What’s funny about sound is I can’t bring myself to buy a loco without sound, but I end up running trains 85% of the time with the sound off lol. It’s just nice to have the option, although it would be nice if that option didn’t cost another $100…..
Just getting started I think the way I’m going to overcome that is just use one engine with sound and the second without and have dedicated lash-ups but heck I’m still trying to decide bedroom shelf layout 12x12 or a 30”x8’ with an option for a 12’ x22” area for a yard/staging area
I didn't think I wanted sound until I bought the Broadway Ltd T-1. Later bought a Bachmann Hudson. I started to look at my Kato PA and E units differently after that.
"Just Get Started" -- 4 years into my planning phase, I feel personally attacked ;) Thanks for this video, very well done and useful. Plus always great to see more Canadian n-scale content!
Excellent! Loved your upbeat and candid presentation. You said just enough without veering into the weeds. That approach keeps folks from dozing off. Your advice was spot on. Even though I'm an experienced model railroader, I still learned something. Looking forward to more videos like this. Thank You
Half way through this video at time of typing, but feel compelled to say as someone with no Fricken clue what I’m doing yet or where to start, this is the best and most easily follow-able video I’ve come across so far. I’m taking notes. People like me need to know what equipment I need, then basic ideas of where and how that stuff is gonna be used or needed, and then some direction on how to get going. Anyway just wanted to say thank you for being so concise and without drowning it out with “inside” lingo. All the videos have been good, but this one has had a larger impact so I appreciate it for me. Rock on my friend, I’m sure I’ll see more now that I’m subscribed…..after I finally get back to sleep anyway hah
A few extra suggestions from someone who is building a layout on a very tight budget: 1. Check piles of junk, especially outside buildings being refurbished. I started building my layout when I found three gaming (as in card games) tables, metal frames and folding legs, for the base. I then took a pile of laminated flooring strips someone was throwing away to use for the skirting and backscene. I also pinched a cupful of sand and one of gravel from builders' supplies outside a property to use for scenery. 2. Reuse and repurpose items - containers can be use for industrial bits and pieces. Broken or discarded model buildings can be made into other stuff. I once used the walls of an HO hut as the walls of an N gauge factory. The sides of flat plastic containers can be used for modelling buildings, etc. Save sawdust - I'm pretty sure you used to be able to buy bags of sawdust as a useful product. Mixed with paint, it makes good scenic scatter. 3. Make a list of what you want to buy and check it off - don't just buy anything that looks good or is a bargain. Check prices of second-hand goods against the prices at your favourite store. There is often not much difference and sometimes the new version is cheaper. 4. Use thick card, thin card and cartridge paper whenever possible for models instead of styrene. It is cheaper and easier to work with - you can fold it and it won't split when cut. Cartridge paper when painted both sides with acrylic is pretty sturdy. 5. Remember that even if a scratchbuilt item does not look perfect, you can always go back and replace it later. 6. You will see every little fault on your layout, fellow modellers may see a few but your neighbour will probably think that your work is amazing so accept the compliment! 7. Budget at the outset, set how much you are prepared to spend each month and then plan how much you can buy at any given time until the layout is finished.
This Was The Best Vlog Ive Ever Seen With ALL the Right Advice to Model Layout Makers I Couldn't Fault Any Of That Advice and I'm From the Uk And Built a Few Train Layouts Over The Years IM 73 Take It From Me Use This Advice You Wont Go Wrong Awesome Vlog Thanks
A really great video for folk who are yet to start their layout, or who have just started. You've covered a lot in a video that isn't too long for people to watch in one sitting, but not so short that people won't come back to it as a reference in future if they want to refresh during building. I would add an additional point on designing in the ability to expand - which is design your complete layout but with a clear section in mind to start building from. Pick a section that will be fun to operate by itself. Mine is a switching layout and I started by building the main yard/'staging area'. I had a ton of fun working the yard while completing and detailing it, before moving on to the next 'job' the railroad does and building that section of the layout. Added sections also reflected other 'jobs' the railroad serviced beyond the yard. If another section 'stalled' for some reason, going back to working the yard always kept me motivated. Someone building mainline ops might start by building two signature scenes, then completing the section between. For me at least, building out the layout and operations from a 'central' or focus point kept me engaged knowing I had already 'completed' that first section.
Getting ready to start building my 3rd HO scale layout and the biggest. Came across your video and first one. So many good tips for all modelers. Enjoyed it thoroughly and looking forward for more. Keep Railing🤠
Great advice all the way around. I have learned a lot from folks like you and many others. I am currently tearing up half my layout and starting again. Ideas change. Thanks my friend. Cheers 🍻
Thank you, most helpful. Its taking me forever to dive into my scenery, i feel im no good at it. But your words of inspiration. Is getting me motivated to just go for it.
Happy Holidays. I watched your video from Barcelona (Spain) and it's one of the best recommendation videos I've seen in years. Congratulations. I just subscribed to your channel to watch all the previous ones and follow you. Recommendation 20 is the best...that's how I am, with everything bought and prepared...but I don't dare to start, I always find an excuse to review something...it's like stage fright. Thanks for your advice.
I’m so new to this I haven’t started yet. This is the best video I have ever watched on this!!! THANK YOU I know this took a lot to film edit and upload.
Building the layout ….that’s what I love. That, and detailing / weathering the equipment. N scale strikes a nice balance for me to accomplish my goals.
I'm currently working on an N scale winter project, a small 2x4ft layout to decide if I can get along with the small size of N vs the HO stuff that I had originally started planning and collecting. I plan to eventually build a layout around the walls of my hobby room. N may fit the space I have better allowing for more to fit with decent runs between places. The first N scale project I am working on will be a loop with a siding inside to have an engine shed and fueling spot, and a branch inside that goes to a couple industries to disguise an inglenook puzzle. This will allow for a switcher in the branch and another engine making laps on the loop, and some swapping of groups of 5 cars. I also plan to use some of the HO stuff to do a small shelf switching setup that will also have an inglenook in it... between the two I can decide fully what scale to build personally. Nothing will have grades for now, and I might add grades to my permanent build, but I might not and just use elevations in the scenery to give my layout the mountain railroad feel that I am after. I think DC is great for getting started, and is definitely a legit choice for fairly simple layouts, especially anything that will only have one train running at a time, even if there will be more than one train, just not more than one running at a time. DCC is super awesome and if the budget allows should definitely be the choice for most railroads, especially with any amount of operations, it just opens so many doors to add super cool stuff. I think sound is RAD, and should be added to any setup if possible, I don't however feel the need for ALL my engines to have sound, a mix is good if you find engines you want that don't have sound, as long as some engines running on the layout do have sound. BUT, it's just so cool that I can't fault anyone who wants EVERY engine to have sound, ....or at least 1 engine in every consist? I think I will most definitely have some lighting, in buildings and such, and have some cool night running... it ads a lot of awesome options to make really cool scenes. Signs, cars and vehicles, interiors in buildings, etc... lots of awesome uses for some LEDS and lighting. My initial projects will be portable, I will have the shelf on some brackets probably, at least for storing, but I may also set it up on a table for use at times, unless I can set it up as a shelf in a spot where I can operate it. The portable N scale layout may get short legs or leveling feet, to use it on a folding table when it's in use. Soooo many options for benchwork. I initially thought 2" foam was the ticket, and that is what is on my 2x4ft setup. I think I may go with 1/5" or 1" for my permanent build. Not sure if the shelf setup will have any foam at all aside from a couple small hills to plant trees in. I'm using Kato for the N scale build, and utilizing some Bachmann HO track for the shelf experiment. For permanent builds I definitely think flex is the way to go in most cases. I really do like the Kato track, and for small-medium stuff I think it is the only sectional track that I'd use for anything permanent. Good trackwork and wiring is definitely important, a layout that runs without issues is going to be much more fun that constantly dealing with problems and derailments. Trainshows are awesome! I recently got my first stuff at a local show, and scored some Kato track, as well as a great price on my first group of rolling stock. My first N scale engine was also from this show, with sound and dcc for 100$ and it runs nicely. A handful of years ago I started the journey with some HO stuff from a show, and also found a vendor there selling NCE stuff and picked up my DCC equipment there. I have added some items from the local train stores, and also a couple online shops, but the shows is where I've bought most of my stuff. I don't have a 3D printer nor do I plan to get one anytime soon, but I do hope to get some printed stuff like buildings, and have a couple friends that might be able to print things for me... or there's the pre-printed online stuff. I like the extra variety vs just commercial kits, even if just adding extra details to the kit's that are out there. After a few years of basically just collecting some things, and getting out a loop of track from time to time, and even letting it all sit unused at all for a couple years , I am glad to be getting started this winter... Cheers and thanks for the videos!
One tool you didn't mention -- a spirit level. A longer one (36"+) for your overall layout building; and a smaller one for track grades (such as a digital one that can give readings in percent as well as degrees) are essential to make sure your layout is level and grades consistent. You cannot rely on the floors or walls of your home to be perfectly level or plumb.
Great video, never thought of leg levelers, now to go find some and take out my crude shims. basement floors unfinished are not 100% flat, especially in older houses- testify! lol
Very cool video, I have a 15x10 space in my basement I'm planning to fill with a N Scale Conrail layout, the Great Train Show will be in Indianapolis Indiana shortly so I'm going to load up on some Conrail freight cars and locomotives and a Caboose or two since I'm going to model the mid 80s !!!
Avoid a lot of expensive plywood for a base beneath the foam. Instead, just build skeletal box frames from 1x2” lumber to hold 2” thick foam, with adequately spaced support boards underneath. Use the extra-long (1 3/16”) straight pins to hold cork roadbed and track in place. In addition to making it really easy to reposition track later, the foam is not subject to expansion/contraction from changes in heat and humidity.
Great video ! I am doing HO. However, I agree with everything you covered. My tools are almost identical to yours. I use the HO TrackSetta tools constantly (including the straight one) when laying out my track. For benchwork framing I got good quality 3/4 ply ripped into 3/4 x 3-1/2x8 ft strips. They are much straighter than the highest quality pine and less expensive.
Tip zero 0: Get the room for the layout ready. Insulation, drywall, flooring (concrete is cold and hard), electrical and a 100 other things about the room I forgot.
Number one thing is to install the lighting first. It's easier to install without benchwork underneath. Then everything you put on the layout will be as you will see it, color rendering wise. It also makes building anything easier as whatever section you want to work on is already lit.
Absolutely! My current layout room is a fully “finished” room in my basement. Proper walls, ceiling, floors - before I started my layout. And I installed bright lighting as a I built the benchwork. Much better than building a layout in an unfinished (or partially finished) basement room.
Excellent video. Information like this is hard to find. That said, I also use AnyRail for track design. While it takes time to learn, I recommend it. The best thing about using track design s/w is that, if you have lots of space, and "grand ideas" to fill that space with a giant layout, you can design in STAGES. Too big of a layout, is intimidating and hard to get completed. Creating stages will allow you to finish, or at least get a running layout, earlier. For example, you can include a spur or a turnout in the first stage design, that will let you start the next stage. You can also stage your power, scenery/industries, and budget. Finally, perfecting your modeling techniques as you go, is another benefit.
That advice about getting started, ain't that the truth! I procrastinated for nearly a year and then life got in the way and put me back another six months... But now things are underway and moving along nicely! I hope to start landscaping within the next month or two as long as life doesn't rear its ugly head again! Lol!
Good video. Sorry this is long, but as an old modeler, my advice to a beginner is to NOT build the maximum layout he has space for. There are so many large layouts started by beginners that are abandoned. Even the masters in model railroading started out small. Some of them even built their small layout to incorporate into a larger layout later. Look at John Allen's famous layout. There is a small layout in the middle. With the small layout a beginner can "hone" their layout construction skills. Learn the best bench work construction methods. Learn track laying and wiring. Learn about scenery. The beginner will learn a lot from starting with a small layout while keeping that railroad empire in the back of their mind. There was a time we referred to the small layout as a chainsaw layout. You build it while learning the hobby. When you are ready for that larger layout, you salvage all the items, track, etc. for the next build, then take a chainsaw to it. Or give that small layout with all its mistakes to a nephew to learn on. On the next rendition of your layout it will be easier and better because of what you learned from the first layout. Some of the most detailed, eye catching layouts today are small layouts. Some of us older modelers are downsizing because that large layout is just too much to maintain. So we are building something smaller. Some of us will change scales during the years as we model. I know a lot of beginners buy what they like and buy a lot of trains. We all do it in the beginning. That can be an expensive. I recommend you keep some sort of inventory of what you have when attending model train shows. It can be a print out or a device that holds your inventory. You are going to see something at the show you think will fit right in with your layout, you will buy it, then when you get home you discover you already have four of the same car, same road number. Later on comes thinning process. Selling off all those "must haves" you thought you just had to have. Instead, go talk to other modelers. Go to model train shows. Visit clubs. Pick their brains and experience. Ask about the things they did wrong. They will tell you. Buy magazines about railroads you are interested in or operated in your area. Do your homework. Then to be budget minded, choose an era to model. The most popular era is transition era, Steam to Diesel, that allows one to have both operating on their layout. Chose a date range. For example, 1960 -1970 or 2020 to now. You can narrow it or expand it. Then when you are buying trains, keep your purchases in that build range. Resist the urge to buy anything outside your chosen date range. You will save lots of money. One of the things that can sabotage a large layout is a house move. In my experience, each move caused by a career move offered less space than the previous layout would fit in. Where we live now basements are rare due to the water table. Build your layout to be portable/moveable. Use lag bolts and wing nuts to hold the sections together. Build it so it can come apart in sections to fit through doors and stairwells. You might end up in a larger space to expand your layout or smaller space that the layout is just 10 inches too long to fit in. Before cutting any wood, one of the most critical things in model railroading is a plan. It doesn't matter if you hand draw it or create it on the computer. Make a plan. When making that plan, share it with others in the hobby for suggestions on how to make it better. Put it away for two weeks while you mull it over. You are going to think of changes to make it better. Then put it away again. Once you and your fellow modelers can't come up with improvements to the plan, then start cutting wood. Stick to the plan! You will save some money.
Just found your channel through this video, might have to go through your series now, a lot of helpful tips and a great looking layout. Also, love the Jeff Burton hat, or is it Ryan Newman?
Two lower cost options: For sound when you want it on DC locomotives, Kato Soundbox with sound cards. Not cheap, but much less complicated or costly compared to DCC setup and locomotives. Build your own DCC system for your DCC locomotives. About to try that using the DCC-EX codes…about 10% the cost of commercial systems and looks like fun to build.
Hey, brother. I'd like to suggest adjusting the verbiage of your "grizzly grates". They are NOT grates. They ARE an embossed version of a grate. Thanks, cheers!
Great video! You listed the air compressor for painting and I have heard that they’re a pain to clean is that true? Also how about model railroad clubs? I joined one and definitely a good place to run your trains while you’re building your own layout. Thanks
Air brushes are harder to clean than paint brushes that's for sure, but its not too bad. Dump remaining paint, run water through it until 95% clean. Run IPA or Acetone through, including a back purge until no more color pigment is coming out. The trick is to not let the air brush sit and let the paint cure. There are times when a full disassembly is required to thoroughly clean, but its not too bad either. Clubs are a wonderful place run trains. Often huge layouts and good community. I can't comment on it much as I am not part of a club. I couldn't say if all clubs are equal in what to expect either.
I’ve belong to a couple of clubs over the years. Some are more quirky than others. I belong to one now which I think it’s pretty good. Thank fir the info on the air brush.
Hey! Love your layout and content man! Just purchased a collection of BCOL and CP locomotives/cars the new Atlas RS-2 and RS-3 locomotives are beautiful and an easy conversion to DCC.
Great video!!! Not that I need another hobby, but I am looking at getting back into HO-scale. I can't think of a single hobby that hasn't been impacted and benefitted from 3D printing. My main geekage is scale RC semi trucks and equipment, as well as 1/10 scale crawlers. Being able to design and print my own parts has really transformed the hobby for me, and kept it interesting. I also use 3D printing in off-roading (SXS) and ham radio; I do not use any 3D printing for my Lego hobby, I am a bit of a purist. With that, you do have to be careful with 3D printing, some of the print materials are very toxic. PLA and PETG are fairly safe, but reasonable ventilation is still recommended. Any other filaments like ABS, ASA, and other exotic blends should have dedicated exhaust systems used when printing; carbon filters in enclosed printers just mask the smell, but do little to block to toxic chemicals. It is hard to capture the necessary detail in FDM printing for N-scale, and fine detail (along with speed) is where resin printing shines. However, resin printing is extremely toxic, and requires the most safety measures.
I believe resin is the way to go for N scale to get the decent details. But you are right, there are some draw backs that need to be accounted for. At least in the manufacturing and processing department. Once cured, they are safe to handle. Thanks for watching
great video... I am wanting to try my hand at weathering a dummy unit I have. I don't have an air brush, but I do have powders do you have any advice on how to make it look like the locomotive has been used hard...
heavy use with just weathering powders might be tough. They are great for highlighting edges and what not. I haven't done any weathering on locomotives or rolling stock though.
I'm just about to get back into building model railways.. yes. Plural. I've bought almost (more than) I need. First goal is updating, track repair, rewiring a 4 foot by 6 ft N scale that is two separate levels and making it train accessible to both levels. It's fairly old and built with 2 * 4, 1 x 4, and half inch ply ( Maybe the original Builder was planning on standing on it?) Then a 3 ft by 10 ft N scale repairing track, wiring Etc far enough along so that if and when I go to hospice I will at least have a running train Empire to play with as well as still have some scenery Etc to work on. ( I've already got the okay from hospice. Turns out doctors are not always right, I was supposed to be in hospice two and a half years ago. It's not that I'm fighting the good fight it's that I'm a procrastinator! I will get around to dying I'm just a little busy right now) all this to say that even with my experience this was an exceptionally good video regardless of experience and if someone who was to get into the hobby with no prior knowledge and wanted to watch only one video, this is the one I would recommend. Even in my case just getting back into the hobby it was an excellent Refresher and even thinking that " I have all the things!" I don't have all the things LOL. I plan on selling the 4X 6 but it's also going to get me back into the... rhythm? Of building a model Railway once those two are done call Mom then I plan on starting on my" dream layout ". So very glad that I watched this video and thank you so much for putting the video together. You have managed to show what's needed along with explanations as to why each individual tool is needed. Once again thank you very much for the video. This might be one of those cases where " I've forgotten more than you'll ever know! " 😂 And yes there's a lot I have forgotten so thank you for this!
Man this some awesome info! I'm new to the hobby and was just gifted a bunch of N scale stuff. One question I'd like some clarification on, you mentioned soldering your track together. Do you also use the rail joiner clips or just solder? Thanks for the vid!
About crawling under the layout to do electrical work...build your layout sectionally, like modules. Then with removing (a) small section(s) of track, and undoing a couple of wing nuts, the section can be pulled out, stood on end, and worked on all day long. All the electrical work should be done and working perfectly before any scenery is installed. Do it this way and you'll never do it any other way again.
Great Video/Great Channel!!! At my RR Club here in Minot ND we show UA-cam channels showing layout work, wiring/scene work and locomotive/ rolling stock from other great YT Channels and it really is a hit for visitors. Would you mind if we put some of yours in the rotation to display at the club. We’ve had an uncomfortable number of visitors write down these pages or immediately looked the channel up on their phones
Hi Nscaler454 , that was a very helpful video. You could have went a little more in-depth with some tips but we would still be watching L O L. I always enjoy watching your videos. They are helpful and intreating. Thanks for sharing. Have a good week. 😎😎 👍
No specific one. I would find a cheap one like I have in the video. Being able to control your pressure is a must and having a water separator is a good feature to have. I would recommend ones that come with an airbrush, even if the airbrush is on low quality side.
"Cost effective" Yea!! There's NOTHING - And I mean NOTHING more that will kill the interest and ambition of any hobby - including the model railroad hobby than to buy expensive and overly expensive items for the hobby. But with that said, a brand new locomotive with sound could be an exception. But when it comes to items like flex track vs. Kato Unitrack, I'd definitely go flex. It's ALOT less costly and as mentioned; looks ALOT more realistic. Nothing wrong with Kato but I find it either more expensive and you're limited to the curves. Awesome video too, BTW!!
Costs of this hobby are painful. Even if you manage to build a layout for a respectable cost, if you want to run 3 locos and just 20 cars, you need to dish out another $1000+.
I tip I recommend is what locos and rolling stock do you have is it American if so make it american themed if it’s European stuff then set it in Europe the country stuff is for you to decide as I know barley anything about Europe railways and even if your railway only operates on the west don’t let that restrict you feel free to make it a little unrealistic and add spots from the eastern side if you want. Hopefully this helps you
Argh ! I am sorry for you but UA-cam has automatically translated your title and all your chapters in French, but how they did is making reference to some "page layout" on a document and not about a "train layout" ! If you want to avoid your videos to be translated in some crapy way to other languages, you can find how to change change your settings in the video "UA-cam please STOP Auto Translating Video Titles" by Brodie Robertson. I did not find yet how to change on the viewer's side. Cheers. :)
My Wife and I Are Ho/N and We Love it my Ho Is 2 4x8’s in A L Shape my Wife Has a Single 4x8 Then My Wife’s N Scale is A Monster L.My N Scale is 11x8. and We Go Dc.
Hey Larry, I'm 77 and just started 2 years ago. Knock on wood I have many more years to finish my layout, but every time I "think" I'm done I go and expand it. 😊
What’s funny about sound is I can’t bring myself to buy a loco without sound, but I end up running trains 85% of the time with the sound off lol. It’s just nice to have the option, although it would be nice if that option didn’t cost another $100…..
So true. Hard to equate how a sugar cube speaker that costs a few bucks and a little more installation labor costs $100 more.
I’m actually fine without the sounds. I just wanna hear the clicking of the wheels going over the tracks.
Just getting started I think the way I’m going to overcome that is just use one engine with sound and the second without and have dedicated lash-ups but heck I’m still trying to decide bedroom shelf layout 12x12 or a 30”x8’ with an option for a 12’ x22” area for a yard/staging area
I didn't think I wanted sound until I bought the Broadway Ltd T-1. Later bought a Bachmann Hudson. I started to look at my Kato PA and E units differently after that.
I cant stand the sound of he tiny tinny speakers. lol
"Just Get Started" -- 4 years into my planning phase, I feel personally attacked ;) Thanks for this video, very well done and useful. Plus always great to see more Canadian n-scale content!
Great video. Even better a chance to see you in front of the camera instead of behind it!
Excellent! Loved your upbeat and candid presentation. You said just enough without veering into the weeds. That approach keeps folks from dozing off. Your advice was spot on. Even though I'm an experienced model railroader, I still learned something. Looking forward to more videos like this. Thank You
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Half way through this video at time of typing, but feel compelled to say as someone with no Fricken clue what I’m doing yet or where to start, this is the best and most easily follow-able video I’ve come across so far. I’m taking notes. People like me need to know what equipment I need, then basic ideas of where and how that stuff is gonna be used or needed, and then some direction on how to get going. Anyway just wanted to say thank you for being so concise and without drowning it out with “inside” lingo. All the videos have been good, but this one has had a larger impact so I appreciate it for me. Rock on my friend, I’m sure I’ll see more now that I’m subscribed…..after I finally get back to sleep anyway hah
Thank you so much!
A few extra suggestions from someone who is building a layout on a very tight budget:
1. Check piles of junk, especially outside buildings being refurbished. I started building my layout when I found three gaming (as in card games) tables, metal frames and folding legs, for the base. I then took a pile of laminated flooring strips someone was throwing away to use for the skirting and backscene. I also pinched a cupful of sand and one of gravel from builders' supplies outside a property to use for scenery.
2. Reuse and repurpose items - containers can be use for industrial bits and pieces. Broken or discarded model buildings can be made into other stuff. I once used the walls of an HO hut as the walls of an N gauge factory. The sides of flat plastic containers can be used for modelling buildings, etc. Save sawdust - I'm pretty sure you used to be able to buy bags of sawdust as a useful product. Mixed with paint, it makes good scenic scatter.
3. Make a list of what you want to buy and check it off - don't just buy anything that looks good or is a bargain. Check prices of second-hand goods against the prices at your favourite store. There is often not much difference and sometimes the new version is cheaper.
4. Use thick card, thin card and cartridge paper whenever possible for models instead of styrene. It is cheaper and easier to work with - you can fold it and it won't split when cut. Cartridge paper when painted both sides with acrylic is pretty sturdy.
5. Remember that even if a scratchbuilt item does not look perfect, you can always go back and replace it later.
6. You will see every little fault on your layout, fellow modellers may see a few but your neighbour will probably think that your work is amazing so accept the compliment!
7. Budget at the outset, set how much you are prepared to spend each month and then plan how much you can buy at any given time until the layout is finished.
This Was The Best Vlog Ive Ever Seen With ALL the Right Advice to Model Layout Makers I Couldn't Fault Any Of That Advice and I'm From the Uk And Built a Few Train Layouts Over The Years IM 73 Take It From Me Use This Advice You Wont Go Wrong Awesome Vlog Thanks
A really great video for folk who are yet to start their layout, or who have just started. You've covered a lot in a video that isn't too long for people to watch in one sitting, but not so short that people won't come back to it as a reference in future if they want to refresh during building.
I would add an additional point on designing in the ability to expand - which is design your complete layout but with a clear section in mind to start building from. Pick a section that will be fun to operate by itself. Mine is a switching layout and I started by building the main yard/'staging area'. I had a ton of fun working the yard while completing and detailing it, before moving on to the next 'job' the railroad does and building that section of the layout. Added sections also reflected other 'jobs' the railroad serviced beyond the yard. If another section 'stalled' for some reason, going back to working the yard always kept me motivated. Someone building mainline ops might start by building two signature scenes, then completing the section between. For me at least, building out the layout and operations from a 'central' or focus point kept me engaged knowing I had already 'completed' that first section.
Of course we all know that N Scale is the right answer!
Fantastic bunch of tips for the beginner as well as those that are already into it. Thanks for sharing.
Getting ready to start building my 3rd HO scale layout and the biggest. Came across your video and first one. So many good tips for all modelers. Enjoyed it thoroughly and looking forward for more. Keep Railing🤠
Great advice all the way around. I have learned a lot from folks like you and many others. I am currently tearing up half my layout and starting again. Ideas change. Thanks my friend. Cheers 🍻
It's part of the process and I'm sure the changes will make you happier.
Thank you, most helpful. Its taking me forever to dive into my scenery, i feel im no good at it. But your words of inspiration. Is getting me motivated to just go for it.
That makes me happy. I wouldn't worry at all, I'm sure you'll be able to it.
@nscaler454 thank you, Merry Christmas
Happy Holidays. I watched your video from Barcelona (Spain) and it's one of the best recommendation videos I've seen in years. Congratulations. I just subscribed to your channel to watch all the previous ones and follow you. Recommendation 20 is the best...that's how I am, with everything bought and prepared...but I don't dare to start, I always find an excuse to review something...it's like stage fright. Thanks for your advice.
Great video. You covered so many great topics.
I’m so new to this I haven’t started yet. This is the best video I have ever watched on this!!! THANK YOU I know this took a lot to film edit and upload.
Thank you!
Building the layout ….that’s what I love. That, and detailing / weathering the equipment. N scale strikes a nice balance for me to accomplish my goals.
Wow, it's good to see you in front of the camera. Great work on the layout.
I'm currently working on an N scale winter project, a small 2x4ft layout to decide if I can get along with the small size of N vs the HO stuff that I had originally started planning and collecting. I plan to eventually build a layout around the walls of my hobby room. N may fit the space I have better allowing for more to fit with decent runs between places.
The first N scale project I am working on will be a loop with a siding inside to have an engine shed and fueling spot, and a branch inside that goes to a couple industries to disguise an inglenook puzzle. This will allow for a switcher in the branch and another engine making laps on the loop, and some swapping of groups of 5 cars. I also plan to use some of the HO stuff to do a small shelf switching setup that will also have an inglenook in it... between the two I can decide fully what scale to build personally. Nothing will have grades for now, and I might add grades to my permanent build, but I might not and just use elevations in the scenery to give my layout the mountain railroad feel that I am after.
I think DC is great for getting started, and is definitely a legit choice for fairly simple layouts, especially anything that will only have one train running at a time, even if there will be more than one train, just not more than one running at a time. DCC is super awesome and if the budget allows should definitely be the choice for most railroads, especially with any amount of operations, it just opens so many doors to add super cool stuff. I think sound is RAD, and should be added to any setup if possible, I don't however feel the need for ALL my engines to have sound, a mix is good if you find engines you want that don't have sound, as long as some engines running on the layout do have sound. BUT, it's just so cool that I can't fault anyone who wants EVERY engine to have sound, ....or at least 1 engine in every consist?
I think I will most definitely have some lighting, in buildings and such, and have some cool night running... it ads a lot of awesome options to make really cool scenes. Signs, cars and vehicles, interiors in buildings, etc... lots of awesome uses for some LEDS and lighting.
My initial projects will be portable, I will have the shelf on some brackets probably, at least for storing, but I may also set it up on a table for use at times, unless I can set it up as a shelf in a spot where I can operate it. The portable N scale layout may get short legs or leveling feet, to use it on a folding table when it's in use. Soooo many options for benchwork. I initially thought 2" foam was the ticket, and that is what is on my 2x4ft setup. I think I may go with 1/5" or 1" for my permanent build. Not sure if the shelf setup will have any foam at all aside from a couple small hills to plant trees in.
I'm using Kato for the N scale build, and utilizing some Bachmann HO track for the shelf experiment. For permanent builds I definitely think flex is the way to go in most cases. I really do like the Kato track, and for small-medium stuff I think it is the only sectional track that I'd use for anything permanent. Good trackwork and wiring is definitely important, a layout that runs without issues is going to be much more fun that constantly dealing with problems and derailments.
Trainshows are awesome! I recently got my first stuff at a local show, and scored some Kato track, as well as a great price on my first group of rolling stock. My first N scale engine was also from this show, with sound and dcc for 100$ and it runs nicely. A handful of years ago I started the journey with some HO stuff from a show, and also found a vendor there selling NCE stuff and picked up my DCC equipment there. I have added some items from the local train stores, and also a couple online shops, but the shows is where I've bought most of my stuff.
I don't have a 3D printer nor do I plan to get one anytime soon, but I do hope to get some printed stuff like buildings, and have a couple friends that might be able to print things for me... or there's the pre-printed online stuff. I like the extra variety vs just commercial kits, even if just adding extra details to the kit's that are out there.
After a few years of basically just collecting some things, and getting out a loop of track from time to time, and even letting it all sit unused at all for a couple years , I am glad to be getting started this winter...
Cheers and thanks for the videos!
As always a fantastic video. I look forward to every one you do.
Thank you!
Thank you very much from Madrid, Spain
Excellent advice.
Damn, I just can't wait to hear all of your informative suggestions.....
Great video! Tons of useful information and advice. I am so glad i watched this before I started building my layout!
One tool you didn't mention -- a spirit level. A longer one (36"+) for your overall layout building; and a smaller one for track grades (such as a digital one that can give readings in percent as well as degrees) are essential to make sure your layout is level and grades consistent. You cannot rely on the floors or walls of your home to be perfectly level or plumb.
Great catch! Levels are a must
HI Nscaler454 & it's is Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks Nscaler454 & Friends Randy
Great video, never thought of leg levelers, now to go find some and take out my crude shims. basement floors unfinished are not 100% flat, especially in older houses- testify! lol
Very cool video, I have a 15x10 space in my basement I'm planning to fill with a N Scale
Conrail layout, the Great Train Show will be in Indianapolis Indiana shortly so I'm going to
load up on some Conrail freight cars and locomotives and a Caboose or two since I'm going to model the mid 80s !!!
Great video. Well done! Happy New Year!
Thanks. Happy New Year
Thanks for the tips my Friend.😊😊👍👍
Avoid a lot of expensive plywood for a base beneath the foam. Instead, just build skeletal box frames from 1x2” lumber to hold 2” thick foam, with adequately spaced support boards underneath. Use the extra-long (1 3/16”) straight pins to hold cork roadbed and track in place. In addition to making it really easy to reposition track later, the foam is not subject to expansion/contraction from changes in heat and humidity.
Great video ! I am doing HO. However, I agree with everything you covered. My tools are almost identical to yours. I use the HO TrackSetta tools constantly (including the straight one) when laying out my track. For benchwork framing I got good quality 3/4 ply ripped into 3/4 x 3-1/2x8 ft strips. They are much straighter than the highest quality pine and less expensive.
Tip zero 0: Get the room for the layout ready. Insulation, drywall, flooring (concrete is cold and hard), electrical and a 100 other things about the room I forgot.
agreed.
Number one thing is to install the lighting first. It's easier to install without benchwork underneath. Then everything you put on the layout will be as you will see it, color rendering wise. It also makes building anything easier as whatever section you want to work on is already lit.
Absolutely! My current layout room is a fully “finished” room in my basement. Proper walls, ceiling, floors - before I started my layout. And I installed bright lighting as a I built the benchwork. Much better than building a layout in an unfinished (or partially finished) basement room.
Excellent video. Information like this is hard to find. That said, I also use AnyRail for track design. While it takes time to learn, I recommend it. The best thing about using track design s/w is that, if you have lots of space, and "grand ideas" to fill that space with a giant layout, you can design in STAGES. Too big of a layout, is intimidating and hard to get completed. Creating stages will allow you to finish, or at least get a running layout, earlier. For example, you can include a spur or a turnout in the first stage design, that will let you start the next stage. You can also stage your power, scenery/industries, and budget. Finally, perfecting your modeling techniques as you go, is another benefit.
I absolutely agree
Nice video! I liked it, as being an old modeler...
you can control the volume on sound decoders, so with sound would be smart, Mute it if you are running too many at a time
For sure with some you can, maybe it's possible with all of them. My BLI SW7 was super loud of the box and I was able to reduce the volume.
That advice about getting started, ain't that the truth! I procrastinated for nearly a year and then life got in the way and put me back another six months... But now things are underway and moving along nicely! I hope to start landscaping within the next month or two as long as life doesn't rear its ugly head again! Lol!
Good video. Sorry this is long, but as an old modeler, my advice to a beginner is to NOT build the maximum layout he has space for. There are so many large layouts started by beginners that are abandoned. Even the masters in model railroading started out small. Some of them even built their small layout to incorporate into a larger layout later. Look at John Allen's famous layout. There is a small layout in the middle. With the small layout a beginner can "hone" their layout construction skills. Learn the best bench work construction methods. Learn track laying and wiring. Learn about scenery. The beginner will learn a lot from starting with a small layout while keeping that railroad empire in the back of their mind. There was a time we referred to the small layout as a chainsaw layout. You build it while learning the hobby. When you are ready for that larger layout, you salvage all the items, track, etc. for the next build, then take a chainsaw to it. Or give that small layout with all its mistakes to a nephew to learn on. On the next rendition of your layout it will be easier and better because of what you learned from the first layout. Some of the most detailed, eye catching layouts today are small layouts. Some of us older modelers are downsizing because that large layout is just too much to maintain. So we are building something smaller. Some of us will change scales during the years as we model.
I know a lot of beginners buy what they like and buy a lot of trains. We all do it in the beginning. That can be an expensive. I recommend you keep some sort of inventory of what you have when attending model train shows. It can be a print out or a device that holds your inventory. You are going to see something at the show you think will fit right in with your layout, you will buy it, then when you get home you discover you already have four of the same car, same road number. Later on comes thinning process. Selling off all those "must haves" you thought you just had to have. Instead, go talk to other modelers. Go to model train shows. Visit clubs. Pick their brains and experience. Ask about the things they did wrong. They will tell you. Buy magazines about railroads you are interested in or operated in your area. Do your homework. Then to be budget minded, choose an era to model. The most popular era is transition era, Steam to Diesel, that allows one to have both operating on their layout. Chose a date range. For example, 1960 -1970 or 2020 to now. You can narrow it or expand it. Then when you are buying trains, keep your purchases in that build range. Resist the urge to buy anything outside your chosen date range. You will save lots of money.
One of the things that can sabotage a large layout is a house move. In my experience, each move caused by a career move offered less space than the previous layout would fit in. Where we live now basements are rare due to the water table. Build your layout to be portable/moveable. Use lag bolts and wing nuts to hold the sections together. Build it so it can come apart in sections to fit through doors and stairwells. You might end up in a larger space to expand your layout or smaller space that the layout is just 10 inches too long to fit in.
Before cutting any wood, one of the most critical things in model railroading is a plan. It doesn't matter if you hand draw it or create it on the computer. Make a plan. When making that plan, share it with others in the hobby for suggestions on how to make it better. Put it away for two weeks while you mull it over. You are going to think of changes to make it better. Then put it away again. Once you and your fellow modelers can't come up with improvements to the plan, then start cutting wood. Stick to the plan! You will save some money.
Great video; thanks so much!!
Just found your channel through this video, might have to go through your series now, a lot of helpful tips and a great looking layout.
Also, love the Jeff Burton hat, or is it Ryan Newman?
Thanks.
Jeff Burton. I got the hat free inside a Summit Racing order haha.
Two lower cost options:
For sound when you want it on DC locomotives, Kato Soundbox with sound cards. Not cheap, but much less complicated or costly compared to DCC setup and locomotives.
Build your own DCC system for your DCC locomotives. About to try that using the DCC-EX codes…about 10% the cost of commercial systems and looks like fun to build.
TT modeler here , will you do a vid on superelevation ?
I did. Check out Layout Update 8.
Hey, brother. I'd like to suggest adjusting the verbiage of your "grizzly grates".
They are NOT grates. They ARE an embossed version of a grate. Thanks, cheers!
Great video! You listed the air compressor for painting and I have heard that they’re a pain to clean is that true? Also how about model railroad clubs? I joined one and definitely a good place to run your trains while you’re building your own layout. Thanks
Air brushes are harder to clean than paint brushes that's for sure, but its not too bad. Dump remaining paint, run water through it until 95% clean. Run IPA or Acetone through, including a back purge until no more color pigment is coming out. The trick is to not let the air brush sit and let the paint cure. There are times when a full disassembly is required to thoroughly clean, but its not too bad either.
Clubs are a wonderful place run trains. Often huge layouts and good community. I can't comment on it much as I am not part of a club. I couldn't say if all clubs are equal in what to expect either.
I’ve belong to a couple of clubs over the years. Some are more quirky than others.
I belong to one now which I think it’s pretty good. Thank fir the info on the air brush.
Hey! Love your layout and content man! Just purchased a collection of BCOL and CP locomotives/cars the new Atlas RS-2 and RS-3 locomotives are beautiful and an easy conversion to DCC.
Your layout is actually my inspiration
Thanks!
kato does make a small adapter track that allows easy flex track to add on. Im building a new layout and plan on using both.
Great video!!! Not that I need another hobby, but I am looking at getting back into HO-scale. I can't think of a single hobby that hasn't been impacted and benefitted from 3D printing. My main geekage is scale RC semi trucks and equipment, as well as 1/10 scale crawlers. Being able to design and print my own parts has really transformed the hobby for me, and kept it interesting. I also use 3D printing in off-roading (SXS) and ham radio; I do not use any 3D printing for my Lego hobby, I am a bit of a purist. With that, you do have to be careful with 3D printing, some of the print materials are very toxic. PLA and PETG are fairly safe, but reasonable ventilation is still recommended. Any other filaments like ABS, ASA, and other exotic blends should have dedicated exhaust systems used when printing; carbon filters in enclosed printers just mask the smell, but do little to block to toxic chemicals. It is hard to capture the necessary detail in FDM printing for N-scale, and fine detail (along with speed) is where resin printing shines. However, resin printing is extremely toxic, and requires the most safety measures.
I believe resin is the way to go for N scale to get the decent details. But you are right, there are some draw backs that need to be accounted for. At least in the manufacturing and processing department. Once cured, they are safe to handle. Thanks for watching
great video... I am wanting to try my hand at weathering a dummy unit I have. I don't have an air brush, but I do have powders do you have any advice on how to make it look like the locomotive has been used hard...
heavy use with just weathering powders might be tough. They are great for highlighting edges and what not. I haven't done any weathering on locomotives or rolling stock though.
Great tips here!
good stuff
I'm just about to get back into building model railways.. yes. Plural. I've bought almost (more than) I need. First goal is updating, track repair, rewiring a 4 foot by 6 ft N scale that is two separate levels and making it train accessible to both levels. It's fairly old and built with 2 * 4, 1 x 4, and half inch ply ( Maybe the original Builder was planning on standing on it?) Then a 3 ft by 10 ft N scale repairing track, wiring Etc far enough along so that if and when I go to hospice I will at least have a running train Empire to play with as well as still have some scenery Etc to work on. ( I've already got the okay from hospice. Turns out doctors are not always right, I was supposed to be in hospice two and a half years ago. It's not that I'm fighting the good fight it's that I'm a procrastinator! I will get around to dying I'm just a little busy right now) all this to say that even with my experience this was an exceptionally good video regardless of experience and if someone who was to get into the hobby with no prior knowledge and wanted to watch only one video, this is the one I would recommend. Even in my case just getting back into the hobby it was an excellent Refresher and even thinking that " I have all the things!" I don't have all the things LOL. I plan on selling the 4X 6 but it's also going to get me back into the... rhythm? Of building a model Railway once those two are done call Mom then I plan on starting on my" dream layout ". So very glad that I watched this video and thank you so much for putting the video together. You have managed to show what's needed along with explanations as to why each individual tool is needed. Once again thank you very much for the video. This might be one of those cases where " I've forgotten more than you'll ever know! " 😂 And yes there's a lot I have forgotten so thank you for this!
Man this some awesome info! I'm new to the hobby and was just gifted a bunch of N scale stuff. One question I'd like some clarification on, you mentioned soldering your track together. Do you also use the rail joiner clips or just solder? Thanks for the vid!
I use rail joiners as well. They are perfect for keeping the track aligned.
About crawling under the layout to do electrical work...build your layout sectionally, like modules. Then with removing (a) small section(s) of track, and undoing a couple of wing nuts, the section can be pulled out, stood on end, and worked on all day long. All the electrical work should be done and working perfectly before any scenery is installed. Do it this way and you'll never do it any other way again.
Great Video/Great Channel!!! At my RR Club here in Minot ND we show UA-cam channels showing layout work, wiring/scene work and locomotive/ rolling stock from other great YT Channels and it really is a hit for visitors. Would you mind if we put some of yours in the rotation to display at the club. We’ve had an uncomfortable number of visitors write down these pages or immediately looked the channel up on their phones
If you want to play the videos at your club, that'd be great.
Hi Nscaler454 , that was a very helpful video. You could have went a little more in-depth with some tips but we would still be watching L O L. I always enjoy watching your videos. They are helpful and intreating. Thanks for sharing. Have a good week. 😎😎 👍
1:20; "ZEE" and here I thought you were Canadian!
Geoff
Oh, great video by the way.
What model air compressor do you recomend ?
No specific one. I would find a cheap one like I have in the video. Being able to control your pressure is a must and having a water separator is a good feature to have. I would recommend ones that come with an airbrush, even if the airbrush is on low quality side.
where do i find that flex track curve tool
Just curious, is 454 a reference to a big block Chevrolet cid?
Correct. 1971 Chevelle SS454. My other channel is @ss454ls6
@nscaler454 sweet.
You have a fantastic refinery backdrop on your layout. Did you make that yourself or is it available from a vendor?
Great video!
I designed the backdrops myself and had them printed locally. Thanks
It’s almost impossible to find a piece of lumber at Home Depot or Lowe’s that isn’t warped.
True that. Use plywood and cut it into strips. It's better and cheaper.
how do you make grass.
i just started modling with n scale but i am not sure how to make grass but i can make trees with a 3d printer
I've made some videos showing static grass and other scenery, check em out.
@ cool thank you
"Cost effective" Yea!! There's NOTHING - And I mean NOTHING more that will kill the interest and ambition of any hobby - including the model railroad hobby than to buy expensive and overly expensive items for the hobby.
But with that said, a brand new locomotive with sound could be an exception.
But when it comes to items like flex track vs. Kato Unitrack, I'd definitely go flex. It's ALOT less costly and as mentioned; looks ALOT more realistic. Nothing wrong with Kato but I find it either more expensive and you're limited to the curves.
Awesome video too, BTW!!
Costs of this hobby are painful. Even if you manage to build a layout for a respectable cost, if you want to run 3 locos and just 20 cars, you need to dish out another $1000+.
But isn't the planning stage the most fun?
I've yet to even decide what continent to set mine in. 😂
I tip I recommend is what locos and rolling stock do you have is it American if so make it american themed if it’s European stuff then set it in Europe the country stuff is for you to decide as I know barley anything about Europe railways and even if your railway only operates on the west don’t let that restrict you feel free to make it a little unrealistic and add spots from the eastern side if you want. Hopefully this helps you
#10 - using all one brand isn't always possible. For example, not all brands have curved turnouts, or slip switches.
Argh ! I am sorry for you but UA-cam has automatically translated your title and all your chapters in French, but how they did is making reference to some "page layout" on a document and not about a "train layout" ! If you want to avoid your videos to be translated in some crapy way to other languages, you can find how to change change your settings in the video "UA-cam please STOP Auto Translating Video Titles" by Brodie Robertson. I did not find yet how to change on the viewer's side. Cheers. :)
Buy What you Can.
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My Wife and I Are Ho/N and We Love it my Ho Is 2 4x8’s in A L Shape my Wife Has a Single 4x8 Then My Wife’s N Scale is A Monster L.My N Scale is 11x8. and We Go Dc.
What Confuses Me Is This You’ll Have Someone Use Kato/ Atlas Or Bachmann/ Atlas But they don’t use One Brand Only.Really Come On Guys!
Too too little.....
"S" is the ideal size .
Start with a degree in electrical engineering!
The continued price increases on model railroading has made this a fools hobby.
Your never a fool if you invest in your passion.🇺🇸
Shapeways is gone. Sigh.
They're coming back. Shapeways Marketplace as we knew it is gone. Google it.
Shapeways is back. Google it. Shapeways Marketplace as we knew it is gone for good. Be patient and we'll have Marketplace back on line eventually.
Great video I’d like to add. Find that neighbor that’s a carpenter. They have all tools. 😂
Thank you.I have learned so much from you and everyone else.
I turned sixty two this year🤠👋🚂🗯
Hey Larry, I'm 77 and just started 2 years ago. Knock on wood I have many more years to finish my layout, but every time I "think" I'm done I go and expand it. 😊
@cbirailroad I just started a year ago and i'm having fun🚂