Great idea and video explanation. I believe you would achieve a 2:1 mechanical advantage on lifting that Kayak if you used one rope through the 2 pulleys.
Thanks! You are right. I may revisit this with 1 rope. At the time I committed to the 2 rope idea I was trying to overcome the sliding out of under the kayaks. The rubber mat addressed that, but I was already using 2 ropes then.
Excellent video, you covered everything from what parts and where to purchase along with screen shots of Harbor Freight kit. Good job walking the viewers through installation. you solved my problem.
It’s possible that could work. Two reasons it may not work though, contact at only 2 points may cause it to flip/rotate. Unless I have something to keep the hooks from continuing to spread beyond the nose and transom (which I did add in the video), it would most likely just keep spreading and slip off. If you’re wanting to give this a shot, try that out first.
@@SammyBenitez It works pretty well with just the hooks. I definitely should have run separate lines for each end of the kayak though instead of using the bike hanger as it comes. It doesn’t want to raise evenly with only one line.
OC Run I’m not an expert on pulleys, but if I pull 10ft of rope, it only raises 10ft. According to the calculation of Mechanical Advantage this is still a 1:1, and if I routed the rope as the kit intended it would be a 2:1.
@@SammyBenitez I can see in your video that each rope drops from a fixed pulley to a pulley at the kayak and then back up to a fixed attachment at the ceiling. If you measure the rope you'll see that every foot of rope you pull is divided 6 inches on the side down to the pulley on the kayak and 6 inches up to the ceiling on the other side of it. That's 2:1. And if you continued rigging to the other side with the same rope it would be another 2:1 for a total of 4:1. The efficiency of those pulleys will significantly affect the force you need to apply but not the length of rope you'll pull. Measure the distance from the bottom of the hull while suspended as you have it to the floor. Double that length and that will be exactly how much rope you let out to lower to the ground
OC Run yeah I see what you mean, I agree. It would be 2:1 as is and 4:1 as one rope. I tried the 4:1 system initially (prior to adding the rubber to the straps) and the kayak would slide off the straps. Making it 2 was my attempt to control each side instead of letting it dive and slide off.
@@SammyBenitez it's hard to balance weight where the moving pulleys are far apart. You solved the slipping part with the rubber mats and rope to prevent the spreading. If you try again just remember that the moving pulleys will adjust to move the side with the least amount of weight. You have to perfectly balance them. Even then, if your rope has any stretch it will cause unevenness.
OC Run - Thanks, this is great info about how the pulleys work and the need to balance the weight. I’ve watched several videos using this bike system and most didn’t seem to have an issue with balance but now I wonder if it was luck or knowledge. Guess I’ll have to do some figuring before I install one for my yak...
@@SammyBenitez Thank you. I'll try to bend them this weekend. I copied your full set up in my garage to lift and store our cartop ski box. It worked great. Thanks for sharing.
@@johndombrosky412 I’ve done it with my new 75lb set up. Should be fine. You could always work the pulleys to get a better ratio, I just had a hard time getting it to lift both sides evenly so I stuck with the method mentioned in the video.
jay it’s been a while since the install. IIRC, with the one rope system (as the kit intended) the kayak slants significantly to one side while pulling up, causing it to slide off. I decided on the 2 rope system before I added those rubber pieces to the straps to hold it in place. It’s possible it would work with one rope now.
I tried one line and when I would lift the kayak would slide off the straps (prior to adding the rubber mat). Making it 2 was an attempt to control each side instead of letting it dive and slide off. It’s possible that now with the rubber I could do 1 and have no sliding issues as well as have a 4:1 pulley instead of the 2:1 I created.
I followed this video to make two kayak lifts in my garage and I couldn’t have done it without you. Thanks!
I need to find more spots to add another 1 or two myself… lol.
Thanks for the idea, I’m going to get the supplies today. My son has two kayaks.
Try putting a pool noodle around the straps instead of that rubber mat.
The pool noodle will stick to the kayak and also add cushion as support...
Great idea and video explanation. I believe you would achieve a 2:1 mechanical advantage on lifting that Kayak if you used one rope through the 2 pulleys.
Thanks! You are right. I may revisit this with 1 rope. At the time I committed to the 2 rope idea I was trying to overcome the sliding out of under the kayaks. The rubber mat addressed that, but I was already using 2 ropes then.
Great feedback on where to get materials and how to install system, thannks!
Just finished setting up a modified version of this. Thanks for the video, super helpful.
Glad it helped accomplish your end goal
Excellent video! Clearly explained. You got straight to the point. Thanks!
Thanks I'm going to use this for summer storage AWESOME!!❤
Excellent video, you covered everything from what parts and where to purchase along with screen shots of Harbor Freight kit. Good job walking the viewers through installation. you solved my problem.
Glad it had the info you needed! Still using this system, wouldn’t have it any other way.
Wow cool now time for mine. 👌👍Guernsey boy.
Very good job!!! Bravo!
Just curious. Is there a reason the hooks on the pulley system wouldn’t work out just hooked to the carry handles on each end of a kayak?
It’s possible that could work. Two reasons it may not work though, contact at only 2 points may cause it to flip/rotate. Unless I have something to keep the hooks from continuing to spread beyond the nose and transom (which I did add in the video), it would most likely just keep spreading and slip off.
If you’re wanting to give this a shot, try that out first.
@@SammyBenitez It works pretty well with just the hooks. I definitely should have run separate lines for each end of the kayak though instead of using the bike hanger as it comes. It doesn’t want to raise evenly with only one line.
Awesome thanks 🎉
It's not 1:1, it's 2:1. It would be 4:1 if you didn't use 2 separate ropes.
OC Run I’m not an expert on pulleys, but if I pull 10ft of rope, it only raises 10ft. According to the calculation of Mechanical Advantage this is still a 1:1, and if I routed the rope as the kit intended it would be a 2:1.
@@SammyBenitez I can see in your video that each rope drops from a fixed pulley to a pulley at the kayak and then back up to a fixed attachment at the ceiling. If you measure the rope you'll see that every foot of rope you pull is divided 6 inches on the side down to the pulley on the kayak and 6 inches up to the ceiling on the other side of it. That's 2:1. And if you continued rigging to the other side with the same rope it would be another 2:1 for a total of 4:1. The efficiency of those pulleys will significantly affect the force you need to apply but not the length of rope you'll pull. Measure the distance from the bottom of the hull while suspended as you have it to the floor. Double that length and that will be exactly how much rope you let out to lower to the ground
OC Run yeah I see what you mean, I agree. It would be 2:1 as is and 4:1 as one rope.
I tried the 4:1 system initially (prior to adding the rubber to the straps) and the kayak would slide off the straps. Making it 2 was my attempt to control each side instead of letting it dive and slide off.
@@SammyBenitez it's hard to balance weight where the moving pulleys are far apart. You solved the slipping part with the rubber mats and rope to prevent the spreading. If you try again just remember that the moving pulleys will adjust to move the side with the least amount of weight. You have to perfectly balance them. Even then, if your rope has any stretch it will cause unevenness.
OC Run - Thanks, this is great info about how the pulleys work and the need to balance the weight. I’ve watched several videos using this bike system and most didn’t seem to have an issue with balance but now I wonder if it was luck or knowledge. Guess I’ll have to do some figuring before I install one for my yak...
Now i have room for all this garbage! hahaha Thanks for the video, it was helpful!
What method or tools did you use to bend the hooks that you reference at 2:54?
I used channel locks. You could probably also use a hammer/mallet and the ground to achieve the same. Thanks for watching!
@@SammyBenitez Thank you. I'll try to bend them this weekend. I copied your full set up in my garage to lift and store our cartop ski box. It worked great. Thanks for sharing.
Will your system work on a 90 lb. kayak?
@@johndombrosky412 I’ve done it with my new 75lb set up. Should be fine. You could always work the pulleys to get a better ratio, I just had a hard time getting it to lift both sides evenly so I stuck with the method mentioned in the video.
Would this idea work to get my pedal boat from roof of RV ?
Inside an RV? Maybe up to the ceiling, not sure how to use this to get on the roof
Great video, thank you!
Great 👍
The kit looks like it uses one rope for pulling the bike/kayak up. Why did you re-do it for having two ropes to pull? Thanks!
jay it’s been a while since the install. IIRC, with the one rope system (as the kit intended) the kayak slants significantly to one side while pulling up, causing it to slide off.
I decided on the 2 rope system before I added those rubber pieces to the straps to hold it in place. It’s possible it would work with one rope now.
Why two separate ropes?
Will this hold a 12’ kayak
Definitely, just modify the size to fit your set up. I’m using the same configuration to hold my Crescent CK1 now
It’s $13 if you already own the expensive stuff! 😂 jk good vid man!
Need an update on how much more garbage you were able to collect!
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You look like Fleccas Talks.
looks like flair
You only need one line make it simple
I tried one line and when I would lift the kayak would slide off the straps (prior to adding the rubber mat). Making it 2 was an attempt to control each side instead of letting it dive and slide off.
It’s possible that now with the rubber I could do 1 and have no sliding issues as well as have a 4:1 pulley instead of the 2:1 I created.
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