Why I left Jamaica🇯🇲 and move to the 🇺🇸 United States. The untold story.
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- This is the story of why I left Jamaica 🇯🇲 and moved to the USA 🇺🇸.
Once you know I am Cuban you are probably thinking” yep I expected that” but my reasons were very different from what your expectations are.
I cried so much on that flight to Florida the day left. I felt like I was failing Jamaica 🇯🇲. I think this is why today I do all that is in my power to enhance our beautiful island.
Let me know in the comments which of my reasons resonated with you the most.
Thank you all so so much for watching
Mucho Love 🤗❤️
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Totally agree that the Cubans in Florida and those living in Cuba are totally different . I have been to Cuba and was greatly surprised to see how much warmer those in Cuba were. Glad you went back to Jamaica girl . Quality of life is much better, I lived in the US for 46 years and moved back to Jamaica 2 years ago. I feel extremely comfortable here. Here I’m just a woman and not a black woman. I’m not judged by the color of my skin. That sense of belonging overrides all minor negatives that some people complain about.
Girl, speak your truth jamaican here so I know. Thank God you and your family are well.
@@dorothyennis9285 thanks so much for your support 🤗❤️
I understand the mental effects of violence in society. The fear of crime is greater than incidence of crime itself. That's why the costs of high crime rate to society is so great. The loss of life and property is bad enough but the wider effects such as mental health defects of the nation is extremely damaging.
This definitely should be pinned 📌 “the fear of crime is greater than crime itself” noting but facts 👌
Anytime it becomes normal to see unalike people, experience gun violence or just criminal behavior on a whole it’s bad. Growing up in the late seventies through the eighties in Jamaica turned into an introvert. I don’t live there anymore; but I have never been able to shake it completely. I go out for work, to get things I need; but I would never socialize. It took years for me to realize it’s from all the things I saw, heard and years of constant fear that brought me to this. I know I am not the only one. Thanks for sharing your story sis.
Thanks for sharing. Your mental health and safety is very important. I'm glad you took the steps to address that. Your stories are inspiring, I can sit and listen to you talk for hours.
Wow!!! You have been through a lot and until you've said it no one would know. You are a very strong woman and I believe your family is blessed to have such dynamic, innovative, resilient, and passionate wife and mother. I'm a Jamaican living in UK and experienced some of the things you've been through and I have done business at your Lane plaza store before. I lived in Kingston 8 and had 2 cars stolen from my home, plants, dog, fish and just about everything stolen. It's like being targeted and the house was burgled also. You have handled it all very well and I truly admire the way you confidently relate you life story so others can learn from you experience. The Book next 😅 BTW!! I want to know all about your drinking hot water and other healthy tips. I assume there are health benefits to it. Mucho love
Thank you so much for your kind loving words. I really appreciate it. I also experience thieves in Kgn6 plants, chair, garden hose 😂 could not leave anything outside and they tried to brake into the house 3 different occations😂 but still we deh yah same way 🙂 thanks for watching, mucho love ❤
@@Florkubana Remain strong 💪🏾 ❤️
I lived in the U.S. for 11 years, though I spent the last year traveling full-time to 14 countries. I've been to over 20 countries on every continent except Oceania (that will change next month). Jamaica is no more dangerous than anywhere I've been including the U.S. and countries in South America and Africa. I moved back to Jamaica this year and I can't think of a time when I felt afraid. If you're not in any conflict with anyone and you don't hang out at certain places (e.g., bars), you will almost always be safe in Jamaica.
Well said.
You cannot minimize one’s experience. In general this is true however she has had experiences that has scared her resulting I. Somatic responses . One has to prod what’s best for themselves
@@nursejessalthea She had her experience but was also stating what Jamaica is like instead of what it was like for her.
Good for you. No place like home!
People always think that once you get a chance to leave Jamaica your life will improve. My experience being thrust into the migration life was a tragedy.
Anxiety killing alote of Jamaican. and they dare not talk about it. All yuh wi hear .."a mad yuh a mad out" Ppl go in church just to separate from society not for salvation. trust and believe.
Thank goodness now they are paying more attention to mental health in Jamaica there is recognition and support. I really look forward to better days
I AM A JAMAICAN AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AN IT IS TRUE. U R VERY NICE LADY. 🇯🇲🇯🇲
@@cabediarobinson5698 thank you so much for your kind words ❤️
I admire your resilience and your commitment to self healing. Your husband and yourself is a great example of love and support for those looking on. All the best to you and continue to share these very inspiring stories.
What a beautiful take. I really admire your capacity to read deeply into a story. Thank you so much ❤️🤗 all the best to you and yours ❤
I think context is everything and that is why she shared what her experience was like in a country with very low crime before coming to Jamaica. Many of us in Jamaica have been privileged to not have to deal personally with any meaningful level of crime or violence, but we can't deny 1. The reality of it and 2. That different people will be affected differently by any experience they have had here. Personally, for me, nowhere nu better than yard to me and no matter where I go, I will always come back home. And I believe you can be safe here and live relatively comfortable. However, I can also understand when someone's experience could seriously affect their ability to function well. Flora, I am glad you returned home and I really hope you are able to feel more comfortable now and have been able to, over the years, experience the other side of Jamaicans - kindness, community, beauty and love that exists.
As people start talk about their experience with crime in Jamaica you have some of us getting up in our feelings about it. The reality is something wrong with our country, I’ve never been anywhere in the US and feel unsafe like how I feel in Jamaica. Those in the comments talking about stereotypes and comparing it to the US don’t know what they talking bout. Voilence is everywhere but the magnitude and how it directly impact you is different. Been here for year and I’ve never directly experienced any form of voilence, compared to Jamaica where you see it everyday!!!
You don't know what you are talking about either. There are many reasons Jamaica is safer than the USA. You can use your common sense or the internet and find out why. While homicide, a specific type of crime, is prevalent in Jamaica, usually due to gang activities or being involved in the wrong things, most other crime isn't. What's even funny is that you are 3 times more likely to be attacked in the USA than Jamaica, however 3 times more likely to survive those attacks in the USA. This is the reason why its homicide rate is lower than Jamaica, because then it's classed as another type of crime.
For 20 years the homicides are past 1000 every year, for a small population. Even the worst cities in the US don't have that many even with a larger population. Jamaica is too small to be having that much.
It is very sad that my experience caused so much trouble and distress I was just answering a question honestly I could not come here and say I left Jamaica cus it too hot 😂 like these were my reasons and I even did not tell the time a guy got murdered I front of me 😢
Yes, Jamaica has a problem that needs to be resolved but I assume you must have lived in a slum like March Pen Rd or Jarett Lane to be talking like every single day you’re in Jamaica you feel like danger is near. I can name you about 20 different communities that you can live in a Jamaica that is super peaceful, I can never understand comments like this that make it seem like every corner and crevice in Jamaica is filled with criminals wielding fire arms and there’s no area that is free of crime.
Your stories are always so great to listen to and even your “bad” stories always have good endings
Glad you like them! It means a lot ❤
I moved from Jamaica to New York city and I can say I adapt easy because it's just like Kingston just more buildings and subways but the violence and excitement people facey as hell just like Kingston and you gotta be careful of your surroundings
I understand Flor. I am Jamaican and had a similar experience and had to force myself to heal mentally. Despite that, I love my country. Thanks for loving our/your Jamaica too. ❤
So true about the constant anxiety in Jamaica…
One day all will be better 🙏🏾❤️🇯🇲
Yet when I'm in the USA I am so aware that someone can unalive me due to my race yet in Jamaica I don't. Unless you are in a volatile area, there is no constant anxiety.
@@NativeNomad10When they die in U.S they keep quiet and don't say nothing
@@NativeNomad10 hmm … it still depends on on area with racial hatred… but in Jamaica it’s jus bad mind n poverty
@@brobro6783 Exactly so, the amount of Jamaicans that were unalive this year in the US is alarming. Irie did a vidoe on how the media like TVJ helps to destroy Jamaica, you should check it out. All they cover is crime in Jamaica while crime is barely cover by other countries media.
Blessings. Your conversation are so refreshing and motivational..Great pleasure of you sharing your experiences through your journey. Gracias.
I have a very similar experience.. so I understand why you had to move away. The difference between our stories is that I didn’t move back, and I didn’t move to the US. I just couldn’t stay in Ja. I have to live where I’m happy, and where I feel safe
I am so sorry you went trough that😢 I went to the US cus it was where I had family. Where did you go to?
I really enjoy the story and it also highlights the benefits and challenges of living in Jamaica.
Love your energy n personality Flora!🫶🏽one love
Blessings, dont apologize for sharing your experience. Many of us are not comfortable home. I have been all over the world and although you are aware of crime i am never as mindful as vehen I am in Ja. People are quick to compare Jamaica to other US cities but the fail to acknowledge that many of these places has a lot more people.
Thank you so much for your compassion and understanding. I honestly did not say FL was safer it was just the place I had family at other than Cuba.
Respect 🇯🇲💐🔥
Those situations are scary. Thank God you have never been hurt.
@@geneivemorris5039 I have been lucky 🤗❤️
Welcome to Jamrock ,, Respect 🇯🇲💐🔥
I love all your openness.
@@claudmair1019 I am so happy you got me🤗❤️
This is a very beautiful she his a beautiful spirit about her also..
❤thank you so so much for the love ❤️
I think it’s clear that you experienced trauma! Period..ptsd is real. So this is not abt violence in Jamaica bec when I went to Cuba I saw two men fighting and one get stab up! This was in 2016. The. In NY 1987 upon arriving I saw was a “mugging “ was…right before my eyes and the assailant had a knife. In Miami my neighbor’s house (next to mine) was shot up that was my first time ever hitting the floor and not because I’m dancing. I’ve traveled all over and each of those experiences, after having my ptsd moment, I realized that it was “all over”. What u speak of sounds a bit deeper than just what you experienced but maybe you suffered from anxiety on a whole. I’m sure it shows up with or without violence. I’m glad you got the help you needed. In life we can’t pretend like we live in utopia bec we don’t. Stay alert and practice mindfulness. ❤
Yea ..Georgia nice but is not a bed of roses ..Everybody have a gun it seems so every day smaddy get shot ..Like the wild wild west ..Fraid fi go gas station cause is desso de gun bwoy dem love fi shoot out .. Jamaica can ruff sometimes but Georgia ruffa wid de gun ..I'm always at ease when I'm at home but always have a 3rd eye out
Yes Flor. I can tell you my crazy story too. But this kind of crisis was happening since 2000 and I learned it was related to the many many deportees being dumped back in JA. It came out in one of the Jamaican newspapers explaining what was happening. That’s why when I saw a content creator from Israel seeing a homeless man with his hands dismembered and he didn’t want to tell the story of why it happened I felt like I already knew.
As a Jamaican I understand . I live in Switzerland and whenever I visit Jamaica I can't relax .Too much emphasis on my security, hence when I get back to work in Switzerland I'm stressed and tired. I went out with my friends and my phone battery died .I couldn't call my family , when I get home I saw a lot of people at my mom house house. They was so concerned for my security and safety ..Jamaica is a stressful place to live with the crime situation.
Jah know, sorry you had to experience those things, very sorry
Beautiful sister
Thank you so much
I never got robbed in Jamaica. I got robbed in America.
🇬🇧 born and coming from a country were if you commit a crime the liklihood is you'll be caught and sentence. Especially if it's a major crime, to a country where criminals seemed to escape justice. When I first travelled to jamaica I was young and stupid, did all sorts of mad things like walking the streets at midnight trying to get a cab home after partying etc. I had no fear then. This was the 1990s. (yes am old) the hight of the violence in jamaica. As a visitor I have only ever experience one incident were we where followed and almost robbed. That's when I stopped going to Jamaica. After a gap of 5 years I missed the island and have been coming back ever since. I completely understand your anxiety as I do have friends and relatives who will not go to Jamaica on a visit. And other friends and relatives who have moved to live in Jamaica.
Please tell us about your culture shocks moving to the US. 🇬🇧
I grew up in the country and when visiting Kingston I would see robbers holding up people with knives and guns on maxfield bus. When I live north Arnold Road I was on our Varandah and next thing I saw gunshots firing on the road in front. I had to jump through the window, a nail on the window board ripped my stomach . The stress and fear of constantly having to look over my shoulders I couldn’t wait to leave
Flor:
Your experiences are beautifully narrated! I can empathize with you having bouts of cranial tension from the experience of living in Kingston: I have had similar experiences having lived in Mona Heights (Kingston), in the far-flung past, in excess of a period before you arrived in Jamaica. The infamous Keith (Trinity) Gardener--police officer--stopped me on the street where I lived (Gardenia Drive), and he asked me for a search of my nice British-made bag. I attempted to give him the bag. He insisted that I hold the bag with the zipper undone. Upon seeing my blue-cover bible (KJV) atop my clothes in the bag, Trinity recoiled and expressed that I close the bag. He hastened to ride away on his motorcycle. Trinity and I crossed virtual paths on Facebook a few years ago. I rehashed the story to him by direct messaging. He responded with a coyed assertion: may be cowering because my Facebook profile depicts me in US-Military uniform?
Moving from Spanish Town to the Bronx was 10% less violent lol
😂😂😂 I should not be laughing. My store in Oasis Plaza has to close early and sometimes can’t even open cus of violence 😢right now I am closing Mandeville at 5:30 cus of a 6 pm curfew 😢
@Florkubana that's so sad. My cousin (Donnett Merchant) was the girl who died in the Mandeville market shooting
One time a party I gave this one guy a dance (I was young and intoxicated) and since then everytime he saw me at a party he would grab my hand and hold onto it tightly no matter how many times I told him no. These men feel entitled to us. Jamaica can be a very scary place.
@FlorKubana, Curious to hear you finish that statment about Cubans in Florida.
It would be interesting to hear the differences? I suppose you didn't want to generalize.
Yea, you chopped off that statement really quickly
That is for another post for sure the video was too long already 😅
I do understand your sentiment.i have been outside of Jamaica for a very long time and I’m about to go back very soon for a visit and it’s like I’m having anxiety base on what I’m seeing.Especially since I’m in a country where there’s no crime ,no guns …just live!! I’m thinking how I’m going to function effectively and normal…
When you go back you will realize that most of what is online is over exaggeration. Most if Jamaica parishes are still very much safe.
Thanks for sharing @30:49 lyrics sing tune my girl!!
I have co workers 3 years ago almost drive me crazy the symptoms she talk about sleeplessness etc. Anxiety name it . Test upon test hundreds of thousands of dollars until i get to see another consultant off hope road he said your surroundings his killing you not any sickness . Now i know how people i now called enemies almost wreck me
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That is so scary he was stalking you... obsessed 😮😮😮
IKR 😞 it was very stressing specially since I just arrived from Cuba
@@Florkubana Yepp I live in US and my ex husband stalking me for 7 years and 2 months breaking into my home and car and stealing any and everything...😷😷I had to get a g*n...he takes all my clothing so I have nothing to wear and have to constantly be purchasing clothing...had my clothing for 4 years and brought them back when they couldn't fit me...put cameras he broke them...psycho
@@Care-o9i OMG 😱 I couldn’t manage that you are strong
@@Florkubana Yepp but ready with my matic...I had to put a big clock behind the door and I have alarms but he picks the locks...bipolar psycho narc...and says he was a Christian come to find out he is a Freemason and warlock works bm...almost unalived me with that but GOD protected and he is Jamaican from Old Harbor...
@@Florkubana Yepp I am strong but it takes a toll with anxiety and fear...so called Christian found out he was a Freemason warlock sent death magic to unalive me he and his narc woman...I could not sleep at nights for years and he broke a lot of stuff and damaged stuff he was very evil!
Flor, i ❤ your story.
24:36 -No more Cuban Adjustments Law ..happy for you when you got it
My husband is a gem 🤣
Jamaica has seen some very hard years, but it would be difficult to find a country in the hemisphere that doesn't have violence and extreme poverty.
In some countries there are even guerilla movements.
I can see how you be traumatized because of where you were going from. You're experienced was horrible but saying Jamaica was the "murdered capital of the world" was a bit much since you didn't live in all 14 parishes but only in Kingston. Cubans had what you called "wetfoot" as long as a Cuban put there foot on US soil,they get residency. I find the Cubans in Cuba much nicer than the ones in Miami. I've never experienced crime in Jamaica but I did more than once in the US where I live for 38 years. I was all over Jamaica this past May, in the streets of Kingston around 1-2 in the morning buying jerk chicken with about 10 of my family members, in May Pen, Manchester, Portland, Ochi, Mobay and no issues. Jamaica have violence yes but no more than anywhere else. Have you been to parts of Chicago, Atlanta Miami New York, Connecticut. and Newark New Jersey where shooting in churches, schools, playgrounds etc, very scary. I can't wait to leave here and come back to Jamaica....Big up land mi love, East West North or South, no wey no betta dan yaad❤️🇯🇲
Me glad it was an Indian looking man that went after you and not one of us. Sorry you had that experience still.
I understand where you are coming from but it won’t be any worst if it was 😢
Crime in Jamaica yes the police need to be on top of it start work to proven crime intervention before the crime committed because Jamaica is small everyone here about the crime it gives all of us anxiety even though crime don't trouble me where I live because I love my country it's worrying every time I herd a innocent child died I cried I have to turn off the news take a break from the internet it taking it's told on me I was depressing I have to stop for my mental health
Maybe you should watch the news less because Jamaica media spend more time reporting on crime than actually the good things happening in Jamaica. It's funny you claim that it doesn't affect you but watching the news give you that belief. Irie did a video on how the media is destroying Jamaica with this because no other countries do this. If America was to report on every crime in their country, then they wouldn't have enough minutes in the day to report on it.
I have to do the same. I cry so much it affects me still specially when I see so many children missing too 😢I am sorry this affects you sending you love and strength
@@NativeNomad10is true they overdo the crime reporting
KMT, there are several people in the usa unalive by stalkers and have faced stalking. If your husband wasnt involved in illegal activities or was living a dangerous life, all you mentioned sound foreign. While Jamaica have volatile areas (Ghetto), most of Jamaica isnt volatile and actually has a community setting. Something isnt adding up, especially with those anxiety attacks you were having. What did you people get yourselves into?
I invite you to watch this video again and while you do remember I am Cuban I was 20 to 23 yrs old when this happened and I had NO family it was just my husband and I. I was learning a language, a culture, a country away from my home. I am sad I was not able to transmit my message clearly cus I did say “ you can go your entire life and nothing happened to you directly”
And I went back to Jamaica I don’t know many ppl who have done that leave and comeback. 😢 boy ah really saddened by your take.
When you are targeted the best thing is to leave
Sorry you had to leave!
No worries I have been back for years ❤
So do you have American citizenship now?
I’m not going lie in America I’m afraid to go to movie theaters supermarket and dropping my son to school. Last month town shut down schools for 2 days because of a mass shoo…. Threat.
If anybody know bout stalking and obsessed while living Jamaica, I can tell you I went through it, but I because me facety and nuh fraid ah nuh baddy I used to cuss everyone of them out & they would leave me alone. YUH HAFFI GWAAN LIKE YUH MADDA THAN DEM! 😉😉😉😉
The thing that would grieve me are the gropers. The man dem that always want to touch you as you walking by. Even in school, I had to slap the shit out of so many. I was relieved when I came to America because although it may happen here, it is rare because of the laws. The few times it was ever done here, it was by Jamaicans who once again I had to gwaan dutty wid and warn dem I will bring a case against them!
When you show these john crow that yuh fraid ah dem, they feed off of it! Now it was exhausting, so when mi tell yuh I had to pray and almost end up ah obeah man 😂😂😂😂 Prayers were answered instead when mi couldn't manage, plus mi know some people to 😉😉😉
Good ole pepper spray & taser pon dem!
*BUT GOD PREVAILED!*
Cuban 🇨🇺 JAMAICAN 🇯🇲now 🫶🏿
You are serious, but funny. Some Bwoy nuh know this an only come around like tourist (Junior Gong)... 😆
Your videos are always interesting and holds the attention. Keep them coming.
Jamaica is paradise...but there's just too much killing
But when Jamaicans are killed in other countries, y'all don't say nothing
Tums ⬆️
Did you gain citizenship in the usa
Yeah
@Florkubana being a utuber as well i love your videos🎉🎉🎉❤
Yes, sometimes she takes a little too long before she gets fo the point.
😂😂😂😂😂 you have to build the momentum 😅
What happened to the Indian guy?
Never saw him again
Hold on deh Flor have lyrics around the 30:55 Mark. 🤣😂🤣 Ah which song dat again?!
Are you still living in Jamaica?
I said so at the beginning 😂
She mentioned that she was in the video
I wouldn’t imagine that Florida is less dangerous than Jamaica, with everyone in the USA having guns! I think you are buying into the negative stereotype and making Jamaica out to be worse than it is. I know many people who have lived in Jamaica for many years and have had no problem. Jamaica is not unique when it comes to violence - it happens everywhere!
in 2022 1100 persons were murdered in Florida out of a population on 22 million.
Jamaica in 2022, had 1500 murders out of a population of 2.8 million.
THE SUBJECT MATTER IS JAMAICA, FOCUS AND BE HONEST. JAMAICA IS A VIOLENT PLACE , THE JAMAICAN GOVERNMENT HAVE BEEN A FAILURE ON EVERY METRIC, ESPECIALLY CRIME AND VIOLENCES. THE POLITICIANS ARE VERY LAZY HAVE NO LEADERSHIP SKILLS.
FOCUS, THE SUBJECT IF JAMAICA. BE HONEST JAMAICA IS VIOLENT, 1500 PLUS MURDERS A YEAR, NOT EVEN HAITI CREATE NUMBERS LIKE THAT.
Me, and my immediate family had to migrate to the U.S. because of the unaliving of my uncle who was like a father to me. This tragedy affected me greatly, because I never envisioned myself living in the U.S. and it was quite a difficult adjustment for me.
I lived in Jamaica all my life, left in 1978, which was one of the saddest days of my life. Prior to that late sixties early seventies, jamaica was relatively safe, yes there was an uptick in crime the mid to late seventies, but really escalated before I left. Yes crime exists in all areas of the world in the U.S. there are mass unalivings of people, but Jamaica being so small, the effects of crime was greatly felt.
If I were to return to Jamaica, it would have to be in a gated community and I would have to give this serious thought. Also, another concerning factor is the healthcare system which needs a complete overhaul.
Live in Jamaica ALL YOUR LIFE yet u leave so my question how many LIFE u have . People take up this up north talk which 😮😮😮😮😮
Btw: "Eskimo" is a racial slur....the people are called Inuit.
Oh my 😮my apologies I am so sorry I was just repeating a popular phrase I have heard a ton of times before. I will change the way I say it from now on I do not want to offend anyone 🙏🏾
@@Florkubana denada🙏
You no y because Cuba have no diplomatic. With the usa. Whre all the gun is coming from
Jamaica is freedom
Try to leave Cuba bk and forth like Jamaica
Jamaica is LOVE
V
Get to the point.. jesas
Take a deep breath you got this 🤗❤️
Morning Flor. It was like this man was waiting 4 you to land in Jamaica to be your stalker. How in the heck did he find you so fast? This is nuts and most definitely scary. Ptsd is no joke. I left Jamaica at age 13 and my experience was good. My ptsd happened much later in life. My house was broken into in 2017. The culprit [s] turned my house upside down. To this day, when I pull in my driveway, I surveil my yard before I exit my car. Then, the minute I open my door [house], I surveill the rooms that I can see, to make sure that they're the way I left them. Several years ago, I was almost carjacked. Thank goodness I locked my doors the 2nd I entered my car. To this day, I lock my doors so fast, that I always lock out the folks who are with me 😅. They believe I am overdoing it, but it's my experience not theirs. Thanks for sharing, Flor! Big ups, as always. Have a great weekend...
Thanks so much for sharing your story 😢 I am so sorry 😞 you had to go through all this sending you love and strength 🤗❤️
Do you have children?