Early Artiodactyls and Tylopods

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • Please enjoy this examination of basal Artiodactyls, which were surprisingly diverse and have a long evolutionary history. While some would have resembled modern ungulates, many genera were quite bizarre, looking like rabbits or even carnivorans.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 94

  • @Reyma777
    @Reyma777 Рік тому +52

    The Artiodactyls as a whole are probably the most diverse non-controversial order. To highlight some of the diversity, the order includes tree-climbing almost cat-like herbivores, pig-like predators, ruminants and fully aquatic, colossal filter feeders and mega predators.

    • @Reyma777
      @Reyma777 Рік тому +4

      @@indyreno2933 why is it that you keep replying to my comments with inaccurate, extremely long responses?

    • @dtxspeaks268
      @dtxspeaks268 Рік тому +5

      Euarcontaglirens, Xenarthrans, and Afroferians are diverse as well

    • @ivankwan9264
      @ivankwan9264 Рік тому

      For all readers in this comment thread:
      Just a reminder that "Indy Reno" is not a reliable or accurate source of zoological information. Much of what they keep stating and repeating is either outdated, not widely agreed upon, or simply completely made up. So you can safely disregard and ignore much of what they say, because they keep pretending that they know a lot about animals when so much of it is not even in the published zoological literature or mentioned by professional zoologists.

    • @riks081
      @riks081 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Reyma777 this person likes to do that, they have been called out plenty for made up and inaccurate information on this channel. I believe they have some issues.

    • @HogBurger
      @HogBurger Рік тому

      @@indyreno2933 Dude I see you on every animal video. Stop spreading misinformation. Honestly I’m tired of correcting you on your outdated beliefs

  • @camacakegd3714
    @camacakegd3714 Рік тому +38

    Another great video.
    You made a good point about academic paywalls too lol, really frustrating when trying to research really any of the non-dinosaur animals.

  • @riks081
    @riks081 Рік тому +27

    Thanks Doc. I had not heard of many of these fascinating animals, a lot of them don't look much like you would expect. Very interesting video.
    Also that fossil at 1.17 is quite nice.
    Looking forward to the kangaroos!

  • @genghiskhan6809
    @genghiskhan6809 Рік тому +7

    That last picture of the prehistoric kangaroo is truly something else

  • @eliletts8149
    @eliletts8149 Рік тому +5

    Wow! I never knew the tylopods had such diverse morphology in prehistoric times!

  • @laelaps5246
    @laelaps5246 Рік тому +9

    Bonus points for the correct pronounciation of the word "guanaco"!🎉

  • @bencake28
    @bencake28 Рік тому +16

    "Hello everyone, Dr. Polaris here"...
    And your evening is rescued. 🥳
    I ❤ your content so much. I learned with every episode a bit more. Just amazing! 🤓
    Keep going Dude! 🦖

  • @sauraplay2095
    @sauraplay2095 Рік тому +2

    Great video! Plus that last picture with the kangaroo about to grab that guy is horrifying.

  • @akashmitra6411
    @akashmitra6411 Рік тому +5

    This channel needs to grow big! So much info in such a simple yet elaborated manner. Kudos to Dr. Polaris ✌️ Lot's of love and support to you ❤️

  • @highfive7689
    @highfive7689 Рік тому +3

    Your comparative size depictions are fabulous, and give a useful visual reference for us. I hope to see more in other episodes. Wonderfully made doc!

  • @oatcakebabydaddy-dx4lw
    @oatcakebabydaddy-dx4lw Рік тому +1

    I love this person's videos. They are very well put together and informative.

  • @robmcelwee389
    @robmcelwee389 Рік тому +4

    Would love to see a vid on the diversity of balen whales of the Miocene-Pliocene. Or one on the Cetotherium of which only one of the family is left.

  • @EinarEle
    @EinarEle Рік тому +4

    Suggestion for future video: ant eaters - mammalian and dinosaur - shared morphology (including dentition) and what if anything termites and ants developed to counter them.

  • @georgebeauchamp3287
    @georgebeauchamp3287 Рік тому +1

    LOVE the "academic paywall" callout. I think a lot of folks would be happy to use their credentials to help you get articles though.

  • @gattycroc8073
    @gattycroc8073 Рік тому +2

    great video. you disserve more attention.

  • @bartolomeorizzo
    @bartolomeorizzo Рік тому +1

    Incredible video, as always. Waiting for recent unknown stuff like vishnuichtys

  • @jackhughesbooks
    @jackhughesbooks Рік тому +1

    This was GREAT!!!!!

  • @DragonFae16
    @DragonFae16 Рік тому +6

    It's interesting to me that Artiodactyls all started out of long thick tails, but none of the living species possess them today. True, whales do have long thick tails, but they use their tails for propulsion so don't really factor into this.

    • @scvcebc
      @scvcebc Рік тому +2

      That is probably because all early mammals seem to have had long, thick tails.

    • @DragonFae16
      @DragonFae16 Рік тому +3

      @@scvcebc Yes. But what is curious to me is the fact that all the extant herbivore species above a certain size greatly reduced the size of their tails. Some kind of evolutionary pressure must have existed that caused long tails to either be a detriment, or unnecessary.

    • @stefanofialho5484
      @stefanofialho5484 Рік тому +4

      @@DragonFae16 Probably because unlike most sauropsids and early synapsids mammals don't "use" their tails to walk/run rather relaying in their limbs for propulsion. There are mammals who have long tails and are cursorial (like cheetahs) but they use their tail as rudder rather than a direct running aid.

    • @DragonFae16
      @DragonFae16 Рік тому +3

      @@indyreno2933 Whales are part of Artiodactyla aka Artiodactyls. I said in my comment that they don't factor in. I mentioned them in case someone pointed to them and talked about how they still have long tails if I didn't bring them up.
      That aside, why did you feel the need to give a lecture about a plethora of species that don't even factor into the conversation? Did you just want to cudgel someone with your knowledge/googling skills? Your comment doesn't add anything constructive to the conversation. To be constructive, you would have had to add how each of those species/genera/orders factor into the discussion on the Artiodactyles greatly reducing their tails. Unless someone specifically asks for a full list of different genera, orders or families, a list like that is completely uncalled for. All you had to say was that they aren't closely related to living even-toed ungulates. No need to bring bats, shrews and the multitude of species up at all.

    • @DragonFae16
      @DragonFae16 Рік тому

      @@indyreno2933 And you must be bringing all those orders of mammals up because they are the ones responsible for ungulates losing their long tails. And here I thought it was the mermaid mafia because they had been paid with leprechaun gold.

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 Рік тому +1

    Incredible video about a new awesome group of prehistoric fauna topic :D
    And I wish you a great day

  • @RobertGotschall
    @RobertGotschall Рік тому +3

    I am usually overwhelmed by this group, thanks. While whale evolution needs its own time slot, I've never been sure how they fit into the ungulates.

    • @EternalEmperorofZakuul
      @EternalEmperorofZakuul Рік тому +2

      ​@@indyreno2933 in essence, orcas are the only ungulates that prey on carnivorans, seals

    • @ivankwan9264
      @ivankwan9264 Рік тому

      For all readers in this comment thread:
      Just a reminder that "Indy Reno" is not a reliable or accurate source of zoological information. Much of what they keep stating and repeating is either outdated, not widely agreed upon, or simply completely made up. So you can safely disregard and ignore much of what they say, because they keep pretending that they know a lot about animals when so much of it is not even in the published zoological literature or mentioned by professional zoologists.

  • @laprankster3264
    @laprankster3264 Рік тому +2

    There used to exist carnivorous land ungulates as well like the mesonychians. I wonder if the land ancestors of whales were herbivorous or whether they were omnivorous like the 1st ungulates probably were.

  • @thelaughinghyenas8465
    @thelaughinghyenas8465 Рік тому +4

    Cool, fascinating! Thank you for bringing these. I REALLY am looking forward to kangaroos!!!!! Their method of locomotion is unique. I keep wondering what drove that? We know cheetahs drove gazelles and the American cheetah-oid drove pronghorns to their fast forms. What drove kangaroos?

    • @thelaughinghyenas8465
      @thelaughinghyenas8465 Рік тому +2

      @Marshal Marrs , Marsupial lions were deadly but they were ambush predators. They were the REAL drop bears of Australian legend. The komodo dragon has a top speed of 12 MPH or around 19 kph. I don't see the kangaroo form giving an advantage against either.

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz Рік тому +1

    Interesting. Thank you

  • @hollyodii5969
    @hollyodii5969 Рік тому

    I really enjoy information about mammals from prehistory! Wonderful episode!

  • @beastmaster0934
    @beastmaster0934 Рік тому +3

    1:48
    I hate how a lot of Paleontology papers are hidden behind paywalls like that.
    It’s ridiculous!

    • @Albukhshi
      @Albukhshi Рік тому

      If you want a dumb example, go to the sed-strat stuff.
      There's one paper I know, from the 1960's, whose authors are long dead/retired.
      Still behind a $60 paywall...

    • @beastmaster0934
      @beastmaster0934 Рік тому +2

      @@Albukhshi
      You’re kidding!
      That’s absolute bulls**t!

  • @DraptorRonin
    @DraptorRonin Рік тому +1

    That Kangaroo picture at the end tho!
    >Kangaroo: Now boy, you put down that spear!
    >Aborigine: Welp, I'm f*cked.

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 Рік тому +1

    at 1 point there was no clean cut between hooves and claws

  • @shibolinemress8913
    @shibolinemress8913 Рік тому

    Wow, that last pic is nightmare fuel! 😱

  • @valivali8104
    @valivali8104 Рік тому +2

    I saw comment on somewhere in social media, maybe in twitter, where scientist told that scientists don’t get money from their studies, thus they are willing to send their papers for free if asked nicely.

  • @chancegivens9390
    @chancegivens9390 Рік тому

    Very neat! Alsooooh FUCK YEAH KANGAROOS!!!!!

  • @1998topornik
    @1998topornik Рік тому +2

    Great video! Eocene fauna is very underrepresented, some of these animals are very unique and interesting. Also I have question. Did made video about Deinotherium and its relatives? If my memory is correct there was one but now I cannot find it.

    • @dr.polaris6423
      @dr.polaris6423  Рік тому

      I did but it was copyright claimed and taken down.

    • @1998topornik
      @1998topornik Рік тому

      @@dr.polaris6423 Shame. Will you do remake of it?

    • @barbararice6650
      @barbararice6650 Рік тому

      @@dr.polaris6423
      Aren't some people miserable 😕

  • @MaryAnnNytowl
    @MaryAnnNytowl Рік тому +1

    Here to catch up, and leave a like and comment for that ever-voracious Almighty Algorithm, and all that stuff. 👋🏼😁👍🏼
    ❤️❤️

  • @user-je8ow5ll5t
    @user-je8ow5ll5t Рік тому

    Thank you greatly, it was really interesting!

  • @thanasisxaviaras4294
    @thanasisxaviaras4294 Рік тому

    wow Another great video

  • @bryson7166
    @bryson7166 Рік тому

    This was a great video! Can you make a next video about the Chapalmalania?

  • @PoshLifeforME
    @PoshLifeforME Рік тому

    Oof bring on the kangaroos vid. Love your work mate.

  • @Jillybear265
    @Jillybear265 Рік тому +1

    I want one.

  • @timokarff6162
    @timokarff6162 9 місяців тому

    9:06 could Sespia have looked like a hoofed capybara, maybe? Because the capybara is a large relative of the guinea pig?

  • @adriani9432
    @adriani9432 Рік тому +2

    Heliosus

  • @takenname8053
    @takenname8053 Рік тому

    Super Nice

  • @tinygrim
    @tinygrim Рік тому

    Thank you

  • @edwinreveron870
    @edwinreveron870 Рік тому +1

    Please make a video of Panthera Shawi, and their evolution into common leopards, Mosbach lions, today's lions, cave lions, American lions, and jaguars..

    • @edwinreveron870
      @edwinreveron870 Рік тому +1

      @@indyreno2933 -I'm not asking for the whole origin of felines, he already made a video that... I'm asking just for the one that gave way to today's lions, and closest relatives..

    • @ivankwan9264
      @ivankwan9264 Рік тому

      For all readers in this comment thread:
      Just a reminder that "Indy Reno" is not a reliable or accurate source of zoological information. Much of what they keep stating and repeating is either outdated, not widely agreed upon, or simply completely made up. So you can safely disregard and ignore much of what they say, because they keep pretending that they know a lot about animals when so much of it is not even in the published zoological literature or mentioned by professional zoologists.

  • @edwinreveron870
    @edwinreveron870 Рік тому +1

    Also, please make a video of the evolution of Panthera palaeosinensis, into Panthera blytheae, snow leopards, Panthera zdanskyi, and tigers...

    • @edwinreveron870
      @edwinreveron870 Рік тому +1

      @@indyreno2933 -Ones again, I'm not asking for the whole origin of felines, he already made a video that.. Here I'm asking just for the one that gave way to today's tigers, and closest relatives....

    • @ivankwan9264
      @ivankwan9264 Рік тому

      ​@@edwinreveron870 Besides, so much of what "Indy Reno" claims is outright false information; it's either outdated, or is even completely made up, like their attempted reclassification of Panthera - there's so much over there that is simply downright wrong and not recognised by professional zoologists.

  • @dynojackal1911
    @dynojackal1911 Рік тому

    I would like a return to your Alter-Earth videos, please.

  • @evilcow666
    @evilcow666 Рік тому +1

    Do you know when Cetaceans branched off from the rest of the artiodactyls

    • @ivankwan9264
      @ivankwan9264 Рік тому

      For all readers in this comment thread:
      Just a reminder that "Indy Reno" is not a reliable or accurate source of zoological information. Much of what they keep stating and repeating is either outdated, not widely agreed upon, or simply completely made up. So you can safely disregard and ignore much of what they say, because they keep pretending that they know a lot about animals when so much of it is not even in the published zoological literature or mentioned by professional zoologists.

  • @petrfedor1851
    @petrfedor1851 Рік тому

    Wake up, new "I know there is no way but I wanna pet it" bunch arrived!

  • @tm43977
    @tm43977 Рік тому +1

    Origin of the ruminants and Tylopods

    • @ivankwan9264
      @ivankwan9264 Рік тому

      For all readers in this comment thread:
      Just a reminder that "Indy Reno" is not a reliable or accurate source of zoological information. Much of what they keep stating and repeating is either outdated, not widely agreed upon, or simply completely made up. So you can safely disregard and ignore much of what they say, because they keep pretending that they know a lot about animals when so much of it is not even in the published zoological literature or mentioned by professional zoologists.

  • @RafaCB0987
    @RafaCB0987 Рік тому

    Trully a fascinent group of animals

    • @RafaCB0987
      @RafaCB0987 Рік тому

      @@indyreno2933 thanks for the information

    • @ivankwan9264
      @ivankwan9264 Рік тому

      For all readers in this comment thread:
      Just a reminder that "Indy Reno" is not a reliable or accurate source of zoological information. Much of what they keep stating and repeating is either outdated, not widely agreed upon, or simply completely made up. So you can safely disregard and ignore much of what they say, because they keep pretending that they know a lot about animals when so much of it is not even in the published zoological literature or mentioned by professional zoologists.

  • @goodbyesheesha
    @goodbyesheesha Рік тому

    ... Tide pods? No, I eat Tylopods (OOOOHHHHH!)
    I'm sorry.

    • @goodbyesheesha
      @goodbyesheesha Рік тому

      Also: 'the size of a goat' WHICH GOAT. Goats vary so much in size, plus more petting zoo goats tend to be 'pygmy' species and so people whom haven't spent time around farm goats have a skewed perspective. I have seen adult goats the height of a hefty housecat or corgi up to a dairy cow. Which is a pretty big difference-- what is the platonic ideal of the goat, in terms of size??????

  • @iceworld6104
    @iceworld6104 Рік тому

    i cant find most of these animals info online? does anyone have links with there information?

  • @flightlesslord2688
    @flightlesslord2688 Рік тому

    Tylopods sounds like something babies shouldn't eat but do.

  • @titanomachy2217
    @titanomachy2217 Рік тому

    Wow I never knew oreodonts were tylopods, weird.

  • @dagoodboy6424
    @dagoodboy6424 Рік тому

    Helohyid future vid?

  • @noncat3218
    @noncat3218 Рік тому

    3:50 Me (Peruvian): WTF

    • @reeyees50
      @reeyees50 Рік тому

      Tomando chicha con mis guanacos😂

  • @ghulamahmad2916
    @ghulamahmad2916 Рік тому

    🦌🐮🐂🐃🐄🐷🐖🐗🐽🐏🐑🐐🐪🐫🦙🦒🦛

  • @lordcrusheryt
    @lordcrusheryt Рік тому +1

    heheheha first

  • @barbararice6650
    @barbararice6650 Рік тому

    Because these things couldn't read or write all their culture is a mystery to us 😔