The funny thing is, that they later on talked in Crab Game about it and 5up said that they had this conversation about vowels irl, when he was in the UK, but Ellum forgot it.
For anyone wondering why Y isn’t just always considered a vowel-it has to do with something called articulation and phonetics. All the vowel pronunciations of A E I O U can be done without using your tongue, lips, teeth, hard palate, soft palate (velum), or alveolar ridge (the bony ridge behind your teeth). Consonant sounds are formed using each of those things. Vowels are formed by the shape of your mouth/oral cavity. Y, on the other hand, would be considered a consonant, because it’s a palatal sound (/j/-our tongue just barely meets the roof of our mouth to form the sound). However, in some words, like the word “why”, it’s not making its typical Y sound (/j/ as in *Y*ellow). It’s creating a vowel sound (/ai/). Y is only sometimes a vowel, because it can be articulated as a consonant or as a vowel. Tbh it’s actually considered a vowel in most words that have a Y and another vowel, as long as it’s not the first letter. English is weird -your friendly neighborhood SLP :)
@@briarchoi31 your tongue doesn’t necessarily ‘touch’ your hard palate when making the consonant Y sound. For me, the sides of my tongue touch my upper teeth, and it’s the shape between the tongue and the hard palate that make the noise. If your tongue fully touched your hard palate, you’d be making a nasal sound. For the vowel Y sound, your tongue doesn’t interact with anything, it just changes shape within your mouth to make the sound :) hope this helps!
i didn’t even learn vowels in regular schooling, i learnt the vowels through other language studies in primary school lol good old a ha ka ma na pa ra ta wa nga wha
@@alexo.o3729 what I meant is I know they’re called vowels and consonants in english, it took me a bit longer to remember it, in serbian they’re called samoglasnici and suglasnici
idk man, I study English with specialization in linguistics and it took me a few seconds that being said, I almost took Media/Gender Studies so I digress
The funny thing is, that they later on talked in Crab Game about it and 5up said that they had this conversation about vowels irl, when he was in the UK, but Ellum forgot it.
I’m going to refuse to believe this
I can't wait for Ellum to learn English as a first language.
Apollo is going to explode lmao
Keep talking and Dumbdog explodes
We disavow him as a Brit, you lot can have him
he wouldnt know disavow means
Disavowel, disnotavowel
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i think he’ll fit nicely in with the americans to be honest
@@lel_nd that is the question
For anyone wondering why Y isn’t just always considered a vowel-it has to do with something called articulation and phonetics. All the vowel pronunciations of A E I O U can be done without using your tongue, lips, teeth, hard palate, soft palate (velum), or alveolar ridge (the bony ridge behind your teeth). Consonant sounds are formed using each of those things. Vowels are formed by the shape of your mouth/oral cavity. Y, on the other hand, would be considered a consonant, because it’s a palatal sound (/j/-our tongue just barely meets the roof of our mouth to form the sound). However, in some words, like the word “why”, it’s not making its typical Y sound (/j/ as in *Y*ellow). It’s creating a vowel sound (/ai/). Y is only sometimes a vowel, because it can be articulated as a consonant or as a vowel. Tbh it’s actually considered a vowel in most words that have a Y and another vowel, as long as it’s not the first letter. English is weird -your friendly neighborhood SLP :)
Thank you :)
Came to the comments to make sure someone already made the distinction. I enjoyed my linguistics class a bit too much.
I remember being mindblown when I heard this. In my native language y is always a vowel and in my 3rd language it never is
What’s it mean if my tongue doesn’t touch for either way of saying it lmao 😂
@@briarchoi31 your tongue doesn’t necessarily ‘touch’ your hard palate when making the consonant Y sound. For me, the sides of my tongue touch my upper teeth, and it’s the shape between the tongue and the hard palate that make the noise. If your tongue fully touched your hard palate, you’d be making a nasal sound. For the vowel Y sound, your tongue doesn’t interact with anything, it just changes shape within your mouth to make the sound :) hope this helps!
Friends teaching friends words, can't get more wholesome than that
At this point i don't even know if he's trolling or not
Nice to see that he still does the lips when he drinks
c for cteve
S for sib
A for Allum deeznuts
Oh wait sorry I forgot vowels don't exist
he's a himbo he's just a himbo you can't tell me he's not a himbo
ellum is a twitch streamer, it checks out
2:10 dumdog forgets a vowel, while explaining what the vowels are… oh damn
I thought so too but he actually says o just got eaten by the u. Most of us in chat thought like you as well.
He definitely missed the o 😂
he got it the second time though
I think it was more of a stutter than forgetting.
Literally the first thing you learn in kindergarten
i didn’t even learn vowels in regular schooling, i learnt the vowels through other language studies in primary school lol
good old a ha ka ma na pa ra ta wa nga wha
I dont think i've laughed at something harder
im literally serbian and i know what vowels are
I mean... there are vowels and consonants in every language, si it doesn't matter
@@alexo.o3729 what I meant is I know they’re called vowels and consonants in english, it took me a bit longer to remember it, in serbian they’re called samoglasnici and suglasnici
This is extra funny because south Slavic languages are famous for being very conservative with their vowels
He has to know what vowels are because he knows Y is a substitute, but I'll bet Ellum did Media Studies at university because he is not a smart boy.
I have reported your comment for hate speech, on behalf of everyone who studied media/journalism/film at university.
@@notacaulkhead Lmao
ellum has a gender studies degree.
idk man, I study English with specialization in linguistics and it took me a few seconds
that being said, I almost took Media/Gender Studies so I digress
Deeeeeeefinitely a joke, for suuuuure, for reaaaal, it’s totaaaaally a bit
This Isn't Real
no fucking way 💀
He's LYING
i hope
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Visos šalys priklauso Albanijai, jūsų teiginys yra klaidingas.
@@CrCrown Austrai yra tikrieji Albanijos paveldėtojai, tyrinėja noricum illyrians