You make a good point about the speed insignificance. I never noticed this b/c my player has a low speed rating. 2K11 was an overall better game, but the hall of fame mode and tweaking to My Player is better in 2K12. The AI is also better in 2K12. When I pass to my teammates in My Player mode, they actually do things on their own and don't rely on me all the time.
to be honest on hall of fame they dont make it more competitive they make the game cheat more i played hall of fame the otha night thinkin i would play a high speed competitive game but no i was wrong instead they make a LAST PLACE team outscore me 11-0 in the first these games just aint like they used to be smh
I think it was a last min change to make the speed more similar for better game play..less fast breaks and easy drives. Probably started off with good intentions, and got lazy fixing it up before release.
The problem is that the my player isn't running fast enough. If you see a John Wall or Derrick Rose fastbreak coast-to-coast video, you see them sprinting down the court taking about 2 steps per bounce of the ball. I do agree that some players like Pryzbilla and Oden are running a little too fast. When you see Derrick Rose run with the ball, he is running almost straight and swaying side to side trying to make it pass the defender. Shows that 2k12 needs a realistic NBA fastbreak.
I totally agree and yet there's still much more to be fixed. Like, whenever the opposing player is open, he WON'T miss, like, never! That's impossible. The other day, Perkins nailed a 17 footer, simply because he was open. That DOES NOT happen IRL, he would never attempt a 17 footer because he was open. Shot selection is a major issue aswell, it's like it doesn't matter the player and how low his atributes are, he can nail any shot because he's open.
If you move the left stick left to right, you will move significantly faster because the ball is in front of you & u are running after it hope it helps, thats why pros do it
One thing I have found is that if I double tap sprint(Sprint, slow down and sprint again, for some reason they speed suddenly works and you leave them in the dust,) I usually beat the guy chasing me on the break, not the other guys though...
Maybe height and stride distance matters too? Taller people can take bigger steps, so they don't have to move their feet as fast. It depends on the definition of "speed" in the game though. If "speed" is simply how fast a person will move at max, then something's wrong. But if it's the rate of foot movement, then height might matter. Babbitt and Oden are both significantly taller than Smoove, so height might be a factor in speed.
It's the catching-the-pass animation that fucks you over EVERY DAMN TIME on the break. Which is why I quit driving, I just pull up after a double move.
This is true. Players with 25 speed aren't really that noticably slow. And the computer will almost always catch up with you on a fast break, or steal any pass thrown on a fast break.
@Smoove7182954 & others. It's the high difficulty. If you have it on the highest difficulty, the game tries to make the computer players even to give you a challenge so they run faster. When you take the difficulty down you'll see a difference & online games have a difference so it does have effect.
The problem is this, the computer on defense can immediately bolt and hit turbo, while on offense the game makes it so whenever you turbo there's a small delay. All these little 'hidden' stuff to make MY Player in 2k12 harder(along with keeping your base shot off dribble 65 or 70 with NO way to change it) is part of the reason my player in 2k12 is so terrible in comparison.
I'm just thinking maybe speed isn't the only factor that goes into how fast a player moves. Maybe height AND speed points together, not just height. But yes, I still think that 1 speed point should do something more noticeable, considering how much it costs. And really, a 40-50 point difference should give you the upper hand.
whenever you get the ball wide open, the defense magically catches up back to you and you can't even blow by them as soon as you get the ball. and whenever your teammate is posting up, everyone crowds the paint to try and block him and theres never any foul calls. and if guy posting up were to kick it out, they magically recover on defense. this game is epic bs.
if you look at the strides by the centers compared to the pgs, the centers have large strides. that probably is the reason why centers are so fast, but still 2k has to fix that.
nba2k12 has this magnet concept. Like at times with defense or when you dont' have the ball, they like to magically attract you to another player. But I also agree with others about sliders. Same shit with madden when they stiffened up the run game. Adjust it so it doesn't feel like Reggie bush prior to going to Miami when running and being able to blow up between the holes.
I agree my 6'6 SG does the same thing and i maxed outt layup, shot inside and close and shot i traffic bt i still miss layups y did 2k do this 2k11 was much better in gameplay ( shooting and getting to the rim) btw wat is your jumpshot
The reason it's not working is because Speed is based off of that Sprint you do when you pull the trigger when you first get the ball, Not the whole time.
Another problem with NBA 2K is how I pick a 3 PT. Specialist , i'll be WIDE open and shoot with a perfect release and still miss. 2K needs to fix this ASAP.
I think you are right about everthing.It's not possible to enjoy My player this year. However there are very good sliders and rosters in community. I play player lock in Association Hall of Fame and with a trick, i play with my created player as a rookie. Created player has 76 overall rating and i was a starter from the beginning in Chicago Bulls. I increased shooting tendencies for my teammates so they shoot when they are open. They are active in pick and roll etc. I think you should try it.
@MPKFC25 I just think it is ridiculous how perfect the computer plays the passing lanes. I can never throw a cross pass on a fastbreak without the computer stealing it.
I have a problem in 2k12. I've created a guy and he's a point guard and athletic and when i try to shot he starts the animation a bunch of times but doesn't shot. Anyone knowes how to fix it?
There is another side to this the other players take bigger footsteps and it slows u down to dribble the ball and catch it but I don't think 2k would bother to dig that deep
Thats my favorite. Lebron gets the ball and always hit last second 3 pointers... LAST SECOND THREE POINTERS! Every time. This happens for Dwade, Kobe, even some reject players.
it partly contrinuted to the teams fast break and offensive tempo settings, the rockets coach settings must have it on low fast break and offensive tempo, its just stupid
Gotta turn up your hustle and quickness. A lot of the attributes and abilities go hand-in-hand. Makes the game more realistic and better, in my opinion. I understand your frustration though. Concentrates your efforts on making your player a more well-rounded player. Instead of randomly becoming great when you hit the rating of 85.
I noticed on one of your other videos about the saving multiple files to stop your MyPlayer becoming corrupted and stuff and I noticed you had your difficulty on Hall of Fame. Anything on All-Star and above doesn't make the CPU play better, it gives them those advantages. So you get centers out-running you on the fast break. Its ridiculous but that's the reason why I think it's like that. Pretty stupid.
I thought I was the only person who felt this way about 2K12.. Its like attributes are screwed and so is the referee calls from team penalty shots, out of bounds, and other turnovers.. I really hope they step 2K13 up bcuz if not i'm gettn NBA LIVE 13.
I dunno this doesn't really happen to me I can leave other point guards in the dust on an in bounds pass. I usually am stopped before I can get in the paint for a lay up but I haven't increased speed or quickness so maybe a patch fixed it I dunno.
@MrRobertharvey This. The game hax you down in relation to the rest on harder difficulties. On rookie you can out run anyone with like 40 character speed.
I bet smoove use to rage so hard on this game off the mic
Lol rite
This is every 2K since 2k12 lmao
Babbitt probably had the hall of fame chasedown artist badge
Had that badge before badges even existed lmao
This video is still fucking hilarious to this day LMAOO
babbitt the rabbitt super funny dude lol
W
Greatest 2k video of all time 😂😂💯
This and how to beat HOF on 2k11, shi has me cryin
You make a good point about the speed insignificance. I never noticed this b/c my player has a low speed rating. 2K11 was an overall better game, but the hall of fame mode and tweaking to My Player is better in 2K12. The AI is also better in 2K12. When I pass to my teammates in My Player mode, they actually do things on their own and don't rely on me all the time.
hey 12 years later
to be honest on hall of fame they dont make it more competitive they make the game cheat more i played hall of fame the otha night thinkin i would play a high speed competitive game but no i was wrong instead they make a LAST PLACE team outscore me 11-0 in the first these games just aint like they used to be smh
"That's unacceptable."
-Classic Chris Smoove
Speed is affected by difficulty. You play on Hall of Fame I think, so your opponents' stats are increased (including speed).
it’s been 11 years how’s life going bro?
@@OrtonSZN12 years
Wow this videos are still funny till this day incredible 😮
LMFAOOOO BEGINNING HAS ME CRYING
dude your hilarious the way you talk in frustration just made me laugh so much
2018 anyone?
This has been in every 2K since 2012
I just discovered your videos today. I can't stop watching them.
I could be wrong, but it may have somethin to do with your difficulty idk.
DBZ Meez it is superstar difficulty is the realist hall of fame is a such a cheese
You ave hall of fame diffulty
The defense is intense even at speed xD
Babbitt the Rabbitt!
i think it's either of these two things: 1, the speed is only for off-ball movements or 2, the hustle option is really high
I think it was a last min change to make the speed more similar for better game play..less fast breaks and easy drives. Probably started off with good intentions, and got lazy fixing it up before release.
u got it on simulation
Still better than 2k 13 14 and so on.
In 2k12 I have 80 speed and im faster than john wall
It also depends on what difficulty you play on
For that box thingy that appears on the right, its RB for xbox and those letters appearing on top of the players is LB
One of the reasons 2k12 was one of the worst 2ks of all time
No 2k18
@@Shockkings0714agreed 💯 2k18 is dogshit
The problem is that the my player isn't running fast enough. If you see a John Wall or Derrick Rose fastbreak coast-to-coast video, you see them sprinting down the court taking about 2 steps per bounce of the ball. I do agree that some players like Pryzbilla and Oden are running a little too fast. When you see Derrick Rose run with the ball, he is running almost straight and swaying side to side trying to make it pass the defender. Shows that 2k12 needs a realistic NBA fastbreak.
I think today I had my best game :). I got 37 points 9 rebounds 17 assists 16 steals in 48 minutes, and we smoked the other team 115-59. :O
I totally agree and yet there's still much more to be fixed.
Like, whenever the opposing player is open, he WON'T miss, like, never! That's impossible.
The other day, Perkins nailed a 17 footer, simply because he was open. That DOES NOT happen IRL, he would never attempt a 17 footer because he was open.
Shot selection is a major issue aswell, it's like it doesn't matter the player and how low his atributes are, he can nail any shot because he's open.
If you move the left stick left to right, you will move significantly faster because the ball is in front of you & u are running after it hope it helps, thats why pros do it
Babbitt that rhymes with Rabbitt that's why he's a Rabbitt ha ha I love your laugh
One thing I have found is that if I double tap sprint(Sprint, slow down and sprint again, for some reason they speed suddenly works and you leave them in the dust,) I usually beat the guy chasing me on the break, not the other guys though...
Maybe height and stride distance matters too? Taller people can take bigger steps, so they don't have to move their feet as fast. It depends on the definition of "speed" in the game though. If "speed" is simply how fast a person will move at max, then something's wrong. But if it's the rate of foot movement, then height might matter. Babbitt and Oden are both significantly taller than Smoove, so height might be a factor in speed.
There is a way around this. To outrun them keep switching the ball between hands in the fast break. You will leave them in the dust.
It's the catching-the-pass animation that fucks you over EVERY DAMN TIME on the break. Which is why I quit driving, I just pull up after a double move.
Can someone please tell me which is the best shooting form and the best shot base for My Player? It would really help
This is true. Players with 25 speed aren't really that noticably slow. And the computer will almost always catch up with you on a fast break, or steal any pass thrown on a fast break.
@Smoove7182954 & others. It's the high difficulty. If you have it on the highest difficulty, the game tries to make the computer players even to give you a challenge so they run faster. When you take the difficulty down you'll see a difference & online games have a difference so it does have effect.
@Weadfreek Should Shaq be able to Chase down Rondo on the Fastbreak?
Have you tested it out recently? I just got the game like about a week ago, and I don't want to use points on speed if this is the result.
The problem is this, the computer on defense can immediately bolt and hit turbo, while on offense the game makes it so whenever you turbo there's a small delay.
All these little 'hidden' stuff to make MY Player in 2k12 harder(along with keeping your base shot off dribble 65 or 70 with NO way to change it) is part of the reason my player in 2k12 is so terrible in comparison.
When you were saying "That's BS" you sounded like my cousin Brandon haha
the problem is it takes too many steps to cover the court a good point guard is gonna take 5 strides tops to get to the rim
Should i get 2k12 or 2k11? I wanna play with people like Kyrie Irving and other new rookies tho.
Yo it's kind of funny cause when you did it slow motion with Tyrus Thomas you guys were taking the exact same footsteps
They have longer legs so they do larger strides making it quite easy to catch up with you
Yes but the strides should be much slower than his and theyre not, look again
do you play on simulated sliders? cuz i hear that makes everyones physical stats basically the same
the way i do it on my player is go through that teams page under headlines and look up the last game
@Beastman631 Even with a 30-pt differential? That seems a little excessive of a jump.
I'm just thinking maybe speed isn't the only factor that goes into how fast a player moves. Maybe height AND speed points together, not just height. But yes, I still think that 1 speed point should do something more noticeable, considering how much it costs. And really, a 40-50 point difference should give you the upper hand.
whenever you get the ball wide open, the defense magically catches up back to you and you can't even blow by them as soon as you get the ball. and whenever your teammate is posting up, everyone crowds the paint to try and block him and theres never any foul calls. and if guy posting up were to kick it out, they magically recover on defense. this game is epic bs.
if you look at the strides by the centers compared to the pgs, the centers have large strides. that probably is the reason why centers are so fast, but still 2k has to fix that.
nba2k12 has this magnet concept. Like at times with defense or when you dont' have the ball, they like to magically attract you to another player.
But I also agree with others about sliders. Same shit with madden when they stiffened up the run game. Adjust it so it doesn't feel like Reggie bush prior to going to Miami when running and being able to blow up between the holes.
how do you do the push ball up court animation?
I agree my 6'6 SG does the same thing and i maxed outt layup, shot inside and close and shot i traffic bt i still miss layups y did 2k do this 2k11 was much better in gameplay ( shooting and getting to the rim) btw wat is your jumpshot
Smoove how you got that Red headband?
Should I raise my quickness and/or speed in NBA2K12 if this seems to be a large issue? Advice? Anyone?
i am really curious. how the hell did you get j-smoove and chris bosh AND jamal crawford
Depends on the shot release time cause that could be why
The reason it's not working is because Speed is based off of that Sprint you do when you pull the trigger when you first get the ball, Not the whole time.
Another problem with NBA 2K is how I pick a 3 PT. Specialist , i'll be WIDE open and shoot with a perfect release and still miss. 2K needs to fix this ASAP.
I think you are right about everthing.It's not possible to enjoy My player this year. However there are very good sliders and rosters in community. I play player lock in Association Hall of Fame and with a trick, i play with my created player as a rookie. Created player has 76 overall rating and i was a starter from the beginning in Chicago Bulls. I increased shooting tendencies for my teammates so they shoot when they are open. They are active in pick and roll etc. I think you should try it.
@MPKFC25
I just think it is ridiculous how perfect the computer plays the passing lanes. I can never throw a cross pass on a fastbreak without the computer stealing it.
Im wondering if i should buy the game. Is this speed bug fixed in patches ?
@CelticGabry Question? hoe exactly does a game "feel" great???????????
just got 2k12 and its my first nba game can u gimme any tips on how to improve?
on those fast breaks when they catch up to u. Thats where u have to do a spin move
i love how terrible the sp system is, Like around 5:07, "Bad Steal Attempt" turns into "Good Steal"
I have a problem in 2k12. I've created a guy and he's a point guard and athletic and when i try to shot he starts the animation a bunch of times but doesn't shot. Anyone knowes how to fix it?
I hear ya on the open 3's. It seemed the more I raised my 3pt attribute, the worse it got lol
The second i missed 3 A+ Grade, Perfect Release, WIDE OPEN shots.. i sold the game & bought nba 2k10
There is another side to this the other players take bigger footsteps and it slows u down to dribble the ball and catch it but I don't think 2k would bother to dig that deep
What's even more unrealistic is Oden making that play without injuring himself
Thats my favorite. Lebron gets the ball and always hit last second 3 pointers... LAST SECOND THREE POINTERS! Every time. This happens for Dwade, Kobe, even some reject players.
Yeah ikr, its the player speed setting. It's usually under game speed.
it partly contrinuted to the teams fast break and offensive tempo settings, the rockets coach settings must have it on low fast break and offensive tempo, its just stupid
The same happens whit "Steal" atribute -.-
Nice vid bro
This video is old enough for them to have fixed it... Has their been a patch?
It's their legs. Because they're taller they have longer strides and therefore can keep up with you.
Okay so tell me, who is faster Glen Davis or Rajon Rondo
Did they fix or announce they are going to fix this at all?
I really hope 2K watches your videos. They need to hire you as a developer.
hey this is my sisters channel but ur awesome and ur my favorite nba 2k12 person ur the coolest dude ever ur the best nba 2k12 person
Gotta turn up your hustle and quickness. A lot of the attributes and abilities go hand-in-hand. Makes the game more realistic and better, in my opinion. I understand your frustration though. Concentrates your efforts on making your player a more well-rounded player. Instead of randomly becoming great when you hit the rating of 85.
What type of camera you use??
How do you do the throw ball in front of you animation?
um... do u hold RT or R2 (depending PS3 or XBOX)
From what i hear there hustle improves the speed, so if you have a high hustle the speed is increased by it
I noticed on one of your other videos about the saving multiple files to stop your MyPlayer becoming corrupted and stuff and I noticed you had your difficulty on Hall of Fame. Anything on All-Star and above doesn't make the CPU play better, it gives them those advantages. So you get centers out-running you on the fast break. Its ridiculous but that's the reason why I think it's like that. Pretty stupid.
Really like your video...and this is why I don't waste my SP for speed...
I thought I was the only person who felt this way about 2K12.. Its like attributes are screwed and so is the referee calls from team penalty shots, out of bounds, and other turnovers.. I really hope they step 2K13 up bcuz if not i'm gettn NBA LIVE 13.
I dunno this doesn't really happen to me I can leave other point guards in the dust on an in bounds pass. I usually am stopped before I can get in the paint for a lay up but I haven't increased speed or quickness so maybe a patch fixed it I dunno.
It's about speed and quickness. Get them both up and it's deadly.
There might be a setting that allows you to increase the difference in speed ratings to where higher speed ratings are actually faster.
@MrRobertharvey This. The game hax you down in relation to the rest on harder difficulties. On rookie you can out run anyone with like 40 character speed.
Dude, Greg Oden running a full court without getting injured!
what difficulty were you playing at. smoove
This is one of the problem of this kind of games , your right .
You should present this to 2kSports
@gunot5827 Where'd you find that? Hit me up with it.
What is your quickness?