🇪🇸 Nebulossa "Zorra" ANALYSIS & REACTION | Spain | Eurovision 2024
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- I react to the live performance of Nebulossa "Zorra", who will represent Spain in Eurovision 2024. I also go into an in depth analysis about the song, artist and how this could do for Spain in the contest.
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0:00 Intro
1:52 Reaction to Live Performance
5:09 Artist analysis
6:49 Song Analysis
12:25 How could this do?
14:26 Jury
16:50 Televote
18:02 Odds
18:33 Community Poll
19:10 Spain in the last 10 years
20:36 Shoutouts
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i really like that song i feel like a badass, confident spanish woman and i am a swiss guy
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Zorra Zorra Zorra🎉
I really like this song and the fact that us more mature women get a representation in Eurovision! And it may slay!
As a Peruvian, I can say that, at least in the televote, they'd get more than 5 points because lots of people from Latin America are loving this song. It is actually the first Spanish Eurovision song going viral here (for a Eurovision song standards, the contest still not well-known here). You can see on the UA-cam comments lots of latinos getting behind the song. Although I don't know if 12 points from Latin America, would mean 12 points from ROW. But I think it'd translate in more than 2 points. Actually if Eaea was able to get 2 points from us (if we were the reason), definetely this one should get more than that. No shade to Blanca Paloma, but I know what type of songs latin people usually like, and it wasn't that, but whatever old news. Overall I'm happy for Spain, Zorra was my favorite song in the selection. Obviously, I'm biased cuz I understand the lyrics and get the message inmediately. Even though I'm not part of the demographics this song is aiming to, but Idc. Good Luck Spain
ok thats awesome, cos it kinda of means that Spain could get a minimum of 12 points from the televote then..
Actually a positive of points exchange (ROM & MOL), (CYP & GRE) is that it ensures they dont end up with single digit televote scores
Los españoles estamos encantados de que les guste a Vds, yo tampoco pertenezco a esa parte de fans que pilarizan supuestamente este tipo de controversias para cierta clase de gente (desfasada socialmente, es mi opinión) y pone de manifiesto la casi obligación de dar a entender que el mundo cambia y ha cambiado el concepto de la liberación de la mujer como síntoma de progreso social en pos de una mejor colaboración en la disolución de los traumas que parece mentira causan ciertas situaciones que no deberían de darse, ni tan siquiera tampoco en los hombres, porque al fin y al cabo el mensaje de esta canción se resuelve como un concepto personal y cada uno se sabe lo suyo.Gracias por su exposición y que viva Latinoamérica.🎉
We Spaniards are delighted that you like it, I also do not belong to that part of fans who supposedly support this type of controversies for a certain class of people (socially out of date, in my opinion) and it shows the almost obligation to make it clear that the world is changing and the concept of women's liberation has changed as a symptom of social progress in pursuit of better collaboration in the dissolution of traumas that it seems incredible cause certain situations that should not occur, not even in the men, because at the end of the day the message of this song is resolved as a personal concept and each one knows their own thing. Thank you for your presentation and long live Latin America.
Me alegra que te guste. Ojalá hubiera un latinoeurovisión. Sería muy interesante ❤
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i think sending the song that the country likes the most is the best way to go i like that attitude of the spanish people i love eurovision for its authencity and this is so authentic so i think if all countries will have this mentality the best eurovsisions will come
International Vote Calling! And our 12 points go to SPAIN!!! The song is such an international smash hit already. People are loving this bop! I love the performance and the many symbolic layers it conveys. I love that you also educated yourself on Manuela Trasobares 💖💝💖💝 and have her her roses 💝💖💝💖 in the Spanish World this is a full circle cultural moment.
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Great reaction. Thanks for taking the time to get the lyrics Tom, most English reaction don’t even bother to find out what the song is about and like you said, it is the most important part of the song.
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I think she might need a backing vocalist to help her hit some of those notes, but over all I love it so much, I can wait to see it in Malmo!
Europe, listen :"cambiar por ti me da pereza" 😂
People keep mentioning her age but she is the same age as Kylie Minogue. I would love to see this song covered by Kylie. In any case, I am obsessed with this entry
i honestly found this super catchy from my first listen (at the benidorm semi-final, not the studio version) so there's definitely people this will click with !! i also think that seeing the crowd excited for a song really makes you love it more, and i can DEFINITELY picture the crowd at malmo shouting zorra zorra zorra! 100% agree with you that a backup singer could make a massive difference, and i really hope they go for that
What? In not studio version omg u re a hero!. I really like with the studio video officiak
En Eurovisión cada país debería cantar en su propio idioma, así empezó este concurso, cantando cada uno en su idioma y con su música folclórica y tradicional, con el propósito de la unión y la paz entre todos los países europeos.
Desgraciadamente esa autenticidad se perdió hace tiempo, y empezó a ser más político y a predominar canciones comerciales y en inglés.
La globalización hizo que se fuese perdiendo aquel mensaje apolítico e idiosincrático de los países europeos.
Esta canción se canta íntegramente en español, quien quiera saber lo que dice la letra que busque traducción a su idioma, sin problema.
El español es el idioma materno más hablado en el mundo occidental (500millones de hispanohablantes), y además, es uno de los idiomas más bellos del mundo por su sonoridad.
Nunca le damos más importancia al inglés que a nuestro propio idioma, y recomiendo que el mundo entero haga lo mismo que los españoles. Ser auténticos!
I loved this! I can see this playing in every club all over Europe and beyond. I get an Eartha Kitt vibe from Maria and as for those dancers 😍😍😍😍 Cheeky. 4/5 from me 👍🏻
This is the first candidate to be my this years favorite. What I heard until now (not everything out at this point) it's the strongest by like a mile. Especially with knowing the meaning behind it.
In Corpore Sano was the same situation and it came 5th so I don’t think Spain will have an issue especially considering that multiple other countries speak Romance languages (Italy, France, Romania, Moldova, Portugal) so they will likely pick up on the meaning quicker than a Serbian entry. We can’t ask for native language entries and then expect them to pander to English speaking audiences.
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I don’t want them to pander. But konstrakta got some of her message across with the imagery and what wasn’t gotten across was still very entertaining visuals anyway.
I think they can get the meaning of zorra across without using English if they just think laterally like konstakta did
Great review. Your respectful way of communicating your ideas is impressive. You are well informed, and I can tell you did a throughly research before making your video. Great job!
Thank you 🙏🏻
This song wont make us win, but it is the song that we are most proud of in all Eurovision history :)
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Estarás tú, porque yo estoy más orgullosa de otras....
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I'm warming up to this more and more every day. I hope they'll do well :)
i just discovered your page and i´m obsessed i cant wait to watch this video now
Thank you so much for your professional and honest reaction, greetings from Alicante and good luck for everybody🎉🗣📣ZORRA!ZORRA!ZORRA!🤟🦊💣🍹👑🎵🎶🇪🇦❤️🔥🇪🇺
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Tom. Nailed it! Absolutely 100% correct. Loved St Pedro but glad they sent a song that Spain already loves. I agree using the LEDs to convey the meaning ( middle aged women dancing to it ? ). I like the glass smashing idea!
I am loving it... ❤❤❤❤ good luck to Spain from North Carolina.🎉🎉🎉🎉
apparently Mark used to be the singer of the group but recently Maria decided she wanted to try that spot in the group and he supported her. Also she sent the song to BF without telling him
She is amazing😂😂😂
I'm always glad when this song comes up on my playlist which is a good sign. I think it even has the potential of becoming 'Eurovision iconic' ... more so than many of the winners at Eurovision. The lyrics are great too (having Spanish as a second language).
I indeed loved this from the first listen and I think this will become a classic ❤❤
Amazing and perfect reaction and understanding of the whole stuff around the song and performance ❤thanks
Gracias Tom, por un análisis tan completo…… el explicar el mensaje es esencial en esta propuesta, y lo has hecho de 10.
Muchas gracias 🙏🏻
@@ESCTom a ti.
Te sigo desde hace años. Eres muy respetuoso siempre. Eso me gusta.
Suerte para esta temporada 🦊🦊🦊
Muchas gracias.....🙌🙌🙌🙌💪🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🎯🎁
By the way, you are very eloquent and I love it.
thank you Jose 🙏🏻
My life has changed since Tom decided to pan out his camera frame. 🥵
Spain gran letra ..gran mensaje. Divertidísima la canción, te hace vibrar. Ella muy elegante , la batería y teclado impecable y los chicos waaaaooo!!
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I can see this being my guilty pleasure song of this year! Love the 80's vibe, the message and the age representation 🦊
This was a great analysis!
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Thank you for the review. You´ve understood the message.
(BTW, I love your house -the pottery is gorgeous, and so is the furniture!)
Thank you Rosario 🙏🏻❤️
Maraaya was a married duo with kids at the time of participation. I guess a lot of people still don't think of it as a ship name, but rather only her stage name xD
This song gets more iconic every day!
Amazing reaction!!!! Thanks
What a great constructive and carefully researched reaction for this song. Thank you for being so professional and amusing, Tom. I hope the RTVE delegation can watch your video and take note of your well-intentioned and honest comments. The song is already a hymn in Spain and hopefully its carefree message can get translated and spread across Europe.
Thank you 🙏🏻
Really love your video ❤️
honestly every time I listen to this song it gets better and better. The live performance was amazing just need to get those vocals to be a bit cleaner
To me the focal point of this act was the amazing 80's synthpop sound and the charisma and sass of singer. That's universal.
Commercially the song is already a huge success for being the most downloaded song internationally. It is also a success as a cultural claim for worldwide attention with an incredible degree of identification in the Latin American countries. It's also become popular among many Europeans and bearing in mind, the considerable percentage of Latin Americans in Europe, it may turn out being quite successful. I do agree that most people in Europe will miss out the message somehow for not being so much an issue being called a bitch. Anyway, the song has a good drive and vibe and that works in the Eurovision Contest. The crew are definitely working hard on the singer's vocal performance which is the weak point of it. And loads of fans shouting Zorra, Zorra, Zorra and even singing the whole song, will give it a great fun moment and that's what Spain always goes for no matter the result.
Amazing analysis, as always! 🙌
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In concept, I like this. It has a cool message, great lyrics, great synths and I also like the age representation. It’s great to see someone completely unknown starting their music career in their 60s.
That being said, this screams bottom 5. Her voice isn’t penetrating enough and gets swallowed up in the instrumental.
Edit: I just watched the video and we basically had the same points 😁
they absolutely and utterly must sort out these vocals as a first priority. get her with the honest vocal coach or any vocal coach and practice practice practice
She’s 55, he’s 47
In her fifties
Thank you Tom, you took the time to go through the message, there are few YT’s who were making fun of her age, specially one who were truly horrible of her, I know you prefer “dos estrańos” as I follow you on X, beautiful song but in Spain we have decided this our song
oh yea definitely. ive been through enough Eurovisions now that I know its pointless to hold grudges and just reduces the enjoyment of the contest. But I was quite sad about st Pedro, which is while i took a few days away before I wrote this episode 😅
@@ESCTom St Pedro was my favourite too but I’m embracing Nebulossa as this is what the Spanish wanted, I’m Spanish too so I’m happy with the song, thank you Tom
So happy this won! I haven't loved a song this much since Shum. ♥ I'm even learning it in Spanish 😆 Thank you for finding the cup throwing video. Can anyone explain what the audience were chanting and what the presenters seemed to be apologising for during the voting of Benidormfest? My Spanish isn't good enough to understand!
Almacor had technical issues where his LEDs didnt work and some pyro didnt go off, and they wouldnt let him redo his performance
@@ESCTom Thank you so much! ♥ That's been bothering me all week! 😆
An excellent and very complete analysis, I really liked it. Just one thing, "Zorra" in Spanish means literally "vixen" (not "bitch"), although it is used in the sense of calling "bitch" to a woman, but "zorra" is the female of "zorro" ("fox ").
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this could do absolutely anything apart from win this could be Europe's guilty pleasure and finish top 10 or could finish bottom 5 and flop there were better options no doubt but there was also worse what I am liking about benidorm fest is the variety of winners so it does give encouragement from different genres
This is why it's such a good test for the Spanish delegation. Because as you said this could be top 10 or bottom 10, based completely on how they are able to work the performance and make foreigners appreciate it or not.
Genial!!!
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I like a lot this song, and as you say, Spanish don´t care about the score. Is our decisión, and our anthem
The song 'ZORRA' by Nebulossa is an anthem of empowerment and personal vindication in the face of labels and social judgments. The lyrics address the theme of how society tends to judge and stigmatize women for their behavior, especially if they deviate from traditional norms of behavior. The repetition of the word 'slut' throughout the song functions as a reappropriation of the term, which combined is used in a derogatory manner towards women who live their sexuality and freedom openly and unapologetically.
The artist expresses his refusal to change his nature to please others and celebrate his moment of self-acceptance and inner strength. The song reflects a process of personal reconstruction, where the protagonist empowers herself and becomes a 'postcard vixen', an image that defies expectations and criticism. The song's narrative suggests that, despite criticism, the woman has found her own path and is proud of who she is, regardless of the labels society imposes on her.
The message of 'ZORRA' is clear: it is a call for liberation from judgments and the affirmation of one's own identity. Nebulossa uses music as a platform to express the fight against machismo and the importance of self-esteem and self-respect. The song is an example of how art can be used to challenge social norms and promote cultural change towards greater equality and acceptance of diverse identities and lifestyles.
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I love all of your t-shirts
Totally gratuitous comment here, but Tom is looking so buff lately in his many, many jerseys.
There was actually a story in the Dutch newspaper I read every day about this song today! It was about how some Spanish feminists feel that it's a degrading song, and that even the Spanish PM has spoken out in support of Nebulossa. Maybe this kind of press attention will help to create some buzz about Zorra and help to get the message across.
While there's much to like here, I love the representation, the attitude, the empowerment, the fun Spanish disco sound, I do fear that it won't be understood well. Like you, I had high hopes for St. Pedro, who might have been an easier choice for Spain. In the end I did feel slightly deflated after Benidorm Fest, because St. Pedro didn't really deliver as much as I hoped he would. And my hopes for a good result for Spain in Malmö aren't that high now. I can totally get behind this entry though, I really like them and as I said there's much to like about the song.
Yea I saw that thing about it being anti-feminist, I initially thought it was a joke. How people could infer the opposite of the intended meaning was so odd to me.
Agree about st Pedro, the staging had cool elements but could have been so much better. There was no colour or warmth and the strip club dancing didn’t work. And he skipped my favourite note!!!!!! 😭
@@ESCTom indeed, that staging was disappointing and I thought his vocal lacked the warmth it needed.
TIRA LA COPA!! ZORRA 😅😅😅❤❤❤❤❤
I find your analysis very interesting ! Her vocals definitely need to be strengthened, her voice is sweet and soft. I wonder if having the lyrics translated during the performance would distract the public. This is a songs and a message that are going to have a growing impact even before the beginning of the contest.
She wasn't the only one surprised when she won.
A group of countries, especially in the East, are never going to vote for Spain. It doesn't matter what represent us. The problem is not de song. We will never compete to win again. For that reason we don't care: because we have assumed it collectively.
I haven't seen in Spain a national feeling of theft, like on your channel, but: "what have we done to them?" For example, I know Italy and France well and I know that they love Chanel's type of Latin Music more than us, you hear it everywhere there!!!. I was very shocked by the ABSOLUTE rejection of the jury vote and televoting in those countries.
We also think that if Europe doesn't like our art...our culture...music... women's butts, men's butts... Maybe the problem is not our problem, and we shouldn't change anything. Es mas importante ser quien uno es, que ganar un festival que debería ser pura diversión sin prejuicios
what are you talking about? chanel's only 12 televote points were from an eastern european country. half of her 10 points were from eastern european countries. eastern europe has nothing against spain, spain is a very well-liked country around here
Envidia …
You nail it, no matter what Spain sent we don’t get good results, we sent Chanel, we thought she got it, will get the victory but apparently because of the war at that time she didn’t won even if UK got top of us, ok let’s send Paloma, our roots, this is what Europe expect from us, framenco, 5 points from the public, pues eso Zorra Zorra y al quien lo le guste pues que mas da
Dejad de quejaros tanto, porque la realidad es que la industria musical española sólo apuesta por el pop latino para que suene en discotecas, etc ...
Ya no hay grandes artistas que sepan hacer actuaciones impresionantes en directo y los pocos que hay, no están Interesados en Eurovisión, porque ya no necesitan promoción si han triunfado, concursar no da dinero y sí mucho trabajo.
Así que nos tenemos que conformar con que haya suerte y salga de vez en cuando un buen artista del Benifest que lo quiera dar todo y tenga suerte de llevar una canción pegadiza, como pasó con Chanel. Pero eso fue una excepción.
This song is mainly dedicated to Manuela Trasobares who pronounced an unforgettable speech LIVE on a TV show while she throws away several glasses. This is considered as an iconic moment in the Spanish television. Years later, she became the first transsexual women elected in a local election in Spain. She is an opera singer, and she has had a very interesting life. I highly recommend you to WATCH this speech on UA-cam so you can understand much better The story behind The song ZORRA (and all The references in her video).
reveal yourself and throw away the cup!🍷💥🔥🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊🦊
I would just love if Spain had like a mini Disco on Stage with like the Walls simaliar to Malta 2019. I think they should go all out with delivering the Disco Vibe.
We all need to be a bit Zorra
Sofa-wise, I hope they don't run into the same terrible staging decision/situation of Portugal in 2023 (Ai coração) that ended up with no staging what-so-ever.
Zorra is so far one of my favourites. Love the song, but I agree the vocals should be stronger. Love the staging and show!
Thanks Tom.
Let's see, I completely agree with most of the comments made on your part, but, taking into account that for me I think it is very difficult in any situation to be able to convey any message in depth in just 3 minutes that the performance, it is true that there are professional people who are possibly capable of getting a good result. For example, I have seen and heard the Slovenia version and it doesn't seem bad to me, but I haven't understood anything, I admit that I barely know English, imagine if I don't even they sing it. On the other hand, the artist who does it very well, comes out practically naked, what do you have to say to this? I think that Spain's performance is modern, elegant, with a message (third world language), the voice of The singer that day was not well and the dancers do not have to be scantily clad women, which is what people in their families see as normal. That's all, thanks for listening.
Please try to translate the lyrics which is full of heavy metal , relevant message
The translation of zorra is vixen but the word doesn't have the English connotación. As you said zorra is stronger than b&tch it actually means sl8t. She will be called Zorra no matter what, so instead she embraces it and is empowered.
I love her representing her demographic, it just adds to it even more.
There is so much to like about this song, the artists and the performance. I didn't get the message the song conveys until I read the English translation - it then leapt in my admiration and, importantly, the performance, including the dancers, made far more sense. You're absolutely right Tom the meaning behind the song needs to be conveyed, probably with visuals. In 2023 Austria and Czechia had strong messages in their lyrics. IMHO Czechia conveyed the message well in their visuals; Austria far less so. Fingers crossed it becomes a Eurovision anthem! Thanks Tom for an in depth and witty analysis!
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I have a funny story about the word "zorra" I'm a big Legend of Zelda fan and actually wanted to name my new adopted puppy Zora, I was dating a Spanish guy at the time and he was like "no you cannot name your pet Zora" and then taught me what the word means 😂😅 that was about 10 years ago so when I first heard this song I was like "oh they're using that naughty word" 😂
OMG IM A HUGE ZELDA FAN TOO 🤩
@@ESCTom it's my other special interest along side Eurovision 😂😅 I'm honestly suck at dork but I love what I love
ZORRA ZORRA ❤❤❤❤❤SPAIN
I usually find your perspective too conservative but I must say I agree with you this time.
tom I think you are wrong - I think the message is already out there and it will get bigger and bigger
i guarantee you that 99%+ of casual fans outside of Spain absolutely wont have heard of it
THANKS for your video❤ The song includes the request for WOMEN'S FREEDOM that was already made in Spain in the 80s, with songs for example by the singer ALASKA (when she said "who cares what I do, who cares what I say, I am like this and I will continue like this, I will never change" which everyone still knows because it is a GAY ANTHEM)
Well, this song says the same thing but claiming that AGE DOES NOT MATTER. DE singer Mary wasn't famous until NOW
After CHANEL we don't expect to win. Nebulossa has a sweet and elegant voice, it doesn't matter that she doesn't win ❤
Love the song, hate the live...she really needs to work on it and/or get some backing vocals/track to help her.
oh 100%, it's just too easy of an out for a casual fan or a jury member, they can't give them ANY excuse to stop watching
What do you say before every song? Wanna know my secret band??
Wanna know my secret, bang!
Are u from Ireland 🇮🇪? ❤❤❤
yep ☘️
I'm really pleased Spaniards are able to connect with their entry but from what I've seen it's message only comes across to someone who understand Spanish. Those who don't speak spanish don't seem to connect with this song in the same way and for that reason I can't see this song doing well for Spain. And I know I'll get hate for saying this... I wouldn't be surprised if Spain finishes last in Malmo.
Honestly if this does come last, it’s cos the delegation messed up. Cos it shouldn’t be last
nebulossa has a dream and spain launched to the lucky strike. nebulossa was the best option
I think the focus will just be on the dancers
Definitely what we wanted this year! Vamos a zorrear para toda Europa! It's not just a feminist anthem, it's a TRANSfeminist anthem, which is something most people forget!
stop taking women's spaces. it's a feminist song.
if transwomen are women then why is there a need to say Zorra is transfeminist? see the hypocrisy?
Zorra is a feminist song.
She is not a professional singer. She is just "an act" but still will be memorable in Eurovision especially the dancers asses.😍
Everyone can improve vocally though if they have vocal lessons
What do you say always direct before you start a video? You say it so fast, i don't understand 😂
Wanna know my secret, bang!
Okay, haha 😂
Thank you. Like your reactions!
🍷beauty tom only you !. thank u
I wasn't expecting this song to win, I was expecting St.Pedro to win but this song is also good. However, I don't think this will get top 5.
Don't mind this at all. Her vocals are not great indeed but she's hard not to notice.
I do love this song and it's vintage disco vibe, I just don't love what the dancers are wearing, only because I knew if the genders were reversed I also wouldn't be comfortable seeing female dancers sexualised.
But I do understand this song is about sexual empowerment, but I just don't like when people are objectified. That's my only complaint.
The song is such a bop and Spain just want to have fun this year with a fun song ❤
I almost never understand Spain's music, each time I have no idea why everyone is hyped about it
Read the lyrics so simple
@@josanosasa I'm not talking about the language... but about the vibe
Spain wasn't going to win anyways so I'm glad they sent a fun song with a message.
In my opinion the two biggest problems this song have are both the 80s tune and her voice, and you can see people saying here "the important part are the lyrics" but that is something that most people outside of Spain will not know, therefore they will not care. If at least her voice were to be as good as the message. The whole packaging diminishes the value of the message itself. Ironically making her not the best choice for this song. There must be for certain other women of her age range who can do justice to this song.
im sure if they get her a vocal coach, her vocals could improve a lot in 3 months
The 2 dancers in the music video do make me feel uncomfortable so thats hurting the song a little bit in my opinion. I dont know how much my opinion matters because being an Australian because the final will be very early in the morning and I dont plan on getting up at 3 or 4am to watch eurovision but by the time voting opens It might be 7 if that is the case and its 7 when voting is happening I might vote if its earlier than 6:45am there is no chance of me voting but as of Right now I want France to win and as someone who is learning French it would be cool to see France with the trophy in both Junior Eurovision and Adult Eurovision. Zoè has already won so Zoè and Slimane with the trophy would be very cool and no country has ever held both trophies at the same time. France also have a 3peat to strive for which has only been done once between both contests. If France can do well in Adult Eurovision that would make them a Powerhouse in Both Contests. Kinda just realised this comment is more about France than Spain but I do like France more than Spain. I just went on a tangent about the fact I want France to win at the moment but Spain is Probably in My Top 5 because My Bottom 5 I have bigger issues with them than a couple guys making me feel uncomfortable that probably wont be an issue in May. Could this year have all the Big 5 in the Top 5? Given Germanys Record Probably not
... Heyy you, I respect toy prefer France song, for me it's good but very classic, as Tom Says, we don't mind the opinion of the people this year and I love love love the dancers with their corsets, I expect Nebulossa don't change it.
It doesn't sound Zorra.
It sounds Thorra.
That's the way the "z" letter is prounounced in Spanish (in Spain).
Pronounce "I thought".
Keep the "th" sound of it.
And then say "Thorra".
Not "Zorra".
Ok cool. Will do in the future
La Venda was a crap song. No staging could save it.
I think what Eurofans will be missing is the message.
Surely reading the lyrics you will understand why the audience behaved like this proudly shouting "Z0RRA".
Don't say "Z0RRA" cause it basically sounds like "S0RRA".
Try to say "THOR-RRA" instead of "Z0RRA" cause in Spanish the "Z" sounds like a strong "TH".
And yes, she has no voice and the song is not very good.
But who cares? She says that at 55yo she doesn't care casuse she don't want to be a great singer.
Cause it's no longer a song... NOW IT'S AN ANTHEM!!!
This is the oficial video with lyrics in English:
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The song is not very good? It is a good song, maybe you dont like It, that is diferente
@@anagp9015 De dónde sacas que no me gusta ???
Me has oído decir que no me guste ???
La canción hace aguas por todas partes y ella no tiene voz.
Si tu fanatismo te ciega/ensordece y eres incapaz de asumir esos hechos ese es tu problema.
@@ializarg dices que no es una canción muy buena. No es fanatismo. Una canción no tiene que ser cantada con gran potencia vocal para ser buena
Y cuándo he dicho yo que una canción tenga que ser cantada con gran potencia vocal para ser buena ???
No pongas palabras en mi boca.
Y aquí nadie habla de potencia.
Billie Holiday era una maravillosa cantante y tenía un hilillo de voz.
Y hay interpretes con gran potencia vocal que tampoco saben cantar.
(Ellos creen que sí porque piensan, como sus fans, que una voz grande es lo mismo que una gran voz)
Una canción puede ser buena y cantarse en un susurro.
Una canción puede ser mala y cantarla una soprano.
Yo soy de los 80 y me gustan estos sonidos, entro en la canción, me divierte y me encantan el concepto y el mensaje.
Como otros temas de le época y el estilo (la primera Fangoria, Yurena/Tamara/Ambar, MacNamara, etc) el ritmo y la idea predominan sobre lo vocal.
Y esta canción es un tema musicalmente fallido.
Tras la pirotecnia techno ochentera hay una nuy endeble estructura, con un estribillo que no destaca en un conjunto que no evoluciona.
Es como un tema descartado o de relleno de Alaska... no una buena canción de Carlos Berlanga.
(Y ninguno de ellos destacaban por sus voces, pero podían hacer algo bueno o mediocre... como aquí)
Y ella canta como un grillo.
La prueba la tienes en el vdeio oficial, con su voz pasada por el autotune que ahí sí funciona.
Pero en directo ella es una castaña vocal.
Y no hay más.
@@ializarg lo que ud. Diga
"Funny" how EBU made Måneskin change a single bad word, but very common in Italian language, in their song and allows a much stronger bad word (Madame's song in last year Sanremo used the same word for the title and RAI made her change it although she used the word in the lyrics) used in the title and repeated throughout the song.
EBU being ridiculous and unfair is the only certainty here.
You seem to be a bit obsessed by the "butts". I hardly noticed them....why? cos I was loving the song and her performance. Fun , upbeat and an obvious crowd pleaser.....the reaction made me smile. Loved the fact she is a smidgen older than some would like but she is sassy and why not. I'm sure the Spanish fans do care about the placing/points.....we all should want the best for our country..NO?
Anyway I love it ...best Spanish entry for years and such an improvement on last year's song which I disliked with a passion (my 26th ranking out of 26....sorry Spanish not my cappa at all)
So....good luck this year and keep those butts in especially for Tom!!!!
im focusing on them because it will 100% be a focal point at Eurovision. Within the Eurovision bubble, we love it. but the reality is that many casuals fans will instantly dismiss this because of that, especially if there is no context given
@@ESCTom Honestly ,It was tongue in cheek....pulling your leg.
Of course I noticed and I too loved it.....camp, fun, decent song and ESC at its best. Can't wait to enjoy on the big night.
@@ESCTom Honestly, even within the Eurovision bubble and as a gay man, I personally don't like it and I agree with all your point wholeheartedly: it's distracting, it's not something that hasn't been done before and it won't be understood without context by the general public and we know Eurovison doesn't give context before exhibitions.
I mean, even a professional like Graham Norton, whose job is to comment Eurovision when it airs, totally missed the point of the gorilla on Gabbani's "Occidentali's Karma" making an ignorant tweet that he had to delete few minutes later after being lambasted by viewers.
This year in Sanremo they briefly explain the meaning of the song before each exhibition: Eurovision should do the same.
This is probably the most odd choice for a 2024 representative. It's very outdated and I don't understand the hype around it other than the fact that she is old and quirky. The dancing is obscene imo and I even liked Let 3 last year 😂 so I think it says a lot
The song is just too monotonic. After 30 seconds, you’ve heard the whole song.
Very weak voice.....
Ppl love such cheap songs , might go far...