USW 4 - FX | Awestin (Ness) vs PG | MVD (Snake) Grand Finals - SSBU
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Ultimate Shockwave 4
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01/03/2019
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He healed 568 percent.
Don’t ask how long that took me to work out...
You are the true hero of this comment section !
Dnake kills way earlier than 160, so he got A LOT of mileage out of healing lmao. It was really smart of him to abuse his healing to deal with snakes oppressive options though. props to him
@@docreverb Not that smart imo. I've seen Gackt play he really uses PSI Magnet to move around and that's cool to watch, in this match up it would work great. Awestin just used a natural counter to bombs, there's nothing to praise here. I'm still more impressed by how aggressive Fow plays. But Awestin's style is rather classical and safe imo, which is less interesting to watch in the end.
Wow....
@@re.n8208 Awestin used it for movement too though, though mainly for stalling his recovery/landings (for mixups). Sometimes it absorbed and helped with movement at the same time, it's just versatile
This is an amazing match. Post malone vs that guy from lost? Impressive
How can you forget the name of that Weezer album guy?
@@FastForward025 oh damn you're right idk how I forgot that curly haired actor guy
Hurley!
So that's what Hurley's been doing on the island all these years. Nothing but training in Smash.
@@Nyah420 Well what else is he going to do with his time after winning the lottery?
Snake vs Psycho Mantis (2005, colorized)
Ness? He's that ninja...
Oh, you like EarthBound!
You like roleplaying games.
felixdaniels37 Since when were things in 2005 in black and white?
Psycho Mantis???
@@dogestranding5047 r/iamverysmart
This set is breathtaking, holy.
EJJTM umm ok
oh my god... I'm shaking from this match. I can't even imagine how they must feel? Awestin is truly one of the best Ness I've ever saw.
Word!
Lol what bout FOW have you forgot about him? JRK!!
Nah. Ness is just a massive counter pick to Snake. The fact he barely won by a match that's in his favor like that kinda shows he's not even close to MVD's level. It really only came down to the character picks. Ness literally counters everything Snake can set up
*Seen.
You might have some disease... lol relax bud
Best SSBU set I’ve seen yet
PurexReapz Omfg I never knew snake was cold af if you know how to play with him
idk that konga finals set was pretty good. that dude can fucking hit some parries.
22:54 PK Thunder working as intended
The funny thing is that was a thing in SSB4 as well lol.
Somethings never change.
@@the_bookworm8281 What was it? A glitch?
@@Hedgpig not at all, just that in all smash games you cannot SD by jumping through the top blast zone, but any hit while up there counts as knockback and you instantly die. For example, put on a bunny hood, jump off the top, and have someone throw a smoke ball or super weak item at you. You die instantly. Ness is just unique because he can reach you anywhere up there.
@@WarningStrangerDanger I don't think you looked at the timestamp
Hedgpig no Ness hit himself with pk thunder which launched him into snake its a incredibly powerful move
1:28
"Exploding the grenade with PK Fire put on a lot more damage!"
"I think that may have been good for him because it got him out of the PK Fire and just took some damage"
"Ok"
DoctorChained lmao super late but I think what they were going for was that if mvd got hit by the pk fire although it would’ve been less damage than to get exploded by his nade it leaves options for awestin to follow it up with a more devastating move
Some thoughts/take-away from this set:
- Awestin is hands down the best Ness in the USA (Not to discredit but he slightly above both FOW and JTails). Not only in Ultimate tournament placements but also is a cut above other Ness players in terms of movement (rivals Gackt), execution, recovery and adaptation. He has placed 1st or second place 3-4 Ultimate Shockwave Weeklies, 1st in Xanzy’s Dreamland, and 4th at Ultimatum (1st in doubles w/ Jayson). If he has the opportunity to travel more, I am sure he will continue to place well and raise the bar for Ness players in NA.
- People are sleeping on Ness big time and tend to place him lower on their tier lists because of his recovery. Even though he does have some glaring weaknesses (most notably shorter range, bad match-ups and recovery) he also has received a huge amount of buffs this time around. His aerial game is nuts and with magnet stalling he has some of the craziest movement options in the game. Furthermore, he has a legion of kill options and reliable set-ups.
- MVD’s Snake is really a fantastic thing to watch and IMHO at this present moment is slightly better than Ally’s Snake. His set-up game and reads are really on another level. He is really pushing this character to new unprecedented levels and showing how effective Snake can be even when facing strong counterpicks. Just a brilliant player overall and I hope he has great success in Ultimate (if he keeps playing the way he does, he is a strong contender to be the very best in the world).
- That being said… Not to discredit MVD (because we all know no ordinary Snake is going to execute this well and look as clean) but anyone who thinks that Snake is not in the top ten needs to pull their head out of the sand. The shear amount of options this character has (not to mention the ability to execute on said options) is quite staggering. Nikita is currently the best ledge guarding tool in the game, grenades are great for blowing up approaches and stuffing combos. He has a decent kill moves and absolutely oppressive suffocating set-ups. Like every character, he has faults and some troublesome match-ups, but, quite honestly, when played at the level of MVD, it is hard to see how he could be anything less than top ten. His kit is just too good and people are really struggling to consistently nerf his recovery. The amount of damage he can output is wild.
- One small thing to note: Both MVD and Esam have mentioned that their other roommate is a Ness main. I’m not too sure who that person is but I’d imagine he is no slouch. So, MVD went into this match-up with a lot of knowledge beforehand. Awestin played a great set and managed to keep his composure throughout the entirety of the GF set. Kudos to both players and thanks to the folks at USW for the upload.
Their roommate's name is Ricky, and Leffen thinks that Snake is not that good. He even pissed off Salem about it, and that's what led Salem to going off at the Melee community.
I’d honestly argue title of best Ness is much closer between him and FOW than you’re saying
@@niccolovanible1001 yeah I agree they play very differently but both very offensively, I would love to see them go head to head. also do you know why awestin wont/can't travel?
There’s no comparison to Fow. He’s on a different level from any other ness
FOW is definitely the best Ness in the US.
The constant tension leaves me trembling at the end of this glorious set. As a longtime Ness player, watching Awestin do his thing is like performance art. Knowing how hard it is to do half the stuff he's doing, I can't even fathom pulling it off with that much pressure. This is the best set I've seen yet - I think the slower more methodical pace really lets you see the skill of both players and the mindgames at play.
More former Sm4sh players need to take notes from Awestin. One of the few Ultimate players regularly going off stage for edge guards. Big Leff would be proud. Lol
I mean it's snake, you'd be stupid to not edgeguard him with ness.
he also gets some good tech chase scenarios in
Ness typically has one of the better edge guards that doesn't require leaving ledge between PK Thunder, PK Fire, and Yoyos. But it's Snake.
Don't even bother with meleeguarding dude. It's an exploit and Nintendo WILL patch it out.
nice bait dude
This is it. This is the match that made me see Ultimate as a spectator E-Sport. That was really entertaining.
I love MVD, but I’m rooting for Awestin! He’s the high skill underdog.
Edit: holly shit... what a set!
Nah Ness conter Snake LUL xD Kappa
Who's Holly?
I always rooted for MVD's Duck Hunt back in smash 4 but I'll never bring myself to root for a Snake in Ultimate. Glad Awestin won
@@success5083 What is wrong with Snake?
TheLegless101 He lost against a Snake that was teabagging at every kill. Ever since that day, he was never the same. His unreasonable hatred for Snake made him hate any who dared support that monster,
God knows how much percent has awesstine restored during the entire set.
This Match was intense
player and character.
568% from another commenter
@@PaulusCunctator that's a lot
Arcane Thank you for atleast not stealing the credit for the math. I was expecting to see someone say the answer all high and proud as if they actually knew.
Best set in smash ultimate history (so far)
Easily. Really hype set. Awestin and MVD are such a treat to watch and seeing Awestin reverse 3-0 him was sick
I doubt he’s a top tier. Sword characters are way too good plus other projectile characters like Young Link and Toon Link are gonna prevent him from being top. His recovery is way too exploitable.
With that said, his strengths have been buffed so much that it really shines through. Characters like Pikachu, Snake, Inkling, and Pichu (characters many seem to think are also top/high tier atm) Ness does well enough against to balance out sword characters being so bad for him.
@ArT oF wAr If you thought this was good watch Fow, hes an even better Ness than Awestin in my opinion. And hes a top player, his exploitation of Ness' bluffs are ridiculous. Hes absolutely insane. As for the Top tier thing he could be. Ness has so much potential in this game it's not even funny. However I will say he still has a disadvantage against projectile and zoning characters. With the removal of power shielding it's harder to get in on someone who's good at spamming projectiles. However his movement options with the down B make him much more mobile than he ever was so against zoners and sword characters he definitely has better matchups against them overall. This is the best version of Ness by far. I'm happy to main him.
Would've been better with better commentators. But still a great set.
What I perhaps love about FOW is how aggressive he is
Can we talk about how great the commentators are? These guys truly are the cherry on top for this set
Dratica agreed, theyre just as hyped as we are but they still act like good announcers
As a melee player who is enjoying SSBU a lot but still trying to find the same excitement watching a competitive match, look no further
This is an amazing set to watch, the skill from both players had me yelling and cheering back and forth.
Looking forward to seeing more amazing sets!
Thanks for the content and I love the smash series as a whole one love y'all
ua-cam.com/video/M-jvcA1f8yk/v-deo.html heres another crazy set from Ultimatum, Awestin actually placed 4th at that tourney his last few games were nutz as well.
@George Henry Bro that was uncalled for
George Henry I didn’t like your first comment but I agree on the other.
George Henry how insecure are you that you have to announce your hatred for melee at every opportunity lmao
just enjoy the things you enjoy, this guy was just trying to relate to other melee players
George Henry there was literally no reason to mock this guy for simply trying to relate to other melee players. you went out of your way to bash it when it didn’t affect you at all. someone who goes out of their way to be unnecessarily cruel to others is doing it because there’s something inside them not satisfied with how things are, otherwise they’d just leave them alone. I don’t know what that is for you. maybe you’re projecting a fear that people who aren’t “true” smash fans in your eyes will enjoy your game and be part of the same circles you are. maybe you’ve had a few bad experiences with melee players and now you’re projecting those negative emotions onto anyone who expresses any respect for the game. maybe it’s something else entirely.
but something had to have cut really deep for you to be this pissed off at the mere mention of melee
What if you wanted to get into heaven but god said "THERE!"
Id use psi magnet
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well
wasnt that on alphas channel lol
@Josh D his name is kinda fitting in a way too.
@Josh D You really dislike memes, don't you?
22:22 surprised this man awestin's chair didn't break under the weight of those cement bags he has for balls and to be able to recover vertically with ness from off screen so close to the wall after an off stage punish. This man has gone beyond God level skill with ness HE HAS BECOME NESS. They have psychologically intertwined to become one
I thought you were going to comment someething mean about his weight, but then you surprised me by this happy comment.
Show me a better Ultimate set. I'll wait.
ua-cam.com/video/M-jvcA1f8yk/v-deo.html here
I was about to comment the Orex vs JaySon set but someone already did. That was hype as fuck to watch live on stream.
Blazingpasta vs. mr. E
@@robg6501 same
O O F
man this Ness plays soo dope.
Spamming PK thunder and huge hitbox disjoints? Nah.
LoftOfTheUniverse nice bait
@@LoftOfTheUniverse "Using his tools to win? Nah."
What did he mean by this
@@PokeWolfe64 it means the healing should not exceed the amount of damage normally dealt by the attack. Unless you think a grenade should do 28+ damage.
@@LoftOfTheUniverse salty bitch
It's incredible to see how well Awestin used Ness' tools to deal with all of Snake's projectiles effectively. Great set and great plays from both players.
Awestin is the perfect Ness player. I never thought I would see such an ideal Ness being used such an ideal way.
He played ness smarter than any other player it’s sad to see him retire
MVD with that fresh Alpharad hoodie tho
The perfect kill setup doesn’t exis-
22:56
SHEEEEEEEET
THIS IS WHAT I CALL
A SET.
I am officially an Awestin fan after this, THE PLAYS
This set was INSANE. What a nailbiter and the big brain plays by Awestin were legendary
God MVD's Snake is looking clean
Ally would have owned this ness
@@severknight1143 I'm not saying he would or wouldnt but I prefer watching MVD over Ally
@@JV-pt6ht k
Looks like I have a new player to look up to as a Ness main
This whole 30 minutes had me hype WOW!
I always find myself on this sub during break, a long day after work, and before bed. Amazing gameplay, and even better commentary!
YOOOO!!! That was so hype. Really inspiring stuff coming from Awestin, and I’m glad to see PSI magnet really coming together with the rest of the Ness meta. Both players played so well, but Awestin definitely deserved that win, all the way.
Hot diggity, that set was hype af. I've watched many smash matches and this one was for sure one of the best. So many twists and turns like you don't know who's gonna win the game. I was so nervous for awestin and was rooting for him the entire time. Great game!!!
Best set of SSU so far by far!! That was insane! That game play was much better than anything I've seen so far. These 2 will hopefully keep leading the way for this game
Yeah, this is the best ultimate set ever. Great play from both, but omg those insane heals from awestin, just immaculate.
Absolutely Amazing.
Holy cow this set was insanity. Makes me proud to be a Ness player. Ugh I need more
Oh my god what a good set!!! It’s 4 am and I literally can’t sleep for a while. Was just talking to my friend about how it wasn’t until now that I finally get why people are into sports, and how people can go back to watching a full soccer game after having witnessed a frame-to-frame combat like this
I hope MVD gets a new sponsor soon
Broke my heart when I found out he wasn't with PG anymore
This is one of the greatest sets I've ever watched. Very entertaining.
Wonderful grands set that was extremely entertaining I must say Awestin is a much better Ness player then myself but I think he could really benefit from using more pika flash it’s an underrated move that sends the enemy flying
Its problem is that it’s easily punishable and it’s slow (for obvious reasons)
I never genuinely enjoyed a set so much in such a long time... like wow
Awestin for best ness
I’d say he and FOW def seem like the best one atm
@@niccolovanible1001 I'd put Awestin above both FOW and Jtails...he's just on a completely different level atm. Still have to see Nakat's Ness but I think he dropped the character altogether.
@@success5083 Awestin doesnt have as many wins against top players as FOW though
@@gxstly I was strictly speaking in Ultimate
I prefer Fow's gameplay
Best set of matches I have ever seen. Greatness in you both. May the force be with you
I've been a Ness main for a while now and I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the concept that Down B is actually usable. I mean through heals alone this 21:45 was basically a no damage stock. That's insane to me.
At 22:54 if MVD that crouch/laid down, Awestin would've SD'd lmao. Would've be the best thing I ever witnessed
"Please don't" famous last words lmao
This awestin guy is almost inhuman, it's only been a month since the game came out and it looks like he's already at the upper human limits of mastery of his character. How'd he get that good so quick?
Ness hasn't changed much between Smash 4 and Ultimate, he still plays exactly the same. If anything, he's just gotten a couple of new tools to make him better. Maining him in Smash 4 basically means you'll have a very powerful main going into Ultimate, and that means Awestin really only had to adapt to the new gameplay mechanics.
@@supavids4eva I would say that Down B has approved him alot as now he has such a good movement option.
This is the kind of gameplay I've been waiting for
Dope, been wondering how a match between Awestin's Ness and MVD's Snake would go. Figured magnet would lean it in Ness' favor. Now I wanna see how Sinji's PAC would do against these two in tourney.
The commentary and the match is just badass
I jumped out of my bed at 3am when Awestin pulled the last match. Unreal, time to play more Ness
Seeing two of my main characters in finals makes me insanely happy.
Take a shot every time the commentator says “oh my god.” Great set by the way
Edit: One of the best sets of Ultimate I’ve seen so far
Hard not to with all the crazy but I’ll definitely try to make a conscious effort to tone it down in the future 😅
Sorry
TheRyanNeighbor I didn’t mean it in offensive way, I just thought it was funny. You did great, with all of the amazing plays I probably would have been hype as well. I’m sorry
@@ethanherzing3395 no offense taken! I understand it was probably a well intended comment, you're all good! I've still got some things I'll need to work on moving forward regardless, it definitely wasn't a bad thing to bring that to my attention haha
Not only is this match intense but the commentators are pretty hype too and they work off of each other which is so much better then most commentators. All around 11/10
I would LOVE to see Awestin VS Ally, because Ally is my favourite Snake ever!
Unlike Smash 4, I don't see Ness falling off.
Depends. Smash 4 had a few factors as to why Ness fell off. People learned to fight him and exploit his poor range and gimpable recovery plus Ness didn’t fair too well against characters like Sonic, projectile users like Toon Link, Lucina, or Marth. Ness still had some relevance but then DLC came and both Cloud and Corrin wiped Ness off from the metagame.
No one can say this is not an absolute joy to watch. Love what this game is
The power of the Jeff Goldblum shirt is strong.
Looking at ness like "Thats my boy"😭
What a set
Set was incredible to watch. I super popped off for our boy Awestin on that last game lol.
What a great match. I thought mvd was guna take it but awestin was playing out of his mind. Ness could be a good counter pick for snake. That was truly a legendary smash ultimate set.
The windbox from the psi magnet on the grenade was either the biggest brain play I have ever seen or the happiest accident in ultimate so far. Awestin is insane. DFW putting out great sets in ultimate.
that last game was insane
Easily the best Ultimate set thus far
awestin has always been a beautiful ness player, my fav, maybe the best
That set was fucking insane. This is what top tier zoning looks like, MVD setting examples for Snake mains
22:55 that surprised all of us I'm sure
For someone who hates playing Ness for his nasty PK fire and thunder shenanigans, I gotta say both Awestin and MVD played pretty damn good. This was so great to watch, and commentators were actually hype, which is understandable considering Awestin is the Smash hero of Texas.
Awestin! good stuff.
I love how this is the Grand Finals and one of the dopest sets I've seen yet there's still countless people in the background not giving a shit
I like Awestin, he's good at close situations, he mostly keeps his cool.
Dude, I miss these tournaments with Awestin :(
Holy shit, both sets had me on the edge of my seat. They were both so aggressive in their plays, it was awesome.
This character matchup is made for the flashiest mixups I’ve ever scene god DAMN.
This match has set the bar for all matches in 2019. This was magic!
Edit: WTF!
that one pk thunder through snakes dash attack for the game was insane lmao
greatest match I've watched. So intense!!!
Every video I've seen with Austin in it is just how awesome Austin is
You have to come back to this set every year to remind yourself how good awestin was before he retired
Imagine this was happening the same time archeologists unearthed the temple of the flayer lord this morning... magnificent.
Extremely fun matchup to watch! Great showcase of each character from each player!
the most skillful and intelligent set ive seen yet so far
i didn't even know psi magnet could absorb snake's explosives.
Jesus. I honestly thought one of the best Ness' out there was Jtails (and he still is), but Awestin is something else. A guy who barely travels to other tourneys beat none other than MVD. Possibly the best set I've seen from Ultimate so far. Future tournaments are gonna have to try VERY hard to top that, this grand final _needs_ to be made known about.
Um... Have you seen... Fow? He's the best Ness main in the world and quite a leap from all these other big Ness mains.
It's crazy to think that at 22:54, if MVD spot dodged or evaded at the right time not only would he come back from losers with a 3-0, but Awestin would have dropped the whole tournament with an uncharacteristic SD at 0%. This man is nuts.
Snake's up tilt is nutz
"Lettem land, MVD wants to play the game~"
Does anybody know if Awestin has social media or twitch!? LIKE ANYTHING. I want to follow this legend
Love the vibes and the sportsmanship, literally looks like two bros playing friendlies lol
Literally the most insane game of smash I've seen. Holy fuck
Awestin’s play style is so dope. Definitely best in the game hands down!!
22:51 simply amazing
An angel smiles every time a Snake is KO'd.
This man is so damn entertaining to watch I hope he can travel to some big tourneys and win to show everyone he can handle it big
Mvd got a bit nervy right at the end there; should have shileded and baited but agree, that Ness is too good
Very good match
9:12 when your horse starts moving too fast
This set was amazing on both sides. Props to both of them!
Best set I've ever seen