Yucca mountain. The US gov't spent about $10B on testing & construction. On the year it was suppose to start taking waste, Harry Reid (NV senator) had the entire project shutdown & abandoned, but NV got the $10B for NV Jobs.
Yeah, these people are geniuses. They build these plants for the future and when society has expanded, they decommission them and at the same time over load the current system with everything electric. They failed to appropriately modernize existing structures and find a way to minimize radiation or get rid of it responsibly. They cant even dispose a wind turbine.
Well modern…they were built in the 1960s. They have a 12 foot tall sea wall (looks more like 6 feet at certain parts) keeping the ocean out. They also discovered it sits on top of an active fault line. So, either a tsunami or major earthquake at the site would be interesting. Weird they never considered the site as a target for terrorism. Couldn’t they just move this incredibly toxic radioactive waste inland a few miles inland where it could be protected by the Marines?
@@JohnJStantonit’s by the ocean because nuclear plants require water for cooling. As for the waste, it’s disposed in the safest way possible and even if there is a major disaster, the “waste” that people worry about won’t be a problem, it would be an active reactor like the one in Japan. Nuclear waste has killed enough people in all of history to count on my hands… the worst orphan source contamination stories usually happen because of a radioactive medical device that was not properly disposed of. The real killer is fossil fuels which have been responsible for 8.6 million deaths in this last year alone. I think the answer for which is safer is pretty obvious.
Shouldn't a plan to deal with spent fuel have been approved before building a nuclear power plant? Decades later and they still don't have a plan. Who are these _"experts"?_
They could have refitted the plant to current standards and still produced clean energy and little waste. Instead of now having to pack an entire damn power plant in a nuclear waste site. SMH
All I know is that we still need nuclear power, maybe we should look into molten salt reactors And see if we can get the hydrogen fuel cell system made cheaper??
DAMNNN!! I was on this decommissioning program in 99-2000...! Still going on!? My favorite part of being part of this project was getting a letter in the mail a year after I left telling me to seek medical attention due to exposure of high levels of radiation recorded during one of my readings!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks Edison! A year later.....
Yucca Mountain was not just rejected because Nevadans fought it. Geologic studies proved the region was full of cracks, faults, and flowing ground water. The wastes have to be kept out of the environment for millions of years. Over centuries, the wastes would have leaked and sterilized the region.
The thin-wall canisters used to store Spent Nuclear Fuel (SNF) at San Onofre have a design life of only 40 years, and the SNF at San Onofre is an accident waiting to happen. If there is a radiation leak, people living near the site should be prepared to move away very quickly. Check your homeowners insurance as most exclude radiation damage. In my opinion, Ms. Gilmore was very smart to move away from the potential risk.
The fuel rods needed to be thin for maximum heat transfer and maximum steam and electricity production. The water needs to be tripled distilled so it isn't corrosive to the metal cases!!
Even if split open and scatter all over the place the high radiation levels have subsided enough there would not be a health hazard. Maybe if one ingest a pellet this could be dangerous. Really, there are beaches in Brazil that tourists and locals hang out on all the time that are more radioactive than if the partially used nuclear fuel here were scattered on the local CA beaches. Really, fear mongering over radioactive material needs to come to a stop.
@@DK-sc4gn That's not an answer to radiation levels, it's an estimate of the longest half-life of some isotopes. 90% of nuclear waste is slightly radioactive discarded PPE, equivalent to the radioactivity of a fancy granite countertop or a bunch of bananas
@@lukehahn4489 So what ur solution??? There is no plan for the highly radioactive waste generated from the fuel rods!!! Storing them on site is not a solution!!! Everyone doesn't want it in their back yard!!! We made this highly radioactive waste and we need a viable solution!!
Perhaps if Edison company actually took better care of those plants thay would still be producing power. They willingly ignored the people they paid to inspect and maintain the plant. Personally I do not believe they should get any government assistance whatsoever. Oh and yed I did work there. Well I tried to do my job. However...😮
Edison willingly went from producer to middle man. Middle men have less liabilities. They just broker electricity. Sell it to the consumers at a 300% mark up. They have no choice. Who else are they going to buy their electricity from?
I am always thumbing through these posts looking for someone I knew that worked there when I did. I personally am glad I dont live near it. I did a lot of decon work there and just did what Julie told me, and sometimes it was against the law.
How is it no one went to prison over the negligence that forced the plant to be shutdown prematurely and put the public at risk on at least 3 occasions when it released radioactive material after the botched "upgrade"?
Wish you would have taken pictures of the 12 foot tall sea wall that keeps the ocean out. Or details on the fault that runs under the site. But I will admit that they are doing a better than when it was stored in metal drums in a wooden warehouse :-) But the question I still have is what would supersonic torpedos or cruise missiles launched at the sea wall do? Interesting physics question above my abilities. Maybe that is a question for the owner of the land there, the US Navy, or the neighbors, the US Marines.
@@soliniv1411I just did. Simply put in a fast neutron reactors and burn up the waste. What is being talked about is really nuclear fuel that has 99% of the original energy still left in it. The canisters SO have enough energy when used in fast neutron reactors to power all of California for over 50 years. So please do some research yourself to confirm this fact.
When they calculate the cost of electricity from renewable power, they always forget to include still air, night, clouds, energy density and habitat loss. I love nature and nature needs a home.
I would love to see PG&E abandon Taxifornia and let it become the first state in the nation showing what happens when you listen to those that want communist government over regulation and uneducated eco-terrorist wanting solar and wind energy to save the planet. These entities want Taxifornia to live back in the dark ages I wish PG&E would give them what they wish.
Those domes are still perky after all these years.
My papa was a welder for General Dynamics. He worked on this in the late 50s. Yikes :)-~~
Those two domes always remind me of…
We use to call those two domes “The Mother”!
melons 🍈
Austin Powers👀
the sign you are getting close to Hong kong😂
Balloons
A friend of mine refers to them as Dolly Parton 😂
Beyond stupid that we allowed this plant to close.
We need more modern nuclear plants like this, not less.
No, not like this type. We need SMR's. Small Modular Reactors.
This site is very similar to the one at Fukushima, radioactive swimming pools. They had to shut the site down because an upgrade went poorly and crippled the generating equipment.
Nope, Fukushima is BWR this is PWR@@JohnJStanton
Exactly!
Some people have to have something to rally around and complain about - it's the only thing that keeps them alive.
Helps them sleep at night
I personally find it a lot harder to sleep at night next to a de facto nuclear waste dump situated on an earthquake fault line. The 3.5 million pounds of extremely toxic waste are stored at sea level adjacent to highly corrosive ocean water in super thin cans (5/8 inch thick as opposed to 10 inch thick canisters used in Europe!!) that are prone to cracking. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to those people like Donna Gilmore who are working tirelessly on OUR behalf, to keep us safe from this potential nightmare!!@@evandelgadillo
Evil always cries when it's exposed....go find a life Smith.
Complaining is saying your bag of chips aren't very nice. This activist is raising real concerns that could affect the livability of that area.
Complaining about activists keeps you alive? Stop complaining.
My physics professor called them The Dolly Partons😂
California built the plant. California enjoyed the power it produced. Let California figure out where to store it. They had local consent to build it, let local consent deal with its waste.
Very good idea, especially when our power grid can't even catch up with the electrical charging stations, excessive tax on petroleum corporations, rising energy prices due to inflation and influx on immigrants. Yeah, just keep limiting our sources of energy and increasing its costs.
It developed cracks and was falling apart. It reached the end of its service life.
This plant was built on an earthquake fault line. And now they buried 3.5 million pounds of extremely toxic waste at sea level in super thin cans (5/8 inch thick as opposed to 10 inch thick canisters used in Europe!!) that are prone to cracking. We owe a huge debt of gratitude to those people like Donna Gilmore who are working tirelessly on OUR behalf, to keep us safe from this potential nightmare!!
@@EvaMeier1 Donna Gilmore a.k.a Queen of the NIMBYs.
@@EvaMeier1 Issues is the canisters need to be moved. They are in concrete vaults that are over 3 feet thick. That said I doubt they will ever be moved. US is dead broke, and probably won't exist beyond 2032.
"our power grid can't even catch up with the electrical charging stations"
Doesn't matter, the US imports all its nuclear fuel from Russia, and global supplies of Uranium Ore will be depleted by 2050. All these nuclear plants need to be decomm'd ASAP since the US is dead broke. At some point all of the plants will be abandoned due to lack of fuel & funds to maintain them. Those that aren't fully decommission have a huge risk.
Reminds me of Leslie Nielson in Naked Gun: "Everywhere I look something reminds me of her."
Could have retrofitted the plant but instead we got gas generators.
That’s the first thing I thought of. Naked gun is the best!
Pointless US imports all of its nuclear fuel from Russia, & there is only enough Uranium in the ground to last until about 2050. All of the Worlds Nuclear plants will be have to decomm'd before than. France is going to shutdown all of its reactors by 2035 (if not sooner).
Nooooo.......Not the Dolly Parton monument ! 😳
No reason to take it off line. Environmentalists are the root cause of California's energy woes.
It was falling apart. Cracks were developing and it was becoming dangerous. It had to be decommissioned.
@@glidercoach Duh wot? Be quiet and listen, us grownups are having a conversation! That wasn't the cause or the reason for the decommissioning.
@@jaminova_1969 You mean to tell me the new steam generators were not experiencing radioactive leaks? News to me.
Huge mistake killing San Onofre. Cost a lot of good paying jobs and sent our electric bills through the roof. That lady complaining is the same type who lied about the sand glowing in front of the plant at night.
It’s interesting to me the Folks demanding everyone wear a mask several years ago where I live all looked like her and were her age.
You can't fix stupid.
Spent fuel needs to be reprocessed and reused……duh.
More EV'S
Less electricity 😅
What had they decided to do with the 'Spent Fuel' beginning on 'Day One' in 1968 ?
That was the problem - they never had a solution and proceeded anyway. They just kicked the can down the road.
The federal government told the electrical utilities that they would remove the SNF. They lied.
Yucca mountain. The US gov't spent about $10B on testing & construction. On the year it was suppose to start taking waste, Harry Reid (NV senator) had the entire project shutdown & abandoned, but NV got the $10B for NV Jobs.
Thanks@@guytech7310
Wrong, it was deemed unsuitable for geological reasons@@guytech7310
Yeah, these people are geniuses. They build these plants for the future and when society has expanded, they decommission them and at the same time over load the current system with everything electric. They failed to appropriately modernize existing structures and find a way to minimize radiation or get rid of it responsibly. They cant even dispose a wind turbine.
Well modern…they were built in the 1960s. They have a 12 foot tall sea wall (looks more like 6 feet at certain parts) keeping the ocean out. They also discovered it sits on top of an active fault line. So, either a tsunami or major earthquake at the site would be interesting. Weird they never considered the site as a target for terrorism. Couldn’t they just move this incredibly toxic radioactive waste inland a few miles inland where it could be protected by the Marines?
@@JohnJStantonit’s by the ocean because nuclear plants require water for cooling. As for the waste, it’s disposed in the safest way possible and even if there is a major disaster, the “waste” that people worry about won’t be a problem, it would be an active reactor like the one in Japan. Nuclear waste has killed enough people in all of history to count on my hands… the worst orphan source contamination stories usually happen because of a radioactive medical device that was not properly disposed of. The real killer is fossil fuels which have been responsible for 8.6 million deaths in this last year alone. I think the answer for which is safer is pretty obvious.
Unless every person agrees, it’s not consent.
Just because you're an activist and you talk about it does it mean you're a professional and actually know what you're talking
Shouldn't a plan to deal with spent fuel have been approved before building a nuclear power plant?
Decades later and they still don't have a plan.
Who are these _"experts"?_
Absolutely. Horribly irresponsible to have proceeded with NO plan for how to deal with the extremely radioactive, super hot waste.
The people with all of the “concerns” need to educate themselves. Then they won’t be concerned.
They could have refitted the plant to current standards and still produced clean energy and little waste. Instead of now having to pack an entire damn power plant in a nuclear waste site. SMH
Big mistake California, big mistake.
we are wasting the energy from nuclear "waste". nuclear "waste" is hot, that can be used.
All I know is that we still need nuclear power, maybe we should look into molten salt reactors
And see if we can get the hydrogen fuel cell system made cheaper??
That surfer at the end of the video missed his chance to scream out, "FHRITP"!
😂😂😂😂
DAMNNN!!
I was on this decommissioning program in 99-2000...!
Still going on!?
My favorite part of being part of this project was getting a letter in the mail a year after I left telling me to seek medical attention due to exposure of high levels of radiation recorded during one of my readings!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks Edison!
A year later.....
99-2000 was for Unit 1. U2 and 3 started in 2020.
@@monsterpig3270 Thats a trip!
I thought it was complete years ago!
I'm sure the lady activist has many degrees in Nuclear fusion.....NOT! Just another person who thinks they know everything.
I wonder what seismic rating those canisters have. After all the plant is right on the San Adreas fault line.
@4:12 The way he phrased Nevada's opposition to Yucca Mt. almost sounds like we're snubbing dinner with the King.
Contract SpaceX to relocate the material to the Sun.
And if there is a launch failure, radiation all over the place!!! This idea was discussed in the 1960s!!
@@DK-sc4gnTechnology has come a long way since the 60s. Even so, I doubt they would ever get regulatory approval to do it.
Well, so much for the notion of "clean energy"
Lies.
Yucca Mountain was not just rejected because Nevadans fought it. Geologic studies proved the region was full of cracks, faults, and flowing ground water. The wastes have to be kept out of the environment for millions of years. Over centuries, the wastes would have leaked and sterilized the region.
Correct!
So the Federal government leaves it at San Onofre close to the Pacific Ocean to leak annd sterilize LA?
California needs more nuclear power.
The thin-wall canisters used to store Spent Nuclear Fuel (SNF) at San Onofre have a design life of only 40 years, and the SNF at San Onofre is an accident waiting to happen. If there is a radiation leak, people living near the site should be prepared to move away very quickly. Check your homeowners insurance as most exclude radiation damage. In my opinion, Ms. Gilmore was very smart to move away from the potential risk.
The fuel rods needed to be thin for maximum heat transfer and maximum steam and electricity production. The water needs to be tripled distilled so it isn't corrosive to the metal cases!!
Even if split open and scatter all over the place the high radiation levels have subsided enough there would not be a health hazard. Maybe if one ingest a pellet this could be dangerous. Really, there are beaches in Brazil that tourists and locals hang out on all the time that are more radioactive than if the partially used nuclear fuel here were scattered on the local CA beaches. Really, fear mongering over radioactive material needs to come to a stop.
@@stanleytolle416 u better do more research on the science of radioactive elements!!!
Behold, the great pyramids
What's the radiation levels
Not stable for 100,000+ years.
@@DK-sc4gn That's not an answer to radiation levels, it's an estimate of the longest half-life of some isotopes. 90% of nuclear waste is slightly radioactive discarded PPE, equivalent to the radioactivity of a fancy granite countertop or a bunch of bananas
@@lukehahn4489 So what ur solution??? There is no plan for the highly radioactive waste generated from the fuel rods!!! Storing them on site is not a solution!!! Everyone doesn't want it in their back yard!!! We made this highly radioactive waste and we need a viable solution!!
Perhaps if Edison company actually took better care of those plants thay would still be producing power. They willingly ignored the people they paid to inspect and maintain the plant.
Personally I do not believe they should get any government assistance whatsoever. Oh and yed I did work there. Well I tried to do my job. However...😮
Edison willingly went from producer to middle man. Middle men have less liabilities. They just broker electricity. Sell it to the consumers at a 300% mark up. They have no choice. Who else are they going to buy their electricity from?
Why can’t they just leave it where it is?
What a cluster F good luck surfing there 😢😮
Got milk
Why? Because milk has iodine?
@truthseek3017 only people who's driver through there would understand.
I am always thumbing through these posts looking for someone I knew that worked there when I did. I personally am glad I dont live near it. I did a lot of decon work there and just did what Julie told me, and sometimes it was against the law.
I say turn the plant on.
I second that motion!
Nice going California, have fun being powered by rainbows and unicorn farts.
RIP model 120
just keep it there and pay san onofre duh
My back yard? Sure bring it on over
Just need 20 million up front unmarked bills.
Ship it to Mexico.
there will be no one left there to complain about it soon enough
How is it no one went to prison over the negligence that forced the plant to be shutdown prematurely and put the public at risk on at least 3 occasions when it released radioactive material after the botched "upgrade"?
Everywhere I look something reminds me of her...
Lol paid advertising....let's see what's coming next this is just a pre consultation 😮
Exactly. "This guy who gets paid to say it's not a problem, says it doesn't pose a risk."
So there you have it.
Wish you would have taken pictures of the 12 foot tall sea wall that keeps the ocean out. Or details on the fault that runs under the site. But I will admit that they are doing a better than when it was stored in metal drums in a wooden warehouse :-) But the question I still have is what would supersonic torpedos or cruise missiles launched at the sea wall do? Interesting physics question above my abilities. Maybe that is a question for the owner of the land there, the US Navy, or the neighbors, the US Marines.
WTF???
Everywhere I look, something reminds me of her…
Mi pregunta es..que pasaria sí rusia ataca y destruye san onofre??? Llegaria a tijuana mexico la radiación??😊😊😊
Just take it all to the giant underground place in Nevada...pay them already since that's all they care about in that state
commifornians used the nuclear material and enjoyed its electricity - let them deal with it
Donna Gilmore is the definition of a NIMBY and Karen
Damned planet
W NUCLEAR ENERGY!!!
When they calculate the cost of electricity from nuclear power, they always forget to include the long-term costs such as spent nuclear fuel storage
Where are all those pro nuclear people to provide solutions? 😂
You can bury it underground.
Exactly, and the environmental and financial cost of mining the raw material, the huge amount of building material, and on and on.
@@soliniv1411I just did. Simply put in a fast neutron reactors and burn up the waste. What is being talked about is really nuclear fuel that has 99% of the original energy still left in it. The canisters SO have enough energy when used in fast neutron reactors to power all of California for over 50 years. So please do some research yourself to confirm this fact.
When they calculate the cost of electricity from renewable power, they always forget to include still air, night, clouds, energy density and habitat loss. I love nature and nature needs a home.
Send it to the moon
I would love to see PG&E abandon Taxifornia and let it become the first state in the nation showing what happens when you listen to those that want communist government over regulation and uneducated eco-terrorist wanting solar and wind energy to save the planet. These entities want Taxifornia to live back in the dark ages I wish PG&E would give them what they wish.
One Elon Musk's fancy new rockets would boost it to the sun.
Hulk SMASH!
So theres no known Solution? unless you want radio active material on a unknown location.
😂😂😂
Send to space
An earthquake
For the right price Mar-A-Logo would take it.
Still living rent free in your head I see 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
TDS much?
TDS Dawg. It’s Chinese bought Brandon’s North American Union-to-be now.
👍👍
You are talking about your bought and paid for by China puppet, Biden!