MONEY MOVES- Neal Adams Negotiated A 1200% Increase In His Design Fee For Tim Drake's ROBIN Costume

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  • @Dom_510
    @Dom_510 3 роки тому +122

    Gotta give credit where its due, it’s easily the best robin costume.

    • @zednotzee
      @zednotzee 3 роки тому +11

      yeah this is the Robin of my youth. I chose to dress as Robin for Halloween in 1993, instead of Batman.

  • @jameswhite3799
    @jameswhite3799 3 роки тому +56

    I know you meant Kickass...but the only thing I could think at the time of the slip-up was.
    "Hi, I am Mark Millar and this is Jackass!"
    *Cue theme song*

  • @Khan.WrathOf
    @Khan.WrathOf 3 роки тому +99

    If this happened 4000 years ago, Neal would've existed in the cultural zeitgeist as an elder god. Full stop. Tales would be told of the man who turned 1200 ducats into 12,000.

  • @Khan.WrathOf
    @Khan.WrathOf 3 роки тому +69

    Neal missed his calling as an FBI hostage negotiator.

  • @ChadTownsend
    @ChadTownsend 3 роки тому +21

    Back when I was 19. My boss. Owner of several comic shops in Austin took me to Big Apple con. While there he hands me a pile of Tom Lyle Robin original art pages. Talking... whole issues of art. My boss says “take these to Tom Lyle and have him sign all these pages.”Tom’s eyes about pop out of his head. Asks me how I had all these pages. I just said. “ my dad bought em for me” he says “you must have one rich dad” 😆😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @danee9647
    @danee9647 3 роки тому +22

    And at the opposite end of the spectrum, the designer for the costumes in the birds of prey movie should have to give back whatever they were paid.

    • @tezmard3003
      @tezmard3003 3 роки тому +4

      I could design better costumes than those schmucks, and I ain’t even a competent artist

    • @baohweeb6935
      @baohweeb6935 3 роки тому

      @@eastlynburkholder3559 they did a bad job

  • @Khan.WrathOf
    @Khan.WrathOf 3 роки тому +47

    Design fees are all over the board. It's really hit or miss. It relies on the client, the artist, the artist's level of depression, the price of tea in China, the average rainfall of the amazon basin, the rate of tread wear on car tires in in the northeast....

    • @tezmard3003
      @tezmard3003 3 роки тому +1

      Marvel rely on Alex Ross atm for redesigns

  • @ninjabreadman8166
    @ninjabreadman8166 3 роки тому +44

    Chad move from Neil Adams, who didn't even have to punch anyone out or call anyone a demon! :D

  • @isaytheenay5961
    @isaytheenay5961 3 роки тому +17

    Technically, that's an 1100% increase. 1000 would be 0% increase. 1500 a 50% increase. 2000 = 100% increase. 3000 a 200% increase. Etc...
    It's 1200% of the price. But an 1100% increase over the original (100%) price.

  • @Linkovich_Chomofski
    @Linkovich_Chomofski 3 роки тому +5

    So it's finally official. I just got emails for the cancelation of my preorders for New Warriors 1,2 and 3. Along with the amazing Mary Jane 7, 8 and 9.

  • @DeusNyx
    @DeusNyx 3 роки тому +6

    Neal Adams dark, gritty art doesn't compare to; Nubia Real one!😁😁😁

  • @kyleweaver2578
    @kyleweaver2578 3 роки тому +11

    Neal Adams is a beast

  • @ViperChief117
    @ViperChief117 3 роки тому +23

    That’s a pretty sick looking costume. I’m not going to lie.

  • @focusedonfuture3255
    @focusedonfuture3255 3 роки тому +2

    Met Neil several times and am blessed with a copy of Batman #200 personalized and signed for me.
    Stand up guy who fought for the creators of Superman to get created by credits on the 1st Superman movie (1978) and for them to get a pension.

  • @jenshinde4780
    @jenshinde4780 3 роки тому +21

    "Everybody want go heaven. Nobody want dead." - Screwface.

  • @gusd41
    @gusd41 3 роки тому +23

    Wait someone used logic to get ahead in the comic industry and didn’t use emotional blackmail?

  • @artmin100
    @artmin100 3 роки тому +2

    From the perspective of a creator, designer, anything is up for negotiation, but the rule of thumb is to charge based on the client, I would demand a hell of a lot more from DC/Marvel than some dude struggling to get his dream off the ground.

  • @Andrew-fq7pu
    @Andrew-fq7pu 3 роки тому +6

    The best redesign of Robin's costume was drawn by Walt Simonson in "The Last Batman Story", in Batman 300 in 1978, with a grown up Dick Grayson in long pants. You've seen it & slight variants of it dozens of times now, including in Kingdom Come.

    • @baohweeb6935
      @baohweeb6935 3 роки тому +1

      Cool,tough kinda Funny the Last Batman story not Being actually the Last one

  • @Magazanga
    @Magazanga 3 роки тому +9

    Id like a jawbreakers art book

  • @robfleming6802
    @robfleming6802 3 роки тому +7

    Zachary said jackass but meant kickass

  • @killingcarrots
    @killingcarrots 3 роки тому +9

    Just go Stan Lee and say draw a Jawbreaker and hope they don't go drawing candy

  • @chrissawyer1484
    @chrissawyer1484 3 роки тому +1

    There were three Robin Miniseries.
    The first one where he trained.
    2nd one was "The Joker's Wild" that bad the most number of different covers with the Holograms in it (which were also sold in a polybag issue group that had a hologram card in it, and the deluxe slipcase edition that had EVERY cover and the cards.)
    3rd one was "Cry of the Huntress" that had two different covers per issue. A regular cover and a "motion" cover in a polybag.
    Fun times!

  • @josephadorno92
    @josephadorno92 3 роки тому +6

    Adams can't write, but he knows how to score a deal. Neal "The Deal" Adams.

  • @samuelyawful
    @samuelyawful 3 роки тому +2

    It's one of the most iconic Robin costumes of all time, a lot of times they flashback to Dick Grayson or Jason Todd wearing some version of Tim's costume
    I think it's cause the short shorts are one of the decisions DC doesnt like to dwell too much upon haha

  • @thomasleung2199
    @thomasleung2199 3 роки тому +10

    Ah damn, there should be a finance test I should study for but yaboi just released a new video.

  • @SimonJohnOwen
    @SimonJohnOwen 3 роки тому +8

    Not first - Humanity First !

  • @polverine7491
    @polverine7491 3 роки тому +4

    I wish I could afford a art piece or a commission from Neal Adams :/

  • @andrewt6338
    @andrewt6338 3 роки тому +3

    I'm not sure where to start. You are all over the place. I do think Steve Skroce and the Battle Chaser guy dropped comics for design work.
    I love the Robin costume. It didn't age well. But the color scheme... yes. Red, yellow and green. That works. That's solid. George Perez is a great artist. But his design for Nightwing or Jericho... not feeling that. Color matters. I like Vic Stone and Beast Boy, but visually they are boring. It's a robot guy and a green boy.
    Something I like is the original X-men uniforms. They look weird and different. Almost like a cult or something. The FF had a similar vibe. This is a group. You get it automatically.
    I talk a lot about Green Arrow in the Chuck Dixon days, but Connor and his father did wear the same suit, which wasn't especially super hero ish. It was more practical. But it worked. It's a ground level guy.
    Batman, I love how Jim Aparo drew him. That color scheme just hits me. Making his costume all black is boring although it makes more sense. I miss the capsule belt, even though the Miller pouch version made more sense. It's Batman. It doesn't have to make sense.

  • @simonbarnett8668
    @simonbarnett8668 3 роки тому +2

    Love these Money Matters type vids

  • @JoeLeasure
    @JoeLeasure 3 роки тому +1

    That design fee was almost like payback for Neal since he probably got a lot less than he was worth early on.

  • @yutz2109
    @yutz2109 3 роки тому

    I remember tons of merch my older brother got based on the '89 Batman film - A poster, trading cards, a hotwheels car, and some candy which came out of a little plastic Batman bust, just to name a few.

  • @scotscovenanter
    @scotscovenanter 3 роки тому

    This is a great rundown for other industries. We need to negotiate more. The worst thing they'll say is no.

  • @DIOBrando-ij2bp
    @DIOBrando-ij2bp 3 роки тому +1

    That story kind of makes me think of No Country For Old Men
    m.ua-cam.com/video/riyC8AJNQZs/v-deo.html
    This is the best Robin. Looking at those designs, and how big the R logo is, made me think of the Thrillkillers Robin...which is also a great Robin redesign. Almost surprised they didn’t have him do Batman too, because that new Robin costume instantly makes that blue Batman look old.

  • @stunsisacul
    @stunsisacul 3 роки тому +2

    I’m scooping up so much stuff in the market right now at a discount. It’s all safe boomer stocks and defense contractors but as long as he doesn’t tank it completely and imma be ok. But , damn it’s like he’s trying though.

  • @guyfawkes5291
    @guyfawkes5291 3 роки тому +1

    Lol . And sleepy Joe still misses with a blunder bust🤣🤣🤣. But would be good to see Jawbreakers, ironsights on the big screen . Could the our boi Zac be the next Todd McFarlane 👍👍👍👍

  • @The_Burning_Sensation
    @The_Burning_Sensation 3 роки тому

    Neal knows how to negotiate with those damned golems.

  • @falleneldor
    @falleneldor 3 роки тому

    I'd been having my Superpowers Joker beat my toybiz "jason todd" to death a with a lego crowbar untill his karate chop arm fell off for a couple years...Beating a dead robin stops being fun after a couple years.
    Then the sky light up, the signal (aka my batman flashlight) was answered. This time, the shadows didn't go away, they hugged the bright colors even closer then ever before.
    In 1992, Kenner gave us new generation a Robin we could make our own. Thank you one again Neil Adams.

  • @DareToWonder
    @DareToWonder 3 роки тому

    OK so recently i commissioned a design of a sword for an fantasy RPG game im making and it was a cheap 25$. However the sword proved to be so complicated that it was bumped up to 50$. But man is it worth it!

  • @xxCablexx
    @xxCablexx 3 роки тому

    great video and insightful, would love to see some tips on finding an artist and hiring them to do a book

  • @executiveproducersolliebow5048
    @executiveproducersolliebow5048 3 роки тому

    Could the first film from Splatto Corp. be "Emily in Paris . . . With a Vengeance" please? Thank you!

  • @ultimatekunochi6577
    @ultimatekunochi6577 3 роки тому +1

    Where do they actually use the design?

  • @paulstilwell9973
    @paulstilwell9973 3 роки тому

    Random question: do we know if Todd Mcfarlane is doing a new Sam and Twitch comic as part of his Spawn Universe?
    Props to Adams for getting his worth! He’s a legend! Artists always have to fight to get their due, just like the Inage guys and Adam’s did!
    And does anyone know if Neal does his own comics? He would get my money for a crowd project!

  • @DonVigaDeFierro
    @DonVigaDeFierro 3 роки тому

    When you roll a nat 20 on a charisma check.

  • @arturoalvarezkawai6773
    @arturoalvarezkawai6773 3 роки тому +1

    Thinks have indeed changed, Zack. Now these days, if you want to get a raise, you just accuse your company or boss of bigotry and throw them to the Twitter-mob.

  • @PedroLaraSalazar
    @PedroLaraSalazar 3 роки тому

    So an artists was asking you money for his desings... how dares?!? "that never happens in comics before!" ... well, the way crowdfunding is exploding never happened before, things may change a little in the future.

  • @petercharron187
    @petercharron187 3 роки тому +1

    DC must be incredibly desperate, hahaha 🤣😂🤣

  • @brianlott5365
    @brianlott5365 3 роки тому +7

    Never call Biden president.

    • @connordorman117
      @connordorman117 3 роки тому +6

      Come on man... he’s y’know the thing...he’ll do a push-up competition to prove it.

  • @erocshivoni
    @erocshivoni 3 роки тому

    Robin looks about 40

  • @murbly
    @murbly 3 роки тому

    *talking about the economy but ignoring that the orange man was bad.
    C'mon Zack you're gonna go to social credit debtor jail if you keep this up.
    Unrelated: Very specific negotiation instance:
    Marvel: That's a nice Venom you got there Todd, sure would be a shame if something were to happen to it..

  • @shurue8628
    @shurue8628 3 роки тому +5

    It's funny how you mention that everyone wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die while also coming up with excuses for why your projects aren't making as much money as they used to. It's one thing if you don't want to do livestreams anymore, but this is just embarrassing.