Baseball Tragedies | Here's how TWO MLB Players Crashed their Planes
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Major League Baseball (New York Yankees) pitcher Cory Lidle's aircraft crashes into a building in the Upper East Side of Manhattan, New York City. Eleven years later, Major League Baseball (MLB) Pitcher Roy Halladay’s Icon A5 aircraft crashes in shallow water near New Port Ritchey, Florida, under near-perfect skies, after a short flight from a lakeside beach in Odessa. Find out what happened.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:30 Pre-flight Preparation (Cory Lidle)
1:45 Departure from Teterboro
2:15 Cory Lidle and his Aircraft
3:10 Over the Hudson River
3:55 Statue of Liberty
4:25 Over the East River
5:00 East River Corridor
5:55 Deadly Maneuver and Crash
6:43 Investigation
8:00 Pre-flight Preparation (Roy Halladay)
8:45 Departure from Island Ford Lake
9:06 Over the Gulf of Mexico
9:20 Dangerous Aerobatics
9:45 Near Crash
10:32 Witnesses
11:10 Crash
12:05 Investigation - Розваги
As a CFII flight instructor with thousands of hours flight time, I have seen so many of these types of pilots. They have lots of money, want to fly expensive, high performance airplanes, but don't have the experience or flight time needed to fly them safely. I came close to being fired more than once for refusing to sign off customers not qualified to fly the plane they wanted to rent. Sadly, I have seen other instructors sign off pilots who were no where close to being qualified because the customer gave them a few hundred bucks on the side. I always took my instructor rating very seriously and got dozens of people their private, commercial, instrument, and flight instructor ratings. All were ready and well trained, got their ratings, and I do not know of a single one having an aircraft accident. Flying is not a rich person's game, it is very serious and should always be taken that way. You can be serious about safety and still have fun. I treasure my flying memories.
It's good there are checks & balances such as you to reduce the number of accidents.
You are spot-on.
@ggeorge4144.
You are absolutely correct, I applaud you and your judgment which is excellent. People don’t take flying seriously especially those who are rich and wealthy thinking a small plane is a “toy” when they are not because there will always be serious consequences when they take unnecessary risks by flying out of control. And these pilots should think twice about the people on the ground that can perish because of their irrational and selfish behavior. Congratulations Sir, you seem to be a very intelligent, caring, and experienced pilot who has a high degree of knowledge. I am afraid of flying but I would fly with you with my eyes closed knowing I would be safe. Kudos to you 👍👍🙌🙌👏👏👏🙂
Always the "more money than skills" ones that ended up on UA-cam crash videos....
I treasure my memories in the air too. My father was an instrument-rated flight instructor and I used to go up with him. I got taught at a VERY early age how to handle a plane safely and it was a lot of fun for me as a kid to be his co-pilot, reading checklists and helping prep the plane for startup (at his instruction). One of the things he taught me right from the get go is "Respect the airplane, and it'll respect you." Plenty of rich folks make good, responsible (and a few amazingly talented) pilots, but these two yobbos weren't among them. I'm sorry you had to deal with employers that put dollars above the safety of their own planes, not to mention you!!
That Lidle crash was the most bizarre. An inexperienced pilot with a flight instructor on board, flying into areas he shouldn't have been.
Cory Lidle's plane crashed into the Belaire Apartments on October 11th 2006. A fire soon engulfed several apartments. In addition to the death of Cory and his flight instructor Tyler Stangler, 21 people were injured including 11 firefighters. The most serious injuries were to a woman named Ilana Benhuri, who's 30th floor apartment Lidle's plane crashed nose first into. She was in the hospital until November 10th 2006 being treated for severe burns.
Yes, and everyone is crying for Lidle.
Thank you for sharing this
@@paulkoza8652 more people knew who he was obviously but we all were wondering about the residents of the apartment. People care for all souls involved but you need to know names and faces first. Most people knew of Lidle but that doesn't make his loss more tragic than the others.
@@knowsmebyname I agree. Somewhere I saw a video clip of the people who lived in the building. They were all lucky to escape with their lives. I can't find it on UA-cam but it exists somewhere.
I wonder where the notice about remembering the deceased is; or did I miss it?
the embodiment of 'fuck around and find out'.
What I remember most about Cory Lidle's crash was, I admit, feeling a slight sense of relief when investigators determined the crash was not intentional. I lived in NYC (a Yankees fan), the crash was a plane going into a building, it was only 5 years after 9/11, and I was a senior in high school.
What was Lidle’s WAR? And how many career balks?⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️
The Lidle crash must have been terrifying for the two passengers. Turning as hard as you can and seeing that building looming up in front of you with no escape.
Simply understanding your surroundings and climbing a little bit before doing the turn wouldve been enough.
@@DavidMoviez making the turn to the right, into the crosswind, would have worked as well.
They had the capability to fly higher than any of the buildings, so why not?
There was Lidle they could do at that point.
@@DavidMoviezIf that was me I would have gone in totally the opposite direction, as far away from the buildings as possible.
That is the only time you will see the Brooklyn Bridge with no cars on it.
That's because I sold it to Joe Biden. 😅
Another NY Yankee baseball player that also died in a plane crash was Thurman Munson on August 2, 1979. He was practicing landings and takeoffs. He also had limited experience overall and was operating a newer, larger plane.
I remember it well. I was just shy of 12 years old when it happened. I hope TFC covers his accident one of these days.
I was a die hard Phillies fan. I watched both Cory Lidle and Roy Halladay pitch for the Phillies. Sat down left field line when he pitched a 2005 game home vs the Dodgers. On a side note, Cory Lidle was shown studying weather maps towards attaining his pilot’s license in a 2005 Phillies yearbook video documentary. Also saw Doc throw 8 shutout innings against the Mets at Citi Field in 2010. Both were shocking and terribly sad days.
Haliday was performing dangerous maneuvers. I wonder if he bought that little plane to kill himself in?
The thing that stands out to me personally is the shockingly few hours on the aircraft types.
Every pilot, learning a new type, starts with zero hours on that type. The only way to increase that is to fly the plane, initially with an instructor but eventually on his own. Why do you find that shocking?
@@pac1261 I get it and I am aware of that good sir. I guess I'm more meaning that with so few hours maybe being responsible and not flying on a variety of drugs or in such a tight area.
Yes. Absolutely.
Even pro athletes can have the desire to win the coveted Darwin Award.
It’s actually very funny
I was at Cory Lidle's final game: a Detroit fan booing him loudly as he entered the game and then cheering myself hoarse as he gave up three runs in one inning to seal the deal on my Tigers' 2006 ALDS victory. I definitely felt a bit bad in retrospect when I learned he was dead only 72 hours later.
I'm glad the 2nd one didn't take anybody with him.
Each accident can be summed up in a single word.
- Carelessness
- Foolishness
"If you can't be a good example, at least be a warning."
Please return’ In memory of ‘ it’s unique to you!
Didn't we see these before on this channel? I swear we did.
yes they've been uploaded before.
Yep, yet another re-upload combination of prior vids. Will get more views and revenue share I suppose.
I would like to see a video of Yankee Catcher Thurman Munson
There is one on this channel
@@CDurham1 he means a video of thurman munson's corpse
I remember the first accident on 72nd Street well; I was practically rund the corner on 65th - it was horribly reminiscent of 9/11 at first when we did not know what had actually happened. Looking back I remember being amazed that that small plane crash caused so much dense black smoke and fire...!
I can't believe I don't remember this. I was living on LI at the time but I grew up on 79th Street and was a Yankees fan.
@@shaund9759 Yeah, that is strange...🤔 I've had similar experiences - completely forgetting events even though others even showed me photographs of me being there!🙃
Didn’t John Lennon crash his plane too? He lived on 72nd Street.
Halladay had a reputation for being more than a little more than a risk taker. That combination of drugs, wow. By the way, Zolpiden is Ambien, and one of the others, is a serious antidepressant. And then amphetamine? This guy should have never gotten into this plane. Also, alot of these meds have long half lifes, so he was just adding more fuel to his pharmaceutical fire.
You did a super job on this, as per your usual. Thursday, my cat knows is FLT day, she watches and makes some keen observations.
Anybody else think Halladay might have had a d*ath wish?
I don't know, but damn, that was some high level crazy, especially with so little time in that plane.
It's certainly possible, whenever one of these celebrities die in circumstances where a death wish is a possibility, my paycheck to paycheck mind says "what does it take to make you happy to be alive" but that isn't fair either I guess. I sure feel bad for his family.
@@kevinfoley8105yes. You're right. The family probably has a lot more insight into his behavior, which probably makes it worse. I am very sorry for them.
I don't think people like that realize they are suicidal, but yes I agree with you.
Halladay was definitely a suicide. Given the super-dangerous mix of drugs he was on, he was on a track to kill himself one way or another and his decided method was in keeping with his tremendous narcissism and need to present high-impact moments to others. This one was literally "high impact", so his suicide was a 100 percent success.
The amphetamine could be Adderall. The Ambien brought him down, and the Adderall boosted him back up too high, and them more Ambien, then...........rinse repeat.
It's a roller coaster....much like his flight maneuvers.
The CFI was crazy for not knowing their altitude was VERY insufficient for the city skyscraper terrain.
Really cool views over the river / cityscape, I get that.
But wham into a building w/o altitude !
I was in a GA emergency situation w/ my student pilot friend that COULD have turned deadly.
Praise God, he showed far better judgement that Cory Lidles CFI, or I'd be dead right now.
How either of the two pilots ever got their PPL is somewhat a mystery to me.
Wow! So sad. Just finished watching the video.
The A5 is such a sweet ride.
X le vittime dei due incidenti Riposate in Pace 🙏✝️🙏 la musica alla fine del video è bellissima specialmente i violini ❤
As a pilot myself, with no agenda, I have to say I think these kinds of crashes can only be explained by impaired judgment, i.e., drugs or alcohol. Small planes are very predictable unless there are mechanical problems. Every pilot learns that winds and weather are highly unpredictable, so you always need to have an altitude cushion when flying over mountains or skyscrapers. The wind can grab and bounce you around as if you were a toy. These pilots would have been fine with 1,500 extra feet of altitude. Very tragic lapses of judgment.
Halladay's was drugs. Lidle's was str8 inexperience.
Re the Lidle case: I am not familiar with NYC airspace, but with 3 major airports close by, I would bet that it was not legal to operate VFR at a higher altitude.
@@pac1261 If not 1,500 ft. maybe 1,000 ft? Perhaps it wouldn't be legal, but it would save their lives and the bill for huge property damage of the condos that burned.
Icon A5 is one of the most amazing and secure art works in the aviation industry.
there are some people who should not fly aircraft- here are two!
I think the second guy was committing suicide and his flights just previous were his “warm up” attempts. 😢
I have the same thought. Suicide and took others with him. It's happened before.
Lidle warned up before starts⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️
How tragic 😥
Among the substances found in the second pilot's system are an anti-depressant and a sleep aid. It's possible he was having a manic episode and was improperly diagnosed or medicated. If he was depressed, a doctor might prescribe him an anti-depressant, which in Bipolar people can trigger a manic episode. If he was having a manic episode, he would have trouble sleeping, which he would have been prescribed the sleep aid for. Now, why he still had it in his system is probably an indicator that he was trying to get high, but I don't know how long Zolpidem stays in your system.
Either way, among the symptoms of mania is risky behavior. That sure looked like risky behavior to me.
But this is just speculation. I just recognized those drugs because I used to take them myself before I was properly diagnosed.
cocaine remains in your hair for 10 years; whether or NOT u have nose cilia.
Shouldn't any diagnosis of the sort prevent him from being licensed? Medications?
@@getmeouttatennessee4473 I've heard they can, and he might have hid those diagnoses from his bosses. I've heard of other pilots hiding their mental status out of fear of being fired, but I'm no expert.
I remember both of these.
In other words, he was high as kite.. until he wasn't.
why are you reuploading the same videos over and over?
Good question.
The Halliday crash reminded me of Colin McRae helicopter crash. He was also thrill seeking and flying too low with hardly any flight time, and I don’t think he even had a valid pilot’s license.
These guys have very high self confidence from being an all time great rally driver or pitcher that seemed to lead to overconfidence in their flying skills.
Theres another rally driver that died in 2001 by flying his helicopter into IMC named Bertie Fisher, the front seats or the helicopter bottom were fiberglass and came loose in his crashing helicopter. If the seats hadn’t have broken loose he and the other front passenger might have survived.
hey TheFlightChannel what flight simulator do you use for these plane crashes and other stuff
MSFS2020
This looks like an old video. TFC have you stopped making new videos?
Well neither were rocket scientist types,and Roy Halladay had a serious pain killer addiction issue.Rich guys with toys should not be in the air
Halladay was high as a kite and thought he was Maverick. He wasn't...
Only reason i can see for what Liddle did was some last minute sightseeing..
There was just... zero excuse for either of these crashes. The Lidle crash was particularly tragic; he smashed the plane into a high rise apartment complex and terribly injured a number of people, including firefighters. Where on Earth was his flight instructor when he was zooming toward controlled airspace in the middle of the East River? He should have been on the horn with Kennedy ATC asking permission to execute a balloon turn or climb into controlled airspace before they reached the Brooklyn Bridge!
There's a sense that both of these were young dudes that thought they were invincible (especially Halladay and his drug cocktail). But Mother Nature and the laws of physics always bat last, and their batting average is 1.000. Being a pilot myself I understand the urge to stretch your wings and test the envelope of your aircraft, or go and see some of the sights in places like the East River. But airplanes, particularly small ones, are absolutely unforgiving if you push them past their safe envelopes of operation. A little light sport job like the A5 is *NOT* a "jet fighter." It's a low altitude, low-speed plane that lets you puddle-jump and go backpacking somewhere, not do vertical climb-outs.
The really sad irony? The Icon A5 has a bailout parachute system in case you get in over your head. IIRC, Halladay's plane had the chute, but he never even tried to deploy it.
The pilot didn't have good spatial awareness, judgement, to try to complete a turn like that. All he had to do was straighten it out, and climb. It could've been easy to prevent, to not hit a skyscraper.
Agree, it was preventable furthermore, what if he overflew a restricted area, it would be better to deal with the FAA than the mortician.
A5 is a jet ski not a fighter jet. And you have be aware that jet skis are not intended to fly, so you have to pay attention!
2nd one, the NTSB could have had stated "Darwin" and that would have sufficed.
The building was by New York Presbyterian hospital
Thought you were gonna perhaps discuss the Thurman Munson accident since we were discussing Yankee players who were also pilots.
And Lou Gehrig…
Too much $$$
Too much over confidence
Not enough caution
Not enough experience
= DISASTER
I saw Daryl Kile’s last game: Cards-Brewers @ Miller Park⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️
Would love to know ages when we're talking about these guys, also, what happened to the apartment building.
The acknowledgement of lives lost has been sporadic of late. Just an observation.
Pls do the Chari Dadri mid air collision I am a big fan
Theflightchannel c mon pleas make a video of what happen to philippine airlines
Loss of life, no matter what the circumstances is tragic. I know about these two incidences and the lesson here is inexperience, drugs, and willing to take risks. Any one, or combination, will result in death. Enough said.
Even Hitler’s death?😂
@@cadaverdog1424 Funny.
Please do a vid on KAM air Flight 904
I think Halladay decided to crash deliberately. The drugs were to give him courage and numb him out, and the erratic flying was warm-up attempts. Just my opinion based on the sequence of events.
I'm sorry about Lidle and the instructor. It seems as though they should have been able to find a way out of that.
I think Halladay blacked out. He was known to use drugs and have erratic behavior when not pitching. The drugs and flying were part of his adrenaline rush. I think the multiple dolphin movements were him getting and adrenaline rush from the drugs and hypoxia and he simply blacked out on the last upward movement.
That's what I was wondering, if it were a suicide.
how does he get the traffic to match the time era?
For Example in the video about the Hughes Airwest cash and PSA 182
Do you think you could do an episode of Yakee catcher Thurman Munson's plane crash? I believe it happened in the very early 80s.
I hated Munson’s mustache ……….
@@cadaverdog1424 well, it was the end of the 70s. Porn staches were the thing!
wow
just imagine what the citizens of NYC were thinking when they see another plane hit a building.
Lived there that day and whatever you might think is probably close to correct.
aircraft have hit buildings in NYC many times, though.
It happens a lot. I don't think most citizens of NYC cared. Hell...I was at work in lower Manhattan on September 11, 2001. That was a big incident because of the prominence of the buildings that were struck and the carnage afterwards but as @rstidman has pointed out...airplanes have hit buildings in NYC many times.
repeated... meanwhile.. AU2553 remains undone
Or JAL123
I don't remember this. I wonder if this was thought to be another terrorist attack at the beginning?
At least he hadn't been drinking.
You made me laugh so much :)
This video should be entitled Darwin Awards: Low-Intelligence Rich People Play With Airplanes
perfect
No sympathy for the second pilot. As for the first I wonder why private pilots are allowed to fly so low over a city.
Two examples of aircraft owners with more money than skill or experience. There was another example of a baseball player years ago in a Citation, can't remember his name, also in the New York area that killed both him and his instructor, likely because the instructor waited too long to take over...
Was that Thurman Munson, catcher for the Yankees after Yogi retired?
Yes
Hi
Please do JAL flight 123 I’ve asked for a while 4 years ago
Wow 4 yrs of waiting lol. Just give up
There is a video of that crash on this channel.
Wasn’t Thurman Munson his co-pilot? And how many souls were killed in this crash? I heard 125 but that sounds excessive🛩️🛩️🛩️🛩️🛩️
Sad
What happened to the people in the New York apartment building?!
I cant believe the 2nd pilot was reckless
Roy Halladay was not a pilot. He was flying a plane...but he was not a pilot.
Remember, there is a difference between a musician and one who plays the piano. There is a difference between a pilot and one who flies a plane.
Haven't you done this one before?
Both double-digit experience, that is nothing.
What about Thurman Munson?
Great video. So let's see (first incident): A wealthy baseball player who is a rookie pilot, along with his idiot flight instructor, neither of whom understand the flight envelope of the Cirrhus, are supposed to fly WEST from Teterboro but instead decide to sightsee around New York City. They are surrounded by super-tall buildings, have no ATC clearance and then crash the airplane. On top of that, New York City is a zoo: you have La Guardia Airport often seeing planes landing every minute (when I worked at La Guardia Hospital in Queens, I once saw planes passing my window every 30 seconds); you have Kennedy, with lots of international and cross country flights, and a busy cargo schedule; and you have Newark International. An air traffic controller has his hands full trying to keep everything straight at La Guardia; somebody at Kennedy is doing same. What do these controllers think of a sight-seeing pilot deciding to take a joyride up the East River? Do you think they will tell him "We're bored; thanks for flying by," or do you think they want to tell him "Get your dumb ass out of my airspace before you kill yourself or 150 other people on a 737 trying to land?" What the pilot and his instructor should have done is take off from Teterboro, head WEST and go straight to their intended intermediate stop, and stay away from high traffic corridors. second incident (Florida): A pilot taking drugs proven to have psychoactive effects and incompatible with safely operating an aircraft, ship or motor vehicle decided he was a fighter pilot, crashed and killed himself. I can only be grateful he didn't kill anyone else.
I remember a previous report / video on this. What amazed me was that anyone could fly VFR in that particular East River corridor. I live in London and never been to the East Coast.
They SHOULD have known about the abrupt (though widened)180 needed at the end if no clearance was given to go further. I'm not clear if they requested ATC clearance to continue further or if it would ever be allowed.
Two experienced pilots as passengers, surely one of them knew, but didn't think to warn him until too late.
Sorry for them all on board (whoever started that manouvre) and the lady who was severely burned in her apartment, as well as the countless (well countable) injuries mentioned by others here.
Has this East River zone changed, anyone? I think it was alluded to previously.
@@pomerau Fixed wing aircraft that aren't seaplanes going to/from the seaplane base have been prohibited from the East River exclusion. It was only ever useful for helicopters and seaplanes anyway, so nothing has really changed from a practical point of view.
As for why it wasn't set up this way to begin with, I guess nobody thought anyone would be stupid enough to fly a fixed wing aircraft in there at too high an airspeed to turn around. So they just used the same general rules for the East River and Hudson River exclusions, and figured that fixed wing traffic would stick to the Hudson exclusion where it actually made sense for them to be.
@@rbrosz Interesting. Thank you.
On a lovely day it must have been tempting to a guy like this though.
2006 only. Wow.
Hey bro when will you will make season 7 air disaster episode
Is this a repeat?
I thought it was going to be about Thurman Munson.
They lost lift in the turn!
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Curious if there were any rule changes over New York? Would it have been so bad to just let them fly straight through? Why couldnt you fly past the river? Why make planes turn in a tight area over the city? I am not a pilot so go easy if these seem like dumb questions.
Your questions aren't dumb. That airspace is extremely congested, with several major and other airports sharing it, and so the restrictions are very sensible. But airspace rules weren’t a part of the problem here, because a competent pilot researches them, plans for them, and flies by them except during an emergency. The pilot here wasn’t competent.
JFK Jr didn’t have the experience to fly in the conditions he eventually experienced. He also turned down the offer of an instructor to fly with him that night.
He was good-looking but dumb. Same as Amelia Earhart.
First one was avoidable, no reason altitude needed to be that low, the second one, well, he had it coming seeing the tox screen.
first one was a murder-suicide. lidle was a loser.
Could be, don't know his psych history.@@rstidman
They caught a crash
no homer today
These crashes are sad
Bro plane crashes aint funny
Bruhhhhhh how?
In the second airplane accident, and with so many medicines in his system, no wonder Roy Halladay’s judgment was impaired. Gosh, he should have not been flying at all. Perhaps he wanted to crash that plane deliberately as in suicide??? Who knows, nothing was said about that but it is a possibility.
And in the first accident, I remember it very well being that day my birthday when that small aircraft hit that building in Manhattan. Cory Lidle should have been more careful flying a plane in that narrow corridor……maybe he would be alive today. Very sad and tragic when these small planes are involved in accidents. They are very
light planes. I flew in one long time ago and boy, it was scary as to how light they are.
May Roy Halladay, Cory Lidle and the instructor Tyler Stangler Rest in Peace always 🙏🙏🙏💐
Kiddies... Don't fly like this at home.
The second one was not a tragedy.
You fly with an instructor and crash? Aircraft flying low near tower blocks in NY, surprised it is allowed.
The second crash ,was it suicide or just being out of your mind on drugs. Both very sad.
These are just the same videos of two old videos he already made and edited them together make this video lol
These guys were just having fun. Quit being so critical.
Stupid is as stupid does!
NY YANKEE captain, catcher Thurman Munson crashed his plane in Ohio and died in August, 1979. He was a NY Yankee for 10 years.
I wouldn't say stupid. These guys didn't have the aptitude to be pilots. Taking aviation for granted, and not seeing you don't have what it takes to pilot an aircraft, can get you killed. It's easy to get in over your head, when flying a plane, if you don't know what you're doing.
Munson was high on power when he killed himself.
Don't do drugs!
repeat
pilot fault, 1:58. , engine has 3 PERFECT blades...he had LITTLE landing experience. and his ILS..was bad aim.
Wow
Looks like a flight simulator trip😂
Come on, TFC. We love your work but this combining old vids into "new" ones is a drag for those of us who've watched every video.
2nd crash. I was going to say it sounds like he was drunk or high or both.
If he had pursued professional aviation like his father, he'd probably still be alive
Zolpidem is a sleeping pill. This guy was suicidal!
Well, note to self.....never fly with someone with less than 20 hours of experience........