First of all can we get a round of applause for the camera work? Nellis Spotter EXCELLENT WORK from audio to the video! Second of all this is so crazy on a bunch of different levels. The airport is still operating with no tower.... why they need a tower? lol It has to be an weird feeling for the pilots to have to go back to their Cessna 152 days at small airports.
Actually the video has zero to do with the timing of the audio. This all occured in the 10pm hour not noon time as the video shows. But yes I agree the video help the visual of what it could have looked like two days ago. We had family coming back from Europe to LAS and was turned back after one of the employees had symptoms of the flu. When they left, it made the pilots fend for themselves.
@@TheNellisSpotter And I agree that you did a great job filming!! I sure miss seeing those beautiful mountains in the background especially with the sun shining on them!! Nice job. Thank you!! 1:40 Just gorgeous!! :)
If there's no tower, airport capacity is significantly reduced. For one thing, under IFR rules, only one aircraft can be on the approach at a time into an uncontrolled airport. To get more than one in, the pilot would have to cancel IFR before switching from final approach to CTAF; otherwise they cancel IFR once on the ground. The pilot can cancel IFR in the air once they have the airport in sight, but some airlines don't allow it. Either way, only when one aircraft has canceled IFR can the next aircraft shoot the approach. More aircraft can depart, but not as many as when the airport is towered, and they still have to wait for IFR release before they can go to the runway and take off.
@@michaelhampton6388 Not necessarily true. Very most airlines allow VFR operations if it is "operationally necessary". They can also depart VFR and pick up their clearance airborne. In theory you could handle the same traffic volume, however there is only one frequency and the amount of flights possible is pretty much capped by the amount of radio traffic on that frequency. Not making calls would also be legal but pretty crazy with airliners.
@@Mike25654 CTAF absolutely cannot handle the same volume as a well-controlled airport, even in VMC. Maybe a single-runway airport could get close, but McCarren has crossing runways; with proper control both can be used at very nearly full capacity, but that requires someone who has eyes on all of the aircraft involved providing positive control of each of them.
@@marklittle9913 You have to get a private license before you can get a commercial one. And since most flight schools are located on untowered airports, the odds that any given pilot has never flown into an uncontrolled field is very low. Not zero, of course, but low.
Admittedly traffic is way down, but big props to all of the pilots for dusting out the cobwebs and getting back to their small airport, general aviation roots!
seoceancrosser an airline owned by the CIA that transports CIA employees to and from Area 51 but is not officially recognized by any government agency.
@@Mctwis1 Of course they do lol, however, they don't need control over the light levels as, for the most part, they are near fully reliant on instrument rules, hence they don't need to brighten lights as its usually easy to spot and align for runways in IFR rules. However, VFR rely soley on their vision to the runway, hence they may need to brighton lights in order to amplify their view into a runway at night. However, at an airport such as McCarran, or any major aerodrome to be honest, there is no way pilots would control or manipulate lights, especially via frequency. Imagine a major airports amount of aircraft all changing the lights by pushing the mic button however many times, cahos on frequecy. Hence, it's only (rarely) used at VFR primary airports at night only, nothing like the video above shows.
@@cmaviation525 There is nobody on the tower though. It's really a valid question. On all medium sized airports I have flown to that went CTAF after ATC hours the lights were pilot operated as there was nobody else there to do it.
towert7 Speaking as a current Airbus Captain (319/320/321) we actually do tower closed ops a fair amount believe it or not (normally late at night with not a lot of traffic). It’s not the rule but it’s not unknown either. I’d certainly rather have ATC there looking for conflicts but thought you might appreciate the perspective.
JesseFlies Finally found you!!! Was that you flying one of those “southwest bound southwest “..... You should start another channel man! Miss your channel!
This was really cool. I loved watching the big boys handle a major international airport like the ga guys do at the smaller uncontrolled fields. Great job capturing it for the rest of us!
It’s rare but it does happen. Mostly happens when tower closes down for the night at an airport and the airfield becomes uncontrolled. The late night flights coming in past towers operating hours do this.
Yeah, that happens sometimes. There are even some airports with scheduled airline service where there is no tower (I don't know which ones are like that now, but I did get to observe a UNICOM radio operator doing his job at KOTH before they got their tower, when Horizon flew their Dash-8's into it). It's just surprising when you hear CTAF radio calls at an airport in the same league as YSSY, for Australian reference.
Theres plenty of them here in the US. Heres to name a few: KART, KOGS, KPBG, KBQK, KPIB, KHYS, KDIK, KCMX, KPLN, KPQI, KIMT, and many more that are served by CRJ 200s, ERj 145s and even A320s.
Flew in and out of Vegas on the 1st. Smooth flying and yes I was on Southwest!! Haha Poor airport looked like a ghost airport. 8 passengers on my first plane, 21 on my second. Pilots sound like they are using Unicom and I know controllers don't land the planes. Smooth operations either way! Thank You for sharing!
Heads up... 4 German F2 Typhoon with RAF KC3 Tanker (ZZ335) and German A400M (54+29) departed Nellis AFB en-route home. See my Instagram page witchdoctor_06 for picture.
Im a Retired LAS Controller. I honestly pray nothing goes wrong. This place has a tendency for everything weird to happen. All pilots should remain HYPER AWARE when operating in the Las Vegas Fishbowl!!!!
Can anyone explain to a European Guy what CTAF procedures mean in particular? I mean I have a rough idea, but this whole things sounds so interesting to me, that's why I want to know it in more detail. Cheers!
The pilot aren’t receiving information from the towers on where to go Etc. The pilots state over the radio what they are doing and the other pilots have to be aware.
Mark Little. Ok I’ll point it out to you. If you’re having troubles seeing the FOD, slow the video down to 25%, this should give a better look. You can stop and start the video too - and you will notice on the second touchdown, particles separate from the gear - and fly rearward from under the fuselage. Hope this helps.
@@BigDukeX I see that, I'm just not convinced that's tire material. That was by all accounts a relatively normal touchdown, and I see no deformation of the tire itself. I've never seen a tire lose "chunks" without total tread separation. Hard to be certain.
Would the pilots use the same separate frequencies for ground/approach/tower/departure? I'm just curious how the arriving traffic could hear the departing or ground traffic to know the runway is clear.
You obviously have no idea as to the traffic, IFR separation requirements, wake turbulence considerations, potential of two transport category aircraft ending up face to face on a taxiway..............The list is endless. This is unheard of and impressive.
Las Vegas Center was still in charge of spacing, vectors to and out of the airspace. The aircraft were only permitted onto approach or cleared to taxi after consulting Las Vegas Center. This is only the McCarren CTAF frequency. The radio calls were almost a formality and to inform any other aircraft in the McCarren's ditect vicinity and ground. No aircraft were allowed near that airport unless LV Center was certain no chance of conflict between aircraft. Many, many small airports handle traffic just fine without a control tower. Some small uncontrolled airports even have comparable numbers of flight operations to mid sized controlled airports.
Example: my local airport was actually rated as having a higher number of daily operations than Tampa Int'l despite having no control tower. Of course, wake turbulence rarely is an issue, but pilots know how to not run into each other on taxiways without big sis ever guiding their ever move. This is why I love the one SWA pilot who made certain to announce 24L as the 'active runway' in case anyone had doubts. Aviators adapt and improvise and can figure out which way the wind blows without the all seeing eye being ever-present.
Yes, the most impressive example I saw on our trip around the world in Kununurra. We self announced on CTAF, and due to the wind and local settings it was not that obvous which direction to use. On final we perceived a commuter jet sized aircraft at the other end of the runway, who responded to our radio announcement to be on final by acknowledging that he was waiting for us before taking off in the opposite direction. Worked perfectly. Tower was unmanned anyway, and the terminal started closing down when that Embraer 175 (or 195?) had taken off. Small remote GA hub with very little large commercial traffic.
Who else remembers when the solo Tower Controller in RNO fell asleep for 30+ minutes and everyone used CTAF procedures? These pilots fly in-and-out of these airports all the time, they know the natural flow of traffic
Carl Hursh We use CTAF at airports with closed towers much more than you’d expect on the domestic narrowbody side of the house. It’s normally late at night after the tower is closed though there a few uncontrolled airports out there where we’re regular visitors (e.g. HDN).
My flight got canceled the 19th leaving McCarran and when I asked why no one had an answer. I guess this explains that. Made a different flight same day so still got home which was most important. But now I know why they weren’t telling us why
Meh. They did this when getting their PPL and many do it on the weekends. Just the planes are bigger, but the responsibility and radio calls are the same.
Omari Joseph We use CTAF all the time speaking as a narrowbody Airbus Captain. Normally it’s at night after the tower is closed, though there are some uncontrolled fields served with big jets (e.g. HDN).
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First of all can we get a round of applause for the camera work? Nellis Spotter EXCELLENT WORK from audio to the video! Second of all this is so crazy on a bunch of different levels. The airport is still operating with no tower.... why they need a tower? lol It has to be an weird feeling for the pilots to have to go back to their Cessna 152 days at small airports.
Actually the video has zero to do with the timing of the audio. This all occured in the 10pm hour not noon time as the video shows. But yes I agree the video help the visual of what it could have looked like two days ago. We had family coming back from Europe to LAS and was turned back after one of the employees had symptoms of the flu. When they left, it made the pilots fend for themselves.
@@TheNellisSpotter
And I agree that you did a great job filming!! I sure miss seeing those beautiful mountains in the background especially with the sun shining on them!! Nice job. Thank you!!
1:40 Just gorgeous!! :)
If there's no tower, airport capacity is significantly reduced. For one thing, under IFR rules, only one aircraft can be on the approach at a time into an uncontrolled airport. To get more than one in, the pilot would have to cancel IFR before switching from final approach to CTAF; otherwise they cancel IFR once on the ground. The pilot can cancel IFR in the air once they have the airport in sight, but some airlines don't allow it. Either way, only when one aircraft has canceled IFR can the next aircraft shoot the approach. More aircraft can depart, but not as many as when the airport is towered, and they still have to wait for IFR release before they can go to the runway and take off.
@@michaelhampton6388 Not necessarily true. Very most airlines allow VFR operations if it is "operationally necessary". They can also depart VFR and pick up their clearance airborne.
In theory you could handle the same traffic volume, however there is only one frequency and the amount of flights possible is pretty much capped by the amount of radio traffic on that frequency. Not making calls would also be legal but pretty crazy with airliners.
@@Mike25654 CTAF absolutely cannot handle the same volume as a well-controlled airport, even in VMC. Maybe a single-runway airport could get close, but McCarren has crossing runways; with proper control both can be used at very nearly full capacity, but that requires someone who has eyes on all of the aircraft involved providing positive control of each of them.
I'm curious how many pilots shed a tear in realizing how far they've gone from their days when CTAF was their norm.
Or how many of them were terrified at never operating without a tower before. Only those from the GA ranks would find this nostalgic.
@@marklittle9913 Don't be surprised if many of them are still in active in GA and only shake their heads in disbelieve...
Yeah, it's crazy how we went from absolute freedom to getting a call once you are a few degrees of course.
@@marklittle9913 You have to get a private license before you can get a commercial one. And since most flight schools are located on untowered airports, the odds that any given pilot has never flown into an uncontrolled field is very low. Not zero, of course, but low.
Lmao this is literally VATSIM when the ATC went for dinner with 20 flights departing and landing
there it is, the VATSIM comment i was looking for
😂
IRL Vatsim LOL pretty much
Southwest departing southwest
Oh so that’s why this movie is called that
Admittedly traffic is way down, but big props to all of the pilots for dusting out the cobwebs and getting back to their small airport, general aviation roots!
What big props? I don't see any big props.
That's what I was thinking. I'm sure some are still active in GA, but a lot of them probably hadn't flown into an untowered airport in years.
McCarran Traffic, Allegiant 321 departing 26 staying in the pattern, left traffic, touch and go, McCarran
That comment is simultaneously scary and very funny! In a figurative way, it sounds like it MUST have been very "touch and go". Thanks for sharing!
Any traffic in the area, please advise. 😂😂😂😂
SportPilotPR LOL You win!! 🤣🤣🤣
Prob has been years since most of these guys have been in and out of untowered airports 😳😳
I’m dead 😂
Meanwhile, JANET makes no radio calls because technically the airline is nonexistent
Then the pilot is flying Part 91 and still makes radio calls
Christopher Lewis funny I heard them lol
Who are they?
seoceancrosser an airline owned by the CIA that transports CIA employees to and from Area 51 but is not officially recognized by any government agency.
Immanuel J nope
Surprised ATPs still know the correct way to talk on CTAF.
It you are really interested in it you never "forget". As soon as you start to forget you learn it again.
Most commercial pilots have their own private aircraft, and they’ll regularly fly it in and out of uncontrolled airports.
Allegiant finally get a chance to land with their radios inop.
Julian B 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Did they have to click their mics.to turn runway lights higher at night?
Uhhhh What?
@@cmaviation525 UhHh thats a valid question, some airports lights are pilot operated
@@JiovanyLouisbosslife I know that's almost always VFR ops only as they don't rely on instruments, wouldn't be something at mccarran.
@@Mctwis1 Of course they do lol, however, they don't need control over the light levels as, for the most part, they are near fully reliant on instrument rules, hence they don't need to brighten lights as its usually easy to spot and align for runways in IFR rules. However, VFR rely soley on their vision to the runway, hence they may need to brighton lights in order to amplify their view into a runway at night. However, at an airport such as McCarran, or any major aerodrome to be honest, there is no way pilots would control or manipulate lights, especially via frequency. Imagine a major airports amount of aircraft all changing the lights by pushing the mic button however many times, cahos on frequecy. Hence, it's only (rarely) used at VFR primary airports at night only, nothing like the video above shows.
@@cmaviation525 There is nobody on the tower though. It's really a valid question.
On all medium sized airports I have flown to that went CTAF after ATC hours the lights were pilot operated as there was nobody else there to do it.
The general public - "But doesn't the control tower guide you in?" Ah no, no they don't.
Just wait until the TRACON or center shut down due to illness.
Controllers be like "They took our jobsss!!!"
*tower is closed*
pilots- "hold my beer"
Funny to think that some of these pilots haven’t operated at a non-controller field in the greater part of 30 years 😂
Bringing those pilots back. Must feel a little refreshing.
Damn. you have to go back to basics in your DAL 767. This is unreal....
Requesting permission for flyby.
Negative, ghost rider. The pattern is full.
Glad to see pilots getting it done! I bet for a lot of them it's been a while since they had to do a CTAF call.
Their just glad they are flying.
towert7 Speaking as a current Airbus Captain (319/320/321) we actually do tower closed ops a fair amount believe it or not (normally late at night with not a lot of traffic). It’s not the rule but it’s not unknown either. I’d certainly rather have ATC there looking for conflicts but thought you might appreciate the perspective.
@@HEDGE1011 Which airports do you commonly see that at?
@@philipmcniel4908 regional airports after 10PM or Midnight normally go uncontrolled until around 6 or 7 AM
@@philmontejano5971 they're, not their
122.8 on Vatsim be like:
No further ATC available, monitor UNICOM on 122.8.
Excellent quality video. Beautiful scenery too.
5:13 V1
5:15 Ro-tat-ay
This is like real life vatsim where tower, ground, delivery, and approach are all closed!
That's what I said, too.
ALL TRAFFIC ON FREQUENCY BE ADVISED! TOWER LOGGING OFF IN 5 MINUTES. CONTACT APPROACH ON 128.95!
All stations, all stations, Warszawa Radar is closing, monitor Unicom 122.800.
Amrick Dhillon yea, right.
Amrick Dhillon 122.800 lol
Found your video linked on a pro pilot forum. Thanks for the great shots and accompanying audio.
JesseFlies
Finally found you!!!
Was that you flying one of those “southwest bound southwest “.....
You should start another channel man!
Miss your channel!
Thanks for including the audio. Nicely done. (Did they finally get the fence fixed on Sunset near Eastern where the truck ran into it?)
@@TheNellisSpotter No problem. If I ever get to go back to work, I'll let ya know. :^) Stay healthy!
@@slidewaze I believe so. It could have been that I just missed it
This was really cool. I loved watching the big boys handle a major international airport like the ga guys do at the smaller uncontrolled fields. Great job capturing it for the rest of us!
Many small regional airports in Australia are CTAF for scheduled airliners ... is that the same in the US ?
johnpro2 Occasionally, but mainly on a regional level. I’ve yet to ever see a Class B airport turn into an E
It’s rare but it does happen. Mostly happens when tower closes down for the night at an airport and the airfield becomes uncontrolled. The late night flights coming in past towers operating hours do this.
Yeah, that happens sometimes. There are even some airports with scheduled airline service where there is no tower (I don't know which ones are like that now, but I did get to observe a UNICOM radio operator doing his job at KOTH before they got their tower, when Horizon flew their Dash-8's into it). It's just surprising when you hear CTAF radio calls at an airport in the same league as YSSY, for Australian reference.
Theres plenty of them here in the US. Heres to name a few:
KART, KOGS, KPBG, KBQK, KPIB, KHYS, KDIK, KCMX, KPLN, KPQI, KIMT, and many more that are served by CRJ 200s, ERj 145s and even A320s.
If I lived near Vegas I’d be the GA pilot making touch & gos for the fun of it.
Pretty sure that happened a few weeks ago in (Chicago?) and the FAA jumped on that pretty quickly
This must be a very cool experience for pilots!
Overheard from one flight......"Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking!".
This is what competence looks like, amazing! Only possible with pilots in America who came up through GA
Unicom has been around forever, interesting video.
It’s very abandoned, shows the true affect on aviation. Great spotting I must say
effect
Flew in and out of Vegas on the 1st. Smooth flying and yes I was on Southwest!! Haha Poor airport looked like a ghost airport. 8 passengers on my first plane, 21 on my second.
Pilots sound like they are using Unicom and I know controllers don't land the planes. Smooth operations either way!
Thank You for sharing!
I see the German Air Force is returning home from Red Flag 20-2.
Heads up... 4 German F2 Typhoon with RAF KC3 Tanker (ZZ335) and German A400M (54+29) departed Nellis AFB en-route home. See my Instagram page witchdoctor_06 for picture.
Update 4 more German F2 Typhoon with RAF KC3 Tanker (ZZ338).
Myke we did not use RAF tankers to leave Nellis. USAF KC10s out of KBGR though. That must have been the Italians or the Spanish Typhoons.
That happened to NYTRACON recently , same reason , but before MCCARRAN , CHEERS FROM NJ🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Most of these ATPL must be thinking I havent use this terminology since their Cessna days
Big kids havin’ fun🤣
McCarran Ford Utility 8, taking off on runway 6 left ...
V1.......VVVV1........VVVVVVVVVV1!!!!
Very cool. Thanks.
Im a Retired LAS Controller. I honestly pray nothing goes wrong. This place has a tendency for everything weird to happen. All pilots should remain HYPER AWARE when operating in the Las Vegas Fishbowl!!!!
thank god for SIDs and STARs
Thank you for sharing sir.
That is SURREAL
Amazing how well I worked
Can anyone explain to a European Guy what CTAF procedures mean in particular? I mean I have a rough idea, but this whole things sounds so interesting to me, that's why I want to know it in more detail.
Cheers!
ulli15100 uncontrolled airfield procedures
The pilot aren’t receiving information from the towers on where to go Etc. The pilots state over the radio what they are doing and the other pilots have to be aware.
Wow! This is really cool!
Way to keep it going!
Okay, but can we talk about the Southwest at 5:45 that BOUNCED the landing?
Ian Blegen also delta at 3:57
Ian Blegen That was a super mild bounce, the delta earlier had a much bigger one and even then that happens fairly often
Southwest is going to be southwest bound ......Hahaha hahaha :)
when your on vatsim and tower isnt online
Must be absolute chaos for those Pilots!
seems like they pretty chill
I remember when we were using CTAF while flying a Piper Cherokee
YES this is what I NEEDED!
Most large airfields have 2-3 Control towers, surprised they didn't just bring some others in and use a separate tower.
No they don’t, not for tower operations
Damn impressive
Who else was waiting for that cop car to rotate
It’s back open thankfully
Oooof! that landing at 3:55... bits of the tire flying off after the second bounce.
Huh? No, no there wasn't.
Yes there was.... look carefully. The Tire on the starboard main separated on the second touchdown.
@@BigDukeX I've watched several times, I see nothing out of the ordinary. the DL 737 - correct? Where are you seeing the tread?
Mark Little. Ok I’ll point it out to you. If you’re having troubles seeing the FOD, slow the video down to 25%, this should give a better look. You can stop and start the video too - and you will notice on the second touchdown, particles separate from the gear - and fly rearward from under the fuselage. Hope this helps.
@@BigDukeX I see that, I'm just not convinced that's tire material. That was by all accounts a relatively normal touchdown, and I see no deformation of the tire itself. I've never seen a tire lose "chunks" without total tread separation. Hard to be certain.
It’s probably been a minute since those pilots had to say those ATC commands 😂
Oh nice plane spotting videos
Would the pilots use the same separate frequencies for ground/approach/tower/departure? I'm just curious how the arriving traffic could hear the departing or ground traffic to know the runway is clear.
I grew up doing exactly what there doing here, as long as the traffic docent overwhelm the approach departure control at center there fine
very interesting how they do that
This reminds the movie "The Langoliers"...
Im surprised they didnt sanitize the stations and let the USAF run it for awhile.
Love it, just like the little guys
Back to the basics!
Can you imagine this scenario occurring in Europe? I can't either.
Imagine this happening London Heathrow 😂
Cruiser 8 reaching VR on that road.
I knew it all this IVAO/VATSIM "training" would eventually work someday (it's a joke guys... Just kidding!!)
Did anyone do a 360 before taking the active?
Most airports on the planet run without towers all or some of the day or week.
You obviously have no idea as to the traffic, IFR separation requirements, wake turbulence considerations, potential of two transport category aircraft ending up face to face on a taxiway..............The list is endless. This is unheard of and impressive.
@@5broadcast5 only doable with a reduced flight schedule like this.
Las Vegas Center was still in charge of spacing, vectors to and out of the airspace. The aircraft were only permitted onto approach or cleared to taxi after consulting Las Vegas Center. This is only the McCarren CTAF frequency. The radio calls were almost a formality and to inform any other aircraft in the McCarren's ditect vicinity and ground.
No aircraft were allowed near that airport unless LV Center was certain no chance of conflict between aircraft. Many, many small airports handle traffic just fine without a control tower. Some small uncontrolled airports even have comparable numbers of flight operations to mid sized controlled airports.
Example: my local airport was actually rated as having a higher number of daily operations than Tampa Int'l despite having no control tower. Of course, wake turbulence rarely is an issue, but pilots know how to not run into each other on taxiways without big sis ever guiding their ever move. This is why I love the one SWA pilot who made certain to announce 24L as the 'active runway' in case anyone had doubts. Aviators adapt and improvise and can figure out which way the wind blows without the all seeing eye being ever-present.
Yes, the most impressive example I saw on our trip around the world in Kununurra. We self announced on CTAF, and due to the wind and local settings it was not that obvous which direction to use. On final we perceived a commuter jet sized aircraft at the other end of the runway, who responded to our radio announcement to be on final by acknowledging that he was waiting for us before taking off in the opposite direction. Worked perfectly. Tower was unmanned anyway, and the terminal started closing down when that Embraer 175 (or 195?) had taken off. Small remote GA hub with very little large commercial traffic.
Took those pilots back to their PPL training days.
ive seen it all now
Who really needs a tower controller anyway!
So awesome
cant they find a guy from the night shift?? after they have sanitized the tower
fyi at least 75% of theses pilots own their own GA planes and fly when they aren't working.
Honestly my flight school’s radio seems worse than this lol.
great video
These commercial airline pilots are thinking that here they are back in flight school again flying single engine piston pounders!
I'm surprised these guys still remember uncontrolled ops hahah
nice
ATP Pilot - Taking active runway
Me - Yup they haven't done this in awhile. No such thing as active runway at uncontrolled airports.
Who else remembers when the solo Tower Controller in RNO fell asleep for 30+ minutes and everyone used CTAF procedures? These pilots fly in-and-out of these airports all the time, they know the natural flow of traffic
Easy I know that guy........
The one time I flew into RNO, I had the one controller on approach, tower, and ground. "Cleared for the approach, taxi to parking..."
Jesus this is strange.
So this is what it's like flying unicom IRL
Delta a321 or 757 just gave no fucks with the radio coming in and departing the airfield
I don’t know why this was recommended but my flight was canceled 4 times and I finally flew out of McCarren on the 23rd
We dont need no stinking towers!
why was the 340 there of the German Air Force
Who would have ever thought Airline Pilots would have to go back to using GA procedures. 😏
Carl Hursh We use CTAF at airports with closed towers much more than you’d expect on the domestic narrowbody side of the house. It’s normally late at night after the tower is closed though there a few uncontrolled airports out there where we’re regular visitors (e.g. HDN).
My flight got canceled the 19th leaving McCarran and when I asked why no one had an answer. I guess this explains that. Made a different flight same day so still got home which was most important. But now I know why they weren’t telling us why
This is infinite flight training server
Imagine this at JFK
At some rare occasions there is a VFR flight to Laguardia with a commercial airliner.
COVID HAS MADE A HISTOY!!
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must have been very tense or a bit stressful...they are NOT used to this at all...
Meh. They did this when getting their PPL and many do it on the weekends. Just the planes are bigger, but the responsibility and radio calls are the same.
Omari Joseph We use CTAF all the time speaking as a narrowbody Airbus Captain. Normally it’s at night after the tower is closed, though there are some uncontrolled fields served with big jets (e.g. HDN).
Just imagine if every CTAF had pilots talking like that with no bs!
What ? We can dream…
bad ass