There are 'problems' needing to be addressed with offshore wind farms

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  • Опубліковано 10 сер 2022
  • Regulation Economics’ Alan Moran says offshore wind farms are “more than twice as expensive” as onshore ones as the government relies on offshore wind farms to fulfill its climate plans.
    The Sydney Morning Herald reports dozens of turbines could be installed off Gippsland in Victoria and Wollongong and Newcastle in New South Wales.
    “We have problems here because the offshore wind farms are in areas which can be readily visible, often in scenic places,” Mr Moran told Sky News host Chris Kenny.
    “We have some problems with, how do we gel that with fishing rights, there are some issues about whale migrations, I don’t know how we’d handle that."

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  • @chrisruss9861
    @chrisruss9861 Рік тому +54

    Trash the environment to save the environment.

  • @JessicaZane4realz
    @JessicaZane4realz Рік тому +34

    Those wind farms just look so ridiculous.

    • @freeagent8225
      @freeagent8225 Рік тому +5

      They are for making power you dont marry them.

    • @Design_no
      @Design_no Рік тому +5

      @@freeagent8225 but you have to look at them, and maintain them and give them a decent burial.

    • @freeagent8225
      @freeagent8225 Рік тому +1

      @@Design_no Plenty in Europe in the Bsltic Sea.

    • @les_spoddy4073
      @les_spoddy4073 Рік тому +1

      @@freeagent8225 I seen a video of the ones int the North Sea near England some of them were broken in half, some on fire, over there has very high maintainance costs.

    • @freeagent8225
      @freeagent8225 Рік тому +1

      @@les_spoddy4073 I've only seen the ones near Keil, turning merrily, providing power for all. Maybe the Germsns just do it better?

  • @Design_no
    @Design_no Рік тому +44

    The fact the need constant maintenance, only last 10-15 years and then need to go to landfill. Yes, many problems.

    • @MKitchen75
      @MKitchen75 Рік тому

      Yes and the materials are un recyclable , that truly is green energy.. killing birds etc... real ecofriendly solution ffs.. 😤

    • @Retiredroamers
      @Retiredroamers Рік тому +8

      They won’t last that long in Bass Strait, also the work boats and crane barges can’t work with swells over 2m That happens a lot.. what ever they say it’s going to cost, you could almost triple it before they are done….And none of them will generate 1 watt until the whole lot are completed and commissioned.

    • @juliuscaesar2583
      @juliuscaesar2583 Рік тому

      Don't go against the narrative, give in to the science.

    • @les_spoddy4073
      @les_spoddy4073 Рік тому

      Also what are they going to do with Electric cars and the batterys when they die and even solar panels, I don't think they have thought this through very well and why are some European starting to back off the Net Zero by 2050 hmmmmm I wonder.

    • @juliuscaesar2583
      @juliuscaesar2583 Рік тому

      There is a shit load of money to be made from the subsidies, that's why they keep pushing this crap, if they were really concerned with this so called climate change crap they would all be for nuclear power.

  • @gardenkitty
    @gardenkitty Рік тому +23

    A huge windfarm only produces 20% of energy need? That hardly seems worth all the expense of manufacturing, building, maintaining, replacing discarding the old turbines.

    • @juliuscaesar2583
      @juliuscaesar2583 Рік тому

      Someone is making a shit load of money from the subsidies, that's why they keep pushing this narrative, if they were serious about so called climate change they would be building nuclear plants all over the country. This is only about money,

    • @justvisitingterra6459
      @justvisitingterra6459 Рік тому

      IT'S NOT. MAXXAUS.

  • @dwade2026
    @dwade2026 Рік тому +31

    The cost of maintenance is outrageous

    • @mikeharrison3618
      @mikeharrison3618 Рік тому

      Made from fossil fuels. ALEX EPSTEIN 's "Fossil Future" on sale now. HUMAN flourishing. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.

    • @benjaminfalzon4622
      @benjaminfalzon4622 Рік тому

      Many billions of dollars has been wasted on the renewable and they still saying that the climate is getting worst.I wonder how many more billions of dollars are going to be wasted before the climate and our power bills begin to stabelize?

    • @rogerthat487
      @rogerthat487 Рік тому

      The cost of removal even worse when they die after 20 or so years even worse

    • @The_rot_consumes.
      @The_rot_consumes. Рік тому +1

      A lot cheaper than ageing fossil fuels

    • @benjaminfalzon4622
      @benjaminfalzon4622 Рік тому

      @@The_rot_consumes. What a load of Crap!....They can spend as many more billions of dollars as they like on the stupid renewables, but they will never fix the climate.

  • @stokersruleok5863
    @stokersruleok5863 Рік тому +7

    This green shit is getting out of hand!

    • @kirkc4696
      @kirkc4696 Рік тому +1

      It has already got out of hand!

  • @dogzebra2708
    @dogzebra2708 Рік тому +13

    This will never be practical. They fvckd up the sound with these things a few years back and they've already cost more to maintain and operate than they value of all the power the[y] will ever produce.

  • @66steverose
    @66steverose Рік тому +14

    Maintaining offshore infrastructure is unbelievably expensive

    • @The_rot_consumes.
      @The_rot_consumes. Рік тому

      It’s worked for Belgium, the Netherlands, the UK, Germany, Denmark and others. And what about offshore oil and gas farms?

    • @jimlofts5433
      @jimlofts5433 Рік тому

      @@The_rot_consumes. oh goody so Albo was right cheap reliable power - by the by hows things looking in EU right now

    • @MnyamwezMnyamwez-vx1wb
      @MnyamwezMnyamwez-vx1wb 5 місяців тому

      ​@@The_rot_consumes.All OFFSHORE WIND FARMS in ALL the countries you have named pay astronomically more for every Megawatt hour produced in those farms compared to conventional sources.

  • @vivianlouder8774
    @vivianlouder8774 Рік тому +16

    *No Food, No Fuel, No Water =Anarchy*

    • @Design_no
      @Design_no Рік тому +3

      I guess thats what is needed.

    • @gulaggreens296
      @gulaggreens296 Рік тому +3

      I'm gonna turn government into shrunken heads for my personal collection

  • @lesleyweber4585
    @lesleyweber4585 Рік тому +14

    3 years of this rubbish,god help this country,it’s going to end in tears

  • @thefleecer3673
    @thefleecer3673 Рік тому +8

    $400 to $800 billion in "renewable investments"? You could power the whole of Australia with 30 x 1,100 MW nuclear reactors. Average cost $7.5 billion each, totalling $225 billion. This renewable push is an unconscionable disaster

    • @mikeharrison3618
      @mikeharrison3618 Рік тому

      UNreliables=wind and solar. ALEX EPSTEIN 's "Fossil Future" on sale now. HUMAN flourishing. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.

    • @thefleecer3673
      @thefleecer3673 Рік тому

      @niels lund South Korea build them in 56 months on average, that's less than 5 years. Australia could contract the South Koreans to future proof our country. It's a win for them and a win for us

    • @The_rot_consumes.
      @The_rot_consumes. Рік тому

      It takes a wind turbine 6 months maximum to pay itself off.

    • @thefleecer3673
      @thefleecer3673 Рік тому

      @@The_rot_consumes. does that include construction, maintenance, decommissioning and disposal costs? Please provide a link that proves that

    • @The_rot_consumes.
      @The_rot_consumes. Рік тому

      @@thefleecer3673 yes, also nuclear reactors take too long to build and the power is too expensive

  • @vivianlouder8774
    @vivianlouder8774 Рік тому +8

    *Technocratic digital dictatorship*

  • @matthewflinders1978
    @matthewflinders1978 Рік тому +50

    “CO2 is so beneficial in other ways, it would be crazy to try and reduce it” quote from Freeman Dyson, eminent Scientist from Princeton university in the United States, an expert in climate studies with over six decades of experience. There we are, plants love carbon dioxide. Follow the science.

    • @weburnitatbothends
      @weburnitatbothends Рік тому

      Bahaha yeah follow the science, like my Dyson vacuum cleaner, it's a shame he died, so much more work for him to disagree with

    • @trenthaynes7444
      @trenthaynes7444 Рік тому +10

      100% correct

    • @johngeier8692
      @johngeier8692 Рік тому +8

      Both the mean surface temperature of Earth (15 degrees centigrade) and atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration (415ppm )are suboptimal.
      The carbon dioxide emissions are actually beneficial. Benefits include increased agricultural yields (main effect) reduced winter heating costs and fewer deaths from hypothermia.
      It is lunacy spending hundreds of billions of dollars trying to prevent largely beneficial changes to the earth’s climate.

    • @onepom63
      @onepom63 Рік тому +1

      They know this but it’s all a big scam a con-job they’re snake oil salesmen peddling dodgy goods & getting kick backs from it, this is what happens when you vote in dodgy governments.

    • @mikeharrison3618
      @mikeharrison3618 Рік тому +2

      ALEX EPSTEIN 's "Fossil Future" on sale now. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels. HUMAN flourishing

  • @vivianlouder8774
    @vivianlouder8774 Рік тому +11

    *WEF cutting Dutch nitrogen by half, climate policy*

    • @Design_no
      @Design_no Рік тому +3

      coming to Aus soon. The abc already chirping about it.

    • @bullshitstomper9417
      @bullshitstomper9417 Рік тому +2

      Get worm farms and make your own nitrogen Become a nitrogen boot legged under the prohibition call it nite shine

    • @praline4157
      @praline4157 Рік тому

      And Netherlands and Ireland paying and putting on pressure to cull livestock. The CEO of a Netherlands bank and WEF member proposing that every individual be given a set carbon limit and credits. The less wealthy can then sell their carbon allowance credits to the wealthy so they can still jet around and yacht but then they less well off won’t have carbon credits. They can stay home and buy insects to eat with the money the rich jet set parts with to still live well and claim moral superiority.

  • @jnagelmakers
    @jnagelmakers Рік тому +6

    More expensive on water. How phucking convenient.

  • @vivianlouder8774
    @vivianlouder8774 Рік тому +12

    *They want to Frame the farmers*

    • @stokersruleok5863
      @stokersruleok5863 Рік тому

      The “ safe food acts” , you can’t share eggs, meat or veg with your neighbours?
      No agenda there ?

  • @crowsfan691
    @crowsfan691 Рік тому +14

    It's all fun and games until a container ship or fishing trawler collides with one.

    • @soundsoflife9549
      @soundsoflife9549 Рік тому +3

      What about a cyclone!

    • @Widesight
      @Widesight Рік тому +1

      They aren’t built in shipping lanes so pretty unlikely. Offshore wind isn’t the complete solution but it does seem a good idea to have a few different energy solutions in the current climate I would have thought

    • @The_rot_consumes.
      @The_rot_consumes. Рік тому

      @@soundsoflife9549 we don’t have cyclones in Victoria

    • @Widesight
      @Widesight Рік тому

      @@alegriart It's unlikely. There's a reason there aren't too many catastrophic collisions at sea. But if we want to avoid all possibility of risk in life then presumably we shouldn't build anything next to roads either.

  • @genderstudiesreview5012
    @genderstudiesreview5012 Рік тому +20

    Coopers Gap Wind farm, Australia's largest wind farm, covers 100 sq/km and apparently can produce 1.5 TWh p/a. The Electricity grid dissipates 265 TWh p/a. So only that would require 17,666 square kilometres of wind farms. Add in electrified transport, storage efficiency etc would take it up to around 40,000 square kilometres of wind turbines - Piece of cake!

    • @stuartbedwell8576
      @stuartbedwell8576 Рік тому +2

      That's how to attract a fat bird. Cheers Stuart.

    • @infidel202
      @infidel202 Рік тому +1

      Don't forget to throw in the electric cars we are going to be made to drive

    • @grinblurnar
      @grinblurnar Рік тому

      17666 sq km is only a square of 133 km on each side. Think how big Australia is. And obviously they won’t all be in one spot. So, it’s negligible.

    • @genderstudiesreview5012
      @genderstudiesreview5012 Рік тому

      @@grinblurnar It'd be more like 200k square. The other problem is storage. It'd take over 3500 Hornsdale batteries to store a days worth of electricity from the Australian electricity grid.

    • @jlrguy2702
      @jlrguy2702 Рік тому

      @@grinblurnar hahahahahahahah you are funny

  • @ginNjus
    @ginNjus Рік тому +6

    And they put windfarms in salt water. Go figure.

  • @lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836
    @lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836 Рік тому +10

    I've seen those wind turbines fail on land...aren't there toxic materials (oil and battery acid) in those?

    • @kirkc4696
      @kirkc4696 Рік тому +3

      There most certainly are! And they can leach into soil when used in landfill.

    • @lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836
      @lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836 Рік тому +1

      @@kirkc4696 That's what I thought! So let's plunk them in the ocean....WhAt CoUlD gO wRoNg?

    • @jglee6721
      @jglee6721 Рік тому +1

      I heard that they can never seal the bearings and they spray hydraulic fluid polluting the land (and water) downwind.

    • @lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836
      @lynzysconstitutionalcrashc7836 Рік тому +1

      @niels lund Good to know. Thank you for sharing.
      My truck doesn't leak, I keep up on the maintenance.
      I've still seen my share of these turbines failing and don't think it wise to plunk them in the ocean. Plus it looks hazardous for ships. That's my humble opinion. Have a blessed day.

    • @loiccharmoille9157
      @loiccharmoille9157 Рік тому

      ​@kirkc please tell me what toxic materials are used in a wind turbine ? How much more toxic is it compared to a nuclear power plant ?

  • @johnfitzsimmons9241
    @johnfitzsimmons9241 Рік тому +6

    Thank you Alan - we need your more reasoned comment - after all, Minister Bowen just said some proposed off-shore wind farm would power 20% of Victoria's houses, but didn't add "for typically only 20% of each day"!

    • @jimlofts5433
      @jimlofts5433 Рік тому +1

      @niels lund only when the wind blows so they stiil need the grid and probably France's nuclear power

  • @fpvince4622
    @fpvince4622 Рік тому +7

    I say we start a windbag farm, all these big government guys and gals can power all our stuff on treadmills.

  • @vivianlouder8774
    @vivianlouder8774 Рік тому +8

    *A Global Financial Coup d’État.*

  • @aaronvallejo8220
    @aaronvallejo8220 Рік тому +4

    Wind and solar PV as of 2022 are the cheapest and fastest sources of new electricity. That graph looks like from 2005. Offshore costs are dropping fast and the potential for all coastal cities as absolutely enormous. Everything is impossible and too costly if you look at wrong data and you want the transition to be impossible.

    • @loiccharmoille9157
      @loiccharmoille9157 Рік тому +1

      Agree, this is obvious misinformation and it tells a lot about the credibility of the show and the speakers

    • @nami1540
      @nami1540 10 місяців тому

      Yep. And it was right out of excel. No sources offered.

  • @chopperking007
    @chopperking007 Рік тому +3

    Why are all politicians so clueless ?

  • @brodydaube4136
    @brodydaube4136 Рік тому +5

    This is touchy subject I wish I knew more about but I don't think this will be best option. It takes up too much space.

    • @johngeier8692
      @johngeier8692 Рік тому

      Wind has a low energy density and wind power is centuries out of date.
      The real problem is the Climate Delusion. The false and delusional belief that mans effects on the earth’s climate are significant and dangerous. They are small and largely beneficial.

  • @therealcnn5346
    @therealcnn5346 Рік тому +3

    Fuck
    Everyone is going to be pissed when they see a sea full of wind turbines

  • @bullshitstomper9417
    @bullshitstomper9417 Рік тому +3

    They’re space it like stupid Who designed this garbage So one falls down don’t hit the other ?

  • @vivianlouder8774
    @vivianlouder8774 Рік тому +6

    *Secret police farmers to dob you in*

  • @jeandaby6488
    @jeandaby6488 Рік тому +2

    Those monstrosities leak oil into the water constantly.

  • @kyrollos0208
    @kyrollos0208 Рік тому +8

    Another issue that must be addressed with offshore wind farms is the farms' vulnerability to enemy attack because they are located out there away from land. Australia's Navy must be able to constantly defend the offshore wind farms and monitor surrounding sea regions for enemy sea vessels and weapons. Enemy attacks on the wind farms may even come from the sky.

    • @johngeier8692
      @johngeier8692 Рік тому +2

      The enemy would be doing us a big favour.

    • @kyrollos0208
      @kyrollos0208 Рік тому +1

      @@johngeier8692 Not if Australia relies significantly on the wind farms for energy security.

    • @mikeharrison3618
      @mikeharrison3618 Рік тому

      Chinese have the corner on the market so they are happy to see the West weakening itself with UNreliables which they will supply us while continuing for the next 40 years to build coal capacity for themselves.

  • @nomyafiftyonefifty8081
    @nomyafiftyonefifty8081 Рік тому +2

    Don't these turbines contain 600 gallons of oil for the gearbox in each one.

  • @jnagelmakers
    @jnagelmakers Рік тому +3

    How the fuck do you sleep at night covering treason. such evil.

    • @gulaggreens296
      @gulaggreens296 Рік тому +1

      With all the finest goods Chinese Yuan can buy

  • @vivianlouder8774
    @vivianlouder8774 Рік тому +12

    *No Energy No Economy*

    • @mikeharrison3618
      @mikeharrison3618 Рік тому

      Energy POWERS every other industry. ALEX EPSTEIN 's "Fossil Future" on sale now. HUMAN flourishing. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels.

  • @Prognosis__
    @Prognosis__ Рік тому +8

    Locals will protest over this..imagine looking out your window and these monstrosities on the ocean

    • @gulaggreens296
      @gulaggreens296 Рік тому

      It looks like a disease on the fine Earth

    • @C.J.M..
      @C.J.M.. Рік тому +1

      Locals? Like the 0.01% of ‘true patriots’ that protested during the pandemic 😂😂

    • @Brains_Into_Monuments
      @Brains_Into_Monuments Рік тому

      That'll work again. 🤣

    • @DominicPelleisaLiteralRetard
      @DominicPelleisaLiteralRetard Рік тому +2

      @@C.J.M.. another nonsensical comment. That percentile looks like the number of people who succumb to COVID 😉

    • @gulaggreens296
      @gulaggreens296 Рік тому

      @@C.J.M.. the rest are viral imports from Chyna

  • @les_spoddy4073
    @les_spoddy4073 Рік тому +3

    Good luck putting wind farms off South Gippsland because that's Bass Straight it is the roughest passage of water in the world it would be far too dangerous I know I was born and raised there and I don't think those wind turbines would last very long at all.
    A few years ago the Spirit of Tasmania not a small ship was crossing one night and it got two thirds of the way across heading to Melbourne and had to turn back and the ship had millions of dollars of damage to it (so good luck with that one).

  • @daz1963
    @daz1963 Рік тому +1

    Western Aussie here, 200klm south of Perth..
    This winter we have had a few storms
    And really stuff all wind ...

    • @emmaandangus946
      @emmaandangus946 Рік тому

      Yes I live 100 kms inland from Perth and last 3 months we have had very little wind

  • @AximandTheCursed
    @AximandTheCursed Рік тому +4

    Massive waste of money, resources, and they will not deliver the power on the nameplates, certainly not reliably, and the maintenance requirements are beyond the pale. Stop procrastinating and unlock the nuclear potential.

    • @AximandTheCursed
      @AximandTheCursed Рік тому

      @niels lund With the right project management and fabrication, a nuclear plant can be made in less than 6 years, and potentially last 100. An offshore wind farm will not last 10, and never make back the amount of energy it took to manufacture and place, whereas a nuclear plant would only need a few months.

    • @AximandTheCursed
      @AximandTheCursed Рік тому

      @niels lund ...And if you believe that, you'll believe anything; the typical water-based nuclear reactor runs at around ~300C, a few degrees warmer than seasonal temperature on the secondary loop is not an issue, it's a policy-based one if anything.
      Also the first commercial wind farm was built in 1991 in Denmark, and has been decommissioned already. If you're talking about the one in Northumberland, that's already been decommissioned too, No offshore wind farm that was running in 2000 is still active today! And not a single one has ever produced the amount of energy that would provide the full energy cost for their smelting, construction and erection in their operational lifetimes, stop lying!

    • @AximandTheCursed
      @AximandTheCursed Рік тому

      @niels lund Was bored into a coma by your ignorance, France is keeping half the EU's lights on exporting excess energy at considerable profit when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow which is more than half the time in both cases. Any problems with nuclear are policy-generated, usually by the green morons who need to feather their own nests by demanding that the renewable BS gets prioritised for consumption over sources that can be turned on and off regardless of weather or seasonal conditions.
      For instance, in the last 6 months of 2021, France exported over 21.5 Terawatt hours of energy, mostly to Italy and the UK. Nuclear remains the record holder for most consecutive days of over 90% generation with 739 days without refueling... when solar hits day 1 of this, I might be impressed.

  • @BudahOfBirmingham
    @BudahOfBirmingham Рік тому +5

    Offshore wind is used in the UK, because it's the cheapest way to produce power. Out in the sea you get stronger wind and no limits on the size of the turbine

    • @kennethskjttstagistoft7203
      @kennethskjttstagistoft7203 9 місяців тому

      Firstly, no it is not. Perhaps the last tender came in with a unachievable number being repeated constantly in the media. The internal research from Equinor operating the largest offshore windfarm n the world off the Scottish coast shows that they are not even profitable in their own right due to moren downtime, higher maintenance costs and lower lifetimes than expected. Thus Equinor has just pulled out alltogether and depreciated a huge loss in their latest P&L. Get your facts straight before you claim things, please.

  • @henryhryckiewicz858
    @henryhryckiewicz858 Рік тому +1

    They never state the cost, suppy and how long the life span? Then how much to replace and maintenance?

  • @johnprendergast1338
    @johnprendergast1338 8 місяців тому

    Salt water ,wind and a short time are required to expose this convoluted / expensive nightmare ....

  • @lupcokotevski2907
    @lupcokotevski2907 Рік тому +4

    So problematic, not least the engineering. A disaster in the making.

    • @cadaeishere8242
      @cadaeishere8242 Рік тому +1

      Wait until end of life and the (lack) of a recycling program.

  • @lj3571
    @lj3571 Рік тому +1

    Two south Gippsland farmers have just been compensated because of noise and depreciation of land, think carefully where you put them ,way out sea maybe your only choice🌊

  • @chairmandan1794
    @chairmandan1794 Рік тому +5

    Everything is possible, it all comes with great costs.

    • @catatetherat5138
      @catatetherat5138 Рік тому +1

      At one time they were crying that the windmills would kill all the birds what happened. 👀 🇺🇸

    • @therealcnn5346
      @therealcnn5346 Рік тому

      Then you do it!

    • @The_rot_consumes.
      @The_rot_consumes. Рік тому

      However windmill farms pay themselves off in 6 months. Try better

    • @chairmandan1794
      @chairmandan1794 Рік тому +2

      @@The_rot_consumes. Well based on your economics they should be everywhere.

    • @catatetherat5138
      @catatetherat5138 Рік тому +1

      @@chairmandan1794 they won't be

  • @ausforaus7617
    @ausforaus7617 Рік тому +1

    Oh for fks sake! How many times have we heard, "jobs rich, energy rich"
    Bullshit!

  • @tommywharton7605
    @tommywharton7605 Рік тому

    Thank god for sky news Australia, we don't get this reporting in Ireland

  • @jeffreysmith5230
    @jeffreysmith5230 Рік тому +1

    Who ever owns the patin on the wind turbine and the materials are going to get rich rich rich.

  • @suemackill734
    @suemackill734 Рік тому +1

    The cables that transport the electricity to mainland affects crabs, they get disorientated and died.

  • @justvisitingterra6459
    @justvisitingterra6459 Рік тому +1

    TELL HIM HE'S DREAMIN' . MAXXAUS .

  • @cynwalts771
    @cynwalts771 Рік тому +7

    If they hurt one whale its too much of a cost. Bloody ugly blight on the scenery. Go nuke...

  • @truck6859
    @truck6859 Рік тому

    Where is the video y'all posted on the U.N.'s own energy report, saying wind and solar have received hundreds of billions of $, but supply 3% of the world's energy?

  • @davefoord1259
    @davefoord1259 4 місяці тому

    Why is noone saying even at the highest cost per mwh that comes out at 12cents per kwh. Why am i paying 3x that or more?

  • @nami1540
    @nami1540 10 місяців тому

    No sources for the data on the excel-made graph? As far as I know, coal is already more expensive than wind and solar on land.

  • @stevehewitt1151
    @stevehewitt1151 7 місяців тому

    We can't do ONE Snowy Hydro!

  • @thomas4315
    @thomas4315 Рік тому

    One single hurricane of a heavy 27 hurricane a season could damage just one. The propellers broke. The whole line is turn of as they are wires in series to get high votage. Same as they are geared 6-1 to get faster 5 thousand rpm from a slow Turning propeller. So it need part change maintenance every yr lot of friction with sea air moisture. Lots of moving bearing parts. All slowing rusting

  • @ThomasTomiczek
    @ThomasTomiczek Рік тому +1

    Stupid question from a non-Australian: Is Australia not populated BASICALLY on the coastline (MOSTLY)? Would that not leave a LOT of land for wind and solar farms? Just saying. Where no one is no one will complain about all the windmills and their sound (low as it is) and how they destroy the landscape.

    • @kirkc4696
      @kirkc4696 Рік тому

      Rubbish!

    • @DominicPelleisaLiteralRetard
      @DominicPelleisaLiteralRetard Рік тому +1

      It’s not a stupid question. It’s very fair. However, the answer will be stupid or just not exist at all. That’s the Australian way.

    • @cadaeishere8242
      @cadaeishere8242 Рік тому

      Easier to take a boat trip for a few km than drive for a day or two to the big empty bits. Similarly the transmission cables, costs and losses. If these things were reliable and efficient then they could be put anywhere and who cares about the losses. Sadly the economics are not that good.

  • @infidel202
    @infidel202 Рік тому

    How much extra load will electric cars put on the grid if 80%of them are charged at night

  • @jimlofts5433
    @jimlofts5433 Рік тому

    does any else see the problem - more jobs and cheaper power in the same sentence ??? how can you have both

  • @bigbopper143
    @bigbopper143 Рік тому

    How stupid is this idea. They need constant wind to drive them but wind at sea is the enemy of the service teams. Just STUPID

  • @rogerthat487
    @rogerthat487 Рік тому

    UK, Europe, US wind farms generally but offshore in particular have been a social and environmental disaster. Not enough electricity, intractable waste buried - out of sight out of mind. Aust has the opportunity to learn for thier mistakes - to repeat them would be monumental stupidity.

  • @edwardlsanders
    @edwardlsanders Рік тому

    In the UK offshore wind is far cheaper than onshore wind power. This is due to the higher capacity factor. The UK cost of offshore wind is 3.7p/kWh. This is far cheaper than other forms of energy in the UK

    • @aaronvallejo8220
      @aaronvallejo8220 Рік тому

      Oh oh can't say that on here. Clearly they do not want current data and economics. They are using cost graph from roughly 2005 haha

  • @stephengrocott3917
    @stephengrocott3917 Рік тому

    hows the doco going ?

  • @johnmurray8267
    @johnmurray8267 Рік тому +1

    What? They Will electrocute the poor little fishes. No Way.

  • @Vladviking
    @Vladviking Рік тому +1

    You know these windmills don't last forever, seems they only have a 20 to 25 year expected life. If that is so you will have thousands of them due to be replaced well before you want that responsibility.

  • @popoffs5273
    @popoffs5273 Рік тому +1

    I think it would be better to put a wind turbine in each neighborhood to generate power for the homes. I honestly really like the idea of home solar and battery storage because it give me the ability to make my own power without reliance on the grid.

    •  Рік тому

      Wind works awfully on a small scale.

    • @popoffs5273
      @popoffs5273 Рік тому

      @@alegriart good point, I didn't think of that.

  • @ralphpeirson8475
    @ralphpeirson8475 Рік тому

    I believe that Australia has Hurricanes. So how can these offshore windfarms stand up to a category 5 hurricane?? This seems like a whole new level of stupid!

  • @newrenewableenergycontrol5724

    If you redesign your hydro to eliminate accelerated mass losses, your hydro power will increase by five times. And no carbon.

  • @stephenrobbins6353
    @stephenrobbins6353 2 місяці тому

    What percentage is not even turning

  • @awc900
    @awc900 Рік тому +8

    Wave power might be a better solution.

    • @steveh7108
      @steveh7108 Рік тому +3

      Probably would be, just like tide pools and reservoirs. But then they would have to fight all the millionaires with their Oceanside properties.

    • @polarbear5496
      @polarbear5496 Рік тому +3

      Spent millions on one off the coast of Port Kembla Australia through Wollongong University. Failed miserable with constant breakdowns and unreliability. The system is now dumped in a carpark rusting away. Millions $ down the drain.

    • @dogzebra2708
      @dogzebra2708 Рік тому +1

      Or tidal power both of which are a lot more predictable, reliable, and consistent than wind or sunshade.

    • @cadaeishere8242
      @cadaeishere8242 Рік тому

      Very harsh environment.

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 Рік тому

    You can't do 25 snowy hydros and why would you want to when there are so many other far cheaper LDES systems.

  • @devintompkins9626
    @devintompkins9626 Рік тому +2

    Hmm. I wonder if by the bird's that die by flying into these things, do you think it will attract more marine life to these wind farms to feast on an easy meal?
    If so wouldn't that indirectly be a massive fish farm 😆

    • @jglee6721
      @jglee6721 Рік тому +1

      I heard also that they can never seal the bearings and they basically spray hydraulic fluid the whole time causing pollution to the land and water they are situated on. They should be scrutinized on this issue if it's true.

    • @jglee6721
      @jglee6721 Рік тому

      @niels lund Yes, you're a f***ing genius who knows how to design bearings for that huge structure without any leaks.

  • @johnlovett6704
    @johnlovett6704 Рік тому

    Put the wind farms in Canberra; there is plenty of HOT AIR crap coming from there. Enough to power the needs of all Aussies.

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 Рік тому +4

    Put windfarms in Teal electtorates and coal mines and coal-fired power stations in the middle of Liberal electorates, good idea Chris.

    • @Retiredroamers
      @Retiredroamers Рік тому +1

      We will take another coal fired power station in the Latrobe Valley, all the infrastructure is already there..

  • @robinwood590
    @robinwood590 9 місяців тому

    One by one they explode and all the oil and grease, and all the contamination let into the ocean into the living creatures living due.

  • @youbigtubership
    @youbigtubership 9 місяців тому

    Insanity. Utterly crazy.

  • @jayjones8181
    @jayjones8181 Рік тому +1

    Some country will get filthy rich making all of those turbines.

  • @markwilkins8314
    @markwilkins8314 Рік тому +1

    Add boats for more complexity

  • @loiccharmoille9157
    @loiccharmoille9157 Рік тому

    Dear Alan,
    Can you please share what are your sources for the cost comparison . It looks very outdated. LCOE for wind and solar is now by far the cheapest of all technologies.
    There is lots of misinformation in your reportage. Wind farms don't have a "20 years lifestyle", but rather a 30 years lifetime.

  • @bushranger7646
    @bushranger7646 Рік тому

    That would be an easy target for a foreign country. Wind turbines situated in inland Australia choke on dust and we never hear of that. And where will these windy wonders come from...China?

  • @Wayne-ig1il
    @Wayne-ig1il 3 місяці тому

    If it’s not Seismic blasting killing recruitment small marine life which has had a big impact on fishing industry and now offshore wind turbines 👎

  • @casualgamerreed
    @casualgamerreed Рік тому +1

    Free food for the fish

  • @johnsbackwithcommonsense7628
    @johnsbackwithcommonsense7628 Рік тому +1

    We will power the earth with Wind Farms and Unicorn farts .

  • @soundsoflife9549
    @soundsoflife9549 Рік тому +1

    What about geothermal?

    • @Retiredroamers
      @Retiredroamers Рік тому

      Been tried in Cooper Basin SA, they have a pilot plant (Habanero) that supplies Innamincka with power, but they mothballed it in 2013. It needs much more investment to be viable, transmission to the grid is a huge obstacle…

  • @simonbowman6206
    @simonbowman6206 6 місяців тому

    OK THIS IS A BIT LONG WINDED BUT WORTH IT,,,,
    So we are told dams are bad for the environment because of the large amount of concrete used right ?
    SO as best as i can tell to date all of Australia's operational wind farms have consumed enough concrete to make two medium sized dams now a long with the blade issues lets do a side by side workup.
    A dam lasts 100 plus years makes more power than the wind farms is true baseload power near enough 97% recyclable and last time i looked i have never seen a fresh water impoundment were mother nature has said no thanks we dont wish to live there
    THE PLACE IS SWARMING WITH LIFE so dams bad ok if u say so.
    WIND FARM massive slab of concrete to hold the hole thing up & blades that to date have no plant to recycle them are not true baseload power and last at best 25 years right??

  • @thomasdiaz2581
    @thomasdiaz2581 8 місяців тому

    no nuclear power station , more pollution with the coolant water and remove the electrodes when they have finish

  • @benjaminfalzon4622
    @benjaminfalzon4622 Рік тому

    The continuous noises from the offshore wind farms are extremely harmful to the whales

  • @rogerthatone8474
    @rogerthatone8474 Рік тому

    Windmills only last 5 years!! the blades deteriorate pretty quickly!!

    • @rogerthatone8474
      @rogerthatone8474 Рік тому

      @niels lund I don't think so! The blades are fiber glass and the leading edges deteriorate from UV and natural elements and have to be replaced!!

  • @chopperking007
    @chopperking007 Рік тому

    How to make a hard to service wind turbine harder to service....stick it in the sea
    .....omfg.

  • @mikeharrison3618
    @mikeharrison3618 Рік тому

    ALEX EPSTEIN 's "Fossil Future" on sale now. HUMAN flourishing. The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels

  • @oldtimers6460
    @oldtimers6460 Рік тому +1

    Off shore wind is extreme high cost , extreme high maintenance with extreme high wear rates due to salt . Cannot see where the cheaper power comes in ,more expensive i can go with . Who supplies all this wind power -China is the winner . Then no one talks about recycling wind or solar ,at the moment most go to land fill .

  • @gerrtryks2944
    @gerrtryks2944 8 місяців тому

    Too many problems with offshore wind turbines costly to maintain refer to Germany decrease in the construction of off wind farms we should be thinking about Thorium salt water reactors a lot less pollution refer to Copan Hagan Atomic

  • @juliuscaesar2583
    @juliuscaesar2583 Рік тому +2

    What an awful sight,

  • @leinam4164
    @leinam4164 Рік тому

    Unbelievable

  • @kerrycox9226
    @kerrycox9226 Рік тому

    Wind energy conversion.
    In layman's terms, I will explain why 'renewables' are not going to solve the energy needs of a society that takes for granted that turning on a light is a simple process.
    Wind is not something we 'farm'.
    Wind is a result of the rotation of the earth at the speed of 1000 Kph at the equator.
    A wind harnessing device called a wind mill uses this force to push huge aerofoils in one direction that are mounted on a central shaft that has a generator comprising of metallic elements, mostly copper, central to producing the power they are designed for, that requires no fossil fuel to operate.
    But what it takes to get this machine upright and positioned in such a way and in a place that will cause this physical reaction to take place is something that people are not made aware of, for fear of a concerted back lash by those who have every right to be wary and concerned of the detrimental impact they have on the surrounding countryside and those who live close by .
    What is involved to get it to that stage and the energy and materials needed to create these machines in it's self is, in no way, is a simple process.
    Unlike the explanations our governments give us to have us blindly accept there is no other alternative, other than nuclear power, and that is their scare the shit out of us gun.
    Starting with the mines that all the raw materials come from, then the transportation of this raw material to where they are converted into the millions of individual items such as nuts and bolts and washers to stop them from falling apart requires huge amounts of fossil fuels to power the tractors and trucks and locomotives and ships to get it to the first stage of their production.
    Using the energy created by coal burning power generators to produce not only the steel needed but for every single item required to have the finished product that will end up cluttering up our skyline and oceans, will take thousands of tons of coal and gas to produce the type of energy required to produce the steel these machines are made of, and that means carbon emissions.
    Getting all the components to the site needed for the assembly is a major logistical effort that takes thousands of people to perform, all depending on the machinery called cars. boats. and planes to do so.
    All consuming power that is not produced by coal, but is a vital element in the so called reduction of our dependency on carbon producing fuels for humans and industry to survive.
    As soon as these machines are on the ground, they start deteriorating and have what is called 'A use by date' after which there will be the requirement to replace them with new ones, and that will end up being thousands at any one time, and very little if anything of them can or will be recycled due to the nature of some of the materials used in their construction, such as the aerofoil blades that are made of synthetics that are not biodegradable.
    Taking into consideration the average cost to have these machines operating is up to fifty million dollars at a time, it is usually the governments who will subsidize these projects. Believing there will be a return on the money invested in these projects, assisting the multi national companies who control all the natural resources and the extraction of the elements required for the manufacture of all things associated with the renewable energy market.. Solar panels included demanding funds to prop up a process that is flawed.
    Everything produced for the renewable energy market has to be replaced every five to seven years, and when they are replaced, it will be at twice the cost of the original, due to the depletion of all the natural resources being used becoming more expensive to mine and process.
    It is self a defeating exercise to keep thinking that 'renewables' can replace our growing thirst for our electronic device driven society to bare.
    Carbon reduction. ?
    That went out the door the second they thought that creating millions of tons of carbon in the production of all these devices by burning whats left of our fossil fuels was a good idea.
    Clueless.
    The whole lot of them.

  • @gingertom56
    @gingertom56 Рік тому

    More wind turbines firm themselves up there is always wind some were.
    Also they have started installing new wind turbines with recyled made blades.
    Kenny just do a few googles begore trying to shooting of the Rupert Murdoch's line. Or is it lachlan who is the muppet master???

  • @davidbarnsley8486
    @davidbarnsley8486 Рік тому

    How about the destruction of the ocean environment why are we not discussing that
    1 nuclear power plant will power half the state for a third the cost and will last 3 times as long 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @fourgedmushrooms5958
    @fourgedmushrooms5958 Рік тому

    Nuclear power Baby! We can trade for coal or gass with Japanese, for their nuclear technological skills

  • @LoneStranger0
    @LoneStranger0 Рік тому

    As usual Mr Bowen, you are talking bollocks on this deluded wind farm hype. If allowed to pursue this lunacy, you will send the country broker than we are now!!!!

  • @KeepItSimpleSailor
    @KeepItSimpleSailor Рік тому

    This report is comically incompetent.

  • @danjohnston9037
    @danjohnston9037 Рік тому

    Just Think Of Them As Your DEW Line Against Chinese Missiles 😏