125 Two-Stroke vs 450 Four-Stroke: What's Faster?

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  • You guys asked for it, so here it is! 2005 cr125 two-stroke vs 2019 crf450r works edition four-stroke. Let me know what comparison you guys want to see next.
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  • @jrcaprai
    @jrcaprai 5 років тому +2030

    I think a better test is a 125cc vs 250 Four stroke, or a 250cc Two stroke vs 450

    • @wlehtola
      @wlehtola 4 роки тому +64

      I wondered, most classes I've watched race its 250 vs 450, not one 125.

    • @Garminrules
      @Garminrules 4 роки тому +50

      Why not 250 2 stroke vs 250 4 stroke....why do strokers always run against smaller 2 strokes??

    • @jrcaprai
      @jrcaprai 4 роки тому +52

      @@Garminrules when 4 Strokers came into the scene in the early 2000's, the AMA rules were that up to a 450cc 4 stroke could race against the 250cc two strokes. Also up to a 250cc 4 stroke could race in the 125cc class... due to the 2 strokes having more power at the time.... AMA was trying to make it even.

    • @dinostudios6579
      @dinostudios6579 4 роки тому +29

      Then the 2 stroke would win no question.

    • @jrcaprai
      @jrcaprai 4 роки тому +15

      @@dinostudios6579 During the early 2000's that was the case! but now the 4 Strokes have evolved so much the 450 HP in now almost = 500 cc 2 Strokes

  • @jsb5188
    @jsb5188 5 років тому +771

    Next comparison: CR500AF VS RM50

  • @mxboardguitarsnake5
    @mxboardguitarsnake5 5 років тому +2219

    Yeah but the 125 whips were twice as filthy. So that's -10 seconds every lap.

    • @michaelmorton6781
      @michaelmorton6781 5 років тому +52

      Rohan Evans scrubs make u faster less air time/ wheels on the ground rippin. =faster lap with those scrubs my guy

    • @user-sp8eb6iz7f
      @user-sp8eb6iz7f 5 років тому +3

      @@michaelmorton6781 evidence?

    • @gannethacker6502
      @gannethacker6502 5 років тому +11

      This nigga rly not pulling the clutch in before his jumps i forgot that 1 time... Bikes engine staled... Nearly died lmao

    • @jmfdub
      @jmfdub 5 років тому +25

      gannet hacker must have a shitty bike

    • @bleachinuri
      @bleachinuri 5 років тому +19

      @@jmfdub you must be a shitty human

  • @markmoore4088
    @markmoore4088 5 років тому +789

    The CR125 sounds like a bunch of pissed-off bees! 😅

    • @tornado1078
      @tornado1078 5 років тому +30

      ikr it sounds awesome

    • @cosmos6476
      @cosmos6476 4 роки тому +10

      Jeez, my 125 sounds like the 450 In the vid

    • @RickyGuterson
      @RickyGuterson 4 роки тому +20

      Well at least is doesn't sound like it's shitting itself all over the track 😂

    • @daytonwintle6051
      @daytonwintle6051 4 роки тому +5

      Trumpetboi49 you have a ttr125 don’t u

    • @clothsloth
      @clothsloth 4 роки тому +2

      And imagine that...in 90s Motocross World championship..50 125cc bee starting...omfg.. I crying..

  • @The3DSeth
    @The3DSeth 5 років тому +1506

    What people don't fully understand is how fast you actually are in person. You look fast on camera, but as a local who rides 74 and FTT fairly often, I can tell everyone watching videos that it still does not do you justice. Jeff is a wicked fast rider peeps! (and a cool dude too!)

    • @JeffWalker84
      @JeffWalker84  5 років тому +80

      Thanks man I appreciate that a lot!

    • @bryanroberts
      @bryanroberts 5 років тому +37

      I've rode dirtbikes for over 20 years and it's easy to see that Jeff kills it.. If you have spent much time on a bike it's easy to see how fast that dude is.. I bet its even easier in person!!

    • @kylestaalesen520
      @kylestaalesen520 5 років тому +7

      Seth Arnold he should be fast he’s a pro😂😂😂

    • @beauclose2235
      @beauclose2235 5 років тому +13

      @@kylestaalesen520 you must be fast before being a pro being called a pro doesn't make going that fast any easier

    • @freedomisntfree_44
      @freedomisntfree_44 5 років тому

      Seth Arnold that’s what I was thinking gotta get me another bike 😫

  • @BenMc1981
    @BenMc1981 5 років тому +90

    i dont care what anyone says, ill always love the 2 bangers more. Grew up always had one, still got 2 love em.

    • @stx.98_72
      @stx.98_72 4 роки тому +1

      Its 2 stroke not banger

    • @soundbreakermusic
      @soundbreakermusic 4 роки тому +11

      chi chi it's a nick name stupid

    • @BenMc1981
      @BenMc1981 4 роки тому +9

      @@stx.98_72 that's what we call em down here in Aus mate relax

    • @alwynhancock8446
      @alwynhancock8446 4 роки тому +5

      2 smokers are definitely more fun to ride..especially when hitting the power band🚀

    • @theforlanjoker4457
      @theforlanjoker4457 4 роки тому

      Agreed mate got a kx 85 bored out to 97 and a kdx 200 these are soo much more fun rebuilding constantly playing with the carb. Controlling the splurge

  • @Mxrider92i
    @Mxrider92i 5 років тому +761

    Man I swear you could just sneak under the factory Honda rig and everybody would think you're Cole Seely lol

    • @BassMaann
      @BassMaann 5 років тому +18

      this guy rides more wide open than seely tho...

    • @alexholmes8451
      @alexholmes8451 5 років тому +38

      They would wonder where the fuck 'cole' got all the speed from all of a sudden

    • @crffilmz7300
      @crffilmz7300 5 років тому +4

      @@BassMaann ooh that's so true shots fired

    • @jblob5764
      @jblob5764 5 років тому

      @@alexholmes8451 for real tho 🤣🤣

    • @SonsoftheEagle
      @SonsoftheEagle 5 років тому

      Because Cale Sealy is a spoiled brat. Who needs his ass kicked.

  • @techuila
    @techuila 4 роки тому +71

    is anyone gonna talk about how smooth the camera makes all this look? Either that or this guy is landing jumps smooth as butter.

  • @rglce25
    @rglce25 5 років тому +1650

    Whoever gave this a thumbs down must ride quads or gay

    • @boost219
      @boost219 5 років тому +73

      Rks 25 quad riders are gay so same thing

    • @k1ngkyle568
      @k1ngkyle568 5 років тому +148

      Must be some immature kids who think they are the coolest in school cause they ride dirtbikes and like to put down quad riders... grow up, it doesnt matter what you ride.

    • @boost219
      @boost219 5 років тому +45

      King Kyle Must be some churchy that cant take a joke

    • @robertbandy216
      @robertbandy216 5 років тому +35

      @@boost219Riding a quad is the equivalent to doing hurdles in the special Olympics.

    • @stmboat
      @stmboat 5 років тому +17

      King Kyle's top speed is 29 mph. Also he is gay.

  • @Josh1901
    @Josh1901 4 роки тому +130

    0:31 mint cbr1000rr

  • @DoubleOJoe
    @DoubleOJoe 5 років тому +606

    When she says shes home alone!

  • @greg657
    @greg657 5 років тому +54

    This track gives all the advantage to the 450. Tighten it up ,a little more technical and watch that 125 shine.

    • @satanlucifer1003
      @satanlucifer1003 3 роки тому +1

      weight and dimensions are practically same so not really

    • @BaggelasTV
      @BaggelasTV 3 роки тому +3

      @@satanlucifer1003 but not the power 😂😂 And no. Weight isn’t the same ...

    • @satanlucifer1003
      @satanlucifer1003 3 роки тому +5

      @@BaggelasTV sx125 has a bit under 40 hp. Sxf450 has 55-60 hp. sx125 weighs about 90kg and sxf450 around 100kg. The weight difference isn't very high, and the power difference is quite substantial, especially with the torque. So a 450 wins always.

    • @BaggelasTV
      @BaggelasTV 3 роки тому

      @@satanlucifer1003 yeah. But didn’t in your previous comment say that they are practically the same?😂. When they really aren’t

    • @satanlucifer1003
      @satanlucifer1003 3 роки тому +1

      @@BaggelasTV I meant that since the weight difference isn't astronomical, the 450 would still win even on a tighter track. OP said that a 125 would win on a tighter track, but I simply pointed out that the slight advantage wouldn't help enough.

  • @alexmountney6591
    @alexmountney6591 5 років тому +350

    It actually looked like you cornered better on the 125, i mean it looked faster

    • @jameslong3375
      @jameslong3375 5 років тому +44

      Alex Mountney I think it could have something to do with the sound making it feel faster because it sounds more rowdy

    • @kennyhamann3209
      @kennyhamann3209 5 років тому +7

      I think it was good first lap I felt like he could slip the clutch a little more on the first or second turn a little more but other than that that 125 is so much lighter its easier to throw around I love riding 2 strokes for that reason

    • @antoniocaires7004
      @antoniocaires7004 5 років тому +13

      the 125 didnt go so fast hence he didn t have to brake that much which makes look quicker and sketchy

    • @umarbello4463
      @umarbello4463 5 років тому +6

      Alex Mountney it’s lighter

    • @endurofan9854
      @endurofan9854 5 років тому +3

      Alex Mountney
      it was faster...
      just 7 sec gap with d 450 4t on d 125 2t thats a small gap...
      if it was a 250 2t he might even do it in 1:16
      😅

  • @tylerkull2847
    @tylerkull2847 4 роки тому +24

    The 4 strokes wind in a long distance the 2 stroke wins in a shorter distance basically the 2 stroke has more acceleration and the 4 stroke had more top speed

    • @jaggy4770
      @jaggy4770 4 роки тому +1

      @Harry Peterson yes but she probably has experience or they are not trying because not everyone is going to a track to rip it maybe just for practise

    • @jaggy4770
      @jaggy4770 4 роки тому

      @Harry Peterson yes but usually when ur older ur gonna start on a 250 or 450, they are probably learning aswell to race competitively or they are just having fun cuz I don't race I go riding in big trails

  • @nicholascacciola7736
    @nicholascacciola7736 5 років тому +211

    can we get a vid of you ripping the 125 but not a helmet cam like someone video tapping you

  • @austinhelander8358
    @austinhelander8358 5 років тому +56

    People say the 2 stroke is dead, but i think the fact that youre even comparing a 125 and a 450 is a testament to what theyre capable of. Stay badass and long live the 2 stroke! 🤘

    • @Snas_Undertall
      @Snas_Undertall 3 роки тому +3

      Four stroke would woop the 2 stroke, no matter the cc's

    • @Loganon2wheels
      @Loganon2wheels 3 роки тому +4

      @@Snas_Undertall Not really, more depends on the rider.

    • @Snas_Undertall
      @Snas_Undertall 3 роки тому +2

      @@Loganon2wheels yeah, that's a major factor to. I ain't sayin 2 strokes ain't a good dirt bike, I'm just sayin I think 4 stroke is better

    • @laurae3117
      @laurae3117 3 роки тому +1

      Ir ride 4 stroke and it's pretty fast

    • @jevinmccully2637
      @jevinmccully2637 3 роки тому +2

      @@Snas_Undertall falseee

  • @TheNomPit
    @TheNomPit 5 років тому +111

    A Jeff Walker notification is the best notification

  • @somedude3887
    @somedude3887 3 роки тому +30

    2 stroke sounds like the mosquito that’s in your room in the summer for no reason

  • @CamRSaws
    @CamRSaws 5 років тому +52

    Definitely one of the best 125 riders I know so fast dude!🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @alexishoude1249
    @alexishoude1249 5 років тому +1

    Quality and simplicity of this Video is unreal🤘🏼🤘🏼 love the stabilizer on the GoPro. Great content

  • @jamesmlinaric1468
    @jamesmlinaric1468 5 років тому +61

    By having this lack of power with the 125 and so this necessity of keeping a linear speed everywhere. You look like a thousand times more agressive and way faster going into turns. You really look like putting maximum effort on the 2stroke. While on the other hand with the 450, looks like you are searching to avoid putting yourself in the red physically and not putting yourself in danger because the horsepower will do the job while going out of the turns. Lemme know what do you think about my thoughts 😉 By the way, I really like your videos, all of em, you’re doing really simples, naturals and great videos. Keep it going mate !!

    • @masonbroadhead6847
      @masonbroadhead6847 5 років тому +6

      I think 125s can be insane around a track but with tons of power and displacement the 450 is just so much more forgiving. A 450 can make a slow rider look fast, 125 on the other hand you absolutely have to ride the piss out of and be perfect.

    • @eagle94haslanded
      @eagle94haslanded 5 років тому +4

      The 125 lets him ride full throttle through the whole track. The 450 could easily send him off the track he has to control the power.

  • @RUSSDsPhotography
    @RUSSDsPhotography 5 років тому +4

    I loved the 2-stroke part. Reminds me of my hay days before I broke my back and had to give up the sport 11 years ago.

  • @UlisesGlez26
    @UlisesGlez26 5 років тому +212

    Any plans on getting a CR 250 for a lap comparision?

  • @Y-Roy100Kx
    @Y-Roy100Kx 3 роки тому +4

    4:30 my man flew literally

  • @alfiemx8415
    @alfiemx8415 5 років тому +77

    That 1st whip was nuts

  • @jefffrock3600
    @jefffrock3600 5 років тому +1

    First of I really dig your channel and everything you are putting out. Very very cool stuff. And I must say your an incredible rider. Very fast. But the one thing I desperately want to see is a track comparison with lap times between a ktm 300 2-stroke and a 450 4-stroke. With both bikes I would hope to see the similar amount of mods. And both newer machines. This is one comparison that I've never seen and really want to see... can you make this happen...? I want to see at what point does a 2-stroke have as fast or faster lap times as a built 450 4-stroke. Please make this happen Jeff. Thanks for your effort and keep doing what your doing brother.

  • @bencole6321
    @bencole6321 5 років тому +363

    125 sounds faster #2stroke

    • @KODYSRCS
      @KODYSRCS 5 років тому +39

      . 4 stroke is better than a 2 stroke. The truth hurts

    • @etaunknown4024
      @etaunknown4024 5 років тому +11

      Wfo the whole time on the 125 but that 450 was yawning wondering if it was actually awake or just dreaming that it was at the track lol.

    • @KamINgame
      @KamINgame 5 років тому +23

      @@KODYSRCS nice joke grandpa

    • @thanosbustedinyourmum
      @thanosbustedinyourmum 5 років тому +7

      Ben MX so now we’re basing off what sounds faster rather than what’s actually faster lmfao #idiot

    • @randomgoprovideos6706
      @randomgoprovideos6706 5 років тому +5

      @Ben MX , well of course it sounds faster because he has to keep it pinned around the whole track to get close to what his time was on the 4 stroke

  • @samuelgagnon4953
    @samuelgagnon4953 3 роки тому +1

    Finally!! A real test who put two different bike but not two different rider!!!! That what we want to see!killing it on the 2 stroke omg ahah

  • @dennismillus4581
    @dennismillus4581 5 років тому +149

    Jeff Walker. Any chance you can get your hands on to a Honda CR500 Steelie or a Honda CR500af.. Then compare those against your 450...

    • @JeffWalker84
      @JeffWalker84  5 років тому +20

      I would absolutely love to! If someone near me had one, I'd take it for a spin for sure

    • @dennismillus4581
      @dennismillus4581 5 років тому +1

      @@JeffWalker84 I am sure you would find one. If you looked hard enough. But, when you do. Please make sure it's not a 500 that us Clapped out..

    • @thatgingar8765
      @thatgingar8765 5 років тому

      Jeff Walker I have one but I’m located in Idaho

    • @johnathanhenderson3240
      @johnathanhenderson3240 5 років тому +5

      That's a given the cr500 will win

    • @mrbillnot
      @mrbillnot 5 років тому +7

      I took lap times at several nationals back in the 80s when they had all 3 classes the same day. The 500 class was slower than the 125s and 250s every time. The 450F is still going to be the fastest.

  • @C4Detonator
    @C4Detonator 5 років тому +1

    That track looks insanely fun.

  • @ryankline572
    @ryankline572 5 років тому +32

    8:16 so low!!!!

  • @kajtiolomeo1471
    @kajtiolomeo1471 4 роки тому +36

    4 stroke - less power, only gasoline, one oil for everything, more economic
    2 stroke - more power, gasoline and oil mix, separated oil for gearbox, funny engine clang

    • @kiwi4609
      @kiwi4609 4 роки тому

      Thanks

    • @jordansoboleski3992
      @jordansoboleski3992 4 роки тому

      2 stroke breaks like 24 7 tho 😂

    • @x91s55
      @x91s55 4 роки тому +2

      @@jordansoboleski3992 uhh i mean if you ride it hella hard yea then probably

    • @steve-o6115
      @steve-o6115 4 роки тому +2

      @@jordansoboleski3992 not really though

    • @jordansoboleski3992
      @jordansoboleski3992 4 роки тому +1

      @@x91s55 theyre still good dirt bikes i just ride hard asf😂

  • @raysmetaltracks6782
    @raysmetaltracks6782 4 роки тому +6

    Dude, you are a MONSTER on that 125!! You absolutely kill those corners - such an impressive ride! That 125 was screaming the entire lap, total ear candy. You make it look so easy - wish I had your skills my man!!

  • @blacklight4460
    @blacklight4460 5 років тому +1

    Pretty fair comparison! And damn fast! On the lighter 125 you used it's handling advantage with quicker transitions from upright to full lean. That gives you more line/cornering options in a crowded race. IMO, the light weight bikes are always more fun - and safer because you can save it easier when things get out of shape. Way to keep it pinned on both bikes!

  • @jeremycole32
    @jeremycole32 4 роки тому +12

    When it looks insane on video, you know it's absolutely insane in person.

  • @loadingerror7909
    @loadingerror7909 4 роки тому

    I love how consistent you are

  • @5tr41ghtGuy
    @5tr41ghtGuy 5 років тому +5

    450 of course pulls the 125 on the straits, but after that it's pretty much down to the rider.

  • @txrick4879
    @txrick4879 5 років тому +1

    Man hearing the 125 reminded me of my younger days . FULL SCREAM all the time.

  • @Eric_412
    @Eric_412 5 років тому +11

    Gee, I fell off 6 times during that video..totally awesome filming..

  • @johnthompson5302
    @johnthompson5302 5 років тому

    Boys and girls, that’s how you fucking send it on a 2-stroke! All that’s missing is a hypercolor t shirt and some Oakley blades and i would think we were back in the 90s again!!

  • @derickc663
    @derickc663 5 років тому +18

    I love the 125, but a CR250 would be perfect for your skill and speed Jeff! However, can't beat the fun of a 125!

    • @pawpawdave1
      @pawpawdave1 5 років тому +3

      lmao it requires more skill to ride a 125 effectively than it does a 250

    • @pawpawdave1
      @pawpawdave1 5 років тому

      WARLORD yes it does. more clutch work on a 125. doesn't have the same torque a 250 does

    • @Snas_Undertall
      @Snas_Undertall 3 роки тому

      Yeah, yah can beat the fun of the 125. It's called a 4 stroke

  • @riderguy327
    @riderguy327 5 років тому

    The low end carb issue only would of been noticed leaving the van... it was TAPED the whole time! Great video!!

  • @steelshotproductions
    @steelshotproductions 5 років тому +63

    Dude!!!! Those corners on the 125 though....... Absolute beast mode on the pipe in the corners.

    • @dieselgeezer18
      @dieselgeezer18 4 роки тому +2

      well, actually they were almost the same. The angry sound of the 2 stroke gives you the illusion that it goes faster in the corners. But thats why internal combustion engines are great. THAT AWESOME SOUND

    • @joshsilloway5933
      @joshsilloway5933 4 роки тому +1

      A dozen of potatos and a fat cat smelling them, he is 100% going faster, when he hits the power band its almost like a truck building boost

    • @banoodel5121
      @banoodel5121 4 роки тому

      Josh Silloway you just think he‘s going faster because he is slower going into the corner with the 125...

    • @joshsilloway5933
      @joshsilloway5933 4 роки тому

      Banoodel I didn’t say anything about the corner speed, I’m talking about the power band of 2 strokes, once they hit it it’s almost like a little hit of nitrous, 4 strokes have a night top speed but acceleration is a whole different story

    • @bigslatt708
      @bigslatt708 4 роки тому

      @@joshsilloway5933 u have to pin 2 strokes while 4 strokes it has all that bottem end power

  • @ryanroach4772
    @ryanroach4772 4 роки тому +1

    What people’s opinions are that they like 2 strokes but 4 strokes are faster because the tork you don’t need to rip around turns as fast to hit stuff

  • @vincentsauer99
    @vincentsauer99 5 років тому +77

    250f vs 450 would be also really interesting:D

    • @beauclose2235
      @beauclose2235 5 років тому +1

      250f and 125 2-t are similar power 250 have more mid and low end power while a 125 is top end all the way

    • @vincentsauer99
      @vincentsauer99 5 років тому +1

      @@beauclose2235 250f is faster than the 125. Question is by how much?

    • @beauclose2235
      @beauclose2235 5 років тому

      @@vincentsauer99 in my experience a 125 has a higher top speed but suffers on a tighter track on a more open track a 125 wins

    • @vincentsauer99
      @vincentsauer99 5 років тому +4

      @@beauclose2235 Never rode a 125 but technicaly the newer 250f has also more top end in raw HP.
      With the 150 sx it maybe would come close.
      In germany ur now allowed to race 250 2 strokes in the mx2 class. I think that sais alot.

    • @antonglonner4687
      @antonglonner4687 5 років тому

      @@vincentsauer99 yes, i Ride mx in germany and now i bought a 380 KTM 2stroke to Ride mx1

  • @queasyislander0274
    @queasyislander0274 4 роки тому +4

    God damn that 2 stroke sounds nice especially when hitting the powerband

    • @selltheoneonofferup3768
      @selltheoneonofferup3768 3 роки тому

      You gotta work on the top end all the time you gotta mix the gas spark plugs always fouling out 4 strokes provide Actual smooth power and more comfort. 4 strokes are the way to go

    • @selltheoneonofferup3768
      @selltheoneonofferup3768 3 роки тому

      Well, lets be honest, we are all riders. Don’t hate on 4 strokes when you ride 2 stroke. Don’t hate on 2 stroke when you ride 4 stroke. Create don’t hate!!

    • @selltheoneonofferup3768
      @selltheoneonofferup3768 3 роки тому

      People are never going to understand two strokes are always going to be faster than four stroke but four strokes are always going to feel better and be better at trail riding then two strokes

    • @queasyislander0274
      @queasyislander0274 3 роки тому

      @@selltheoneonofferup3768 dude are you ranting to me? Cuz nothing of what you said is anything smart 2 strokes are for balls to the walls rippin for real guys like me I have a banshee and 4 strokes are for low end woods rippin goofball

    • @selltheoneonofferup3768
      @selltheoneonofferup3768 3 роки тому

      @@queasyislander0274 What are you talking about truth jokes are only for real man boy have you seen how fast those four strokes go

  • @holmesteadready
    @holmesteadready 5 років тому +32

    Dude so much fun going for an onboard ride with you... I literally dream of riding like that haha

    • @fredc8618
      @fredc8618 5 років тому +2

      yes!!!! me too man!!!! wish I was 10% as good I cant even jump the thing

    • @stanleykeisha7465
      @stanleykeisha7465 5 років тому +3

      holmesteadready YOU CAN DO IT MAN, EVERYTHING TAKES TIME BUT EVENTUALLY YOU WILL GET THERE

    • @holmesteadready
      @holmesteadready 5 років тому

      @@stanleykeisha7465 haha I wish, I'm too old .. no time, too unfit, crashing takes me out for too long now too 😢

  • @DrewOg146
    @DrewOg146 3 роки тому

    Dude is always smooth just steady rippin! ✊🏼

  • @racerytplays5002
    @racerytplays5002 5 років тому +11

    Your so fast and so smooth!

  • @Nuklear420
    @Nuklear420 4 роки тому

    Gotta say I have never seen a van to store transport bikes that honestly pretty genius because they can’t get wet, they’re protected from all the elements and from being stolen, and it’s lower compared to the bed of a truck

  • @rossl9208
    @rossl9208 5 років тому +6

    I got captions on and whenever the bikes revs
    It’s writes MUSIC or APPLAUSE haha couldn’t agree more 🤙🏼😛

  • @negitivemc4238
    @negitivemc4238 5 років тому +1

    mark my words this video will be your channels grow source

  • @mynameiswrm
    @mynameiswrm 5 років тому +22

    The thing about 4 strokes is that you get ALL of the power, ALL the time. 2 strokes tend to have quick get up, but lack that bottom end power

    • @GojiGetsDown
      @GojiGetsDown 4 роки тому

      Rocky Maher i got a 125 and you’re so right there’s barley any low end power i have to be pinning it in every gear

    • @elimendelsohn8490
      @elimendelsohn8490 4 роки тому +1

      gojjjii get a 250 2 stroke problem solved, that’s what I did 😁

    • @Snas_Undertall
      @Snas_Undertall 3 роки тому

      @@elimendelsohn8490 or just get a 250 4 stroke... they're just better. They sound better, require lower maintenance, and are way, way faster

    • @sweetwolfasmraudio6726
      @sweetwolfasmraudio6726 3 роки тому +1

      @@Snas_Undertall sound is preference and the reason four strokes are cheaper to maintain is 2 strokes are high performance

    • @Snas_Undertall
      @Snas_Undertall 3 роки тому

      @@sweetwolfasmraudio6726 whatever

  • @larryproffer8603
    @larryproffer8603 5 років тому +7

    125's rule on tight tracks. The open bike is faster on longer tracks. IMHO.

  • @alexanderkretz3916
    @alexanderkretz3916 5 років тому +13

    Have any friends down that way with a modern 16+ KTM/Husky 125 you could borrow and lap time battle against the CR125? :P

    • @skylerhealyvlogs9642
      @skylerhealyvlogs9642 5 років тому +2

      @@noidontthinksolol exactly they are peices of overpriced garbage. 🤣🤮🤢

    • @kiwiridernz69
      @kiwiridernz69 5 років тому +1

      Ktms are shit, say goodbye to your triple clamp , huskys just blow up

    • @kadegeddes4879
      @kadegeddes4879 5 років тому +1

      Alexander Kretz anyone nit realize ktm are ahead they’ve had electric start and a hydro clutch for years so the money goes into research

    • @LilasTools
      @LilasTools 5 років тому

      KTM is the best for Enduro though.

    • @kiwiridernz69
      @kiwiridernz69 5 років тому

      @@LilasTools nah cr250's and cr500's are the kimg of enduro

  • @nathankoroush7918
    @nathankoroush7918 5 років тому +5

    Just the sound and the helmet cam video I would say the 125 smoker was faster.

  • @crispyw5169
    @crispyw5169 5 років тому +7

    should do a 250 2stroke vs 450 4stroke cuz they race in same category

  • @allan1353
    @allan1353 5 років тому

    this was a really good comparison. Kind makes me wonder how much different the lap times would be if it was against a 250f. I give you mad props you was ridding that 125 like it was made to :-)

  • @Hallfast
    @Hallfast 5 років тому +5

    Do a 250 2 stroke lap time comparison

  • @Snakeeyes9909
    @Snakeeyes9909 4 роки тому

    They say you can tell a good two stroke rider because they're on the pipe all the time. You were defiantly on the pipe all the time! Sounded wicked!!

  • @djjazzyjeff1232
    @djjazzyjeff1232 5 років тому +7

    The 125 sounds like you're absolutely ripping all the time even if the lap times don't quite reflect it lol.

    • @etaunknown4024
      @etaunknown4024 5 років тому +1

      Oh he is lol. Hes running that thing wfo the whole time. Hence the exact same lap times ;)

  • @danielnewman3441
    @danielnewman3441 5 років тому

    Loved this comparison. I have been debating what bike to get. i'm a 50+ rider. World of experience on two wheels. I am torn because the 125 is light and fun but the 450 will be more competitive. Perhaps not older guys mention that even with tons of experience the 450 can be a fight "wrestling the beast" and wear you out quicker than 125 arm pump. lol

    • @brentlankford2456
      @brentlankford2456 5 років тому +1

      I'm 47 and have both, get the 125, just get a brand new husky.

  • @damianhartman7647
    @damianhartman7647 5 років тому +9

    I hurts my heart how many people have zero clue what a two stroke is and is about, but it feels good people who don't know are getting fascinated with them and sharing videos makes my think more R&D will be put back into them and bring back the popularity AND THE CHEEPNESS TO MAINTAIN THEM back.

    • @prestonace2448
      @prestonace2448 3 роки тому +1

      I am a 4 stroke rider and I’ve always liked two strokes, what hurts my heart is that people just cant appreciate both the types of dirt bikes, in my honest opinion I prefer 4 strokes but 2 strokes will always have a place in my heart

  • @fayettefishingoutdoors8385
    @fayettefishingoutdoors8385 4 роки тому

    i am firm believer in a flywheel weight to improve cornering power. they are mainly used for trails but i feel it helps keep the rpm up long enough to get back on the pipe

  • @BladeBarn
    @BladeBarn 5 років тому +61

    like to see 450 vs 350 on that track

    • @nickdefreitas
      @nickdefreitas 5 років тому +3

      Yes this would be a great one!

    • @kalibmorganbrown4737
      @kalibmorganbrown4737 5 років тому +3

      Jeff would kill a 350 on his 450

    • @nickdefreitas
      @nickdefreitas 5 років тому +2

      @@noidontthinksolol haha... Well I still wanted to see as I think a 350 would be a good option for a 33 Yr old dad who does a little weekend warrior riding. A comparison with a 450 would be interesting to alot of C riders.

    • @alexholmes8451
      @alexholmes8451 5 років тому

      @@nickdefreitas got a 13 350xcf they are mean got bottom end torque like a 450 and good Rev like a 250

    • @zPrideful
      @zPrideful 5 років тому

      They are basically the same its just a 450 has alot more torque and bottom end than a 350 does. 450 makes alittle more horsepower but idk if its enough to matter.

  • @jayjo6160
    @jayjo6160 5 років тому

    man i cant wait to get a crf250. it will be my first motocross bike and i can hit jumps with no fear of crushing the downside

  • @CRAZYnayte2121
    @CRAZYnayte2121 5 років тому +12

    Why not do a 250 vs 450

    • @thatguyrides7072
      @thatguyrides7072 3 роки тому

      Thats exactly the same between a 125 2 stroke vs 450

  • @bdude1104
    @bdude1104 4 роки тому

    Love the way the 125 screams! And dude you sound almost just like boostedboi Kyle on boostedboiz channel haha

  • @joesgarage25
    @joesgarage25 5 років тому +4

    The weird looking jeep was for the swamp buggy races in Naples

  • @teribear45
    @teribear45 5 років тому +1

    Alot of people don't know this: usually, it depends on the rider for example, a kx 85 vs a rm85. They are the same speed. Maybe... The kx will win because of the rider

  • @jeanacooper9406
    @jeanacooper9406 4 роки тому +5

    Just imagine wiskey throttling on on of those thangs

  • @RedbackRecordz
    @RedbackRecordz 5 років тому

    That poor little 125 was screaming! Sick riding dude! Nice 👍 you certainly know how to make it look easy! Wish I could ride like that

  • @Not_Sure-2020
    @Not_Sure-2020 5 років тому +6

    Really? 450 vs 125? not like you're stacking the deck or anything. If you want an actual challenge, maybe a 250 2-stroke vs the 450?

    • @27Zangle
      @27Zangle 5 років тому

      Was for fun and to see the difference and how large a gap between the two. They explain this in the video.

  • @relevantinformation6655
    @relevantinformation6655 4 роки тому

    As an old rider who’s had bikes since the 70’s. A 450 4-stroke is is fun, but a 2 stroke... is all that plus, the craziness of harnessing a swarm of angry bees :))

  • @manuelsousa7593
    @manuelsousa7593 5 років тому +12

    Wrong comparison...
    Crf 450 R vs cr 250 R
    Crf 250 R vs cr 125 R

  • @valium4016
    @valium4016 5 років тому +2

    Lets admit, both are hella fast and thats all that matters :)

  • @_wellzy_5136
    @_wellzy_5136 5 років тому +3

    should of had a 250 vs 250 two strock battle

  • @brentlankford2456
    @brentlankford2456 5 років тому +2

    Well I knew I could come down to these comments and find all the smoker lovers defending to the end. Smokers are not faster, get over it, if they were, they would still be being used in the pro circuit. I just watched the Monster Energy supercross in Houston last week and I couldn't help but notice that the fastest bikes were 450 4 strokes. Yes, two strokes are lighter, yes two strokes are fun to ride, no, two strokes are not faster than 4 strokes. I saw one comment about how if it was a tighter track the 2-stroke would have won oh, that's nonsense, 450 has power throughout the band to come out of turns and hit jumps, two strokes don't, sorry. I own the exact same two bikes that they rode in this video, and I ride mine every weekend at 3 Palms in Houston. Now, with all that said, if I ever buy another new bike, I'm going to get a Husky 125 smoker.

    • @maverick44100
      @maverick44100 4 роки тому

      The main reason 2 strokes aren't the being used on the pro circuit today is the same reason they are not used on the GP road racing circuit it's because the Japanese factories primarily Honda wanted 4 strokes because that's what they were selling to the public .Soichiro Honda always hated 2 strokes it has nothing to do with the 4 strokes being faster remember motocross bikes were 4 strokes in the 60s until the 2 strokes rendered them uncompetitive but then they had to compete on an equal capacity basis .Honda tried desperately to compete with a 4 stroke in 500 cc GP road racing with the NR 500 an oval piston v4 with 8 carbies that revved to 20000 revs it was essentially a v8 and it was completely outclassed by the 4 cylinder 2 strokes it never looked liked winning a race . The 125 here is an old bike competing against a bike with nearly 4 times the capacity where all the development dollars have gone for the last 15 years. It's like saying let's get a 6 litre v8 NASCAR car with 800 hp and run it against an identical NASCAR car but put a 1.5 litre v8 in it with 250 hp and see if it can win.

    • @jeremiahrose5763
      @jeremiahrose5763 4 роки тому

      Not really.... 4 strokes require almost twice the displacement of a 2 stroke engine. A 250 two stroke vs. a 250 4 stroke would be like riding a 250cc 2 stroke against a 125cc 2 stroke. The engines are polar opposites, tons of torque off idle with a 4, while the 2 stroke is in it's power band when engine rpm is much higher.

  • @kiwiridernz69
    @kiwiridernz69 5 років тому +6

    Hondas just look so damn good

  • @aaronbligh7782
    @aaronbligh7782 3 роки тому

    Brilliant video. 👍✌️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🔥

  • @dr_snake6613
    @dr_snake6613 5 років тому +5

    Man you shred!

  • @0701jim
    @0701jim 5 років тому

    Sweet vid. Damn fast as well. Should do a 250 2 stroke vs 450 or maybe a 250 4 stroke vs 125 or even 250 4 stroke vs 250 2 stroke.

  • @billoddy1645
    @billoddy1645 5 років тому +4

    The fact they have to put a 125 against a 450 speeks volumes

    • @Dukerdr
      @Dukerdr 5 років тому

      Exactly. Now put him on a 250 2t with another 20 years developement and see what it would do against the heavier diesel...maybe pit a KTM 450f against a 300mx 2t. ;)

    • @paythepiper6283
      @paythepiper6283 5 років тому +2

      Meh. The 450 4 strokes were faster than the 500 2 strokes, hence they stopped making them. Its not about peak power, its about putting power to the ground. The new 2 strokes are a hoot, but you have to ride them flat out to get anywhere ( I ride enduros), but the four strokes, especially the big bores you can poke around in the mid range and still be as quick. Except through tight single trail. Having said that, I rode a kx 500 when I was about 16, couldnt keep the front end on the ground. Dunno whether I was excited or just shitting myself, and would have one in a heartbeat!

    • @billoddy1645
      @billoddy1645 5 років тому

      @@paythepiper6283 mate thats not what happened lol

    • @paythepiper6283
      @paythepiper6283 5 років тому +1

      @@billoddy1645 Um, yes it was. Lol. But I'd really like to hear what you think happened?

    • @billoddy1645
      @billoddy1645 5 років тому +1

      @@paythepiper6283 you want me to explain the history of motorcross? 250 2 stokes used to race 250 4 strokes but they would always get beat so they allowed upto 550cc for 4 stroke in the same catergory as 250 2 strokes which is why all the manufacturers said well ill just use a 4 stroke and make it quicker, hence why the boom in 4 stroke, so your wrong on why they stopped making them, and also your trying to tell me a 500 2t would get beat by a 450, you aint got a clue pal

  • @Carlos-mq9vo
    @Carlos-mq9vo 4 роки тому +1

    Better test would be 250cc two stroke vs 450 four stroke 👊🏻✊🏻💨

  • @lukasradzimski1033
    @lukasradzimski1033 5 років тому +8

    Will you once be able to ride a 500cc 2 stroke?

  • @joshpavelich5235
    @joshpavelich5235 5 років тому +2

    I've been riding a Ninja 300 for not quite a year and have no prior motorcycle experience but wow. The only reason I know you're good is from reading comments but watching the video I was blown away. Thats some crazy skill and I can absolutely understand how much of a workout riding like that must be. Massive props from Canada dude keep it on two wheels!

  • @liamaylward7656
    @liamaylward7656 5 років тому +8

    I feel bad for ur 125 haha

    • @JeffWalker84
      @JeffWalker84  5 років тому +17

      She likes it rough

    • @timmymallet3809
      @timmymallet3809 5 років тому +1

      Liam Aylward 125 probs last longer than the 450

    • @dean8067
      @dean8067 5 років тому +4

      @@timmymallet3809 Maybe in some alternative dimension where things are the opposite of what we have here

    • @timmymallet3809
      @timmymallet3809 5 років тому

      Dean Grimsell I don’t understand you

    • @etaunknown4024
      @etaunknown4024 5 років тому

      @@timmymallet3809 he said no, no it doesn't ever period end of story but made that boring statement a little more colorful in the process. You didn't happen to notice that the 450 was yawning about to fall asleep wondering when he was going to give it some gas but yet had faster lap times did you? The 125 was literally wide open the whole time hence the exact same times. So let me ask you this. If you have to constantly ride the 125 wide open just to get slower times than the 450 gets at half throttle, then which one do you think is going to last longer? If you say anything other than the 125 is going to blow up first then you obviously live in that alternate universe the other guy is talking about lol.

  • @100GTAGUY
    @100GTAGUY 4 роки тому +2

    Ah shit no way, I grew up right there in SWFL and low and behold I discovered this channel by chance a year after I moved away. Would've been dope to bump into you out there. Thanks for some random down home nostalgia man

  • @ayychance3129
    @ayychance3129 5 років тому +3

    The 2 stroke sounds like a swarm of angry hornets. The 4 just grumbles and growls some.

  • @davidw1634
    @davidw1634 4 роки тому +1

    How is that even a comparison
    It should be 250 two stroke vs 450 four stroke
    Or 125 two stroke vs 250 four stroke

  • @keithsmith5908
    @keithsmith5908 5 років тому +2

    I have a Kawasaki Kx125 and crf450. I get better times on the kx125 but at the same time I’m not as skilled as this guy and the 125 for me handles better because it’s so much lighter.

  • @warmachine9553
    @warmachine9553 5 років тому +2

    Put a methanol kit on that 125 screamer and test the difference. (if allowed in Murrica)

  • @psychotrucker9880
    @psychotrucker9880 5 років тому +2

    Next video....xr50 vs cr 500

  • @BLACK05GO1
    @BLACK05GO1 5 років тому

    I blew up my 125cc when riding it to the store (about 5 miles away) wide open on a 50 mph speed limit road. Not sure how fast I was going? It was stupid to keep the bike at its top speed for the amount of time I did. They are not meant to be ridden like that. But I really love the 125cc because its so light weight and you can just throw it around and fly off jumps like crazy.

  • @stevestewart6287
    @stevestewart6287 3 роки тому

    That track was made for big bore bikes, on a smaller tighter track that was not so fast the times would be closer.

  • @ghostofkyiv3422
    @ghostofkyiv3422 5 років тому +1

    What makes no sense is the hole 2 stroke vs 4 stroke debate is a 125 2 stroke vs a 250 4 stroke because they are in the same motocross class. So why compare a small displacement bike to a big displacement bike. If your going to make the comparison with a 450 you should use a 2 stroke 250

  • @davevowels7568
    @davevowels7568 4 роки тому +1

    250 2STROKE VS...450F.....PLEASE ...WITH ONLY 6 SECONDS OFF WITH THEE 125....WOULD BE EXCITING TO SEE YOU PINNING THE 250 2 STROKE ...ON TIME COMPARISON...AGAIN VS.....450F......GREAT VIDEO MANY THANKS !!!

  • @chancewindham1718
    @chancewindham1718 4 роки тому

    You ready to shred braaaah?! Shockem braaaa!! “Aye bruh, toss me another Monster bruh I gotta wash down this Red Bull brrrrrrraaaaauuuuuhhhh.” Lol I’m just fuckin with ya dude. Cool stuff. Love from Texas.

  • @adamdisarro4599
    @adamdisarro4599 5 років тому +1

    That thing is called a swamp buggy I drive them they are homemade looked up great vid

  • @Taliyon
    @Taliyon 5 років тому

    Those 125 laps were insane!