Virtue's Last Reward - Hidden in Plain Sight
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2019
- Volume 2 in the Zero Escape trilogy, Virtue's Last Reward, presents one of the most memorable video game narratives and a fan favorite. But why is that? Join me as we dive into how Virtue's Last Reward buries secrets in plain sight that would eventually become unraveled through the player's progression.
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Working on this with you was an absolute pleasure. Thanks for bringing me on board!
Quality work as always!
Loved your Patrick Warburton / Kronk impression! :)
I think it shows how powerful VLR's story is when it can be as _insanely jank_ as it is, and _still_ be adored.
@Life is Pain Well shit, I'm spoiled. Probably should've pressed play on the video and read the spoiler warning before scrolling through the comments 😅
@trollpolice101 at least you didnt spoil who K is which i feel is the biggest spoiler
@trollpolice101you can still edit your comment
@trollpolice101 Haha, don't stress about it. Spoilers incoming for VLR and ZTD.
I wouldn't say you ruined my experience at all. At that point, I'd only got Clover's end. Reading your comment then, I thought I'd been spoiled. But there was way more I had to find out. You were just vague enough that nothing major was spoiled except for Sigma being Zero.
I didn't know how or why Sigma was Zero, or his appearance. Or K's identity. Or Tenmyouji's + the old woman's identity. Or what Luna was. The bombs being a plot point, and the passwords being for them. That we're on the Moon. Dio's purpose and links to an organisation.
For what it's worth, I agree with you on what you were originally saying. I didn't think the pacing of puzzles was as good as 999 - I picked these games up for the puzzles, but I found myself getting annoyed and wanting to ditch them for more story. Some of the puzzles were annoying in that 'try the same routine over and over to get a right solution' way. The algorithmic or 'rubik's cube' type puzzles aren't my jam. Still, the reveals made it worth it (even if there's some contradictory logic there).
ZTD's Zero reveal is a bit less satisfying, but I actually really like that too. The puzzles weren't paced there well either, though, and they generally felt way weaker.
Wasn't a fan of the pod room and the whole alien technology, and might just be me being unreasonable, but Sigma and Diana having Phi makes the interactions in VLR even more uncomfortable. With how the writer loves R34 and stuff, it's a bit.... ehhh. And how Diana was drunk and how Sigma didn't want it at first either? Bit uncomfortable. It was surprising and a great reveal first time round, but when I thought about it, I got a bit grossed out.
Anyway, I didn't hate ZTD like I was expecting. I really liked it. Weakest of the trilogy, still enjoyable. And out of the newbies, I really liked Diana and really loved/hated Eric for being such a dick.
Oh my god, that Luna joke at 4:37 had me laughing way harder than it should have.
Pain.
"If it looks like a person, acts like a person, and talks like a person..."
This video doesn't deliver just how absolutely MIND BLOWING these revelations are, and others not shown here. You get *chills* from this game constantly once the plot truly starts rolling.
Which is not this video's bad tbh. The game is just so damn good!
I played the nonary games edition and when didnt heard sigma's voice after hearing junpei's I was like: huh, maybe they wanted to make a more personal story?
Boy I was wrong 😂 that plot twist blew my goddamn mind
The Sigma voice thing didn't make an impact on my experience because I played the Steam version where you had to fiddle with some settings to get the audio to work. I only noticed it was a big issue when I started VLR, so I didn't know any better. It certainly does feel a lot more personal with you voicing Sigma's thoughts whilst hearing the rest of the cast speak
I honestly never picked up that sigma was old, the only way I was clued in on how he was zero was that he had mechanical arms and the holograph'd zero had those too
@@dnidaz2553 holographed zero had a mechanical _eye_
Yeah, the lack of voice actor for Sigma is not as big of a giveaway as the video makes it out to be. I just assumed they wanted you to see Sigma as a self insert in some way
Playing through it the first time, I was kind of angry and confused why they didn't even make a model for sigma to show up in any of the cutscenes where you see everyone standing together
Also, as soon as Alice picked betray, I went back, picked betray, and went down that path first
If you look very closely through the pixels of the monitor when Phi is pulling up cam footage during the Luna route, you can see that Sigma (as K is dragging him through the chromatic door) has gray hair
25:31 i personally i disagree with this statement.
as someone who has played tons of VNs, unvoiced protagonist is very common even with the fact that the previous game has the protagonist voiced. i actually played the original 999 years ago on my ds and replyed the 999 (voiced version) when they released nonary games on steam, and its actually my first time of playing VLR. my point is that junpei being voiced while sigma are not doesnt actually raise a suspicions AT ALL, at least in my case. and frankly its great that it doesnt because the twist REALLY blew my mind just like the first time i played 999.
i always thought sigma being unvoiced at first is just a a developer choice, having a unvoiced protagonist helps immerse the player into the character. and frankly it works, i felt a sense of connection more to sigma than to junpei in 999. in both games, i played with japanese VAs, and after hearing junpei voice, you can guess what his base personality is like, but by having sigma unvoiced, his personally is something more like based of your choice which fits well with the concept of game where you either pick ally (be good) or betray (be bad). to think he used this common VN trope into a major plot twist, uchikoshi is something else. that man is genius
The primary reason I noted that example is because I had a group of three friends play through the Nonary Games version of 999 and then transition into VLR right after. Each of them commented pretty quickly on the lack of a voice actor for Sigma and how they found it strange. I definitely had to wrestle them out of any conclusions on that one lol.
I also think that Sigma being unvoiced was a developer choice, and a strong one at that. Even with Junpei, even though I like the voice actor and there are some incredibly strong deliveries, I think the lack of a voice in the DS version allows for the player to feel more connected to him.
I agree completely, but I did play 999 first on DS, and then VLR on 3DS, so I suppose nowadays with the Zero Escape game bundle or whatever it could feel different to different people.
yeah i questioned why sigma wasn't voiced but didn't expect it at all to actually be something of importance
As someone who played the steam version first. I just sorta shrugged it off, thinking that maybe the creators wanted to make you really get into the protag role by making them unvoiced… I only started drawing suspicion in the VERY late game.
VLR is a 10/10 for me, maybe that's why ZTD was so unsatisfactory to me, because I went there looking for VLR 2 instead of Zero Escape 3...
Btw I found your channel a couple of days ago thanks to your xenoblade 2 music video and I'm so happy I found you, your channel is full of great quality content about things I like, you deserve way more subs than you currently have.
I went into it expecting Zero Escape 3, and instead got 2/3rds trash and 1/3rd Actually Uchikoshi.
Seriously, why the fuck wouldn't they just let the man write the whole thing himself?
I always liked the irony of the fact that Sigma never does the first thing Junpei did in 999....look himself in the mirror.
There's also the unresolved story revolving around Kyle. In the full ending it's revealed that Kyle is the wild card in the mix capable of shifting to anywhere in the timeline, so the question is to when did he go?
it was an extra scene that was merely a 4th wall break. Not an actual plot line.
Spoilers for the 999 trilogy and AI Somnium:
It's implied throughout the multiple Zero escape (and even further backed up with AI Somnium files if it's connected to the 999 universe) games that Kyle is essentially the one actually making all the decisions of all character we as players control (and that the characters justify their choices to themselves, al be it often confused about it). That's why in Zero time dilemma they bring up the Alien hand syndrome. It's not really Diana and Carlos (and possibly Q? IDK about this one) making the decision but Kyle.
If the 999 universe is at all connected to the AI somnium universe (vague connections to 999 but it's probably not connected) then it's also implied that the Kyle is "the player", aka you, an entity who is refereed to as "a Frayer, someone who can transcend the logic of causality (... within the world of these games)". It is also implied (or outright stated) that some characters are aware/deeply believe (and is proven to be correct) that they live in a simulated world. That we, as a frayer, are "an intelligence of a higher order" (to draw back to the termite example in the hologram) that created the worlds of 999 and AI somnium and can truly appreciate it's beauty.
PS: In the Frayer ending, notice how Tokiko is talking to the player and refers to Ryuki as a 3rd non-participant even though he(us) was the one who walked up to Tokiko.
PSS: Frayer is clearly wordplay for Player.
@@zugetzuzu Kotaro Uchikoshi already confirmed in an interview that scene with Kyle a 4th wall break. The “?” in Kyle’s body in that scene was the player while Kyle himself had 0 involvement with the Nevada Test Site death game.
@zugetzuzu They basically tried to pull Ever17 off, but as ZTD didn't get enough funds there was no place for a proper explanation, lol. I think that initially they planned the game as a part of the infinity series of visual novels, as the writers are the same, but those studios had development problems.
I think the 2D illustrations look way nicer than the 3D models. I still consider 999 to be the best game in the series because it has the least nonsense.
Yeah the 3D is not gorgeous for sure. But the characters are pretty well designed imo.
i agree. 999 is my favorite (with vlr being a VERY close second) and i think the 2D illustrations are a lot more pleasing to look at. tenmyouji just looks rly ugly in his 3D model. idk how to explain it he just does
The reason why the VLR's games in 3d is because the dev thought 3ds only support game with 3d model, they initally plan to make it 2d and that's why the 3d looks rushed
but the nonsense is what makes VLR so good. just utter insanity
999 is more successful imo because it works as a self-contained story and it’s much more of a grounded narrative with lower and more personal stakes. VLR suffers a bit from being a midquel, it needs 999 to serve as set up and it ends essentially on a to be continued, which would’ve been fine if ZTD hadn’t been kinda ass and undermined what VLR set up. The stakes in VLR are much grander, but that also makes them a lot more impersonal and therefore not as emotionally resonant. “Save the world” being the driving force in a story is always a hard sell as audiences find it hard to get emotionally invested in such a large scale concept as the whole entire fictional world so they likely won’t care as much as the smaller stakes of “save this character that you’ve spent an entire game with”. VLR does it decently well though as we get to experience the aftermath of the world’s destruction so first-hand so we get to see what’s at stake but it’s nonetheless not as emotionally resonant as 999 just by the nature of the two stories.
Virtue's Last Reward is definitely my favorite game in the amazing Zero Escape trilogy. I absolutely loved the sense of mystery and danger, the relationships, alliances and conflicts between the characters, and all the clever twists, reveals and surprises the game kept coming up with. And Luna - her ending was the emotional high point of the whole game IMO.
I recently replayed VLR with a friend and my appreciation for it grew a lot. It's incredible to see how it takes 999's material and kicks it up a notch regarding character significance and relationships with the AB system. Luna's ending is a heartbreaker for sure. She's such a sweetheart and probably my favorite newcomer.
I wish I could feel the same way. I love so much of the game, but I got caught in the 3DS save glitch on 3 separate playthroughs back to back to back, my first time getting through and had to reset every time. That hurts when you're 30 hours into a visual novel, and then about 15 hours in the next 2 times. My 3DS battery was ruined after that cause I refused to turn my system off on my 4th attempted playthrough where I was too scared to save, but I was sadly really soured by that point from sheer frustration. I think enough time has passed that maybe I'll be able to give it another go, though. I really want a chance to experience this game without the frustration of having to go through the first half of the game 4 times in a row. Clearly I loved the game though, since I didn't give up after all of that, lol
Agree too. ZTD was alright but it had to come up with a lot of convoluted story lines to tie up all the loose ends left by the previous two games
Dude, you can't just play blue bird lamentation when talking about Tenmyouji and Akane and not expect me to cry. That is my favorite instrument piece of all time. It may be morbid, but I already told my best friend he has to play it at my funeral. I listen to it as often as possible without ruining the emotional impact. Sometimes I make myself go months without listening to it just so it'll hit me like the first time I hear it all over again. Such a good piece of music, an actual masterwork of a song ❤
One of my favorite parts of this game is the exemplification of the idea that a Schrodinger's box can be anything. It completely recontextualizes the first game for me, especially the safe ending. If you want to read my elaborate rant on it, just ask and I'll put it in the replies. But the main idea of the rant is that 999 takes place inside the box.
Yeah I thought of this concept when Akane is both alive and dead before being saved in 999
The most gut wrenching part of vlr is that everytime line results in the participants living the last of their lives in rhizome-9.
for some reason, the second i saw tenmyouji and the old woman, i had instantly guessed that they were junpei and akane. i don’t know what it was that made me guess. maybe it was the way tenmyouji reacted to finding the old woman dead or the fact that tenmyouji just sounds like a last name.. or maybe the fact that the old woman just kinda looks like akane? but something just told me that it was them. i did second guess myself at first because of the fact that clover and alice were still young, but once i discovered the concept of cold sleep in the game world, i just knew it. am i the only one? did anyone else instantly guess that they were junpei and akane? i kind of wish i hadn’t guessed it so that the moment where tenmyouji reveals the photo of akane could have been more of an “omg” moment ya kno
I had too, turning the reveal of the photo into a confirmation to me
Was obvious the old woman was Akane, but I figured Tenmyouji was Santa.
No, you guys are espers... You all visited the different time lines.
This was fantastic, I miss the zero escape series so much
I do as well and thank you!
On the subject of Kyle being used as a spare to secure the success of the project, you realize he's completely useless in that regard. Even if Kyle had continued Sigma's research and set up the project, Sigma dying early would've caused a paradox or at the least a very different future. Even assuming young Sigma and Kyle could actually switch consciousness, Kyle's lack of experience and pre-existent knowledge would almost certainly lead to him failing his mission in the past.
I laughed at instance where Clover said she won't sell herself but when we went into ambindex room she did 180.
On the topic of Alice's and Junpei's contradictory votes, I think it's implied that they jump to a timeline where they voted opposite of what Sigma votes.
In 999 and especially VLR, what scared me the most was finding out what the truth was. Always scared that each time you entered a room, even a previously discovered one, would bring you something or someone to be afraid of.
The first 2.5 games of these series have the most compelling writing I’ve ever seen in any video game
Well, just binged this right after watching your 999 video again. Fantastic work on both, and here's hoping for an equally good one on ZTD in the future.
Thanks so much! My friend and I are currently working through the series and just reached ZTD, so I'm taking notes.
The most mindblowing twist for me was for sure the reveal of the real. Sigma, even though, in hindsight, you could have figured it out early on, but I didn't, which is why it had a huge impact on me.
Also, even though Junpei's and Akane's story, especially the "reunion" in the Q-room, were extremly sad, the most heartbreaking thing overall for me was the talk with Luna in the garden. Even betraying her for the bad endings felt absolutely terrible, as she's just such a pure and good-hearted soul, that you just constantly want to protect her... and then you find out, what she really is and you just can't do anything, but to listen to a crumbling robot hugging you, as she listens to her little music box, crying in fear of dying and just wanting to be alive... that is one of the saddest things I've ever witnessed and it really broke my heart..
Even sadder if you realize that Sigma is her own father
Another mystery that was hidden in plain sight from the beginning is Sigma and Phi's relationship. Spoiler for Zero Time Dilemma.
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Sigma is the Greek letter used to denote a group of ratio known as "Metallic ratios".
Phi is the Greek letter used to denote the first order (and the most well known) of the ratios known as the "Golden Ratio".
This is actually a hint that Phi is actually Sigma's daughter.
Huh, I had no idea that the Greek letters for names stood for that relationship. That's pretty rad, though!
@@KayJulers Yeah, I didn't notice that until I randomly viewed a math related video that talks about Metallic ratios.
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As someone working on a zero escape video on my own, I am glad you made this video to go into depth of the games, you really helped understand some key points and you offer an amazing summary and analysis on your opinion!! I can't wait for your video on zero time dilemma.
I've been playing Zero Escape once a week with my friends for almost an year because I wanted more people to know about this amazing saga. We are almost at the end of VLR and your video is killing me. We always quote way too much The Emperor's New Groove: we started with the first lever we encountered (WROOOOONG LEVEEEER) and from that moment there is at least a "by all accounts it doesn't make sense" every 3-4 episodes. Hearing the same jokes from you is making this video even better.
Thanks for doing that
One other huge spoiler that's just there the whole time is on the 3ds version the bottom screen has a weird green tint like you're looking through a computer screen. Well, you are, your right eye isn't real
I just-
I just keeping finding more things about this series, god, I love it.
I've got another fun detail for ya.
Remember that "Memo" section you could write notes to yourself in?
If you leave that stuff written there while you play & come back
to it after you've jumped to different timelines several times,
the text there will actually become _broken and faded!_
After all, you can't remember _everything_ when you jump,
so your memories will become more fragmented and lost
when done repeatedly (at least early on when you're not used to it).
I just came across your 999 Retrospective and was so ecstatic that you just uploaded a Virtues Last Reward one today
That's some good timing if I've ever seen it, and I'm glad you enjoyed!
Bravo! Ah this was so refreshing to watch and catch back up, and I actually never realised the focus on age in the first room! It's the room you go to the most! Seriously awesome to see another perspective on Sigma's twist.
I know every character could have had at least a 30 minute video talking about them but I gotta admit I was waiting for a record scratch and a 'who the hell is phi???' Seriously the "death is not the end" bomb fail scene probably got me just as bad as Luna's end if only because it was such a rare moment of letting her guard down
There was an ova that released on a dedicated website for vlr (which is now dead, but people unashamedly uploaded it to UA-cam like old newgrounds animations) it does it's job like the pokemon mystery dungeon ova to sell the people on the concept of the game. It does a good job covering the first hour of the game in a non spoilerly way, if a little stiff due to exposition dumping in less than ten minutes.
Now the ova hints that Sigma and Phi went through the chromatic door with Luna (they skip over going through the door to the lounge and go straight into the ambidex game after clover wakes up.) In the ova they do show the dead old woman in the ambidex room.
I saw the ova before playing both 999 and vlr. After 999 I went straight into vlr, so I went through the chromatic door with Alice (Naked Egyptian priestess???) And was insanely confused as to where the dead old woman went when she didn't show up.
i'm so glad videos like yours on zero escape exist
it reminded me a lot of moments that i loved as i played and also was just plain fun to see other people's thoughts on the games so in depth! i'm looking forwards to your video on ZTD, if you ever make it! this was really cool, this video and the one you did on 999
I love how much "plain sight" sums up this game.
K is actually short for Kronk
I just finished VLR and I went to go watch this video. My opinions of the game was I preferred 999 a bit more but I watched this video. Main reason I prefer 999 is because I have a hard time connecting to Sigma as the protagonist as I did with Junpei. I don’t know why though, but I still think the game is AMAZING. I enjoyed it a lot! I was stunned by the twists even though it was at 1 am when I finished it. I played the 3DS version but I knew the game breaking glitch. I only saved in the A and B warehouses because of that reason. I played 999 on my DS because my friend gave me a copy. I’m going to get ZTD after March.
"We might be in the history god abandoned" is one of the hardest lines i have and probably will ever hear
I just finished VLR, so here I am watching this video; I love to hear your ideas and opinions as I collect my own thought; it might be a while before I play ZTD, I sort of burned out, but I hope to get to it by the end of the year
The one thing I remember most about my first playthrough of this is holding onto the name Zero The Third - even as all the characters call him Zero Junior, I made sure to remind myself that there was a Zero the Second as well. And wouldn't you know, that ended up mattering. This is my favorite game in the series, even though I do think 999 is a tighter narrative.
Can't wait for part 3 on ZTD if it's in the works! Both this and your 999 video encapsulate what I love about the series, all the crazy twists and turns to amazing payoffs that cover every single detail dropped
Yep, I plan to cover ZTD and do a character study at some point. I'm glad you enjoyed the videos! Revisiting these games and working through these videos has really made me appreciate how interconnected all of these twists are even more.
@@KayJulers Still waiting. :D Not to be pushy but...ya know...
Your experience with Zero Escape Series is closely related to mine. As I was searching for quality content about Virtue Last Reward I got lucky enough to find you. You did an awsome job. U Got a new sub. Thank you
I'm glad to hear you were able to find the channel and enjoyed! Thank you!
I'm still at 1:12 but gosh I have to say that the opening of this video was AMAZING. Well done!
ZTD is amazing. I want to say its just as good as 999, but I think the ending is sequel baiting a bit too hard and sets up a ton of mind blowing things that just don't come to be. Otherwise, it hits everything that 999 did. Great story, mind blowing twists, excellent music, excellent mood, etc.
Do you think Tenmyouji changes his vote because he also got info through the Field?
14:48 Akane's wearing a ring similar to the engagement ring Junpei gets for her in ZTD. That's a neat detail.
K saying Kronk quotes is something I didn't know I needed.
I agree that Radical-6 is pretty horrifying. The way it fucks with your perception of the world and then makes you kill yourself is extremely dark. Its very disturbing for both victims and others around them. 22:37 I mean, the scene speaks for itself! But the reporter killing herself on camera is what really hammered it home on how awful this future really was.
I'm still holding out hope you'll do a video for Zero time dilemma, technically speaking if you'd seen positives in that, but despite there not being a video for it the general outlook of it is shared
God blue birds lamentation brings me to tears every single time I hear it
Creating The Morphogenetic field as a power that the player develops by playing the game and learning about the different fates to reroute destiny is still to day day EPIC.
This game is such a special game to me, i'll never forget the first time i played it. The plot twists are just mind blowing.
999 Is great, VLR is even better, ZTD is.....a game
Hey! I just found your channel recently and I’m loving it! You seem really interested in what you’re talking about and it’s really interesting.
one thing i’m kind of confused about is luna in the clover ending. in luna’s ending, we learn that she is a gaulem and that when she was “murdered” by clover, she was actually alive and fully conscious but shut herself down to appear to be “dead.” however, in the clover ending we see luna, on the ground, presumably unconscious and covered in blood. does this mean that luna did not really die in the clover ending and that she was alive the whole time and was the only survivor? also would this mean that she had pretended to have radical-6 so that nobody would suspect she was a robot? so many questions
this video is great, this is one of my favourite game of all time
When my friend and I started playing through this game together, we made the Dio Jojo's connection and kept joking that it was him Dio. We were delighted when the ending wrapped around to him being evil
Nice Video :) And thanks for the link in your description
I miss these games. I am planning on replaying them once I finish the game I'm currently playing. I'm really looking forward to playing them again. But I know it will hit differently with what's going on with the world right now.
I like how you pointed out that switching from 999 to vlr makes the player more suspicious of sigma not having a voice actor, im just now finding out that 999 originally didnt have voice acting and i just recently got my friend to start the zero escape series so i noticed he was suspicious about sigma
one of the strongest scenes for me was the monologue of Tenmyouji very close to the end. about the bikers and their fates and lost timelines. when having philosophical conversations with a chosen few people at moody nights I might have brought that up a couple of times
I'm so excited for your Zero Time Dilemma video! If you need assistance, I wrote both a novelization and walkthrough of that game, because I love it to pieces, and it's one of those games that gets better with each successive playthrough.
Darn shame there was never a third game. Excellent video. A little sad you didn't touch on Luna much.
I: There _was_ a third game, though. _Zero Time Dilemma_
@iamnohere lies. Never heard of such a game. Sounds like itd do something awful like make Junpei and Akane terrible humans and have an awkward, slow old dog
@@VaellinTheBard I: I disagree with the assessment, but kudos for the way you've "unperson-ed" the game xD
1:35 Coffee
2:20 Disappointment
8:07 Morphogenic field
9:40 F*cked up
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"Sigma is so fucked up"
I legit just finished vlr and the final twist absolutely blew my mind. I didn't see it coming at all.
Yes Carlos is the best, and more then we all deserve
Every time I play the first two games I'm just so absolutely blown away. Tho those who love uchikoshis work please play the ai: the somnium files games!!!
Really great video. Im definitely gonna stick around!
Thank you, and I hope you enjoy the content!
I swear I got an add that had a dog saying fuck you
Amazing video!
Thank you!
I bought VLR because it was dirt cheap in the 3DS eShop. I didn't know a visual novel could blow my mind the way this did.
25:37 thats EXACTLY what happened to me :// sad i thought of that twist so early on
I'm one of the few people who went into VLR like actually blind. No recommendation, no prior knowledge from 999 and I had no idea what it was outside of the 3DS eshop demo that just lets you play the prison escape room.
also having my name be kay makes this an interesting watching experience
Virtue's Last Reward also has an secret on the box art just like 999 and ZTD. If you look at sigma's hair it has an white lighting on the side and his right eye are glowing.
This is my favorite series
I actually haven't play ZTD because as being the last game of the saga, I want it to make last as much as possible. But seeing how good your reviews are, I'm going to play it as fast as possible to be ready to hear your opinion about the game.
I thought that this would refer to the fact that the game's box art actually hints towards its final twist
At last I can finally see see this and the 999 videos.
Gotta say love the editing tricks you did in both to represent the games gimmick and the analysis in general.
Tbh the ending left me a little sad because as the characters said the secret scene they will be forced to live in that world, of course that means not that much for the ones who escaped they could live a normal life. But for all the other routes where they die in horrible ways those timelines will keep existing as confirmed by this time system and this is not like 999 where death wasn't really planned and clover going mental for example wasn't a part in zero plan. But here it was, like that makes the ending even more impatfull but knowing that ztd doesn't close that much from what I heard and all of this game was just "necessary sacrifices" For that game to happen man man.
On another note I was surprised by the characters, I was told they didn't have time because the plot was the focus but I think is well balanced between the two.
Well in conclusion thanks for presenting me for the series and doing these goated as always
In this ending, Alice and Clover probably SHIFTed with the help of Akane in their original timeline
@@baptix-objectionlol592 in true end yeah but in most of the other timelines they still died 😔
@@xx_pit_xx8492 Yeah, it's the sad truth of the Zero Escape games
22:50 Hey wait, why does Luna have red blood...
Do you think you’ll ever make a review of Zero Time Dilemma?
Waiting for ZTD video.
Oh and i would like to (recommend)/(know your opinion) about "Your turn to die" and "Hotel Dusk: Room 215"
I own a copy of "Hotel Dusk", but have yet to play it. I actually collect DS games, so I'm surprised I haven't gotten to it yet. I'll look into "Your Turn to Die" since I've never heard of it before.
im so glad i slowed down the video around 3:30, very important info was revealed
oh my GOD. i just finished zero time dilemma... the speech at around 2:30 makes more sense now HA
I ended up going down the rightmost path first, so needless to say I got very confused when the dead body appeared when going down the other timelines
17:51 was this scene in the PS/Vita 3DS version of VLR?
I'm so caught off guard whenever the name Kay is used in this video lmao. Hi name buddy!
Played both 999 and VLR and something stops me from playing ZTD every time I try to (it's just not like the previous two)... VLR is by far the best this franchise has to offer. The experience of VLR is something that completely sucked me in and I felt completely empty when it ended, in a good way. I just didn't want to play any other game for like 3-4 months. Nothing could come even close to the experience and the feelings I had with VLR! Nothing... So, I touched another game after some months.
I LIVED the VLR story and experience. I LOVE this game and I am actually very much against Visual Novels. But VLR is something out of this world!
It's pretty crazy the amount of foreshadowing that audio clip is for the third game. What you can almost ignore entirely during VLR is the entire plot of the ZTD. Unfortunately the clip is almost more exciting than the game we got.
Have you played AI the somnium files? It's made by the same writer as the zero escape series (one of my favourite of all time). What are your thoughts on it? Would love to potentially see a video about it! 😊
So uh, when's the next part?
6:23
"Sigma's childhood curse that he would make cat puns whenever they were mentioned.
The colors of the bracelet and how those allowed the players to open the chromatic doors.
The debate on the identity of Phi's cup size.
Whether Dio is actually a circus performer or if he's just a lunatic.
Were the Ardanian Guards warning us not to forget them because they knew about the inevitable patch coming soon?
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Is Carlos the American hero we need, but the one we deserve and also the greatest character to be introduced into the Zero Escape series?"
I don't know why I bothered to try and listen for all of that (and still probably got some of that wrong), but the fact that you put effort to do silly stuff like this is fantastic
why does luna have blood in clover's ending?
to get around my partner being suspicious of VLR whenever they get to it, I seeded a little lie to them.
999 got full voice acting in the Nonary games edition
So I said "They reused the voice acting from the original VLR for this version, so the main character still doesn't have a voice" framing it as some cost cutting measure
I often do this with mystery games to throw them off the trail, (and also with that one moment in Bug Fables with the red crystal, telling them about it at the start of the game made that moment oh so much sweeter)
Didn't Sigma pack 18 inches?
what is that k voice acting where is babey k
I love Phi she's pretty relatable.
19:32 Heh, clever reference.
And saving world from Radical-6 is in ZTD. Only how it makes player jump randomly in events it's confusing.
And there is one ending that I got under 20 minutes, guessing right coin flip. And that's first and only ending I got in it so far.
Also the significance of Sigma and Phi's names. Both are key factors in quantum physics, specifically Schrödinger's equation that tracks probability of particle movement, i.e. measuring the likely state of the cat being alive or dead before opening the box and observing it. That guess is the best hope of finding something without directly observing it. Sigma and Phi are the best hope of finding if there's a way to save humanity before the end.
Honestly throughout the game I was wondering why we never saw Sigma in the present.
Yeah in the first game junpei was seen several times like this scene with Lotus on the computer
Criminally underrated analysis videos
5:49 I'm not a mathematician, but isn't the "ideal" purely logical option to pick Confess every time?
If there's no way to communicate or collaborate with the partner, the only thing you can base your decision-making on is whether the partner will pick Silent or Confess and plan accordingly relative to those choices.
If they choose Silent, 1 year is better than 2 years so you should pick Confess. If they pick Confess, 10 years is still better than 15 years so you should still pick Confess.
Now, granted this doesn't account for things like morality or empathy or self-sacrifice which is what the whole subplot progression with Luna is all about. Am I getting this right?
I thought Sigma being not voiced like many other VNs i played was an artistic choice... Man was i wrong
Best review yet.
Is that Patrick Warburton?