Great review! Our 12V 100Ah mini has been upgraded recently. The old version has a BMS without low temperature protection, and the new version has a smart BMS with low temperature protection. If you buy it after June 14, you will receive the new version with low temperature protection, because the old version of the battery was sold out on June 13. The new version has the same battery cells and internal structure as the old version, we just upgraded the BMS. When Mr. Off-Grid has time, maybe we can plan to test the low temperature project again.😃
Does your website clearly state that the older versions, which look 100% identical, do not have LTCP? Is that indicated, either way, on the battery case? If that isn't indicated on the case, why not? If you're not going to put "LTCP" on the batteries with a BMS which includes that feature, how could a consumer know whether or not to buy your product, since you could just as easily switch back to the slightly cheaper BMS?
Is there a difference in the run time of your 100ah mini vs the 100ah standard size. Id like to get a mini but prefer as much power/run time for my trolling motor as possible. Thanks.
@@THEOFFGRIDMOUNTAINHOMESTEAD That’s true, but it’s installed and advertised as such. It didn’t work. Not too many people are gonna tear down a new battery to check this function. It would be ok for me in MS, but not someone in Montana. Have a good evening.
Exactly! That’s why it failed the test! This is only reason I suggested. For someone with a semi conditioned battery area it’s really cheap energy storage. This battery has been as low as $149 in the last few months! That’s cheap for (4) 105Ah cells shipped to your door! I’m wondering if there’s going to be a big price war on these batteries the closer we get to tariffs increase. Maybe even better prices are coming?
Nice battery and awesome size. To bad the low temperature sensor didn't shut it off. It makes you wonder if it is a bad sensor or bms programming. Regardless it didn't work and that is sad. In my line of work I see bad sensors all the time. It always makes me wonder why they can't build a better sensor. Enjoyed the video and keep them coming.
Sensor seemed to function properly, triggering high temp cutoff quickly. As I mentioned to another viewer it could be as simple as a programming issue or the board doesn’t even have the option available! Hard to find cut sheets on the custom contract boards! Regardless still good capacity for the price!
Does it have more than one temp sensor? I am pretty sure you said there was one for high temp, if they look the same, they might do both high and low temp. I know some of them are designed that more than one sensor has to read below 32 to shut off. I would guess it does not. But could be one of those types. But always glad for an honest review.
Unfortunately there is no other senor! If you pause and look at the BMS you’ll see the pin out for the single 10K NTC thermistor! Specs are hard to find on some of these custom contracted boards and could be as simple as not programming the option in to it not even being offered for the particular board build and chipset.
Is there another temp sensor under the BMS, can see 2 black wires near the balance lead maybe that's the low temp sensor? If you still have the battery would be good to know if that is it
6:03 One single NTC sensor connection plainly visible on BMS. Wrong or improper configuration on the BMS is why it doesn’t work. Feel free to see some of the other examples I have with proper low temp cutouts. ua-cam.com/video/mc6W9Wz5mmI/v-deo.htmlsi=NiDfpcG53sIAZCLd this is how a battery is supposed to work. Gold standard in budget batteries.
You should be good in FL! (Can be used in climate controlled environments anywhere) High temp is very important for safety! This is why I’m always checking the BMS for high temp protection as well!
i just picked up 4 of these for $133 each on prime day. Do you know of any off the shelf container that 4 of these would fit into nicely to make a 48v battery?
Wow looks like they are actually matching the cells for each battery. Those capacity numbers were about as close enough together as you're going to see in ANY battery no matter the price. All 105.7Ah unless the hidden one wasn't like the others...which I doubt if 3 of them were within 88mAh of each other. The welding of the bus bars explains why another UA-camr was abe to pull 300+ amps out of this thing. These EVE cells are rated for 2C IIRC but with huge bus bars like that and massive welds...voltage drop will be minimal.
The battery is back to $165 rn btw. I picked up a couple if them and they seem great. Only problem is on the manual it says the battery is 100% charged at 13.5v. Shouldn’t the voltage get to 14.4%?
LiFePO4 charges to 14.2-14.6 depending on your charge preference/cell voltage target. After coming off the charger within an hour or so, the voltage will usually settle to 13.5-13.6 and after 24 hours some will settle to 13.4-13.5. You can’t go off voltage like lead acid. I have some links to an affordable energy meter in the description that tracks the energy in/out of battery. Or you can use a larger 500A shunt and program it to coulomb count for you. Hope this helps!
Wir haben 2024 am 23. Februar eine Lithium 20/a BMS über AMAZON gekauft, nun ist die Batterie Kaputt und lässt sich nicht mehr laden. Amazon lehnt eine Reklamation ab. Was soll ich ich tun?
Have you tried a charger with 0V charging capability? Charger should indicate BMS wake up feature. I’m assuming you have no voltage at the terminals? Hope this helps
Good capacity for such a low price! If you can keep batteries in an insulated power shed or garage etc you’d be fine way further north! On an RV or marine application the lack of low temp protection is a bigger concern.
You’re most welcome! I try my best to show all aspects, be it positive or negative of the batteries during the reviews. Want everyone to find best value in your potential purchase. Bluetooth batteries are nice, but the reliable connection range is only about 10ft in real world conditions.
Yes the connection range with things like this is rarely good. I had a $75 solar controller with Bluetooth. It was the same. Still better than using the buttons on the controller though. The cell level information is what I’m interested in for battery health. So standing right above the battery will be fine with me. The Bluetooth I’m unimpressed with is my 40v ryobi power station. It is only about 20 feet. Not impressive for a $700 device. But I am putting up with the Ryobi downfalls because if it dies during a power outage I can walk into Home Depot and walk out with a new unit.
At time of posting the battery was $249.99 minus 5% coupon minus 29% summer sale promotion coupon. The summer sale promotion coupon expired 12:00AM 6/27/24. Please continue to check the listing Cyclenbatt runs promotion sales regularly. Just 3 weeks ago this battery had a sale and could be obtained for $149.99. Also the way amazon works if a product is low on stock or about to sell out vendors will remove coupons to slow down sales. Amazon penalizes vendors and de-ranks their products if they sell out! Thanks for watching and commenting!
All the manufacturers raised their prices today. They’re all getting ready for big sales on Prime Day. Slowing sales so they have inventory for the event!
I have come to respect your reviews. Seems to me you're the most trustworthy UA-camr testing these batteries. Thank you.
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
I can always count on you to deliver honest reviews, thank you❤for what you do!
I appreciate that!
Thanks for the battery tear down always enjoy your videos 😊
Glad you like them! Appreciate you!
Love seeing people tear into them and show us how its made. nice video
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed! 👍
Great review! Our 12V 100Ah mini has been upgraded recently. The old version has a BMS without low temperature protection, and the new version has a smart BMS with low temperature protection. If you buy it after June 14, you will receive the new version with low temperature protection, because the old version of the battery was sold out on June 13.
The new version has the same battery cells and internal structure as the old version, we just upgraded the BMS. When Mr. Off-Grid has time, maybe we can plan to test the low temperature project again.😃
Does your website clearly state that the older versions, which look 100% identical, do not have LTCP? Is that indicated, either way, on the battery case? If that isn't indicated on the case, why not? If you're not going to put "LTCP" on the batteries with a BMS which includes that feature, how could a consumer know whether or not to buy your product, since you could just as easily switch back to the slightly cheaper BMS?
You said it has smart bms, does it mean there is an app and you can see the stats?
Is there a difference in the run time of your 100ah mini vs the 100ah standard size. Id like to get a mini but prefer as much power/run time for my trolling motor as possible. Thanks.
@@richardberrios826 since the capacity is the same they will have equal run time.
My Cyclenbatt BMS died in 20 days
Thanks for the review. Was about to order this; damn shame it didn’t work as advertised.
Have a good one.
Could still be a viable option if not needing low temp protection. Everything else works good. Good capacity for the price!
@@THEOFFGRIDMOUNTAINHOMESTEAD That’s true, but it’s installed and advertised as such. It didn’t work. Not too many people are gonna tear down a new battery to check this function. It would be ok for me in MS, but not someone in Montana. Have a good evening.
Exactly! That’s why it failed the test!
This is only reason I suggested. For someone with a semi conditioned battery area it’s really cheap energy storage. This battery has been as low as $149 in the last few months! That’s cheap for (4) 105Ah cells shipped to your door! I’m wondering if there’s going to be a big price war on these batteries the closer we get to tariffs increase. Maybe even better prices are coming?
Good Afternoon ! Nice little battery. TAKE CARE..
Thanks! Always appreciate you stopping by!
@@THEOFFGRIDMOUNTAINHOMESTEAD YOU BET ! Too bad the cold shut down didn't work. TAKE CARE..
Nice battery and awesome size. To bad the low temperature sensor didn't shut it off. It makes you wonder if it is a bad sensor or bms programming. Regardless it didn't work and that is sad. In my line of work I see bad sensors all the time. It always makes me wonder why they can't build a better sensor. Enjoyed the video and keep them coming.
Sensor seemed to function properly, triggering high temp cutoff quickly. As I mentioned to another viewer it could be as simple as a programming issue or the board doesn’t even have the option available! Hard to find cut sheets on the custom contract boards! Regardless still good capacity for the price!
You deserve a like and subscribe for a great review. I just ordered 2 for the price of 133.98 USD each from Amazon
Appreciate that! Glad you enjoyed! Wow I didn’t realize they had a price cut! That’s good news and a great deal!
Thank you for the test results! Prayers for Carolina Fort Worth 🙏
Later ✌️
You’re most welcome! Take care! 👍
Does it have more than one temp sensor? I am pretty sure you said there was one for high temp, if they look the same, they might do both high and low temp. I know some of them are designed that more than one sensor has to read below 32 to shut off. I would guess it does not. But could be one of those types. But always glad for an honest review.
Unfortunately there is no other senor! If you pause and look at the BMS you’ll see the pin out for the single 10K NTC thermistor! Specs are hard to find on some of these custom contracted boards and could be as simple as not programming the option in to it not even being offered for the particular board build and chipset.
This one seems amazing, cell-quality wise.
Definitely has good cells and a strong BMS. Just lacking proper LTC, but otherwise good to go!
Is there another temp sensor under the BMS, can see 2 black wires near the balance lead maybe that's the low temp sensor? If you still have the battery would be good to know if that is it
6:03 One single NTC sensor connection plainly visible on BMS.
Wrong or improper configuration on the BMS is why it doesn’t work. Feel free to see some of the other examples I have with proper low temp cutouts. ua-cam.com/video/mc6W9Wz5mmI/v-deo.htmlsi=NiDfpcG53sIAZCLd this is how a battery is supposed to work. Gold standard in budget batteries.
Im in Fl, i dont think i need low temp protection, I do however need the high temp!
You should be good in FL! (Can be used in climate controlled environments anywhere) High temp is very important for safety! This is why I’m always checking the BMS for high temp protection as well!
Thank you for the review. Do you know what their warranty is?
Glad you enjoyed the review! Cyclenbatt claims they have a 5 year warranty! Hope this helps!
7/1/24... Just bought from Amazon at $162. Going to be my trolling battery and hook up a few auxiliary lights.
Awesome! Good capacity with the CyclenBatt especially considering the low price point! Be safe out there!
i just picked up 4 of these for $133 each on prime day. Do you know of any off the shelf container that 4 of these would fit into nicely to make a 48v battery?
Not commercially made that I’m aware of. Maybe a Rubbermaid tote or similar? Large pelican case? Mine are on a simple 2x4 and plywood shelf!
Wow looks like they are actually matching the cells for each battery. Those capacity numbers were about as close enough together as you're going to see in ANY battery no matter the price. All 105.7Ah unless the hidden one wasn't like the others...which I doubt if 3 of them were within 88mAh of each other.
The welding of the bus bars explains why another UA-camr was abe to pull 300+ amps out of this thing. These EVE cells are rated for 2C IIRC but with huge bus bars like that and massive welds...voltage drop will be minimal.
I was surprised to see how well it was made! Very nice cell pack in this one!
The battery is back to $165 rn btw. I picked up a couple if them and they seem great. Only problem is on the manual it says the battery is 100% charged at 13.5v. Shouldn’t the voltage get to 14.4%?
14.4 volts*
LiFePO4 charges to 14.2-14.6 depending on your charge preference/cell voltage target.
After coming off the charger within an hour or so, the voltage will usually settle to 13.5-13.6 and after 24 hours some will settle to 13.4-13.5. You can’t go off voltage like lead acid. I have some links to an affordable energy meter in the description that tracks the energy in/out of battery. Or you can use a larger 500A shunt and program it to coulomb count for you.
Hope this helps!
thanks for the review!
You’re most welcome! Thanks for watching and commenting! 👍
Wir haben 2024 am 23. Februar eine Lithium 20/a BMS über AMAZON gekauft, nun ist die Batterie Kaputt
und lässt sich nicht mehr laden.
Amazon lehnt eine Reklamation ab.
Was soll ich ich tun?
Have you tried a charger with 0V charging capability? Charger should indicate BMS wake up feature. I’m assuming you have no voltage at the terminals? Hope this helps
I live in south texas, this might work for me
Good capacity for such a low price!
If you can keep batteries in an insulated power shed or garage etc you’d be fine way further north! On an RV or marine application the lack of low temp protection is a bigger concern.
Cold shutdown has now been addressed.
Has it ?
@THEOFFGRIDMOUNTAINHOMESTEAD The new ones have been updated and there are tests on YT showing it works.
Cool! Thanks for the info 👍
Thanks for saving me from this battery. There are plenty at this price. I debating spending extra for Bluetooth
You’re most welcome! I try my best to show all aspects, be it positive or negative of the batteries during the reviews. Want everyone to find best value in your potential purchase. Bluetooth batteries are nice, but the reliable connection range is only about 10ft in real world conditions.
Yes the connection range with things like this is rarely good. I had a $75 solar controller with Bluetooth. It was the same. Still better than using the buttons on the controller though.
The cell level information is what I’m interested in for battery health. So standing right above the battery will be fine with me.
The Bluetooth I’m unimpressed with is my 40v ryobi power station. It is only about 20 feet. Not impressive for a $700 device. But I am putting up with the Ryobi downfalls because if it dies during a power outage I can walk into Home Depot and walk out with a new unit.
Thanks for the response. I have subscribed.
I don’t know where you bought it for $164 but it’s showing it’s for sale for 249 on Amazon
At time of posting the battery was $249.99 minus 5% coupon minus 29% summer sale promotion coupon. The summer sale promotion coupon expired 12:00AM 6/27/24. Please continue to check the listing Cyclenbatt runs promotion sales regularly. Just 3 weeks ago this battery had a sale and could be obtained for $149.99. Also the way amazon works if a product is low on stock or about to sell out vendors will remove coupons to slow down sales. Amazon penalizes vendors and de-ranks their products if they sell out! Thanks for watching and commenting!
$249.99 now 😒
All the manufacturers raised their prices today. They’re all getting ready for big sales on Prime Day. Slowing sales so they have inventory for the event!
Just saw they put the 29% coupon back since this AM plus the 10%. This is Prime Member price showing on my Amazon App.
Who is the supplier in India? Contact number please
Amazon is the best place for North American markets.
Mine quit working in 20 days, now jumping through hoops to get refund
What happened to the battery? Did it just stop producing voltage? Did you try a charger with a BMS wake-up function?