rust runs on EVERYTHING (no operating system, just Rust)

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  • Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
  • The world of embedded programming is AMAZING. The Raspberry Pi is one of the best platforms to break into embedded development. In this video, we'll program our Raspberry Pi WITHOUT the Linux Kernel. We'll use the Rust build chain to create a custom kernel image that we can use to blink our LED on and off.
    You can take this tutorial, create the code for yourself and use it to develop something more advanced! You can use the UART bus, the SPI bus, or maybe even start to write your own operating system.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:36 Board Setup
    0:41 Lets Code!
    1:30 ARMv7 Target
    2:13 no_std
    3:37 Don't Panic!
    4:30 start location
    5:25 linker script
    8:15 elf2bin
    9:30 TO THE DATASHEET!
    13:25 GPIO Code
    16:50 Firmware Files
    17:57 Outro
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  • @LowLevelLearning
    @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +40

    wanna get good at programming? check out lowlevel.academy and use code THREADS20 for 20% off lifetime access. or dont. im not a cop

    • @SportSync_official
      @SportSync_official Рік тому +2

      Please do another tutorial on this stuff. It's really interesting.

    • @kkgt6591
      @kkgt6591 Рік тому +2

      Can you please Zoom in on the code. It's not readable on mobile screen.

    • @orangehatmusic225
      @orangehatmusic225 Рік тому +2

      100% disagree with your opening statement. The Rasberry pi is now impossible to buy. What should cost $50 is now selling for $190. All of you illegal rom downloading boi's who wanted emulation jacked up the prices. Way to go pirate. Way to ruin it for everyone else.

    • @kennethbeal
      @kennethbeal Рік тому

      @@orangehatmusic225 Lockdowns had *nothing* to do with it? Seems a little short-sighted there; chips of all types were affected, including the car my dad wanted to buy.
      Pirates STEAL ITEMS. Like Assange recently said, he didn't steal anything; he made a copy. Verbs matter. Ever hear "Possession is nine tenths of the law"? When people copy software, the original possessor does not lose their possession. It's more like lighting a candle from another candle.
      Separately, the esp32 is like $5, a 240x240 color screen is another $5, and PictoBlox is like MIT's Scratch, for the smaller devices.
      Or the Orange Pi, for $117.
      So: I 100% disagree with your 100% disagreement. :)

    • @UltimatePerfection
      @UltimatePerfection Місяць тому

      Rust really runs on everything, even on my local iron river bridge!

  • @rorybninetythree
    @rorybninetythree Рік тому +661

    I knew literally nothing about embedded systems and barely anything about Rust 18 minutes ago, and now it feels like it's a very acheivable thing to learn thanks to this demonstration. You're clearly a gifted teacher, fantastic video.

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +59

      Welcome aboard!

    • @chillbro2275
      @chillbro2275 6 місяців тому +6

      @@LowLevelLearning no pun intended :D haha

    • @niaei
      @niaei 3 місяці тому +3

      Now you can update your resume. :)

    • @ben_sch
      @ben_sch 3 місяці тому +1

      Same here. I have a background in web dev, but allost everything was new to me here. Yet, I‘ve understood pretty much everything and learned a ton. But honestly speaking, I will probably never learn this type of low-level programming. Just seems way too much effort to get something done when there are easier albeit less efficient tools/languages to use. Nice to be able to peek into this world though

  • @atdit
    @atdit Рік тому +556

    The great thing about your videos is the pace and "constant" narration. It feels like there isn't a single second in the video where you're not explaining what you're currently doing. That makes it very easy to not lose focus and attention as a viewer

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +34

      Wow, thanks!

    • @matzeb.ausv.1380
      @matzeb.ausv.1380 Рік тому +4

      very true

    • @kylarosborne698
      @kylarosborne698 Рік тому +6

      @@LowLevelLearning I agree. You really talk about every detail which is so important. The viewer has no questions, and you make no assumptions about what the viewer knows. I hope to watch more like this in the future :D

  • @jnth2
    @jnth2 Рік тому +191

    Really like that you use documentation as a reference to explain. Lots of tutorials skip the fact that documentation is there to help.

    • @kennethbeal
      @kennethbeal Рік тому +1

      It's awesome that he does that, agreed! Just a few videos of this nature and we're downloading helicopter flight manuals between words of dialogue! :) (Matrix reference; as we age, our references get stale, like moldy bread one can use to cure disease or have interesting visions with.)

  • @saeidakbari6303
    @saeidakbari6303 Рік тому +174

    The amount of effort on this video to make it only 18 min is insane if you are a bit familiar with embedded system, thanks for it LLL

  • @reo101
    @reo101 Рік тому +58

    You can make a `build.rs` file like this
    ```rust
    fn main() {
    println!("cargo:rerun-if-changed=./linker.ld");
    }
    ```
    to hint to cargo that a change in that file should also result in a rebuild

    • @byronhambly
      @byronhambly Рік тому +2

      Great suggestion, I think you also need to set that build script in the Cargo.toml mainfest of your crate

  • @megumin4625
    @megumin4625 Рік тому +27

    13:39 I would hope nobody would be mad. Unsafe code is basically the only way this can be done. It's just a fact. There's a reason rust has the unsafe keyword, because it's sometimes needed. :) Also, thanks for the video. It's very enlightening!

    • @devrim-oguz
      @devrim-oguz 3 місяці тому

      It is just same as writing C inside rust with more wording of course.

    • @TheSast
      @TheSast 3 місяці тому +9

      ​@@devrim-oguz unsafe rust is not C

    • @Gramini
      @Gramini 3 місяці тому +4

      Could probably be abstracted into a safe interface (or however it's called). Like a struct (with the PIN number) with methods or even plain functions (one for turning a hard-coded PIN on and the other for turning it off). But in the end the unsafe has be be somewhere.

    • @tsclly2377
      @tsclly2377 3 місяці тому

      Safe code is slower code, as there has to be a lot of hash inserts and checks and when you are processing movement, electrical spikes and wave forms, a lot of interrupts that are happening in the higher kilohertz range, such as signal processing, your program isn't gong to be looking at the web directly and should reject anything unexpected.

    • @TheSast
      @TheSast 3 місяці тому +4

      @@tsclly2377 safe code is not slower than unsafe code

  • @dbznt
    @dbznt Рік тому +53

    Thanks for Everything you do LLL, Seriously your videos have invigorated my spirit and inspired me to learn more about computer systems and lower level langs. C and Go are becoming my favorite languages to write my code. I'm gonna try writing some rust today!. Thanks again! Keep up the great work!

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +4

      Wow, thank you! I'm so happy to hear the videos inspire you :)

    • @BR-lx7py
      @BR-lx7py Рік тому +1

      @@LowLevelLearning Haha, that's interesting because my takeaway was that low level programming is so different that I know less about it than I thought :). I could probably follow along, but I'm SOL the second something goes wrong.

  • @TheBendixSA
    @TheBendixSA Рік тому +4

    So glad I found this channel, I have been writing code for a long time and wanted to jump into some low level stuff to improve my wider understanding esp. embedded systems etc. You cover fundamentals so well and easily digestible. Thanks for this!

  • @nicholasfrillman42
    @nicholasfrillman42 Рік тому +1

    I am absolutely watching your channel from now on.This is the most I have ever learned from a programming video. I've been trying to learn how to be a low level developer for years. Since high school. WOW. It's quick. It's on point. And I can follow it. I love how you just filled in several gaps learning in only a few minutes. I could have stayed in college, and I am not knocking anyone who does, but I have a short attention span. Thanks for this. Don't even remember how I stumbled here.

  • @Dygear
    @Dygear Рік тому +28

    Thanks!

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +8

      MARK! My guy. Thank you so much for this generous Super Thanks. I hope this video helped you in your embedded development journey.

  • @casperes0912
    @casperes0912 3 місяці тому +4

    I started working on an operating system in rust. I never went that far with it but it works. Can boot both legacy bios mode and modern efi style. Though only in qemu on efi. Don’t have video output properly working on any real efi hardware I have. But with bios boot it works with a text mode console. Boots into long mode and all but no memory protection

  • @ChefKissInc
    @ChefKissInc Рік тому +30

    The panic handler function is for Rust panics. Not hardware faults. And #[panic_handler] is not called an option, it's called an attribute.

    • @marcuskissinger3842
      @marcuskissinger3842 Місяць тому +2

      Calm down buddy

    • @ChefKissInc
      @ChefKissInc Місяць тому +2

      @@marcuskissinger3842 Not sure where the impression I wasn't calm when writing that came from, I just have a neutral tone.

    • @marcuskissinger3842
      @marcuskissinger3842 Місяць тому

      @@ChefKissInc yeah but just relax

  • @TimothyChapman
    @TimothyChapman Рік тому +12

    You should configure the internal timers to trigger an interrupt every millisecond to increment a counter. Then reference that counter to to get more precise timing on when the LEDs turn on and off.

  • @otm3107
    @otm3107 Рік тому +2

    With all the soft soft tutorials that exist on YT, yours just created that "light bulb illumination" mont in my head. Thanks for taking the

  • @34tttttaa
    @34tttttaa Рік тому +1

    Such high quality content, thank you!
    Hoping in the future you can find the time to create a whole course on embedded Rust, I'd sign up in a heartbeat.

  • @odanabunaga2505
    @odanabunaga2505 Місяць тому +1

    as a recovering TS dev I'm watching this in complete awe! Thanks for explaining what you're doing, it leaves me with hope ;)

  • @SandhanSarma
    @SandhanSarma Рік тому +19

    Fantastic video, very very informative. Hope to see more content on RUST for embedded systems from Low Level Learning

  • @josefaguilar2955
    @josefaguilar2955 Рік тому +4

    Absolutely killing it with how you're presenting. I'm not really a fan of Rust but I couldn't stop watching.

  • @tadmikowsky7520
    @tadmikowsky7520 Рік тому +1

    Excellent vid man. Been a while since I've done any embedded programming. Very cool seeing how to do this low-level stuff on a pi 😎👍

  • @Nitiiii11
    @Nitiiii11 7 місяців тому +4

    Thanks man, it took some adjustments to make it run in u-boot on a cortex-a9, but I figured it out eventually. Very helpful tutorial.

  • @appelnonsurtaxe
    @appelnonsurtaxe Місяць тому

    I really like how you explain not only how to do things, but how to look for things yourself (e.g. the broadcom datasheet or the rpi firmware). I already have a bit of experience in embedded programming but I'm sure this helps beginners a lot. And more importantly, it makes the whole field feel less magic and scary than just saying "this address controls this LED because I know it".

  • @rVnikov
    @rVnikov Рік тому

    Superb quality by all means. Instant subscribe without a moment of hesitation.

  • @klebleonard
    @klebleonard Рік тому +41

    This is reallz interesting. What are your plans on next courses for your platform? Will the current mini course get updates and more content?

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +13

      Current mini course will probably stay in its current state while I work on the full AVR course. Thanks for watching!

  • @jorgezuniga3956
    @jorgezuniga3956 Рік тому +15

    I wish RPi 4s were $35 once again...

  • @herbertwestiron
    @herbertwestiron Рік тому +11

    Great video but can you please increase the font size of visual studio code? It's hard to read code. Thanks.

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +9

      Yeah I'm sorry I realized this after I uploaded. I edit on a 4K monitor, didn't realize it was so small on YT.

  • @ElZero010
    @ElZero010 Рік тому +8

    this is incredible, thanks for sharing this knowledge

  • @wulfy23
    @wulfy23 Рік тому

    thankyou. someone who shows the meat of a topic, no fluff and just the right amount of fat. great contribution. cheers.

  • @mrrolandlawrence
    @mrrolandlawrence Рік тому +1

    Wow seeing arm assembler at the end there really took me back to my assembler days of programming the first acorn risc machines…

  • @rhamses
    @rhamses Місяць тому

    I just found the channel and I loved the video. One thing that it makes me thing was: if is it possible to build a kernel with Rust, then running appa on top of it would be possible too. The possibilities to embed are endless

  • @inteluhdgaming1524
    @inteluhdgaming1524 Рік тому

    Very nice and well explained. Every tNice tutorialng is crystal clear and easily understandable.

  • @justinlee8328
    @justinlee8328 Рік тому

    the absolute best programming video I've seen in years

  • @devrim-oguz
    @devrim-oguz 3 місяці тому +4

    The CPU must be running very slow for us to see that LED blink that slowly. 50000 nop operations is nothing for a modern CPU, and we shouldn’t be able to see the LED normally if it ran at the full speed.

    • @SqueakyNeb
      @SqueakyNeb 3 дні тому

      Yeah that should be flashing at like 10KHz or thereabouts. ???

  • @baileytownsend1341
    @baileytownsend1341 Рік тому +1

    Me as a web developer trying to learn more low level programming during most of this, "Funny words magic man." But really great video, and has helped me a ton.

  • @himanipku22
    @himanipku22 Рік тому

    Fantastic video! Really wish they covered this in my software engineering degree. No time to learn like the present!

  • @sc0or
    @sc0or 3 місяці тому

    Nice. Finally no more annoying unavoidable Linux boot log messages in a console. Just a pure code and an awesome blinking ;)

  • @matheusbona_
    @matheusbona_ Місяць тому

    Amazing content! Congrats dude!

  • @user-kf3rm3gd5j
    @user-kf3rm3gd5j 3 місяці тому

    This was really interesting. It would be great to see 2 things:
    1) A list of references of sources you read to understand each part of this problem including the tools to generate the image that was capable of being loaded into the PI. i.e. a learning path.
    2) An approach where you halted the processor putting it into a low power mode until the hardware timer triggered an interrupt allowing you to advance the state of the LED. The spinning for a delay makes this a bad start outside of proving that something could be done.

  • @DCODev
    @DCODev Рік тому

    Excellent tutorial and information. Thank you for sharing. Just gained a new subscriber! Thanks again!

  • @Brando56894
    @Brando56894 Рік тому +1

    I just started watching your videos yesterday and in every one you've had full facial hair, the beanie and glasses. Then this one autoplays and I'm like "wait...is this the same guy?" you look so different without all of those "modifiers" haha

  • @samjohn1063
    @samjohn1063 Рік тому

    Good video thank you , updated visual studio and everything worked. I'm really glad I found a working crack

  • @ibressa
    @ibressa Рік тому

    Love your stuff! Big help!

  • @youtubepooppismo5284
    @youtubepooppismo5284 Рік тому

    Great video 10/10 clear and interesting

  • @marcovitale8808
    @marcovitale8808 Рік тому +3

    Amazing content, thank you!

  • @bitsnbytes7514
    @bitsnbytes7514 Рік тому

    Hohoho... there are so many things I like about this video. If this is anything to go by, I'm gonna make time and binge watch tf out of this channel.

  • @becelli
    @becelli Рік тому +8

    Hey! Awesome video.
    As a viewer, I'd like to suggest increasing the font size (zooming the UI) to be clearer to read in small screens. Furthermore, as a concept in video making, it's better to avoid non-flat color elements like your transparent/medium opacity terminal. The video encoder has to sacrifice quality in texts (code) to embrace all details on screen (the diverse details in your wallpaper)

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +5

      I realized after I rendered and uploaded that the font quality wasn't great :(. I'm transitioning my videos to 4K in the future to avoid this. Thanks for watching!

    • @AbelShields
      @AbelShields Рік тому +2

      Actually, if its static then it doesn't detract any quality at all - Tom Scott did a great video about video quality, bit rate, and moving vs stationary details.

    • @Aurora12488
      @Aurora12488 Рік тому +3

      ​@@AbelShields Agreed, translucency is perfectly fine when static, which in this case 99.999% of the time it is; potentially even more 9s when considering the video is 60fps and the proportion of the screen that updates is quite small. The encoder/decoder will *absolutely not choke* on this sort of content.
      To the video encoder, there is no difference here between a terminal with a translucent background, and a terminal with an opaque, washed out background image. Translucency only matters due to the complexity of attempting to compress something that is changing in extremely unpredictable ways, which translucent objects overlapping and moving on top of a moving background tend to cause.
      I really like the flair the translucent terminal gives; please don't change it​ @Low Level Learning ! Though of course, please go to 4K to make the text nice and crisp :)

    • @becelli
      @becelli Рік тому +2

      You were right guys. I forgot about it. Thanks for the correction!

  • @nathan12581
    @nathan12581 Рік тому

    Would love more videos on baremetal kernel programming in rust. Maybe stepping slightly into OS programming ?

  • @ahmetkocabyk1555
    @ahmetkocabyk1555 Рік тому

    WOW!!!! This video is very helpful!!

  • @wickeddubz
    @wickeddubz Рік тому +9

    Never in my life i haven’t seen so unexpected transition, “let’s blink LED with your own kernel”

  • @joemarc0
    @joemarc0 2 місяці тому

    this was soooo useful, thanks

  • @lucabrescia6817
    @lucabrescia6817 Рік тому

    Amazing content dude!

  • @willi1978
    @willi1978 Рік тому

    this is very cool. embedded programming is very interesting but so far i didn't dare to try it yet

  • @procyonq
    @procyonq Рік тому +8

    Thanks for the fantastic tutorial! Could you show a good example of controlling GPIO without "unsafe"?

    • @jovianarsenic6893
      @jovianarsenic6893 Рік тому +5

      I don’t think you can, since you’re writing to uninitialised memory addresses, a massive safe rust nono

    • @edgeeffect
      @edgeeffect Рік тому

      @@jovianarsenic6893 I'm pretty sure they do it in a safe way in some of the STM32 crates.... but I could be mistaken.

    • @Grstearns
      @Grstearns Рік тому +7

      While not totally unsafe, but definitely more safe, you should wrap only the unsafe parts of the code. Have small subroutines that are entirely unsafe and call them from safe code. Pin-enable, pin-on, and pin-off (maybe the no-op if that requires unsafe as well) should all be their own functions that get called by the main loop which would realistically also be calling some kind of computational code that you definitely want to be checked

    • @rory_o
      @rory_o Рік тому

      I was wondering this myself. There must be a way without using unsafe blocks. I know they’re trying to use rust in the Linux kernel, and kernel device work is almost all about writing bits to raw pointers. Surely rust in the kernel isn’t just all unsafe blocks.

    • @DocWilco
      @DocWilco Рік тому +4

      ​@@Grstearns this is exactly how you're supposed to do unsafe code. Make it as small as possible so that it's easy to read and verify (by humans) that it does only the thing it's supposed to do.

  • @mariogeier6172
    @mariogeier6172 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the well made video!
    Which command can I use on windows to extract the binary from the elf file? I use the Visual Studio C++ Build Tools.

  • @nicholasbicholas
    @nicholasbicholas Рік тому +15

    Thanks for such a great introduction! My one question is just about the naming? Is _start convention or arbitrary? Should the entrypoint always be prefixed by an underscore? Is the name main forbidden?

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +17

      _start is the Linux convention for the entry point to a binary. Not a requirement to call it that, although some compilers expect it

  • @beratakcay2017
    @beratakcay2017 Рік тому

    You are a living god among n, a legend worthy of praise. What you've uploaded here, will echo into eternity!

  • @phenanrithe
    @phenanrithe Рік тому

    Very interesting, thanks! The Pi is already very beefy to learn embedded programming, at least it makes it very comfortable. Anyway, I'm wondering if they'll even be able to produce the 3 model again, I'm not optimistic. It would be a shame, so much fun things to do with it.

  • @hichaeretaqua
    @hichaeretaqua Рік тому +4

    Can you increase the font size in vscode? Its pretty hard to read. The font size in the terminal is very good

  • @jarvenpaajani8105
    @jarvenpaajani8105 Рік тому +1

    Wait a minute, how did you figure out how many nop's you needed?
    Really good work, totally earned my subscription!

    • @Gramini
      @Gramini 3 місяці тому

      It's just an arbitrary amount. NOP = no operation, which is used to make the program sleep. If it's blinking too fast, make it more. If it's too slow, reduce the number.

  • @minirop
    @minirop Рік тому +5

    I don't do rust, but still super useful information. I just got a pico W to do bare metal programming (and learning "properly" ARM assembly at the same time).
    next step is using a hardware timer instead of a loop?

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +3

      Hardware timer/interrupt would be a good alternative way to do this. Good luck with your Pico W! I'm still waiting on mine :(

  • @GeinponemYT
    @GeinponemYT 2 місяці тому

    Awesome video! I always assumed it would be extremely difficult to get Rust running on bare metal, but this makes it seem pretty easy (I bet it took you a while to figure all of this out though, so thanks for the great tutorial).
    One question though: how would one integrate some sort of a filesystem into this? Say I want to store files on the RasPi and access them from within Rust. Is this possible (maybe by partitioning the storage device beforehand...)?

  • @solorideventures3084
    @solorideventures3084 Рік тому

    I was surprised how understandable tNice tutorials tutorial is, thanks!

  • @grimonce
    @grimonce Рік тому

    That's what we did on the university, but I was never good enough to actually get a job in embedded, so I just write Python stuff...
    Good luck to anyone pursuing this as a career choice. This is however a great hobby and great for home automation, maybe starting your startup...

  • @KresnaPermana
    @KresnaPermana Рік тому +2

    love the video,this is what i want to try with rust! can we get more bare metal like this on another device? arduino maybe?
    thank you

  • @keithprice1950
    @keithprice1950 Рік тому +1

    It seems like Rust is really gaining momentum at the moment. I've switched from learning web dev with JavaScript to focusing now solely on Rust, not for any particular field, I just want to really get to grips with Rust. I'm taking a gamble but it feels like a really good investment.

  • @ProtoByte
    @ProtoByte Рік тому +1

    I would love to see you setup and use Rust within an STMCube or MPLABX IDE development environment. Also curious if those IDE's could support ICD with Rust. I could use Rust professionally if I knew how to do that.

  • @thebiomicroguy
    @thebiomicroguy Рік тому

    I have grasped many info from explanation. Some of them were completely new to me.
    I'll appreciate if you were able to zoom just to the area where lines of code are written, specially the IDE.
    Thanks,,

  • @cherubin7th
    @cherubin7th Рік тому +12

    Cool, I thought bare metal would be much more difficult.

    • @grimonce
      @grimonce Рік тому

      Well it is not that bad if the program memory can be loaded from an external SD card. If not then you need some kind of gateway into the built in flash, usually board producer provides these.. custom boards it is on you.

  • @brandongunnarson7483
    @brandongunnarson7483 Рік тому

    I have no idea what I just watched but I enjoyed it

  • @hupa1a
    @hupa1a Рік тому

    Great one!

  • @zach9940
    @zach9940 Рік тому +3

    Using `global_asm` to change the link section of a function is not supported (since top-level items may be reordered arbitrarily, so it might not apply to what you want it to.
    The intended way to change the section a function is in is with the link_section attribute, e.g. #[link_section = ".text._start"] pub extern "C" fn _start() { loop {} }

  • @uuu12343
    @uuu12343 Рік тому

    Unironically an actually good rust tutorial in general lmao

  • @NoorquackerInd
    @NoorquackerInd Рік тому +2

    This is insane. I can't believe it didn't take _that_ much work to make this work in Rust

    • @chillbro2275
      @chillbro2275 6 місяців тому

      The most work comes in figuring out what you need to do. Scouring documentation, and elsewhere for the key information is an absolute pain.

  • @PejmanRezaei-qv9lt
    @PejmanRezaei-qv9lt 2 місяці тому

    nice content. thanks

  • @job4753
    @job4753 Рік тому

    Heyyy would cross compiling through cross-rs also work?
    In my experience at least for cross compiling from windows to linux distros it is way easier to use cross

  • @steffanjansenvanvuuren3257
    @steffanjansenvanvuuren3257 Рік тому

    Great Video,
    I wrote a Synth app in C#, I started coding it on a Microcontroller, but had to move it to my PC for speed etc.etc.
    Now I want to implement it on a Raspberry Pi.
    What would you recommend?

  • @fieldlab4
    @fieldlab4 Рік тому

    Impressive! BTW, Ada RTOS has always been able to do this if you can get it all supported.

  • @djupstaten2328
    @djupstaten2328 3 місяці тому +1

    Calling it: NASA will soon use Rust exclusively.

  • @0netom
    @0netom 3 місяці тому

    It's fantastic to have so much knowledge packed into such a short video, BUT this knowledge should not even be necessary!
    How one even gathers all this info on their own? That would probably take a few more hours to explain :)
    I think this video clearly demonstrates how abnormal is the current state of software development:
    * Half the story was about how to *disable* features.
    * We needed a linker configuration, which was *not* in Rust, but some whatever file format, AND it was just as long as the final program.
    * It also had to be copy-pasted, because it isn't intuitive enough to remember.
    * Nothing in the 1st half was related to LED blinking.
    * At the end of the 2nd half, we had to *download and trust* 3 binary files,
    ~3  *million* bytes in total, with "magic" file names,
    to run this ~200 byte (NOT *kilobyte*, just *byte*) example program.
    * Finally, we had to *disable* a feature, again, because we are not even utilizing the full 64bit capabilities of the hardware.

  • @gplusplus314
    @gplusplus314 Рік тому

    I didn’t know where to ask, so I figured I’d try in a UA-cam comment. Do you think you could do a video on various career paths that can be taken as a low level programmer? I have tons of experience doing high level things, but I’m considering a career shift.

  • @pimesonhadron
    @pimesonhadron 3 місяці тому

    Thank you so much for this video - that’s really cool! I have done something similar in C++ but to see this in Rust is awesome!
    A follow up question if that’s okay please: let’s say you wanted to write a Rust application to run on Linux on a RPi 3B, what would you prefer: using the /dev/gpio* interface, or actually tweaking memory mapped addresses? What does the Rust code look like there: obviously you don’t need to bother with no_main right?
    Would love to see an example - if you or anyone has done it please.

  • @Vishal-zr3rg
    @Vishal-zr3rg Рік тому

    Hey! I'm trying to call Rust Functions from C environment using the static library generation in Rust for the Cortex-M0+ target which is thumbv6m-none-eabi in Rust...The Linker in the C environment always throws some missing sections error like "section .ARM.exidx.text._start isn't included by the sections map". When i add this section..it throws more and more sections continuously. Appreciate any help

  • @caretchara
    @caretchara Рік тому

    You should honestly start a udemy or something alike. You're a natural teacher!

  • @jwbowen
    @jwbowen Рік тому +1

    I was wondering what I was going to do with my three day weekend :)

  • @hydejel3647
    @hydejel3647 Рік тому

    nice setup btw

  • @peterarnt
    @peterarnt Рік тому

    If I'm not mistaken, your project uses only a single core on the Rpi 3. The BCM2837 processor has 4 cores. Is there a RUST HAL crate that facilitates usage of the all cores in parallel?

  • @craigrmeyer
    @craigrmeyer 3 місяці тому +1

    I had no idea this was even possible.

  • @samgilliam7593
    @samgilliam7593 2 місяці тому

    Can someone explain the syntax he used for assigning the values to the memory addresses? Im just getting into this stuff and I am confused as to why bit shifting is necessary and what its actually doing there

  • @Noliv3
    @Noliv3 Рік тому

    screen in the top left, look at where it says program and click on where it says “aggressive te” and change it to “analog app 1 te”

  • @ankk98
    @ankk98 3 місяці тому

    It looks really hard to do low level programming. Huge respect for those who do.

  • @TobyMole
    @TobyMole Рік тому

    Interesting info!
    Though I'm not sure how this qualifies as a custom kennel?

  • @chetana9802
    @chetana9802 Рік тому

    this was so cool

  • @jordixboy
    @jordixboy Рік тому +4

    really good video thank you! Im really confused, how can a file start at position 0x000..8000? what does that mean? Isnt each position incremented for each byte of data we have, and files start at position 0x0?

    • @LowLevelLearning
      @LowLevelLearning  Рік тому +2

      The file gets loaded at that address by the RP bootloader. We need to make sure the code we write is aware of that, otherwise offsets may be wrong in the code. Theoretically we could compile the code "position-independent" to get around this, but that's not always easy.

    • @jordixboy
      @jordixboy Рік тому +1

      @@LowLevelLearning ahhh its like an offset? so we have other data before that position (0x0 ..0x008000) and that file is loaded after all that content exactly at position 0x00..800

    • @minirop
      @minirop Рік тому

      @@jordixboy at address 0x00000000 is the start of the bootloader (it's own vector table). and the 0x8000 offset is to be future proof (so the bootloader can grow/be replaced by another one without exceeding the reserved max size)

    • @edgeeffect
      @edgeeffect Рік тому

      The 8000 is the address in memory that the code gets loaded at. It's not a file offset which is just the position of the bytes in the file.

  • @ironman5034
    @ironman5034 Рік тому

    Wow, am impressed

  • @user-oz5hi1px7e
    @user-oz5hi1px7e 4 місяці тому

    was just curious, can't we add output_format(binary) in the linkerscript instead of following 18:20

  • @rino19ny
    @rino19ny 10 місяців тому

    where you get the tool to generate the Pi img file?

  • @donmarvino
    @donmarvino 2 місяці тому

    I was trying this on a raspi zero v1.3 (because that's one I have lying around)
    But it's not booting properly (7 green flashes) I figured it probably wouldn't work but I'd just try.
    Where would I even start to figure out the changes I should make?

  • @stormer9887
    @stormer9887 7 місяців тому

    How do you do the elf2bin section on windows?

  • @longdao953
    @longdao953 Рік тому

    Thank you!

  • @morgan0
    @morgan0 Рік тому

    would be cool to see you do some embedded nim