Disgaea 7 Best Way To Farm Juice Bar Stats Quick and Easy 10 Million Stat Gain per Character
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Hey, Primal, I love you and all, but a little bit of critique: whenever you mention "needing" an Evility, or mention an Evility being useful for something, you need to *tell people* where you get the Evility from. A lot of people, including myself, had to spend over an hour looking for who or what the main source of these Evilities are, because no one's composed a database yet and you never just tell people.
For the record, btw, the Evilities he mentions in this video their locations:
Image Change: Evility Squad or Hospital Gacha, in the "Low" tier.
Secret Recon: Ninja Tier 6.
Powerful Souls: Suisen.
Magic Bias: Hospital Gacha, in one of the higher tiers.
Vanguard: Male Warrior Tier 2
Of these, though, the only one you really *need* is Secret Recon. The others just speed things up.
Oh, and I noticed a mistake in your thread/Google Docs file: It's not Seraphina who has the Evility to boost HP by 30%. It's Artina.
People, PLEASE thumb this comment up so others see it!
EDIT: Oh yeah, one other Evility you can use to speed things up even more, is Caster, from the (girl) Witch Tier 2. It works like Vanguard, only for SP.
Google search: “cecilbowen disgaea 7 evilities” for a complete search/filter list.
I agree with your main point, though. He rushes out 10 minute guides, drags out his words, and still won’t cover the specifics… Primal, please at least keep it thorough and comprehensive.
what do you mean by Ninja Tier 4?
@@mail12345 I mean that the character who wants it needs to have gotten their Ninja subclass mastery up to 3 stars filled in. But I was incorrect about it being the Tier 4 evility. Secret Recon requires the character's Ninja subclass mastery to have 5 stars filled in (it's the *Tier 6* evility, IOW)
Thanks so much for this! You could have just searched all the evilities for yourself and be done with it, but you speny the extra time to share your research in the comments. 🥹Yeah, that has been what primal lacks in his guide videos. He expects people to already know where certain stuff is from.
"farm 20 star carnage baal" feels wrong to say
its actually pretty easy with 3 Swing about properties on a good character
"when you can farm 20 * carnage baal"
Pretty sure the game would basically be over if i could do that.
thank you, you always make it look so easy
hey dude love the videos! Is there a Ultimate unit like there was in part 5 like the Sage? One that can hit everything on the map.
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Its actually 1/1000 stat gain. I tested this with the final martial stage at enemy strengh 2 and i godt about 800 stat out of it
That's a great trick, thanks!
@Primalliquid - So are there no Evilities that boost the Juice Bar stats once you've earned them? Are we just SOL on getting more out of the Juice Bar?
this is all nice and well but as someone who is starting the game, i dont even know where to start. 😂
I've played D1 and D3, I'm lost too.
For me have no sense to farm 20 star carnage baal to grind stats… as more or less once you beat that you basically done everything in the game 😅
I also notice that you will always got wipe out if you throw an enemy on your base panel that you havent recruited yet. Thats a great way to boost rp for me.
I've been doing the postgame grind, and now I see why it's recommended to swap those evilities around rather than toss an uncapturable enemy into your base panel. It does appear to be faster! You change a couple of evilities, change them back, heal... and you can also repeat that process to keep building up RP before pulling your gacha.
Whereas tossing an uncapturable enemy into your base panel... you have to wait for the fight to load, pull out your tosser, throw the enemy, and then sit through a fairly long animation to get your base panel rekt. Now you finish the fight and wait for your base to load... and now you can go heal up and pull your gacha. If you have "auto-heal at base" turned on at the Cheat Shop, you can instead go right back into that battle to keep building up RP, but you'll still have to return to base each time to get that healing. And then you have to sit through that base battle animation each time, as well as those loading screens.
The "failed capture" method is simpler, but it is slower. On the plus side, I found it easy to build Ao up to four stars in each class while I was at it by making her the one who tossed Penne into my base panel and then cleaned up afterwards. I used the Carnage version of 1-1 at 4*, and Ao went from 0 to 4 stars on most classes every two kills.
I don't like switching around evilities constantly, but that method does appear to be faster. But the slower, simpler method of abusing an uncapturable enemy does allow for some multitasking if you're still building yourself up for those high-end challenges.
Seems so much to much to learn and grind.. but still tempted to get
It would be great if there were a list of where to get the Evilities for the RP farm. Like which character and at which level.
Vanguard is from Warrior,
Secret Recon is from Ninja (male),
Magic Bias is from Hospital Gacha (S. Overlord),
Image Change is from Evility Squad,
Powerful Souls is from Suisen.
Just found another way to get Image change. There's a black skull in the Carnage version of Ewwdo that gives a quest with it as a reward.@@ahmadsudin5038
@@ahmadsudin5038 Image Change can also be obtained from one of the early-game Gacha tiers. That's how I found it. Should also mention Secret Recon needs Ninja *Tier 4,* and Vanguard needs Warrior *Tier 2.*
These videos are interesting.. but kinda pointless for people who don't have maxed out characters with absurd stat ranges already... I feel like I might've missed how to -get- to that point somewhere along the line?
Getting the listed evilities isn't too hard, and you can use this strategy to get initial stats, which makes the process even faster.
Just start with Pirilika on HP/SP, and just go in and out of the evility/hospital menu a bunch of times, then give her all the HP/SP from the Juice Bar. Now the next time it's faster, because she has more HP/SP. Keep repeating until you have the stats you want.
I mean, there are multiple Disgaea Videos on the channel already aside from this one.
The bad description for the Evility squad has been patched hopefully :-) ( now it show the number of battles you need etc )
yea i just heard they fixed that in one of the updates
Evility Scholars has been showing the Evility and Battle Numbers for me since it released. So I'm guessing it was a mistranslation with just the Early Release Versions of the game?
ahh guessing that was fixed in one of the updates then
Hey guys so to reach max stats the steps are Class Mastery Reincarnate to 10m then Juice bar to 20m evilties to 40m then equipment to 99m?
My game is not working good i tried the Reincarnation but every time i go to do it the points added go back to normal i made hit 100 i reincarnated again and my hit was back to 80 ?
You have to redistribute the stat points every time you reincarnate. Each reincarnation you get more stat points to distribute though. Hope that answers your question.
So glad you did not mention which classes have the required evilities that you need to do the to farm. A pain in the ass having to look every class and there’s not even a list so your farm method is useless unless you know exactly where to get every evility.
Did you find them? Because that drives me up the wall and there's not really a way to Google it or a spreadsheet or anything that I can find
what was the point of the first method? If you can farm 20* carnage baal, at that point, you don't even need 10 million stats :P
even at that point its only worth farming for HP/SP stats so i guess its good if you wanna cap out 128 characters?
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Do we really need all characters to have their classes all maxed out? I barely can do one character lol
This ramp up exponentially as you get going. ie. getting your first char to that point will be significantly more of a grind than it will be on your second, third and so on. Besides Disgaea has always been a bit of a grindy game haha. But that's really only necessary if you want to do Baal etc, if you're just going to complete the main story and end it there, you don't need to do any of this.
@@rowsonman3032yeah its very grindy. But with the help of the juice bar I manage to get at least 11 characters have max stats! It felt easier than the old games
I should buy the dlc so that i can get plenair
i think im getting less exited to play, seems like half the game is about the gotcha wheel ?
Maybe you should actually play the game and see how wrong you are.
@@RanEncounter i cant “actually play the game” yet but i hope you are right. ps5 still goes to the demo. i guess since release says 06-10
On the US side of things i managed to buy and download the digital version about 2 days ago so PSN store locales definitely being annoying thats for sure.
Its likely only due to how inefficient the others are in comparison. Since Evil Gacha just requires healing units in large quanities, which in the demo relied on throwing a un-captur`able unit into your base and with the full game you get evilities to set hp and/or sp to 1 so you can `keel` your units without having to enter combat to build up the RP instead.
Since it appears properties took over on growth based innocents since i cant see anything about Staticians, Managers and what not. Which is fine in some cases since it ends up being rather difficult to farm them and they made item world easier to do by making runs be 10/20/30 floors instead of up to 100 and you can infinitely `reset` a weapon to get new properties and change the weapon grade long as you have the item points, which i believe is gonna be the more annoying one, but since you can auto sell to item points, taking advantage of a difficult stage that dumps lots of rare equipment can be a good source. Martialahara Final stage at lvl 15~20 is rather good for `early` super grinding and most items there seem to drop stuff that dump around 1k~2k item points per piece.
I certainly remember in Disgaea 6 where you used Infernal corrosion and a setup to `auto battle` spam farm the juice bar, but due to the HL cost, it was a massive pain to farm. Disgaea 7 actually doing it away was a good move by the devs.
Sadly they kind of made the innocent farm, subduing innoncents `manually` and max stat `farming` method rather obsolete, even if the auto battle this time that uses a consume`able resource you farm by doing stages normally will let you straight up AUTO SKIP stages immediately then it having to play out each run back to back. Evil Gacha just covers too much with Money, Rare gear to use or to item world grind and juice bar farm, but since that requires carnage mode progress, yeah its gonna require work todo so.
This is the only time you need it and it takes at most an hour as stated in the video, I'm 20 hours in and doing it(its my 4th disgaea game so it'll likely be more time for you) so less than 5% the game is this
Kind of a dated response to poke at so i cant even recall what your talking about and honestly its more of a case it gets boring to exploit the gacha hundreds, if not thousands of time to max all Juice bar bonuses, HP and SP included so you can maximize it to where you get a Pirilika rocking billions or so of hp so you get so many pulls you can do something like 3,000 (yes thats 30, 100 pulls) pulls a pop of each Pirilika heal and get so much hel back alongside innocents and evilities, you basically got over half the setup work done to just proceed to have almost any unit get max juice bar stats to farm job proficiencies on martialhara 5 CARNAGE on lvl 1~3 depending on how far the evility setup you are.
Too bad that part gets boring cause you have to `many` dozens of jobs to get those 24 or so evility slots so you can arm them enough to maximize growth rates to get them in the 20mil~30mil club, and similar for HP so you have a nice arsenal of units to some-what survive Baal nukes so you can then go thru the tedious process of farming him to then finally do item god farming since any item god farming before Baal seals is just lousy efficiency fiascos.
So ultimately it gets dumb down to:
-Beat the game.
-Abuse Martial-hara to max job proficiencies on Pirilika.
-Abuse Prilika`s ungodly high hp/sp to farm evil gacha.
-Abuse that stockpiled innocents & juice bar stats to maximize units for faster grinding, since 8 stacks of 50k base stats on a weapon goes alot farther then you think on top of the 10 mil base stats.
-Grind out the rest of your platoon and eventually get around to slapping Carnage stage 15 so each of them get a seal of power to go alongside the 2nd and 3rd evility slot from dark assembly and maxing jobs out.
-Once you have an army to roid the heck out of a few map deleters, a maiko squad to re-fresh them and a Ao just to add onto the extra dmg, you basically beat the game at that point since its just speed running item world for maximized stats.
Shame that i have other materials to work on, since i`m already hitting that burn out like i did on disgaea 6, but more on grinding each character then a concern of turning a switch into a baked potato for leaving it going over night for hours.
AKA why im glad Disgaea 7 is `better`, but gets tedious if i am not sticking with only playing just it and nothing else. @@xa447
this WHOLE game is dependent on the Gacha....
Thank god they didn't make it a MONEY Gacha like any mobile games.
How do you get powerful soul? Got everything but
I'm trying to find this as well, no joy yet
Just found it, it's one of Suisen's evilities
Why are your translations so bad? All the steam translations say the things you say it should. Console version is just borked?
review copy they fixed the translations 1 day before the game released
Farm HL? Gatcha! Farm stats? Carnage Gatcha!! For hours and hours and hours and hou...
Sheesh, I really don't see why some vocal (majority?/minority?) got all up in arms about the auto-battle system in D6.
At least in that game you could just 'set it up', get auto-battle started, go get a drink, eat dinner, whatever. Come back a bit later and you're stat maxxed, ready for reincarnation or whatever.
What do we need now? MANUALLY mash a gatcha menu for 50 hours straight. Sheesh.
Anyway, I've not gotten as far in completion for a Disgaea game in years up until D6 and I'm highly likely gonna end up not getting all that far into the post-game here either since even if this IS the most efficient method ... I don't see me dealing with the dozens of hours mashing menus like this for just 1 part of the grind.
I always get bored before getting even remotely close when I get to that point (on top of just, ya know ... time).
In your other Class EXP farming videos, you tell us to get to get the juice bar stats first, THEN farm class EXP.
Here, you say the opposite? Grinding class EXP is far more difficult without the bonus stats.
realisticly maxing out 1 character with a heal/buff method before juice bar will be more efficent
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lame
Pretty sure I'm done with the disgaea series at this point. It's like they are afraid you might have fun. Evilties that take 10,000 runs to max a single character. So we play more gotcha... don't grind or play the game with skills designed for the purpose of getting better just play a boring mini game...
What are you talking about? It’s always been like this.
Remember Disgaea 5? The Chara world slow mini game?
Disgaea has always been this, dude. Where have you been?
A billion reincarnations, chara world, Item world, this has always been the case. If anything, they've reduced the grind this go around compared to some of the bullshit 4 and 5 put us through.