For years as a kid I was a Jordan fan. And as an adult I became an asst college coach. And I made my kids watch film on John. I made them appreciate John. To this day there is no one like John in the Game. If any coach would give me a chance to coach again I could show them how to succeed cause of how ball movement and how to screen away, but colleges want success after only 1 season. They don't give you long term chances as much anymore
As a former college asst I worked in D2 as a Student asst under Jeff Linder who I worked with at Emporia State University both under David Moe. Moe's dad Doug coached for the nuggets against John. And the asst Jeff Linder is now at the University of Wyoming in the Big Sky conference. And if John got into coaching I'd easily go to work for John. Cause John has so much knowledge to teach kids. And when I went to work in the NAIA for Andy Carrier at Ottawa University (KS) we went to the Elite 8. But I would love to see John be a coach. He is the ultimate competitor and could easily communicate with coachs and players.
Amazing player, humble soul, class act. On the court he had the heart of a lion. Took hits from guys twice his size and never missed games. Deserved to win a championship but Jordan. Guy never stopped. I bleed Celtic green but loved Stockton and Malone.
He's the best PG ever . Never seen a PG make better basketball decisions with the ball than he did. He was so smart and made everyone else look like fools quietly
Gary "The Glove" Payton said John was the toughest player he ever had to guard, including MJ. Stockton is the all-time NBA leader in assists AND steals and his assist record is considered out of reach by many. He had an extremely high bball IQ and he was tough as nails. One of the greatest...
I agree. I've watched basketball for 45 years & I think John Stockton is the best. I saw Magic, Nate Archibald, I. Thomas, Steve Nash, J. Kidd. Stockton wasn't as flashy as some others, but, he was Mr. Dependable & solid! I wish he would have won a Title!
Total legend. Best pure PG that has ever lived. It's also complete nonsense that Stockton is slighted because Utah never won a championship. Karl Malone was obviously phenomenal but those Utah teams really had modest talent after their top 2. Magic, Bird, Michael, Hakeem, and Isaiah, would not have won championships on that Utah team. I would take Stockton ahead of every player in the prime Jordan era with the exception of MJ and Hakeem. Yes, ahead of Thomas, Barkley, Pippen, K. Malone, Ewing Robinson, Payton, etc, etc, etc. The guy didn't miss a game for 13 years. He has no weaknesses as a PG, tougher than anyone, and was great defender. He made Karl Malone, not the other way around. The most fundamentally sound player I've ever seen and frankly underrated.
I am lucky i was a teenager in the 80s. I loved Bird most of all but as a small guy i looked upon John Stockton and Dennis Johnson. Those 2 were my heroes. It is amazing how well spoken and down to earth Stockton is still today.
As a fan as a kid I was a huge Jordan Fan, but after College Basketball and learning Basketball as a craft as a Coach, I learned to appreciate Stock. I miss seeing him play. Hes a guy that can easily teach players how to play the game cause hes so unselfish. And easily the best PG ever
A new Larry Legend story, he actually walked into the gym when Utah was playing and told their coach he was going to score 40, and freaking did it! Man, kahones.
Seeing him play throughout the 80s here on youtube, the Jazz went to the semifinals throughout the mid 80s through the late 90s, he's been playing and defending against 80s Blazers, 80s Lakers, early 90s Rockets, 96 Seattle Supersonics, they even Beat the Nuggets to face the 94 and 95 Rockets, in 1997 and 1998 We all know who he faced against and Finally they made it to the Finals. That long and they were battling Teams in the Conference Semis since the Mid 80s, so close, but they were a much better team in the 96 97 and 97 98 Seasons, with their lineup. Then they hit the Finals, Guy is a LEGEND, played in different eras against Everybody till the early 2000s, from Magic Johnson to Allen Iverson, Glad he never got Traded. 👏
Retired with 2 double digit average stats for 19 years,that's not every players could achieves that...salute... especially assist which I doubt the records will be broken by future generation in the NBA
When they use the term "ALL AMERICAN"..I think of John Stockton. I was a Bulls fan but couldn't help but notice him and RESPECT him during those games.
Research Dan Patrick. Stockton played 82 games 16 times. The lockout season in 99 he played all 50. Only in 2 seasons he missed games due to injury....and people rave about LeBron playing 82 games in yr 15. Pulease.
LeBron went to 8 straight finals and he carries a bigger load but 16 straight seasons without missing a game at that’s unheard of especially at the pg position.
man i miss watching this guy play there will never ever ever be another stockton ....there will be others comparable to jordan but never ever will any future player stack up to this guy.
Everyone has that Bird story....LOL...he did to everyone I want to heard something else..... For example: We came out of a timeout with a play ready....Bird walks up and says...I bet your play is....[guesses right] and then says...see the problem with that is...Mchale/Parish will block tap it to me and I will dagger the game... and that's what happened
I mean there really isn't a question. It's kinda like a Tim Duncan thing... He just isn't flashy. People just don't notice how huge of an impact because what they do is consistent and high IQ. It isn't for show it is for the sake of winning. Magic Johnson was more entertaining to watch maybe for the average person. Certainly had a deeper bench. Though Stockton unfortunately never got a chip, I like the guys who stayed with one team and lead.
I was reviewing the all time leaders in the major stats: rebounds, Points, Steals, Assists, Blocks. Other than Points (because Lebron can break it) I don't think any of the other records are broken. I think Stockton's name is at the top for a long time. Its just hard to imagine someone keeping his average over 19 years for steals and Assists. I would say the same for Rebounds with Chamberlain and Blocks with Olajuwon.
Lol he asked him who talked more Jordon or Bird, I met Nate McMillan and asked him that and he paused, looked like he gave it some thought and finally answered with a definitive "both of them"
Scoring, Assists, Rebounds, Steals and Blocks. Those are the big 5 and he holds records in two of those catagories. How is not one of the greatest of all time in any postion? 51% from the field. 13 complete seasons and only missed like 22 games in his career. He just didn't win a ring. I always wish they had recorded more stats in Wilts early career to get a full picture of where he stands.
@@yidiandianpang Yeah he's so low-key. But I would love to see him. But like I can't see john Stockton being on twitter or doing press conferences all the time. Maybe like an assistant coach who could hide lol.
Depending on your definition of the PG position, either Stockton or Magic is the greatest of all time. Stockton was a pass first shoot second type of PG who got his entire team involved which is why his assist record will never be broken. Magic was a more all round player who could do a bit of everything, score, pass, rebound, block
I get your point. Magic was a better multiple position player, body wise a small forward who played point and every other position. John was a better PURE point guard. What magics stats would have been only playing point would be a guess. Magics greatness was playing multiple positions. For a point guard I would have taken John. For a multiple position player, magic. Both were great in their on way.
Magic was great, but he could have problems guarding smaller, quicker guards. If we are talking 1980s, I pick Zeke over Stockton. If it's 1990s, no question Stockton was the best.
We need a Jordan or Bird story from every player that played in the 80's/90's??? There has to be other interesting guys to talk about man. Dr J, Kevin McHale, Barkley, Laimbeer, playing those Nuggets in Denver, Kareem, playing Showtime, Clyde,.....shoot Mark Eaton. What was life like playing alongside an actual mountain IN the Mountains?? I find the MJ and Bird stuff over done by Dan now.
staxmantim I am going to assume you're unfamiliar with the amount of times Dan asks former players about Michael Jordan.....at some point it's ok to NOT ask a dude who's been on your show half a dozen times about MJ. He's asked Stockton about MJ every time and it's the same answer......so yeah, talk about something/someone else from the 80's and 90's.....expand the knowledge for people like you who might be enlightened by the Doug Moe Nuggets
I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I liked Stockton, Malone, or the Jazz. But I HATED the Bulls. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 The Jazz would beat my Lakers in the playoffs and I would turn around and cheer for them in the Finals 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 With that being said, John Stockton was the MF'N TRUTH! Dude was TOUGH and SMART. If he played in today's game, he would be the best PG
Played against so many great players over the years and all people ask about is Michael and Bird, same people. We've heard all that crap so many times.
John is to smart for that. Much to big of a media show. That's not John. Plus, WHY??? He has done some help coaching that most would never know about. That's John.
Best/toughest point guard to ever play, Stockton. Magic Johnson right there skill wise. Half the career, but unfortunately that was cut short by a horrible disease. The NBA lost a legend that day he announced it. Stockton was the guy who gave 6 foot white guys hope that they had a shot. Myself included. Best basketball era we will ever see. Just think of the names. Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Bird, McHale, Parish, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman,Olajuwon,Stockton, Malone, Mullen, David Robinson, Shaq early years. Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, DOMINIQUE. Good lord this list isn't even complete. I'm leaving out names that were stars. How about Spud Webb and Mugsy. Those guys had no business being that competetive in the NBA. Dikembe Mutombo. Patrick Ewing Isaih Thomas. Even guys like Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge were solid. It seems like today, there are 3 or 4 teams with a legit chance to win. Back then, Lakers, Celtics were favorites with 8 more teams that had a legit shot. I miss the 80's NBA
The crazy part was the Rockets won back to back Championships with Jordan gone and then they added Barkley and were even better on paper. But the Jazz beat the Rockets to get to the Finals but then had to face Jordan at that point in time, as Jordan came back from baseball. MJ's Bulls won 3 straight Titles before Jordan went to play baseball and 3 straight when he came back. The Rockets won in-between. You could say the Jazz peaked too late when they beat the Rockets but Stockton was 36 years old when the Jazz finally got the chance to play for a Title versus MJ. It just took too long for the Jazz Brass to get a supporting cast with a small market payroll. Stockton was even better than some fans in that era even knew. Back in the 80's, the Jazz were never on national TV and Sportscenter gave the Utah Jazz maybe 30 seconds of highlights. There was no internet or even pay per view was very limited in what in offered at that point. There is very little footage even on youtube to watch Stockton's 80s highlights in old grainy footage. But I do like this one; ua-cam.com/video/XWd-cVz357w/v-deo.html Stockton's career averages don't tell the full story either. He got low minutes his first three seasons behind Ricky Green. It was the ole skool approach to wait in the wings for the young guy under the veteran. But when Stockton did start and his body was young and athletic, he averaged 17 points and 14 assists in the last 3 seasons of the decade (80s). As an older player (38-40 years old) he also played less minutes and those overall stats went down. But with all of that, Stockton played 19 seasons in the NBA and was an iron man at 6 foot and 175 pounds. He still is the all time leader in steals and assists. Check out the old footage and see that he was a much better athlete than people give him credit for. Remember few NBA fans saw him play until the Jazz were contenders and got air time when Stockton was older.
@@gdog3finally Yea, In my Opinion the 96 97and 97 98 Jazz had much better players, like a young Greg Ostertag who Blocked Olajawon so many times in the 98 Playoffs, and Bryon Russel who was a good outsife shooter and Jeff Hornacek compared to Stocks other teammates in the 80s to the mid 90s. They have a much better lineup in the from 96 to 98. But we all know What happend, 98 Finals was close, Their weakness was their defense, they just look at players shoot over them instead of working on their defense. Both Respect for MJ, Stock and Malone, 99 Jazz went on to face the Blazers two Playoffs in a row and Blazers were the better team. Stock even got better and played better during the early 2000s with a different line up in his team. Much respect
In the WCF against the rockets the Jazz had a decent lead in the last game towards the end. The Jazz should have won but went to the prevent defense. It worked, it prevented them from winning..... I'm glad that most teams don't do that as much anymore. Worst plan ever. The Jazz should have a chip or two. It still doesn't take away what a great team they were or how great some of the players were. One more high quality player and things could have been really different.
For someone who leads the leagues ALL TIME in assists and steals, known one of the greatest, insanely humble. 10:50 he easily could have ordered room service, but instead, risked his wife's life to hang laundry out the window. 🤣🤣 Classic, Stockton family, shows up to games in a mini-van, hangs his kid's laundry on a balcony while playing at the Olympics with snipers everywhere. lol
Best hands, best feet, best eyes, never tired.......a few reasons he is all time steals leader. Not really close. Tendency to focus on Stockton's offensive production overshadows his defense sometimes.
He’s a good player. He’s “underrated” because he was efficient but his talent wasn’t once a generation. His play did everything but capture your imagination.
Depends on what you mean by talent. Stamina, toughness, shooting accuracy from all ranges, steals, hustle, ball handling, basketball iq, clutch performance, passing, setting screens, team oriented. Are those talent? He is utterly unique.
"Woman Head Coach" ... When I was in 8th Grade.. We played and beat University Div 1 Women at 13-14 yrs old. Girls were 8 years older and some much taller. It won't work.. Nobody is looking to trade down.. who's norm is a lesser quality of play. Just the Facts. Life.. like sports is competitive. Faux/forced equality always fails, causes problems.
Man a women head coach would be a disaster. Women are not built to lead men. Plus whoever hires the first women will have to fire them to so you are screwed.
EVRYMANaKING the league was all in on Jordan, he was the cash cow! Bulls winning the championship earned billions for the NBA and it's always about the money. Jazz had lost b4 game 1.
Blade Runner Truth to the 10th power !!! Def was game over even before the first jump ball, you are spittin facts about the league being "all in", no doubt.
Hey Sam, look at the supporting casts. Ostertag? Foster? Eisley? A broken down Hornacek? Compared to Harper, Bison, Rodman, Kukoc? That's why. Stockton had Malone, and not much else. Jordan had Pippen and those mentioned. A prime Hornacek, and the Jazz win those titles.
True but Stockton was 36 years old by the time the Jazz played for a Title. The Jazz took way too long to get Stockton and Malone a supporting cast. The Rockets won back to back Titles when Jordan left the league to play baseball. Then when he came back it looked like a matchup between The Rockets and Bulls was in the making, especially since the Rockets added Barkley to their team who won the Title the previous two seasons. But the Jazz beat the Rockets. If they jazz peaked a few seasons earlier, they could have been that team who won two straight Titles. The Jazz did make back to back appearances in the NBA Finals in 1997 and 1998. But Jordan and his 6 Titles were too much for Utah. However people need to remember the Bulls had more horses as well. Many great players didn't win Titles in that era. Dudes stayed with teams and competed back then. They didn't jump ship and form Super Teams. The league is watered down now. Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullen, Stockton and Malone were all Dream Teamers who didn't win Titles. Consider this as well; would Kevin Durrant have a Title if he stayed in OKC instead of going to GS? Even Lebron lost in the Finals when he was young in Cleveland and didn't start winning Titles until he was on a Super Team in Miami. The Jazz went to the Western Conference Finals in 1992, 1994, 1996, 1997 and 1998 (5 times). In the late 80s when Stockton was younger, the Jazz had Stockton and Malone and very little else but they took the Lakers with Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Rambis, Scott, Copper and Thompson to a Game 7. The Lakers escaped and won Game 7 and went on to win another Title. But the Utah series was a hell of a series. The Jazz lost on a last second shot in LA in game 5 when the series was tied 2-2. Stockton had a monster game in LA that night with 23 points, 24 assists and 5 steals. The Jazz won game 6 but that could have been a close out game if the last seconds went different in game 5. Also, Jordan and Pippen both said that their last two Titles out of the six they won were the toughest and that the Jazz were the best team they faced in their Title runs.
As great as he was, he was not the best. If he was, he'd have a title. Both Stockton's finals appearances were middling. He tended to wilt rather than rise in the playoffs. No killer instinct. And his left hand was super suspect, too.
He and his family are my neighbors...good ppl
For years as a kid I was a Jordan fan. And as an adult I became an asst college coach. And I made my kids watch film on John. I made them appreciate John. To this day there is no one like John in the Game. If any coach would give me a chance to coach again I could show them how to succeed cause of how ball movement and how to screen away, but colleges want success after only 1 season. They don't give you long term chances as much anymore
As a former college asst I worked in D2 as a Student asst under Jeff Linder who I worked with at Emporia State University both under David Moe. Moe's dad Doug coached for the nuggets against John. And the asst Jeff Linder is now at the University of Wyoming in the Big Sky conference. And if John got into coaching I'd easily go to work for John. Cause John has so much knowledge to teach kids. And when I went to work in the NAIA for Andy Carrier at Ottawa University (KS) we went to the Elite 8. But I would love to see John be a coach. He is the ultimate competitor and could easily communicate with coachs and players.
@Julian Netherwood Get off the Cross Sherlock Holmes, we need the wood.
John Stockton is an epic legend. I love this guy's game for real. The steals, assists, play making are epic and inimitable to see.
Amazing player, humble soul, class act. On the court he had the heart of a lion. Took hits from guys twice his size and never missed games. Deserved to win a championship but Jordan. Guy never stopped. I bleed Celtic green but loved Stockton and Malone.
51.5% shooting percentage as a point guard. One of the best to ever step on the court. Loved watching him play. Does not get enough credit.
shrapnel77 absolutely right. He and Magic are 1and 2 PGs in history. Not sure of the order. Close behind are Kidd and Nash.
Listening to former players. It seemed like Stockton was better than Malone
and his passing/assists, the proficiency of which enabled him to take shots as well, very difficult to handle i bet
Agree. Good times.
He's the best PG ever . Never seen a PG make better basketball decisions with the ball than he did. He was so smart and made everyone else look like fools quietly
Stockton such a class act
Gary "The Glove" Payton said John was the toughest player he ever had to guard, including MJ. Stockton is the all-time NBA leader in assists AND steals and his assist record is considered out of reach by many. He had an extremely high bball IQ and he was tough as nails. One of the greatest...
Another stat few know about is that he also is the all time turnover leader. Love Stockton and looked up all his stats one day.
I love how Dan Patrick is trying to poke him into talking about how good he was and Stockton doesn't take the bait. Lol
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a more humble athlete
Best pg of all-time! Magic most gifted pg, and entertaining but Stockton was the best.
archy2frank2 well said
Hahaha
archy2frank2 well said
I agree. I've watched basketball for 45 years & I think John Stockton is the best. I saw Magic, Nate Archibald, I. Thomas, Steve Nash, J. Kidd. Stockton wasn't as flashy as some others, but, he was Mr. Dependable & solid! I wish he would have won a Title!
Totally agree with you
Total legend. Best pure PG that has ever lived. It's also complete nonsense that Stockton is slighted because Utah never won a championship. Karl Malone was obviously phenomenal but those Utah teams really had modest talent after their top 2. Magic, Bird, Michael, Hakeem, and Isaiah, would not have won championships on that Utah team. I would take Stockton ahead of every player in the prime Jordan era with the exception of MJ and Hakeem. Yes, ahead of Thomas, Barkley, Pippen, K. Malone, Ewing Robinson, Payton, etc, etc, etc. The guy didn't miss a game for 13 years. He has no weaknesses as a PG, tougher than anyone, and was great defender. He made Karl Malone, not the other way around. The most fundamentally sound player I've ever seen and frankly underrated.
I am lucky i was a teenager in the 80s. I loved Bird most of all but as a small guy i looked upon John Stockton and Dennis Johnson. Those 2 were my heroes. It is amazing how well spoken and down to earth Stockton is still today.
What. A. Class. Act.
And he handled that PC question with women coaches in the NBA really well there. And such humility, pure greatness.
As a fan as a kid I was a huge Jordan Fan, but after College Basketball and learning Basketball as a craft as a Coach, I learned to appreciate Stock. I miss seeing him play. Hes a guy that can easily teach players how to play the game cause hes so unselfish. And easily the best PG ever
I loved Stockton in Jordan era. He is in my perspective second to magic.
A new Larry Legend story, he actually walked into the gym when Utah was playing and told their coach he was going to score 40, and freaking did it! Man, kahones.
How about the time he played the whole game *left handed* and scored 28!
Seeing him play throughout the 80s here on youtube, the Jazz went to the semifinals throughout the mid 80s through the late 90s, he's been playing and defending against 80s Blazers, 80s Lakers, early 90s Rockets, 96 Seattle Supersonics, they even Beat the Nuggets to face the 94 and 95 Rockets, in 1997 and 1998 We all know who he faced against and Finally they made it to the Finals. That long and they were battling Teams in the Conference Semis since the Mid 80s, so close, but they were a much better team in the 96 97 and 97 98 Seasons, with their lineup. Then they hit the Finals, Guy is a LEGEND, played in different eras against Everybody till the early 2000s, from Magic Johnson to Allen Iverson, Glad he never got Traded. 👏
You knew the pick and roll was coming from Stockton and Malone but there was nothing that could stop it.
Retired with 2 double digit average stats for 19 years,that's not every players could achieves that...salute... especially assist which I doubt the records will be broken by future generation in the NBA
People don’t talk about his defense enough.
When they use the term "ALL AMERICAN"..I think of John Stockton. I was a Bulls fan but couldn't help but notice him and RESPECT him during those games.
Sir John Stockton... they don't make 'em like him anymore.
Can't blame him for going back to his hometown and enjoying the retirement but man wish he can be a major role with Utah.
Dan you need to do a long format interview of just stories!
All time assist and stills leader.... Best PG right here. Let's look at the numbers and not the flash dammit.
Research Dan Patrick. Stockton played 82 games 16 times.
The lockout season in 99 he played all 50. Only in 2 seasons he missed games due to injury....and people rave about LeBron playing 82 games in yr 15. Pulease.
Yup just fan boys out there lol
LeBron went to 8 straight finals and he carries a bigger load but 16 straight seasons without missing a game at that’s unheard of especially at the pg position.
Yeah , Jordan played every single game when he came back from his baseball stint as well. something like 334 out of 334.
17/19
But he got hurt and missed some dream team games.
Greatest PG of all time to me.
man i miss watching this guy play there will never ever ever be another stockton ....there will be others comparable to jordan but never ever will any future player stack up to this guy.
I absolutely love Stockton he is in my top 5 period! I'm from the hood also!
John Stockton looks like a short version of Superman or could be his brother. He's that amazing.
Everyone has that Bird story....LOL...he did to everyone
I want to heard something else.....
For example: We came out of a timeout with a play ready....Bird walks up and says...I bet your play is....[guesses right] and then says...see the problem with that is...Mchale/Parish will block tap it to me and I will dagger the game...
and that's what happened
John Stockton a forgotten legend of basketball
One of the greats
Great interview!
Mizz TreeJackson great interview up til the Bird story.....in my opinion
Stockton #1 Assists AND Steals... GOAT PG. The Eminem of the PG position. If Stockton was black there would be no question.
I mean there really isn't a question. It's kinda like a Tim Duncan thing... He just isn't flashy. People just don't notice how huge of an impact because what they do is consistent and high IQ. It isn't for show it is for the sake of winning. Magic Johnson was more entertaining to watch maybe for the average person. Certainly had a deeper bench. Though Stockton unfortunately never got a chip, I like the guys who stayed with one team and lead.
I was reviewing the all time leaders in the major stats: rebounds, Points, Steals, Assists, Blocks. Other than Points (because Lebron can break it) I don't think any of the other records are broken. I think Stockton's name is at the top for a long time. Its just hard to imagine someone keeping his average over 19 years for steals and Assists. I would say the same for Rebounds with Chamberlain and Blocks with Olajuwon.
Lol he asked him who talked more Jordon or Bird, I met Nate McMillan and asked him that and he paused, looked like he gave it some thought and finally answered with a definitive "both of them"
A rare gem. No braggadocio.
That's an interesting obervation on point gaurds. Its a similar trend to running quarterbacks.
What a cool dude
John Stockton is more personable now than all the years in Utah. It’s like he can finally chill out.
Thanks! Great talk from an NBA legend. But, WORK is the message.
One of NBA legend... JS! 😊
Best PG in the history of the game. Simple.
Scoring, Assists, Rebounds, Steals and Blocks. Those are the big 5 and he holds records in two of those catagories. How is not one of the greatest of all time in any postion? 51% from the field. 13 complete seasons and only missed like 22 games in his career. He just didn't win a ring. I always wish they had recorded more stats in Wilts early career to get a full picture of where he stands.
I think Stockton can be a great coach..
Doesn't want the attention
@@yidiandianpang Yeah he's so low-key. But I would love to see him. But like I can't see john Stockton being on twitter or doing press conferences all the time. Maybe like an assistant coach who could hide lol.
Depending on your definition of the PG position, either Stockton or Magic is the greatest of all time. Stockton was a pass first shoot second type of PG who got his entire team involved which is why his assist record will never be broken. Magic was a more all round player who could do a bit of everything, score, pass, rebound, block
I get your point. Magic was a better multiple position player, body wise a small forward who played point and every other position. John was a better PURE point guard. What magics stats would have been only playing point would be a guess. Magics greatness was playing multiple positions. For a point guard I would have taken John. For a multiple position player, magic. Both were great in their on way.
Magic was great, but he could have problems guarding smaller, quicker guards. If we are talking 1980s, I pick Zeke over Stockton. If it's 1990s, no question Stockton was the best.
Love Stock !!!
Growing up they use to call me the pointless guard. Even if I beat someone with a move, there was always a hype pass to be made
Correction: He played every game 17 years (out of 19)
We need a Jordan or Bird story from every player that played in the 80's/90's??? There has to be other interesting guys to talk about man. Dr J, Kevin McHale, Barkley, Laimbeer, playing those Nuggets in Denver, Kareem, playing Showtime, Clyde,.....shoot Mark Eaton. What was life like playing alongside an actual mountain IN the Mountains?? I find the MJ and Bird stuff over done by Dan now.
Dude played against MJ in two straight Finals. What do you expect? Nuggets-really ?
staxmantim I am going to assume you're unfamiliar with the amount of times Dan asks former players about Michael Jordan.....at some point it's ok to NOT ask a dude who's been on your show half a dozen times about MJ. He's asked Stockton about MJ every time and it's the same answer......so yeah, talk about something/someone else from the 80's and 90's.....expand the knowledge for people like you who might be enlightened by the Doug Moe Nuggets
Dan obviously likes to hear MJ/bird stories. If you're sick of them, stop listening. Problem solved.
Except I cannot wait to see the ESPN Last Dance series
I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I liked Stockton, Malone, or the Jazz. But I HATED the Bulls. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 The Jazz would beat my Lakers in the playoffs and I would turn around and cheer for them in the Finals 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
With that being said, John Stockton was the MF'N TRUTH! Dude was TOUGH and SMART. If he played in today's game, he would be the best PG
Played against so many great players over the years and all people ask about is Michael and Bird, same people.
We've heard all that crap so many times.
What a good dude.
John Stockton for knicks GM please
Sadly, that's suicide for anyone, I'd hate to see Stockton not get immediate results, then people would just trash him. He doesn't need that.
John is to smart for that. Much to big of a media show. That's not John. Plus, WHY??? He has done some help coaching that most would never know about. That's John.
my fav.
Best/toughest point guard to ever play, Stockton. Magic Johnson right there skill wise. Half the career, but unfortunately that was cut short by a horrible disease. The NBA lost a legend that day he announced it.
Stockton was the guy who gave 6 foot white guys hope that they had a shot. Myself included. Best basketball era we will ever see. Just think of the names. Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Bird, McHale, Parish, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman,Olajuwon,Stockton, Malone, Mullen, David Robinson, Shaq early years. Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp, DOMINIQUE. Good lord this list isn't even complete. I'm leaving out names that were stars. How about Spud Webb and Mugsy. Those guys had no business being that competetive in the NBA. Dikembe Mutombo. Patrick Ewing Isaih Thomas. Even guys like Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge were solid. It seems like today, there are 3 or 4 teams with a legit chance to win. Back then, Lakers, Celtics were favorites with 8 more teams that had a legit shot. I miss the 80's NBA
Such a shame he cudnt win championship in 94 and 95 when Jordan retired that was his opening
The crazy part was the Rockets won back to back Championships with Jordan gone and then they added Barkley and were even better on paper. But the Jazz beat the Rockets to get to the Finals but then had to face Jordan at that point in time, as Jordan came back from baseball.
MJ's Bulls won 3 straight Titles before Jordan went to play baseball and 3 straight when he came back. The Rockets won in-between. You could say the Jazz peaked too late when they beat the Rockets but Stockton was 36 years old when the Jazz finally got the chance to play for a Title versus MJ. It just took too long for the Jazz Brass to get a supporting cast with a small market payroll.
Stockton was even better than some fans in that era even knew. Back in the 80's, the Jazz were never on national TV and Sportscenter gave the Utah Jazz maybe 30 seconds of highlights. There was no internet or even pay per view was very limited in what in offered at that point. There is very little footage even on youtube to watch Stockton's 80s highlights in old grainy footage. But I do like this one; ua-cam.com/video/XWd-cVz357w/v-deo.html
Stockton's career averages don't tell the full story either. He got low minutes his first three seasons behind Ricky Green. It was the ole skool approach to wait in the wings for the young guy under the veteran. But when Stockton did start and his body was young and athletic, he averaged 17 points and 14 assists in the last 3 seasons of the decade (80s). As an older player (38-40 years old) he also played less minutes and those overall stats went down. But with all of that, Stockton played 19 seasons in the NBA and was an iron man at 6 foot and 175 pounds. He still is the all time leader in steals and assists. Check out the old footage and see that he was a much better athlete than people give him credit for. Remember few NBA fans saw him play until the Jazz were contenders and got air time when Stockton was older.
@@gdog3finally Yea, In my Opinion the 96 97and 97 98 Jazz had much better players, like a young Greg Ostertag who Blocked Olajawon so many times in the 98 Playoffs, and Bryon Russel who was a good outsife shooter and Jeff Hornacek compared to Stocks other teammates in the 80s to the mid 90s. They have a much better lineup in the from 96 to 98. But we all know What happend, 98 Finals was close, Their weakness was their defense, they just look at players shoot over them instead of working on their defense. Both Respect for MJ, Stock and Malone, 99 Jazz went on to face the Blazers two Playoffs in a row and Blazers were the better team. Stock even got better and played better during the early 2000s with a different line up in his team. Much respect
In the WCF against the rockets the Jazz had a decent lead in the last game towards the end. The Jazz should have won but went to the prevent defense. It worked, it prevented them from winning..... I'm glad that most teams don't do that as much anymore. Worst plan ever. The Jazz should have a chip or two. It still doesn't take away what a great team they were or how great some of the players were. One more high quality player and things could have been really different.
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For someone who leads the leagues ALL TIME in assists and steals, known one of the greatest, insanely humble.
10:50 he easily could have ordered room service, but instead, risked his wife's life to hang laundry out the window. 🤣🤣
Classic, Stockton family, shows up to games in a mini-van, hangs his kid's laundry on a balcony while playing at the Olympics with snipers everywhere. lol
Wow so he is a real homeboy.
The grape smuggling pasty gangster himself.
Best hands, best feet, best eyes, never tired.......a few reasons he is all time steals leader. Not really close.
Tendency to focus on Stockton's offensive production overshadows his defense sometimes.
Can u come coach the Knicks
He’s a good player. He’s “underrated” because he was efficient but his talent wasn’t once a generation. His play did everything but capture your imagination.
Depends on what you mean by talent. Stamina, toughness, shooting accuracy from all ranges, steals, hustle, ball handling, basketball iq, clutch performance, passing, setting screens, team oriented. Are those talent? He is utterly unique.
Woman head coach? Let us know how that goes.
This is what happens when you let jews dominate league ownership
"Woman Head Coach" ... When I was in 8th Grade.. We played and beat University Div 1 Women at 13-14 yrs old. Girls were 8 years older and some much taller. It won't work.. Nobody is looking to trade down.. who's norm is a lesser quality of play. Just the Facts. Life.. like sports is competitive. Faux/forced equality always fails, causes problems.
That's abhorrent to old the wife of a legend at gun point.
Man a women head coach would be a disaster. Women are not built to lead men. Plus whoever hires the first women will have to fire them to so you are screwed.
Stockton = Tony Parker
Uh, Stockton > Parker. Why would you post such nonsense?
Stockton #1 steals, #1 assists. Malone #2 points, ( only Kareem has more) and still couldn't beat Jordan, twice.
sam jones the refs didn't call anything on Jordan. Bog advantage thatbthe Bulls had and definitely changed the outcome for the Jazz.
EVRYMANaKING the league was all in on Jordan, he was the cash cow! Bulls winning the championship earned billions for the NBA and it's always about the money. Jazz had lost b4 game 1.
Blade Runner Truth to the 10th power !!! Def was game over even before the first jump ball, you are spittin facts about the league being "all in", no doubt.
Hey Sam, look at the supporting casts. Ostertag? Foster? Eisley? A broken down Hornacek? Compared to Harper, Bison, Rodman, Kukoc? That's why. Stockton had Malone, and not much else. Jordan had Pippen and those mentioned. A prime Hornacek, and the Jazz win those titles.
True but Stockton was 36 years old by the time the Jazz played for a Title. The Jazz took way too long to get Stockton and Malone a supporting cast. The Rockets won back to back Titles when Jordan left the league to play baseball. Then when he came back it looked like a matchup between The Rockets and Bulls was in the making, especially since the Rockets added Barkley to their team who won the Title the previous two seasons. But the Jazz beat the Rockets. If they jazz peaked a few seasons earlier, they could have been that team who won two straight Titles. The Jazz did make back to back appearances in the NBA Finals in 1997 and 1998. But Jordan and his 6 Titles were too much for Utah. However people need to remember the Bulls had more horses as well.
Many great players didn't win Titles in that era. Dudes stayed with teams and competed back then. They didn't jump ship and form Super Teams. The league is watered down now. Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Chris Mullen, Stockton and Malone were all Dream Teamers who didn't win Titles. Consider this as well; would Kevin Durrant have a Title if he stayed in OKC instead of going to GS? Even Lebron lost in the Finals when he was young in Cleveland and didn't start winning Titles until he was on a Super Team in Miami.
The Jazz went to the Western Conference Finals in 1992, 1994, 1996, 1997 and 1998 (5 times). In the late 80s when Stockton was younger, the Jazz had Stockton and Malone and very little else but they took the Lakers with Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Rambis, Scott, Copper and Thompson to a Game 7. The Lakers escaped and won Game 7 and went on to win another Title. But the Utah series was a hell of a series. The Jazz lost on a last second shot in LA in game 5 when the series was tied 2-2. Stockton had a monster game in LA that night with 23 points, 24 assists and 5 steals. The Jazz won game 6 but that could have been a close out game if the last seconds went different in game 5.
Also, Jordan and Pippen both said that their last two Titles out of the six they won were the toughest and that the Jazz were the best team they faced in their Title runs.
As great as he was, he was not the best. If he was, he'd have a title. Both Stockton's finals appearances were middling. He tended to wilt rather than rise in the playoffs. No killer instinct. And his left hand was super suspect, too.