The linguistics of Zaddy
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2022
- Where does the word "zaddy" come from? There are as many hot takes as there are hot zaddies, but I think mine's better: It's a story of phonetic assimilation, auditory biases, and borrowing across dialects. Stay to the end for a special musical guest!
Link to the IPA "zaddy" shirt: teespring.com/zaddy-tee
SNL "Westminster Daddy Competition" video: • Dog Show - SNL
NBC's (wrong) video about the origin of Zaddy: • NEW SLANG: Zaddy - Why...
Salt 'n' Pepa "Shoop" video: • Salt-N-Pepa - Shoop
John Leguizamo from 1992: • John Leguizamo is Mann...
Bree Runway and Yung Baby Tate "Damn Danny": • Bree Runway, Yung Baby...
Digital Underground (Shock G RIP) "Humpty Dance": • Digital Underground - ...
Ty Dolla $ign "Zaddy": • Ty Dolla $ign - Zaddy ...
Language Zaddy is absolutely accurate in this case
Zaddddyy thank you for the tutorial!!
Now you can explain to people how to say "Vladdy Daddy" in proper American.
and there’s another Language Zaddy right here
Or to commit to the accent: “Zaddy, dank you fur da tsutsorial!”
I always thought zaddy was what it would sound like if the twink saying it was really drunk
LO L!!!
But now that I think about it, that makes perfect sense. 😉
"Sexy daddy of unspecified paternal status" is how i like all my zaddies
"LanguageZaddy" 😂 You're funny dude. Really enjoying your content! I need to dust off my old linguistics BA get back into reading more, because I've missed linguistics so much.
Thank you! There's been a lot of interesting recent work in linguistics, so you'll have plenty to dig into
I would not mind calling you my "Language Zaddy" hahaha
"and this is languagezaddy." I burst out laughing.
I completely agree with the analysis because I always assumed zaddy was just daddy with a Latin accent. Im latino so I guess I took for granted that not everyone heard the same thing.
LangZaddy, it’s too soon in your UA-cam career to walk yourself into an embarrassing nickname!
Seriously though, I’m sick at home right now with an ... “undisclosed and culturally relevant illness” and have watched all of your videos. I really appreciate your content and have enjoyed it a lot!
Yesterday, someone asked me what my “comfort TV show” is while I’m sick. I said, “I don’t have one, but I DID just watch the entirety of someone’s linguistics UA-cam channel today???”
Hottest linguistics vid ever
Recently discovered this channel and wanted to say, "Kudos!!" You manage to cram a crap-ton of information in a fun, accessible way. I look forward to this channels future.
Thank you!
@@languagejones6784 speaking of kudos:
a) I subscribed
b) do you know where the expression came from?
100% spot on explanation. I’ve noticed the evolution hispanic “dzaddy” to zaddy as well. Living in a diverse city it’s easier to see the changes over time.
comment partly for the almighty algorithm, partly to let you know that I subscribed from the liguaphile video and I have really been enjoying the rest of the stuff you make :D
Jeff Goldblum is absolutely a zaddy
The IPA symbol /æ/ is called ash because that's the name of the Old English letter æ. (Well, "ash" was spelled "æsc" in Old English, but it was pronounced the same as "ash" in modern English and it means "ash tree" in addition to being the name of the letter.) IPA borrowed the letter from Old English (because it needed a symbol to represent the English "cat" vowel) and the name of the letter came along for the ride.
Oh good someone else said this already! We talked a lot about how a bunch of the old Norse rune names were trees in my Irish myth and legend class in college (Ogham plus Vikings plus Latin apparently caused some weird spelling things when they were writing stuff in old Irish?)
That paterfamilias clip killed me 🤣
OMG Thank you for this. My ear has heard the language twisting, splitting and mutating over the years. When my ear recognizes those changes and I don't immediately understand why, the sound is forevermore irritating -- fingernails on a chalkboard (why this is so is a separate topic). However, if I have a narrative to accompany those instances where evolution plays peek-a-boo, my mind is welcoming and calm; sometimes even joyous, like meeting a baby for the first time. Your scholarship has made my journey noticeably more peaceful today.
cant believe the woman in the video you showed used the "Enzo Ferrari" as an example of "z used for fast cars for marketing reasons"... Enzo Ferrari is literally the founder's name, who they named that model in honour of. Apart from a couple of "Monza" racing car models from the 1950s, literally no other Ferrari model has a Z anywhere in its name
And those are named after a city, of course.
Romanian: 10= zece (originally dece/d̦ece); “said”= zis (originally d̦is); good day= bună ziua (originally bună d̦iua)
Zaddy… sorry…..Zaddy….sorry.
Just wanted to say, this is really similar to a historical sound shift in Romanian, where Latin /d/ before /i i: e/ became /dz/ and later /z/, giving for example Latin dies, deus, audire -> Romanian zi, zeu, auzi. (Latin /t/ shifted to /ts/ in the same environment.)
ti/tu/di/du in Japanese became affricates too!
Don't mind me. Just algorithm fluffing. As you were Zaddy.
i don't mind if you were my language zaddy 🥺
Your bit at 7:00 spoke to me a lot. I actually live in Thailand and am trying to learn the language. But here there are three sounds: ท, ด, ต. These roughly translate to: t, d, and dt.
(Actually ท is more often transliterated at “th” but that’s pronounced like Thailand, not thick.)
Anyway, that dt sound is right in that but you say our brain avoids and after three years here it’s still a struggle. Early attempts to say “naam taan” (sugar) were met with the equivalent confusion as if I had ordered booger.
I’m not disagreeing, of course. You were speaking in a very specific scope and I just wanted to add how challenging it is when your native hearing patterns are wrong.
I'm willing to bet one's learning style can play into that as well.
I'm a hands on learner so I tend to notice the sounds when I'm exposed to it and attempt it regularly. I needed videos to understand how 'ts' in Japanese worked but now people look at weird when I say tsunami correctly because it became ingrained that much. Didn't even learn Japanese outside of basic greetings. My brain holds onto the minuet stuff more than broader topics.
I'm guess those aren't great at hearing or hands on learning styles would struggle more because your brains focus elsewhere.
I'm gonna go nerd out about something else now 😂 apologies for the rambling
@@sourgreendolly7685oh dear, people pronouncing _tsunami_ with a plain /s/ sound is one of my big pet peeves. i try to be more understanding, and i know i'm biased bc in my native German /t͜s/ exists to begin with but.. it still hurts 😅
ท was originally pronounced /d/ in Old Thai, Pali, and Sanskrit.
I speak 3 languages but have no interest in linguistics or languages but damn, this is a really good channel.
Glad you enjoy!
Your explanation makes a lot of sense! Personally, I remember my friends using zaddy around 2013 to talk about Zayn Malik, so I was just under the impression that it came from his name lmfao. That is the context I learned it in, definitely, but your explanation is likely more accurate, especially considering d -> dz trend.
That's hilarious; I thought the same! I saw some Zayn stans use 'zaddy' on Twitter 2 years ago and that was my first time seeing that word. I assumed his stans invented it, but later I saw other people using it too.
You have the vibe and the beard, and could be a zaddy when you are older. Lol
Boy, you'll be a zaddy soon vibe.
Finding another UA-camr that just hits is a great feeling
i already love this channel lmfao
I just wrote daddy in the other video and found this video like lmao 😂 Anyways wish you a great one langZaddy.
It really is true anyone can say anything on the internet. They just say it confidently and boom, it’s true 😂 Thanks for this, I have been curious.
I always thought zaddy was someone you want to call daddy but doesnt fit into the boundries of a daddy.
Too late. You are now Language Daddy.
7:00 "Our perception [of phonemes] is all-or-nothing". Lucky you. I'm awful at figuring out what phoneme something is. I hear things as 'well, it was a little closer to u as pronounced by students in high-school French class, but maybe it was a short i, or ...', and by that time the lyrics have gone on and I've completely missed five other words. It was useful in high-school French class, when I could pick up distinctions that other kids had trouble with, but overall it's a curse.
As for "zaddy", I think there's a distinction to be made between where it came from and why it caught on beyond the groups where its origin made sense. It seems plausible to me that if oo is a booba phoneme and ee is kiki one, then maybe z is a jazzy sound.
I sat up a bit when you were talking about assibilation. I live 30 miles from Liverpool in England and the accent there has many distinctive features. One of them is the very soft way of pronouncing t and d in front of all vowel sounds including a, o and u. In fact, also at the end of a word.
I guess I have been living under a rock. I have never heard this word.
This was excellent ! I would absolutely love if you could do a video with Luca Lampariello, OR Stuart Jay Raj.
Liam Neeson is the all-time zaddy. Even if he’s only a couple years older’n me.
So fascinating to trace these processes and feel the language breathing!
The video we didn't know we needed
You hear it in the Irish of South Connemara as well the 'it' in 'duit'
This is so interesting I had no idea about the song so I had always thought it came from the Yiddish zayde
Clearly you're the zaddy
more content please. please im begging you
I've never heard of the word "zaddy" but listened to it anyway. Interesting.
Dope video
who's the daddy? you're the zaddy.
Dizzouble Dizzutch! Dizzouble Dizzutch!
Izzalrizight!
@@languagejones6784 izzo kizzay
Hey LanguageJones! I wanted to ask you, for someone who loves learning about other cultures including their languages, how should one choose what language to learn? Unfortunately we only have a lifetime to learn the languages that we can. It also depends on how well you wish to be able to speak the language. For example, I am interested in learning either Arabic or Farsi. While Arabic is more widely spoken and useful for traveling/learning cultures, learning Farsi (or less common languages) could potentially lead to very interesting opportunities and rare experiences as I believe may be possible when learning languages with a "smaller pond" of speakers
I'm not LJ but I am a language lover. I learned Spanish because I loved the language and Mexican culture. Obviously living in Texas for 20+ years gave me opportunities to use it but even if that were different I'd still have learned it. I hope this helps.
I think this one video is going to improve my Spanish pronunciation by Leaps and Bounds
This is my first exposure to the word zaddy.
LOL Jzeff Goldblum.
"jazz, pazazzz, whiz, y'know, the cool people and expensive stuff sound"
I'm so glad you're my only exposure to such drivel
Loved this zadddy
In the meantime, Geoff Lindsay made a great video about the (mentioned) tube>chube shift in British English: ua-cam.com/video/RRs103ETh2Q/v-deo.html
Have you ever check out korean? i've started a course and i love it, but i wanna know if you have any opinions or know anything about it? :D
I feel like I can agree entirely with this and still agree with the idea at the beginning that this (also) persists because English speakers across time have been "coolifying" English by playing around with zippy sounding letter sounds that don't otherwise get as much use like Z sounds.
Nice video! I've seen this in other languages:
Breton mutates /t/ to /d/ in certain contexts, and to /z/ in others!
For example, the word for father /ˈtɑːt/ becomes or :
- tad ha mamm (father and mother)
- da dad (your father)
- ma zad (my father), he zad (her father)
I call on CELTIC INFLUENCE in current English. Prove me wrong!
This is not the same phenomenon. This is intervocalic frication, not palatal affrication. Breton's Z comes from /ð/ and is part of the Celtic mutation system which is common to all Celtic languages.
Great video, boost
Where have I been. When I see Zaddy, I think the Yissish Zaidy (or is it Zaidie/Zady/Zadie/Zade?).
hey I dont want to alarm you, but I think there's a temporal rift in the fabric of space-time inside your apartment/studio. There seems to be a PC speaker from 1995 that has materialized itself on the shelf behind you
Got rid of those when we moved, but I regret it every day. They sounded great
Wow, mind blown!!!!
Awsome
I don't like using [ɾ] for the alveolar tap. Why not [ᴅ]? I can hear the difference between the two like in English, related to the T's and D's versus my native language, related to the rhotic and it's annoying to see one used for both sounds.
Okay but you are a zaddy LOL
I honestly thought before this video that „zaddy“ came from the „valley girl“ accent because of the signature nasal tone (and if I’m not mistaken a lisp also?)
technically, there's no nasality involved, and "lisp" refers to a slightly different phenomenon. Wealthy and upper-middle class white women from the San Fernando valley are much more likely to have a /d/ that is further back, and lowering and retraction of the vowel, to something I'd hear like "dahddy"
We’re gonna need that z to be more prolonged and sibilant these days
Fun and interesting
nice
You've always been language zaddy to me 😏
Fascinating to hear it's not related to zayde; I was dead sure there was some influence there.
May we never see the day that zayde becomes sexualized by the youth, chas v’shalom 😂
Thank you! I've only seen zaddy used to describe younger men (in their 20s), so I thought it was a Gen-Z Daddy. This makes so much more sense and is way less cringe.
It's called "ash" because the letter Æ was named "æsc" in Old English.
This reminds me a lot of what happeded to Japanese tu/du
VOT is so hardcore
I wonder if I can use this to help me hear the differences in the Hindi sounds whose only difference is where your tongue touches in your mouth
waiting for you to rename the channel LanguageZaddy
That should be an alter ego with his own channel
Yes ... Tom Hiddleston is my zaddy ❤
So informative! I thought zaddy was exclusive to us in the LGBT community until now.
??? Wow, I really am living under a rock.........
to quote Angeldust: ooooo, more plosive fortition, zaddy!
what happened in French btw where as i understand it /k/ became affricate specifically in front of /a/? that makes no sense, since that's a low vowel.
anyway, Jeff Goldblum is a based choice 👍
Thank you for satisfying my nerdy need to understand this lol
& Jeff Goldblum is whatever he wants me to call him honestly 🥵
I thought ash was just the formal name of the IPA symbol æ.
Like schwa is the name for the ə symbol. (Even though that name doesn't have the /ə/ sound in it. Alas.)
Very cool content as uze. (see what I did there?) Thanks for helping me procrastinate cleaning out my hobby closet yet another 10 minutes. Love your channel.
Are zaddies also required to talk dirty? That’s the trillion dollar question.
Don't you mean the ʣillion dollar question?
Not sure if I live under a rock or something but I've never heard "dzaddy" or "zaddy" in my life, and I'm only 30 so you'd think with all the examples you just provided I would have done... I'm English but that shouldn't matter much. Pretty much everything these days comes from America, songs, films, programmes...
Either under a rock or not in New York. But "zaddy" had a huge internet moment, recently
Z is what speakers of Amsterdam street slang say when they mean s... it's hard to understand them for the rest of the country. They thus confuse the word soar, and the word sphere... zweer / sfeer two totally different things.
ZAMN!
Like we say in Dutch Oi gewelt...
I’m upset that no one mentioned why Jeff goldblum is a Zaddy. Also, I as just autocorrected to zaddy=Sadducee. That’s fun.
In Spain, it would be thaddy, I guess.
This is going to sound dumb
But I thought it was from Yiddish for grandpa hahaha
Like a daddy and a zayde because it’s like a wholesome daddy
That’s so funny because if I were to transliterate how some folks like Spanish inflected English say daddy
I would have written it maybe I don’t know
Tsaddy bunzaddybis better
I also see it mostly on Instagram after I post selfie’s people write zaddy a lot
And I thought it was like maybe like zayde
I don't think it's dumb at all. I didn't think of 'zayde' in particular but I was expecting some interplay of dt and z=ts at the beginning of a word, neither one of which hit the 'weird' button if you have family from central or eastern Europe and you live in NYC.
i guess we call Zaddy 性感大叔 in chinese mandarin~😉
Nice! How does 爷们儿 fit into the scheme of things?
@@languagejones6784 lol, 爷们儿 is more Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger, 性感大叔 is more George Clooney and you!
While the origins are often Black, Latinx, or Afro-Latino in many similar cases, I feel that in this particular case you have left out the edifying power of the gays.
Really good point. I’ll be sure to mention it in an upcoming video on exactly that!
In the LGBTI community, daddies exist in abundance; I wonder if they also change into zaddies... Since I do not live in an english speaking country, I don't know.
And mr. Jones, you are a daddy too...😁.
Ah you mean yuck..
You do realize that if you're right you're also wrong, because the z sounds better than d in the instance of that song and was used probably, just because of that, rendering the argument that it wasn't just that as wrong...
9:55 I have _ample_ reasons not to fake polyglottery, youtube or elsewhere.
You see, knowing to speak languages you have never learned (either natively or in kind of a classroom situation) is one of the signs of diabolic possession.
I tend to say "I only speak two languages, Latin and Germanic, but I speak them in many dialects" ... your choice whether English counts as one of Romance ("Latin") or as one of Germanic ...
My Polish and Ancient Greek are really so bad, after what I spent on them, and my Lithuanian so non-extant, that speaking of diabolic possession is ridiculous.
But to some, a list with two sets of sister languages, which go beyond one or two "languages" (usual sense - "a dialect with an army and a navy") is a claim of understanding all languages in the world, and if I don't understand Arabic, it's probably because it's the language of the Qoran, and the devil can't help me out there.
check out the Nicki Minaj zont zo it meme lol
benedict cumberbatch
I don't know how you possibly left boston out of this video, where "Dzawn" is a men's name and "Dzon" is a women's. And this is specifically in white working class accents.