The most predictable thing known to man continues to delay baseball
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Have we learned nothing from Icarus? Must we continue to taunt our provider of life? She has been good to us for so long yet we still have fools walking among us who believe they know better than this beautiful, flaming orb. And are they the ones who actually suffer for their hubris? No. It's, as always, the baseball players.
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‘I would like a take on the sun’
‘Pretty Good’
Clara knows your audience
I'm glad someone else noticed
*cue smooth jazz*
2:34 this actually happened at a diamondbacks game around 6-7 years ago. There was a leak in the roof during a monsoon and only the pitchers mound was getting rained on.
in arizona?
@@Matt-ge9cf yes
😂 poor dude
@@Matt-ge9cf spot the man who has never lived in the southwest.
In Japan, the Seibu Lions' home stadium is an amphitheater with a dome roof built decades after(1997?) the original playing field was opened. While the roof construction was being done, similar happening occurred during the rain - pitcher's mound wasn't covered by the roof yet so the mound and the pitcher was getting drenched while the rest of the field was dry.
I was an intern with the Pittsfield Suns for a little bit and whenever we had a sun delay, the interns would be sent on the field to entertain the crowd for 30-45 min. We would do stupid things like have intern contests, like who could balance a broom on their finger the longest. The crowd always really enjoyed them
I played HS baseball at that park. What a horrible sun glare
I totally expect the next video to be Clara batting facing the sun.
Beef history: Clara vs the Sun
Yes please
I read that as “battling” and like my misread better, her just running at the sun with a sword or something
So I imagined the sun pitching a 98mph fastball to Clara for her insolence
@@thehoodedteddy1335 that's cooler
Baseball games at Rice University's Reckling Park here in Houston have a magical, very college basebally thing: Glare delays. There's a giant Hilton that turns into a solar cannon when there's no cloud cover.
That is insane lmao
I’m staying right next door to that Hilton in Houston now!
That reminds me of the big field of mirrors scientists constructed to emulate the conditions of the sun, a solar furnace whose focal point reaches like six thousand degrees or something absurd. Glad we built one of those pointed at a stadium full of people.
Losing it over “solar cannon.” Just dying of laughter.
Go owls! - WRC’18
On Aug 21, 2017, 4 minor league games were in the path of a total solar eclipse, so those games had "eclipse delays".
Makes sense. When playing in a solar eclipse, players tend to get incinerated.
The umpire deciding everyone should take a break and watch the sunset together is my new favorite thing about baseball.
In the 1960’s Dodgers outfielder Willie Davis once missed a fly ball in the outfield and when he got back to the dugout told his teammates, “The sun was in my eyes.”
One of his coaches Leo Durocher replies back to him, “Sure, and last night you said the same thing about the moon!”
@@khamjaninja. The batter would be staring right into the sun for the almost the entirety of the at bat, which could last several minutes. That’d cause serious eye injury in no time at all. Their solution to fielders looking towards the sun was really quite simple, sunglasses. A fielder spends far less time looking directly at the sun than the batter would, and they also can use sunglasses to help block it out. The rule says that the batter’s line of sight should be east northeast, but in practice basically all of the major league ballparks have it facing heavily north
@@brianaiitken Sunglasses would be good if ballplayers didn't wear them on top of the bill of their cap.
@@big8dog887 that’s such a baseball fan thing to care about
@@khamjaninja. Dodger Stadium was built before this rule and faces north, which seems to me to fix the problem for both sides.
Surprised there was no mention of the recent college game where someone hit a walkoff home run, rounded the bases, the whole team celebrated, and then they had to take the home run away because the 1st base umpire called time before the pitch because he couldn't see. And then they lost.
What curse did someone have put on them for smth of that caliber of random bs have to happen?
As a soccer fan, I’m always fascinated when I see a goalkeeper wearing a hat to block out the sun (I.e. Dean Henderson) It seems like such an unnatural addition to the uniform
I stopped playing soccer as a kid because I was told I couldn’t wear a hat
@Paul Calixte probably not, it was suburban massachusetts in the 90s
Bonus for when it's a hat someone in the stands gave the goalkeeper.
A lot of fans over here are very superstitious about keepers who wear hats. A real keeper deflects the sun with his hand while maintaining cat like reflexes and alertness!!
Chris Kirkland did it first hun
At AT&T Stadium in Arlington, TX, the stadium faces east and west and has giant clear windows behind each end zone. This obviously creates a problem during 3pm kickoffs as the setting sun blinds whichever team is driving towards the west. This has resulted in numerous dropped passes and other mishaps. One would think some simple blinds could be put up to alleviate the effects of the sun. Here's the deal-Jerry Jones has them, but chooses not to use them because he likes the way the sun hits the field. It's absolutely one of the most asinine things in sports.
I always was told they would put the blinds where the sun was in the opponent's eyes 😂
for a moment I expected this video to be about how rob manfraud's crusade against baseball had gotten too predictable...
That’s what I first read too!
0:07 new jon bois vid on the sun when
“The Sun is massive, but not compared to all other Suns. Here’s a chart of all the stars in the universe. And this is the Sun. The Sun is so large, it holds around 99.8% of all the stuff in the Solar System. Yep. All the planets, all the asteroids, all the meteors. Just fractions of a fraction as large as the Sun.”
The field in Weymouth Massachusetts has the same problem. We had a 45 minute sun delay when we played Weymouth. The problem is this stadium was build a few years ago so they just completely ignored the sun.
Clara is hilarious lmao. "...I'm not tryna make any enemies"
and yet she made herself a VERY powerful one. “but… begrudgingly” lololol
This deserves a like purely for the "southpaw" etymology lesson. Thank you.
Actually, the Astrodome was designed to have clear roof panels to allow the grass to grow. Unfortunately, this created a glare problem which made it extremely difficult for outfielders to track fly balls. That’s why the roof was painted over, then the grass died. The team dealt with this by painting the dirt green until Astroturf was installed.
That sounds exactly like what Clara said… not sure it needs an “actually”
@@lineetta hey I left my stack of newspapers at your front lawn the other day and didn't pick it up yesterday. I was wondering if I can come back tmmrw to collect it. I need to make strips out of it for a project for next quarter's example
@@lineetta lmaoooo you collect newspapers dude 😆💀
Before they put lights in stadiums they also had to call games due to darkness, this led to an 8 game world series
The outdoor NHL games have been delayed because of the glare of the Sun on the ice. The ice conditions itself usually weren't a problem until Lake Tahoe. Because Lake Tahoe is high up in elevation, there's less air for the Sun to go through to heat up the ice. The only other times outdoor games that were that high up were a couple of Stadium Series games that were in Denver and Colorado Springs, and they were both at night.
The Lake Tahoe games both were intended to take place in the middle of the day for the gorgeous pictures (which is why they powered through the 1st period of the first game), but then they decided to postpone the rest of that game to 9 hours later, and then made the other game start later, when the Sun is not directly up in the sky.
This is what I thought the video was going to be about when they teased it
The Denver game had a delay because the fake snow they laid on the outfield was blowing onto the ice lol
I live in the UK and I find it amazing how many phrases come from baseball that even we use here
I too am from the UK and find it amazing that any sporting event could be delayed by the sun.
I'm like what, that sorta bright glowing spot hidden by approximately fifty miles of dark grey clouds is causing you trouble? Get outta here =P
The opening to this video makes me appreciate Clara's sense of humor so much more than i already did
She's easily the funniest member of their cast
@@thelastmanonearth2631 she's definitely the wittiest of the bunch, even with her scripted videos.
Clara is a star.
@@adamkane4217 - oh, thank God. I thought it was just me. I'm glad everyone else appreciates the high caliber she's always bringing!
6:15 Clara really went "I'm just built different" regarding the sun
My hometown had a little league park that was exactly like this, and sun delays were a frequent thing. Except for that one time when the ump must've had a dinner date or something, because he made us play-on in the bottom of the last inning when the sun was directly behind the pitcher's shoulder and I struck out looking because I couldn't see sh!t..... I still get nightmares of that at bat.
Really liked seeing the Secret Base personalities shine here. Keep up the great content!
Great video, haha. Loved the illustrations!
Especially the mascot taunting the sun. :D
Can we please meme "Now that I've made the claim, it sounds wrong."
Thanks! Don't even like baseball but love all your content! Keep up the good work!
this is one of the few cases where the umpire is admitting they can't actually see the ball
About 10 years ago, I attended a Rice University baseball game in Houston. Rice has a modern stadium, but there was a sun delay because of glare from nearby buildings in the Texas Medical Center.
The sun delaying games in hockey really is down to the sun itself more so than the ambient temperatures. Competitive outdoor rinks used by the NHL (and other high level leagues such as NCAA) use under ice cooling that aims to keep the temps at around 20°F regardless of ambient temperature. The system will work with ambient temps up into the low 70’s provided that there’s no direct sunlight which is why the NHL has been doing games in outdoor stadiums all over the country and not just the northern climates (including California, Texas, and soon in Florida).
The postponed game in Lake Tahoe had ambient temps around 33-34°F, but for the first time in over a decade they also had a strong direct sunlight on the ice. Most of the ice surface was totally fine. The goalie crease and the blue lines however absorbed and radiated all the suns energy and turned those specific sections of ice to puddles while the surrounding ice was still solid (albeit a bit soft).
As someone who lived in pittsfield for a while, it truly is a gross city.
Why? Google images didn’t show much.
@@Erm-rn2by it’s not well maintained, big drug problem, overall one of those cities you would drive through and be like ‘oh this place exists’ and not ever miss anything if you didn’t get out your car. well except that ball field. lmao
I grew up a few towns over- it is truly disgusting
Towns named for holes in the ground tend to have a starting expectation
I spent a few summers in the Berkshires working at a summer camp. Spent too much money at the Berkshire Mall. Lots of beautiful spots around Pittsfield but yeah...Pittsfield itself is a rough town.
WHY NOT FACE THE BATTER NORTH OR SOUTH. I FEEL LIKE A CRAZY PERSON
Hey now that’s dangerous thinking, you best stick to your work.
Why do that when you can build a whole roof over the park
Sun delay: you learn a new thing every day.
Thanks for getting around to the whole Southpaw thing. Words influenced by stadium design. Who knew? Like, oh, I dunno... bullpen? They stored the mascot (large male-type cow) in there between games...?
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Please I wanna see Seth pitch to Clara with the sun in her eyes
Shout out to everyone who has actually been to Pittsfield
My grandparents live in the Berkshires, so I have been to a couple of games. It’s very interesting for the sun delay to happen, I’ve gotten a couple of baseballs by just asking.
Who else randomly came across Secret base channel an now can't stop watching there videos on these former Sports beefs an dilemmas
Yeah that's how it's been for me for like 2 or 3 years now
So glad I randomly stumbled on this channel back then lol
Came from jon bois long before it was called secret base
Re: the "driving up a hill at sunset"
In Pittsburgh, a major east/west thoroughfare is the parkway which brings you from all points west into the city.
Right before the last decline into the tunnels into the city, you rise up a hill and at the top of said hill is a sadistically designed building with yellow/orange glass panels 100% covering the outside faces. During mid-summer, the sun setting lines up DIRECTLY with the face you see coming up that hill and the reflection is like a laser burning your retina and illuminating your entire windscreen and it's been the cause of many, MANY accidents and resultant traffic jams in Pittsburgh.
It's now the WDVE building and everyone on the west side of the city hates it for a couple weeks in the summer.
I remember (though it’s not related) when they added the gravel-filled runaway truck ramp just before the entrance to the Ft Pitt Tubes.
Can you do a video on Dock Ellis, the man who pitched a no-hitter while high on LSD?
They did, a long time ago
Jon has to make an episode of Pretty Good on the sun now
5:40 Jerryworld has this problem late in thr NFL season where the windows REFRACT the sunlight into an absolutely VISCOUS ray of blinding light across the field.
The sun reflecting off the glass luxury boxes at Levi Stadium cooks fans in the stands on the opposite side, too.
6:30 Clara is built different she can face the sun no problem
I love how MLB is really leaning hard into the whole gambling on baseball thing while still piously keeping Rose out of the HOF.
Players & managers are still not allowed to gamble
So because the league wants fans to bet on games they are hypocrites for not allowing players, coaches, and managers to bet on games? Sorry, but that dog won't hunt.
@@mjwbulich Uh because they can then throw games or do something to cover the point spread
Rose agreed to his ban. Get over it
It’s all right. Manfred will reverse the ban once the lockout is over to save face.
Too much sun has also led to cricket matches in the UK being delayed which is particularly ironic as 1) it rains a lot here and 2) the most unbearably annoying thing about cricket is how often it gets postponed by bad light. You really do need the most perfect Goldilocks-esque conditions for the game to be played…
I remember when SportsCenter did a study on outfielders and their eye colors. Light eyed people had a higher drop fly ball percentage
1:15 And now, for my first laugh out loud of the day...
The Suns mascots should be Little Orphan Annie so everyone knows the Sun will come out tomorrow. Also the original Annie had no pupils just like the players looking into the Sun.
@Michael Sullivan Well, just call them the Heirs instead.
2:35 I have been in this situation as a softball player. I was on third base when about half the field got rained on in one of those tiny pockets of bad weather. We must have just been on the end of it.
There is a Ballpark near me located in Brantford ON that also faces west, games there sometimes won't start till around 8:30
Wasn't there a delay like this in the ALCS in 2021? I thought I read somewhere that it happened recently.
Also, the Astrodome did have this issue. In some ways, it was built as like a Greenhouse for plants, but for the grassy field. This unfortunately led to players not seeing the ball and they had to paint the roof to prevent that only to have the grass die and then they used Astroturf, which has a complicated history.
I believe this is where the term Astroturf for artificial turf came from. The term was popularized due to the high profile of its use in the Astrodome.
After the first NHL Heritage Classic in 2003, the NHL may have become a bit overconfident when it came to predicting the weather for its outdoor games. That 2003 game (held in Edmonton) was "blessed" with frigid temperatures which started just below 0°F (-18°C) and dropped to -22°F (-30°C) by the end of the game. There was no risk of melting ice.
They had the opposite problem in 2003. They were afraid that the ice would crack from being too cold, but it held up
Next episode of Pretty Good: Jon Bois talks about The Sun for an hour.
Raley Field in Sacramento has the WORST sunset glare off the downtown buildings. The entire stadium gets blinded on a nightly basis
Not gonna lie, when I first read the title I thought it said the sun continues to delay basketball games. I was super interested to see where they were going with that.
This video is hilarious and filled with comedic gems, lol.
Reading the title I thought the answer would be owner's greed.
Pittsfield Suns? Is that who we are talking about? I’ve been to that stadium and the Sun Delay is actually so interesting.
At my local sand volleyball court which faces east-west rather than north-south, when the sun is above the western horizon with 20-30 minutes to set, we call it "The Witching Hour." Fortunately, a volleyball is softer than a baseball when we get spiked in the sunglasses by one.
tell that to my grade 9 face having taking a wicked deflection off a serve in gym class.
The sun: Pretty Good. The next 6-part Jon Bois documentary.
I feel like I have to quote Gabe from The Office "Shut up about the sun, SHUT UP ABOUT THE SUN!".
I had this happen to me at a high school game. I had to ask the ump to stop the game because the pitcher's arm went right through the sun. Couldnt see the ball at all, no idea how the ump was calling balls and strikes, or how the catcher was catching. 5 minutes later the sun had moved enough that it wasnt an issue anymore.
Clara Morris is rapidly becoming one of my favorites on this channel.
"I need a take on the sun"
"Its....pretty good"
tyson whiting knocking it out of the park (as they say) with the Batseth sonar animation. incredible work
And yet the Sun is less disruptive to baseball than Manfred.
3:40 “not even hot” 🤣
The sun: pretty good
*smooth, LOUD, jazz plays*
I’m shocked and amazed that my Vermont lake monsters made this video, it seems I don’t give your researching enough credit
4:24 that Lake Tahoe game was interesting because they played the first period, got all the good pictures they wanted, then had to wait until night to finish the game. Normally doesn’t happen with outdoor NHL games (the most recent winter classic was in MIN, and it was in the -20F range)
Also should mention that the ice melting had more to do with the altitude than it did with normal sunlight
At&t stadium has the same issue. There's so many pictures showing how bad it gets when the sun is directly in line with the windows
Beef History: Clara vs The Sun
Make it happen
I was at Wahconah Park in 2006 for a Pittsfield Dukes - North Adams Steeplecats game, and we got a sun delay. There was no entertainment, though. Just a whole bunch of people sitting around for 25 minutes, thinking, you've gotta be kidding me.
Winthrop University has this problem as well. They have a giant batter's eye in center field to minimize issues, but sometimes they still have glare from the press box that affects the pitcher facing east. And while the batter facing east usually isn't too much of an issue for the pitcher if the press box is high enough, most ballparks don't face due east either for this reason. Most MLB parks face northeast, a lot of stadiums near me face south which can be bad for heat related reasons.
I command an army of tigers, defeat the sun tonight -Jonathan Young, 2021
East/West orientation is important in the construction of new sports stadiums.
Jerry Jones: Hold my yacht.
At Fireman’s Park in Cottage Grove, WI, the field faces west-northwest, basically the same angle as the Pittsfield field. We had an evening game there last June, and I just racked up strikeouts, it’s a pitchers paradise at that park. One of the weirdest parks in the area.
The batter faces East across the lower outfield stands, the pitcher faces west, right into the main grandstand which acts as a sunshade in and of itself.
I live near Wahconah Park and when you began this video I knew you were gonna mention it lol
Please do a rewinder on big papi’s game tying grand slam of Joaquin Benoit in the 2013 playoffs. There’s definitely a story to be told there
As a Pittsfield native I agree that it’s not that bad
Clara saying she could see through the sun was the most Jon Bois thing I have ever heard
She definitely has a lot of Bois energy
Secret Base : posts video
Gabe : *SHUT UP ABOUT THE SUN*
I'm an umpire and one particular field I do games at during the late summer when the sun sets i have to delay the game for about 15 mins because I nor the catcher or batter can see the ball because of the sun.
At this year's Winter Classic they actually had to HEAT the ice. They could have used some sun.
Please have the whole team at Secret Base play a game of baseball at Wahcona Park while the sun is setting. You can only play while the sun is setting.
This kind of reminds me of the Dallas Cowboys Stadium, which was build from east to west and has a huge window... that just caused a Dallas Defender to drop an interception during this year's Wildcard Game, because he was blinded by the sun....
...the South paw origin. This is why I watch these videos, the content is always top shelf. Thanks for the work folks!!
A sun delay, normally around the 3rd inning, but rivals come together to watch a beautiful sunset. Tell your date you planned it for her
I had to catch a game during sunset directly at the pitchers head. Couldn't see anything. We had to tell the pitcher to aim center of mass because otherwise the ball will get by lol.
This is a weird place to do it but I have to get this into the universe. My dream is to have a Rewind on the Ministry of Darkness angle if only to hear "Welcome... to a moment in history. IT WAS ME AUSTIN, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, AUSTIN".
The sun at cowboys stadium always seems like a nuisance as well.
One of my favorite Rodgers games...that game winning drive while battling the Boys and the glare...then something happened in Minny the week after, can't remember what.
If the Sun is Pretty Good, is all of Earth Dorktown?
Gonna throw a theory out here about why the pitchers don't get any support. Basically, there are 2 things that play into it, first if there are people watching, the seating is probably behind home base for the most part. Second, even at small parks, there can be trees, buildings, etc in home bases general direction, whereas the field basically has to be clear for several hundred feet. (can't really have trees in the middle of the outfield right?) Thanks to this I feel the mentality was probably roughly "well someone has to get the short end of the stick, and pitchers are more likely to have something stopping them from having the sun blasting their face, so its probably ok, and the people who paid to watch probably shouldn't have to deal with it as they are the client."
Tennis has some of the worst sun issues. If you're trying to serve, a lot of times the sun is directly above you, so you can't see the ball on your toss (your swinging blind at the ball you just tossed).
Perfect date idea, baseball game & watching the sunset
I wouldn't be affected by that glare. i'd strike out either way
Lol the Suns have the actual sun as their mascot
Waconah park is beautiful! I was a ball boy for the suns for a few games when I was 12 or so, lots of fun
Ive seen all of these love this series keep it up
This actually happened to us once in a game at North Greenville University’s field
I've played softball on a field where the sun can be a huge issue for the batter at certain times. You'll see more swings and misses in a few innings there then you will for the entire season at other fields