Whats Next? Restoring My Victorian Home
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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Completed Projects (2021): New Roof, New Water Service, New Windows (Partial), Boiler Work, Sewer Lateral, Tuckpointing, Plaster Repair (Partial), Wood Floors (Partial), Electric Service (Partial)
Projects to Complete in 2022: Limestone Restoration of Front Elevation, Rebuild Mansard, New Windows (Partial), Complete Plaster Work (2nd Floor and Back Hallway 1st Floor, Kitchen and Dining Room), Plumbing Stacks and Rough in Plumbing, Complete Electric, HVAC (Basement and 1st Floor), High Velocity AC and Heat (2nd Floor), Mini Splits (3rd Floor), Framing on 3rd Floor, Rebuild of Front Cornice Work and Copper Gutter System, Rebuilding of Dormers
As a commercial property manager I can assure you flat roofs are a headache. Snow sits up there and as it melts the water will find any micro seam opening to leak in. You'd be better off with a gabled roof, which wouldn't look as modern as hipped roof, and you'll have an attic for storage. Just my opinion...
Was just going to comment the same thing! Unless you live somewhere extremely dry, flat roofs are a definite no-no. If you get snow, ever more reason to avoid them. There's a very good reason why they were almost never used outside of certain areas of the Middle East and Africa until the architectural madness of the modern era.
I live in a Victorian property that's been converted to flats. They replaced part of the original pitched roof with a flat one so they could fit more flats in the attic space. It's the only part of the roof that leaks and is a maintenance nightmare. The rest of the original building fabric is still going strong 150 years later.
Absolutely!
Flat roofs do not belong in a climate that ever has snow.
Never ever.
Agreed!
Flat roofs are common in old St Louis, because they were cheaper, but they are ugly.
I wonder if the garages paneled bay doors started life as pocket doors?
As the daughter of a roofer I have only heard that a flat roof, especially in a place that gets snow, is a huge headache.
It will never, not be a headache.
The reason is the freeze/thaw cycle.
Snow does not slide off flat surfaces.
Only when it melts.
When it begins to melt, the surface that it is on, usually does not become dry.
So now there is moisture sitting in some cracks that now get to freeze.
This happens every day that there is moisture.
Ice is very powerful. Any Crack, no matter how thin , now becomes wider.
Eventually that Crack breaks through and you now have a leak.
I hope you don't mind me sharing but I just wanted to say that watching you slowly work on this house over the last several years has not only been entertaining and educational, but it's also done a lot for my mental health. Due to depression, I often end up letting chores build up until they seem like such an overwhelming task. It used to feel pointless to me to do a tiny bit of a big project, and if I started something and couldn't finish it, I would get so down on myself. But watching you chip away at your tasks bit by bit made me rethink how I approached things. When I have 2 minutes, I'll wipe something down or pick something up and it's just made such a world of difference not just for the cleanliness of my house but for my own self confidence. I can't thank you enough..
Totally understand. I have 3 loads of laundry in baskets in the living room. Chipping away while watching videos like this.
I agree and understand what you are talking about.
It’s so nice that watching these videos helps to motivate you & makes you feel better. Whatever helps.
I get it. Thank you for sharing ❤
A flat roof anywhere is a disaster, water just sits on top and long term just rots ❤
flats roofs are never really flat. there is an angle to them so that water sheds.
@@The2ndEmpireStrikesBack - 1:12 pitch is commonly called flat, yet it is not. There are actually very few flat roofs as that is bad. Having good drainage, preferrably to storm sewer, can make a 1:12 pitch work well.
No no flat roof It will cause you more problems after the first five years than you’ve ever seen in your life do the 12 one pitch you’ll be much happier and a lot less problems.
Flat is just asking for water/snow trouble. You can still have it "look" mostly flat with enough pitch to move the water along.
Yes, I had a flat roof house "once upon a time" and it was a really bad idea.
Agreed. Ask anyone who has ever owned a Frank Lloyd Wight home with a flat roof. The question is not, “Does it leak?” It is, “How much does it leak?” Even the smallest pitch is a huge improvement for avoiding water problems down the road.
I do agree with this. My grandparents put a flat roof on their home and it did last a long time. 25yrs. That being said, when it started leaking, it was bad. Really bad. So I do agree with some pitch on ur roof to prevent the water leaks and to repel snow. Love ur home, and can't wait for the finished reveal Bless u and ur family and Your channel is awesome 👍🏼
A flat roof is like setting yourself up for disaster. Frankly, I think a Gambrel roof would be a wonderful and period appropriate compliment to your Mansoud roof. It would give you the wonderful rafter/attic space and not look out-of-place with your lovely home. Good luck.
I have been watching you since the beginning! Your house and restoration helped me during COVID. I miss seeing Kim. When are you going to have a live show with Kim? I'd enjoy seeing her and you with an update as to what she's been doing and how she is enjoying this lovely house.
God bless your diligence with this old gal!!!
She appreciates you!!
Are they still together? Just curious. Haven't seen hide nor hair of her in ages...
I have to agree. She’s missed ♥️😊👍
@@wdgbirmingham2 They got married
No flat roofs! They are the worst. Looking forward to all the things you would like to do.
I'm a St. Louisan, and during the flood of '93, we were living in a rented house that had a flat roof. It was a nightmare. The roof started linking, the landlord wouldn't come fix it, and before we could move out, mold grew all over the walls, and part of the ceiling fell in. I never had allergies before that, and I've been plagued ever since. I'm convinced that's why!
That was just a little 1000 square foot house. I would hate to see your beautiful house that you've put so much work into messed up by a leaking roof.
we aren't changing the roof of the house.
Yeah well good luck with that @The2ndEmpireStrikesBack
I hope I didn't offend you. It's a pretty traditional roof so it makes sense.
@@The2ndEmpireStrikesBack I hope this comment didn't offend you because they was just looking out for the house
I'm pretty excited for a spring cleaning video actually. I want to see all the nooks and crannies shine! Clean house goes a long way towards increasing productivity!
I am so stoked to see the facade of the house come back to life.
Those back doors on the garage and how they are hung (the rail slider) are remarkably similar to a 1912 garage my father-in-law had on his property. The door without the rail is used as a passage door. The 2 doors on the rail rolled back when full access was required. I thought it was a terrific idea, especially when only a passage door was required to gain access to the garage.
Can I just say real quick that my dream collab is to see @AbbyCox and @NicoleRudolph in 1890s dress in this house when it’s more complete? It would be the absolute coolest crossover. I feel like y’all could pass historical/experimental archeology information back and forth like no others. And to see the house come to life like that? *swoon*
Can’t wait to see the facade looking her best again! And yay for closing up window gaps- just think of how much money you’ll save on heating and cooling! I also agree with the comment about the kitchen- I hope you and Kim can have a real functioning kitchen soon. With that you’d have a fully functioning house!
Having a functioning workshop will allow everything to happen.
Oh, I love the iron fencing!! That will finish off the front yard so nicely!!
Yes. That fencing is beautiful. Where I live (BC Canada) that type of fencing is illegal and anyone who currently has it is told to cut the spires off. All for the deer that sometimes get impaled when trying to jump over them. Maybe not a problem in St Louis.
My goodness! I didn't know that. Greetings from the other side of Canada!
If you want a flashing that will last then use Copper - if done in short lengths and correctly jointed, it will last 150 + years without issue. You get what you pay for. Lead is a disaster to use - it will crack and break, Zinc is ok, but for a little more, Copper will last a few lifetimes and best protect the building. I would redo the entire flat roof in Copper - but that is a future project. I hope you kick on in the next season and make some progress. For any Lime repair work use CL90 - it is what was originally used and is far superior to NHL 2.0/3.5/5.0 - you can use CL90 to make Lime Render, Lime Mortar, Lime Plaster and Lime Wash. The Slates you have should be easily removed - I am sure they originally used iron nails, which will by now have corroded and be easy to rip out with a slate ripper tool. Then clean the slates and re-install using Copper Nails only (Not Steel Nails, not Galvanized Nails) - only Copper Nails - they allow a slate to be removed if required in the future without tearing up the surrounding slates. You need to install a weatherproof membrane first before the slates are applied over - this protects the house incase a slate breaks/slips off in a storm in the future - the membrane will keep the rain out.
Those new dormer parts look absolutely fabulous. Removing paint from the slate is quite a job. Paint stripper followed by lacquer thinner and lots of paper towels and newspapers, plus scraping with a razor blade. Don't do a flat roof on the garage, Caleb. Do hip roff. It will look better and last longer than a flat roof.
Another thing I wish I’d done before I tackled my 1917 fixer upper in Virginia is to watch episodes of This Old House. I have learned so much from those guys!😊
Can't help but admire your tenacity. Grateful for the educational aspect, which is definitely a rarity. Your channel is a jewel! Wishing you the best!
I hope you’ll be able to save the slate. It doesn’t look that broken up or damaged, maybe just sandblasting it or something.
I definitely wouldn't do a flat roof.
Your garage was built post 1910. It's a garage and not a carriage house.
The "upside down " doors are original garage doors. That is how they were done, before the overhead door was invented around 1920.
Seeing the structural work to be done on the garage, consider complete removal of all the roof.
Leave only the masonry, rebuild what has decayed. Some of it is beyond tuckpointing .
Rebuild a second floor mansard.
Now you have more room, and a carriage house that matches the age of the house.
Besides; it will be quicker, easier, and cheaper.
Also it will look better.
Did you notice the hardware above it tho? It almost looked like for a sliding barn door style?
@lauramitchell6725 yes. There were many types of mechanisms for garage door operation.
This appears to be a type that folds together, while also being hinged for final swing to the side.
All you need is 3 or 4 Kaleb’s to get this all done! So looking forward to seeing the facade work progressing, and then of course, the interior rooms too! I’m especially interested in seeing what you do with the kitchen! I’ve been following you since the beginning and am in it for the long haul! God bless!
Hi Kaleb and Kim! So looking to see what you get done on the house in 2024. Thankfully Spring is coming soon and time to move back to outdoor projects again. 🌞 Dont forget you're both so amazing!! Luv, luv, luv Rita 💕
Your problem with water is not fust the flashing but the metal box internal rain gutters just under all that flashing. Tinsmithing is your immediate future and soldering lead for the shaping and joining of flat bent internal box gutter to internal downspout. Have fun! You do have the manlift and you will need a sheet metal brake for bending and the leadsmithing tools modern construction adhesives to join the tins might work. You will find the sheet metal box gutters are completely rotten and rusted out unless they were originally copper. Check that under the flashing. See Harrisburg castle for an example.
Do NOT put a Flat roof on your garage! A house I lived in, in North Florida, had one on the Carport & into the laundry area s tarted to leak & could never stop it! A Hip roof would look so good(and more functional) to my way of thought. I look forward to all you are able to get done in 2024!
Beautiful Sunshine in a beautiful House! Thank you Kaleb
Im thinking a lot of the mess started in the 50s and 60s when families wanted modern homes and started moving into the suburbs. We lost a lot of cool buildings after the war and not much TLC went into these old ones.
It was all propogated by racism too.
Absolutely amazing...I truly admire this project!
Looking good.!!!!!
I've been casually following this project since S01; the progress you, your wife, and a small number of contractors have accomplished so far is nothing short of amazing. Channels like yours make me wish I didn't hate doing manual labor as I'd love to rehab a place like this some time :D
I’ve seen all your segments and look forward to your progress in 2024. Thanks for sharing.
Love your channel, work and attitude. Curious why we never see the kitchen? Seems like that would be a priority for restoration.
Too many dirty dishes in the sink (just kidding!)
I couldn't tell you which season or episode it was in, but I know Caleb has gone over his plans for the kitchen at least once before! I remember him showing off a super cool older model fridge and I think an oven as well. I agree though, I can't wait for more interior work on the house again. I personally love watching the little details inside the home bringing all the different rooms to life with color and texture and style!!
Same thought here, that house needs some meals cooked in there!🙂
Last we saw, he was using basic stuff (toaster oven/hot plate) i think the plan is for a victorian kitchen on the first floor, and a basic utilitarian kitchen in the basement.
I like how you pay attention to the order in which to get things done...Good idea of not putting in new windows until all the outside dirty work is finished.😊
I’m so excited to see the roof repaired! The wood trim and the colors you chose look fantastic. Here’s hoping you’re able to salvage those slate tiles. 🤞
Amazing home- They don't build houses like this anymore. My mother was born and raised in Chester, PA. Some of the older homes had 10 foot pocket doors, oak wainscoting and original tile on these huge fireplaces. So glad you're saving this beautiful home...
I love the show and tell episodes.
Hope u can save the slate roof. Looking forward to ur videos in 2024
I grew up in a Mid Century Modern home with a flat roof. I always thought it was so cool because our house was different from all of the others on the block. However, it also had problems. I can remember Dad having to get on the roof to shovel off snow after snowstorms and then, that time when the roof caved in in the hallway due to a large amount of rainfall several days in a row. After that, (and being tired of bailing water collected in a baby pool out of the front door) Dad had a new, peaked roof put on because he didn’t want to have it happen again. You’ll do whatever you think is best. 😊
I’m looking forward to seeing what the new year brings. I hope Kim is enjoying the shower as much as you were.
Spring is almost here ❤
I was looking forward to seeing what’s to come
Looking forward to next week.
Good lord, what an undertaking of projects for the year, i was hoping to hear the kitchen being at the top of the list after the mansard roof.. heres an idea..perhaps put a big piece of brown paper on a wall in the house with projects listed in priority, that way its organized and out of your head. I get like this too with my house but quickly find im over planning which makes me get a bit overwhelmed.
If you don't want that settee in garage I'll take it! Beautiful!
Wow just so much work. It’s great that you have the patience, dedication and interest to continue. Obviously you have learned a lot which will help you going forward. 😊
I'm no roofer, but I'm always hearing through the grapevine that flat roofs suck 😝
St Louis needs a lot more guys like you man.
You are so lucky to have the opportunity to restore such a beautiful home. I love to restore just about anything ,not on such a grand scale as you are doing. Looking forward to your next video! 😊
Wonderful plans!
It’s coming together so well. So many years of hard working coming together. I really hope I will be able to stop by when I come to St. Louis in October.
I'll begin with the fact i know absolutely nothing about slate roofing. Having said that I was wondering if the slates could just be removed and reapplied with the unpainted side face up. That might mean the edges have to have paint removed though. It would also give you a chance to repair or replace any rotted wood under the slate. Ok, now comes the opportunity for the professionals to weigh in...
The house, inside and out, is coming along in a fantastic manner. I appreciate all you are doing and have done so far.
the wood underneath is in excellent shape
Amazing work!
I've enjoyed this journey and how much you've done and mastered. Looking forward to the next season.
I have to pile on to the chorus of NO's on the flat roof. They are never done right and cause nothing but problems down the road. Thanks for the progress report.
I'm new here to your channel 😊 I just wanna say I love it! I love older homes they have such character and beauty. Some like your beautiful lady have historic significance as well. I'm hooked and have been binge watch to catch up. I can't to see more.
Love what you are doing to save this old home.
Absolutely love the music. The house is beautiful. 😮
Fantastic! Looking forward to seeing a completed room aside from the completed toilet room in the first floor!!!
Really looking forward to the finishing of the facade stripping. Even covered in spalling the bare limestone looks much nicer than the old (inappropriate) paint.
Hopefully, the slate roof tiles are salvageable.
Go with a pitched roof. You can pick up some storage space above the rafters too.
Lots of respect for you and your project. This would all be way too overwhelming for me.
Thank you for the walk through of the next year restoration. I am looking forward to it.
as 2024 opens up for the year, you as well as me have a laundry list of stuff that needs to be done.... HUGS to you and Kim, stay safe and keep going.... its looking good!
I hope you and your family are doing okay. Sending you hope and adventure in your new season. 😊
WOW, so much work to do. I hope you are able to continue refurbishing this building because it has some amazing architecture that just isn't incorporated in new buildings anymore... Thumbs Up and take it one step at a time...safely!
Nice update Caleb. Thanks for sharing your plans. Your man-cave I mean your workshop is going to be brilliant- Can’t wait. Bring on spring!! Let’s get the old lady looking beautiful from the street again.
The doors in the back of the shop are garage door. I use to work for a company in Aurora IL call3d Richards-Wilcox. The hardware looks like the old style hinges. It called tri fold hardware. The box track is still made. Look at the hinges or track bracket s. There should be a R-W with a box track stamp around it. I use to recreate old hardware like yours for people like you doing renivations. RW has been around since 1880.
Reading the comments I'm now an anti-flat roofer. Haha!
keep up the good work and thank you for saving the Victorian.
It's really great to watch. I love the passion behind your commitment to make her "sing again." She's definitely transforming into a beauty!
Good morning Kaleb 🌞 looks awesome 👍😎 your doing a fine job so far on the mansion. Take care my friend.📸
You, Sir, as they say - Rock! 🖤
I'm no roofer, would it be possible to remove the slate and simply reinstall flipped over? Perhaps you would be able to bypass removing the paint and save some time and effort. Been watching on and off since the beginning, the new exterior woodwork is amazing.
Yes to at least trying this!👍
Love all the attention to detail! Wow, that roof looks aweful! It looks like it could go as soon as the spring rains come. YIKES!!!
That whole place was on its last leg lol. You saved it in the nick of time 😉So much work to do but once you get the main parts done the rest should go pretty quickly :)))
Enjoy watching your videos
*Kia ora (hello) Kaleb & Kim and John too 🙂 Ohhh lots of great things are on your list of jobs for this year 2024 & beyond. Don't over stretch yourselves.. or stress out, if things take longer.... Cos we are all here for you no matter how long it takes. I always look forward to each and everyone of your videos. Kim, you gotta start up your channel again.. 🙂 oh and give all the pets a pat from me too 🙂nz*
I was lucky enough to find your channel very early on and have followed you ever since. It was the title that caught my eye as I am fascinated by architecture from eras past. I truly admire you and Kim for your commitment, up-beatness (is that a word?), as you just continue to “plow through”, even when not-so-pleasant surprises present themselves. I feel like I know you two, you make yourselves known by sharing family and pet happy and sad times. I live in Indiana and plan to make the trip to St. Louis when progress makes it good for you to have “tourists”!
So excited for your coming year of projects and progress!
I am very proud of myself I binge-watched the whole entire series just in time for season 4.
the only flat roofs I've seen that have real staying power are in England manor houses and are covered in lead sheeting. Maybe they're not the best for ground water quality but they do seem to last
Caleb why not put some dowels or sticks in those windows and get them closed? Brrrr! St. Louis is cold in winter!!
thank you
Thanks Caleb for sharing about your wonderful project.
Great work on a beautiful home!
Thanks for update look forward to your video's 🤗👍
Love Sue ❤❤❤🇬🇧❤❤❤
I’ve read many comments n many feel you’re looking for more headaches using a flat roof. Knowing you live in a state that snows a lot n rain you’re only asking for more problems with a flat roof. Realizing that many of the homes in your state had flat roofs you might reconsider some of the suggestions. I know how much you want this house to be as original from the day it was built. Just a thought here. You have a lot on your plate but I have faith in you will accomplish much of your plans. Im not going anywhere I’ll be right here sticking with ya on whatever you want to do n share. ♥️♥️😊👍👍👏👏👏👏
I'm not changing the roof of the house. That never been an option as it's literaly 3 years old and has no issues.
@@The2ndEmpireStrikesBack I respect your decision I hope others will too. I know I how much you love this house n how much you want to preserve n keep it as it once was. Stick to your guns Kaleb I’ll support ya. ♥️😊👍👍
Since you will have to remove a bunch of the slate to replace the flashing properly can you just flip it over and put the non painted side out. Maybe purchasing enough new slate to do a small area say the side and use the good slates from that section to replace missing or broken ones on the rest of the roof. I think the fixture in the garage is just a screw in shade from the late 50's early 60's. We have one in our garage and the house was built in 1964.
Great idea about trying to flip the slate!
At 15:00 minutes you are in the basement talking, is that asbestos wrap on those pipes? if so, what are the requirements to deal with asbestos in that state, I absolutely love your house and the fact that you are painstakingly using everything that is period on the remodel, your specialist's truly are that, what quality workmanship they are doing with the woodwork, that vintage equipment is awesome and I can't wait to see it all together in the same building, thank you for bringing us along.
Amazing work so far
Thank you so much 😀
I have enjoyed your journey on saving this home. Looking forward to more of your work. Thank you for sharing your journey with all of your followers.
Flat roofs are fine...as long as you don't mind getting up there every year to fix leaks!
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I am quite surprised that you haven’t finished your workshop area in the garage. Perhaps I would have done that first. That would give you a a hub for future construction work on the house-an organized work area.
Best wishes.
you ( all) are amazing !
I just discovered you yesterday, and I’m so excited! I realized when seeing the views out your windows that you live in the same neighborhood as my sister and her two adult kids. In fact, my sister told me how excited she was a couple of years ago when you started your project. I’m so glad to see your perseverance and what a high standard of work you are doing. It’s wonderful to see your beautiful old house come back to life.
Having done my own home reno on a 1917 Craftsman house in Virginia, I encourage you to take a bit of time and clean up the rooms you aren’t working in. The constant mess and clutter of work tools and building materials can be both depressing and mind cluttering. Create as much order as you can in the parts of the house you are living in, and get rid of stuff you know you won’t use. That will lighten your brain load and help you to think more clearly. Hang in there, and keep on keeping on!
Agree, cleaning up is an easy but productive job for those days when you lack motivation.
it's been a great seasons and l'm excited for you both for next season xxxx
Just love all the projects! What fun.
Long day glad to see more updates ❤