Music Man vs. Sterling (featuring Chuck Bailey)

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 188

  • @AlexhPDX
    @AlexhPDX 3 роки тому +50

    The most noticeable difference to me was the difference in playing technique. You can tell Chris hits the strings a lot harder from the amount of attack and buzz while Chuck plays with a much softer touch

    • @rkimball6
      @rkimball6 3 роки тому +1

      Perhaps the action is too low for Chris’ style. My Musicman has a higher action and does not have the fret noise.

  • @Halfpastseven
    @Halfpastseven 3 роки тому +5

    Great comparison video! Thanks for doing this guys!!

  • @zachmetcalf556
    @zachmetcalf556 3 роки тому +2

    I enjoyed it guys thanks as always for another great vid 👍

  • @shuruff904
    @shuruff904 2 роки тому +30

    Sterling lets people afford a Stingray bass for (usually) less than 500$ . Love my minty baby sterling lol

    • @Eugensson
      @Eugensson Рік тому +2

      Not in Europe though. Sterlings are €1200+ here

    • @jakegilligan1432
      @jakegilligan1432 9 місяців тому

      Like Fender And Squier

    • @nesjo7777
      @nesjo7777 8 місяців тому

      Not in the UK, this is not in Europe….

    • @nesjo7777
      @nesjo7777 8 місяців тому

      Rattle, rattle, rattle…..

  • @FenderBassMan
    @FenderBassMan 3 роки тому +7

    I enjoy what I'm seeing on your channel, Chris, so thanks! I bought a SBMM Ray 35 about a year before this video because it delivered a sweet, punchy grunt/growl that I want in any bass I consider owning; it's the made in Korea version with a mahogany body and an amber quilted maple top and headstock. For performances, mine goes straight into a Quilter BB800 head into two Bugera 2x10" cabs. I've used this rig for six gigs since I bought it in late 2019, along with a Fender Aerodyne P/J, and was delighted with how the Ray 35 made its presence known. Imo, it's hard to go wrong with about any EBMM or SBMM instrument. Edit: My bass has a Made in Korea decal on the back of the headstock, btw.
    btw Marcelo Feldman is to blame for steering me in the offshore SBMM direction, so kudos to him and his channel.

    • @kevinlynch2248
      @kevinlynch2248 3 роки тому +1

      I have a 2020 SBMM Stingray Ray 35 too but mine was made in Indonesia and not in Korea. I love the feel and tone of these basses, especially given that cost around $1k after taxes.

  • @pensnut08
    @pensnut08 2 роки тому +4

    Man, I haven't played much bass since quitting my last band, but hearing these great tones has made me know how much I miss it.

  • @josensototorres7070
    @josensototorres7070 3 роки тому +4

    I love me Ray 35, sounds amazing!!!. Great video!! Love it

  • @Seanyexwest
    @Seanyexwest 2 роки тому +7

    I have both and I use them for different bands. I’ll always wanna play the Ernie ball over the sterling. Never realized about how big of a difference there was in almost every detail of feel until I bought the Ernie ball. Best bass I’ve ever owned.

    • @Slave10110
      @Slave10110 Рік тому +1

      I definitely agree. I used to have a Sterling Stingray 5 HH. Then I got a Musicman Stingray special H 4 string. Granted they are very different basses to begin with, but every single detail on the musicman just obliterated the Sterling. Don't get me wrong though. For what you're getting for the money spent Sterlings are amazing instruments, and they punch way above their price point. So if you're on a budget and cant hold out and save up for the musicman I couldn't give a better recommendation. Get a Sterling. I have a Dingwall NG-3 6 string now, so I have long sold my Sterling Stingray 5. Comparing apples and oranges again, but I like my Dingwall way more than my musicman lol. I'll never get rid of that Stingray though. If what I need is simplicity, as well as ultra slapability my musicman Stingray is the bass.

  • @SilentPrayingmanTis
    @SilentPrayingmanTis 3 роки тому +1

    Awsome😎. Thank you and God bless .

  • @Therealchuckbailey
    @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому +13

    Your comments are appreciated thanks everyone! Lots more videos coming soon!

  • @glennb3231
    @glennb3231 3 роки тому +4

    Compensated nut and steel frets also on the USA version plus a nice case. Also 18 volt (2 batteries) on the EBMM version. Lastly, much better customer service.

  • @scatered1
    @scatered1 3 роки тому +1

    Just found this channel and it's pretty great. I've got a 4 string Sterling

  • @patpompeo9354
    @patpompeo9354 2 роки тому

    I have recently got back into playing and the Stingray has always been on my wish list. I have been watching tons of videos describing both the EB and Sterling. This was by far the best I’ve seen with side by side comparison and some brutally honest commentary! I am looking for deal on one or both if I can find it. I know it’s a pipe dream lol. I’m going to try to find used EB and possibly a new Sterling I already have my eyes on one with an HH configuration. Well, thanks again!

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa 3 роки тому +2

    The control config is right on the StingRay 5 page. Forward is series, middle is series with a filter, and back is parallel, in the latest version. In older StingRay 5s, it was series, single (with a phantom coil), and parallel.

  • @riotchristianradio7779
    @riotchristianradio7779 2 роки тому

    I just ordered mine from sounds and can't wait to jam

  • @thiagodeandradeneves4585
    @thiagodeandradeneves4585 3 роки тому +6

    Good comparison. But yeah, we must comment that the american is a Stingray Special and the Ray35 is modeled after the previous model. That would be a fairer comparison.

  • @GhostFacedrummer
    @GhostFacedrummer 3 роки тому +18

    Came across your channel from your full album cover of Justice, wow! I’m a metal drummer and do covers as well...I think it would be a bass and drum collab! Let me know what you think🤘🤘

    • @rl-ub9hx
      @rl-ub9hx 3 роки тому

      Dude YOU KICK ASS!!! They absolutely should link up with you!

    • @joshbeast8599
      @joshbeast8599 3 роки тому

      Hell yea!🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @yngwerhappen
    @yngwerhappen 3 роки тому +4

    I have this Ray 35 and I love it. Very easy to play with this small neck. The strings are now very low and you fly over the strings. Great feel to play. With the Darkglass Vintage Deluxe and Subway 800+ I get more bite for a Myung / Harris Finger lover out of the Sterling. Sterling could make some better colors at the Ray 35 series ;-) Update with the ABM from Ashdown it is better with the tube and gerat EQ.

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc 2 роки тому

    Just bought a Sterling Stingray SS-4. The fit, finish, sound & playability exceeded my expectations. oNe LovE from NYC

  • @MartinPeterWhitney
    @MartinPeterWhitney 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid! I'm thinking is it worth getting a Sterling and upgrading it! But then that cane be asked of any budget brand. Is the wood worth the better hardware!

    • @Therealchuckbailey
      @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому +1

      Again man the Sterling Stingrays are great Basses and like you mentioned upgradeable! If you’re not wanting to make a commitment $ wise for the USA model it’s a great choice!

  • @czjolley
    @czjolley 3 роки тому +3

    I have to say that this was the video that did it for me. I've been mulling over whether to buy the SBMM Ray 5 or the EBMM SR Special for over a year. I know that the Sterlings are pretty good, but I have a Ray 34 that I bought new in 2012 and I've never been quite satisfied with it (Build quality is great but the tone was never quite there - not Stingray enough for me). Anyway, I'm a 5 string guy, so it was going to be either the Ray 35 or the Stingray Special. I wasn't sure if I wanted to pay the extra $1,700 for the Special (The HH model). My mind, however, was finally made up after seeing this video. I'm now the proud owner of a 2021 EBMM HH SR Special. Was it expensive? Yes. Was it worth it? Absolutely! I'm very happy with my purchase and I have this video to thank for it. Cheers!

    • @powerforward1955
      @powerforward1955 2 роки тому +2

      Congrats on your Stingray Special. My playing level does not nearly justify a Stingray Special but ever since I first saw one a few years ago, I’ve wanted one. ...don’t know if my playing will ever get to that level but it’s one of the nicer things in life I want so I’m starting a special savings plan for that purchase (4-string version). Enjoy yours & be well. 👍🏾😉

  • @Speedster27
    @Speedster27 Рік тому

    Got a stingray yesterday and immediately played a gig with it and damn even in this economy, worth every penny. Incredible investment

  • @dupajas4671
    @dupajas4671 2 роки тому +6

    A better comparison would be the Ray35 to the older EBMM Stingray 5, and not the Stingray Special 5. The Ray35 is en exact replica of the older Stingray 5 with AlNiCo pickup ( 1987-1991 and 2008 - 2017; the Stingray 5 had a Ceramic pickup with phantom coil from 1992 to 2007). The bridge on the Stingray 5 from 1987 to 2017 was exactly the same as the one on the Ray35 with the extra two side mounting studs. The Stingray Special doesn’t have the studs to save on weight, all the hardware was redesigned to save weight on the Special. The older Stingray’s used Schaller tuning machines, which are fantastic. The Ray35 uses Asian-made no-name tuners. The Stingray Special’s tuning machines are supposedly made by EBMM, but seem to be very reminiscent of the Schaller BM Lightweight tuners, except with a clover instead of a Y paddle.
    The three way switch is Parallel, Series with filter (to sort of mimic single coil), and Series. There is no actual single coil on the AlNiCo (or even the Neo) pickup as it does not have a phantom coil to cancel hum (like the ceramic pickup does - just like the EBMM Sterling Bass has). The Stingray Special 5 is a totally different animal, which is why EBMM tacked the *Special* moniker onto the Stingray name, because it isn’t your Father’s Stingray. But I figured you would research this before doing a 20+ minute comparison with a lot of loose ends.

    • @Minimalist1266
      @Minimalist1266 2 роки тому

      That explains why the Ray35 sounds "classic" to my ears.

    • @roadtonever
      @roadtonever Рік тому

      I think that's the point. Most people seek out the current mainstream variant, not the archetypical one.

    • @coolray3334
      @coolray3334 7 місяців тому

      Wow 😯

  • @Stewr306
    @Stewr306 3 роки тому +2

    Parallel is is the first position, closest to the bridge. Middle position is single coil. Series is the third position, closest to the neck.

    • @Therealchuckbailey
      @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks!

    • @Stewr306
      @Stewr306 3 роки тому

      @@Therealchuckbailey No problem. I’ve owned an Stingray 5 since 2002. My first Musicman and I still have it. BTW, the EBMM Sterling H models have the same exact switching.

  • @bassimprovjams3772
    @bassimprovjams3772 3 роки тому +1

    That 3 way, does do that , front towards neck is series, middle is single, and back is parallel, parallel is classic stinger tone that a 4 string comes with

    • @bassimprovjams3772
      @bassimprovjams3772 3 роки тому

      @@Eugensson is that not what I said?? Lmao 🤣

    • @bassimprovjams3772
      @bassimprovjams3772 3 роки тому +1

      @@Eugensson oh shit I did lmao, I meant parallel 😆😆😆🤘 I have 3 and I can't even say the right thing hahahaha, I was like, what is this dude talking about I didn't even realize I said that, damn, lol thanks for correcting me my man

    • @bassimprovjams3772
      @bassimprovjams3772 3 роки тому +1

      @@Eugensson ok I just fixed that lol tha ks again homie

  • @SoCalGuitarist
    @SoCalGuitarist 3 роки тому +2

    One thing you guys didn’t touch on is resale value. Used Stingrays sell for 1800+ and will continue to go up as the new instrument price does, so they’re a really great investment long term (although why would you ever want to sell it barring financial disaster?), especially if you buy used to begin with. Regarding Musicman vs. Sterling, I have a 5 string Sterling 1H, and a 4 string Musicman, and the differences are enormous in terms of quality of build and materials. I have to use my super wide strap for my chonkyboi Sterling, and it still crushes my shoulder and back after an hour or two, meanwhile my Stingray Special gets a thinner (but nicer) strap yet I can still play for hours on end to the point where my feet get tired before my back or shoulders do. My 5 string is a fine instrument, and is better than any of my other basses in the same price range, the Musicman is just that much better, and from this bassist’s opinion, absolutely worth the cost of admission.

  • @KitBasher1
    @KitBasher1 2 роки тому

    All my music man pickup mods that are on a three way blade are wired series/split/parallel (or series /single/parallel)

  • @lordundhimself1310
    @lordundhimself1310 3 роки тому +5

    How the hell did you know I was considering a 5 string Sterling

  • @bassimprovjams3772
    @bassimprovjams3772 3 роки тому +1

    I heard that on the sterling te 3 way switch is backwards, that could be why he likes it the other way on the stingray, I've never played one tho. American made right here lol

  • @Fougeree
    @Fougeree 8 місяців тому

    If you can’t choose, you have the middle version that is the Sterling 5 Ray35 that costs around 1300$ and does the same work as a Stingray

  • @boomerbassmeme
    @boomerbassmeme 3 роки тому +27

    My 2 cents: Get a Sterling, and a Spector Euro! #teamSpector 😊👍

    • @ZoBass
      @ZoBass 2 роки тому +3

      This is exactly what I'm doing! I have a 2020 Spector Euro, and I'm about to buy a Sterling Ray 5

  • @fairusetv2953
    @fairusetv2953 3 роки тому +9

    Bro sounds like joe Rogan’s little brother

  • @agitatorjr
    @agitatorjr 3 роки тому +1

    Is it that hard to go to the companies' websites to see what the different settings of the selector switch are? I know it's there because I've looked before. Pickup information too.

    • @Therealchuckbailey
      @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому

      No but either way thanks for watching man! I knew there would be plenty of competent people in the comments that would fill in the blanks. Sorry I missed it and I appreciate the feedback just the same!

  • @andrewbecker3700
    @andrewbecker3700 Рік тому +1

    I really believe the differences in body, neck and fretboard woods between models, makes a huge difference. I prefer the alnicoV pickups and light punchy basses. My Sterling has a roasted maple neck and fretboard with nyatoh body. It's outstanding.

    • @Kz_BadzBassist
      @Kz_BadzBassist Рік тому

      What your opinion about Roasted Maple and Rosewood fingerboard?
      It' have a different sound?

    • @andrewbecker3700
      @andrewbecker3700 Рік тому +1

      @@Kz_BadzBassist The fret board for me is more about the feel, and then the durability and looks. As far as hearing a big difference? Not as much. The body and neck woods I believe make a more noticeable difference. Ceramic pickups aren't for me. Too brittle. I'd rather have the warmer alnico magnets and let the rest of the bass dictate the tones.

    • @Kz_BadzBassist
      @Kz_BadzBassist Рік тому

      @@andrewbecker3700 I'm interesting in a Sterling ray 35 HH. A white pearl look so good. But It's have a roasted maple fretboard. Thank you about your opinions. 🙏🏻

  • @nj1255
    @nj1255 Рік тому

    Would be interesting to see a comparison between a pre-EB Stingray and a modern Stingray Classic.

  • @cacadordorio
    @cacadordorio 3 роки тому +29

    You can get a great sound upgrading your sterling pickpup with seymour duncan bass line

    • @crocholiday
      @crocholiday 3 роки тому +7

      I was going to say the same thing. Duncan's MM pickups are $100 + -. Bartolini's or Nordstrand aren't much more. Another $120 and you can swap out the pre-amp and you'll still be less than half a MM. I'm just not sure the rest of the fit and finish = $1200 more. I swapped pickups on a Squire Jaguar bass that I picked up for super cheap. Just the pickups made an immensely noticeable difference in tone quality.

    • @ikergonzalez14
      @ikergonzalez14 2 роки тому

      Thanks for ur comment, I have a sterling ray 34 bass, is a Bartolini a better pickup than my own? Thanks

    • @michael_caz_nyc
      @michael_caz_nyc 2 роки тому +1

      @notmiSCares Agree 100% - Aguilar

    • @dupajas4671
      @dupajas4671 2 роки тому

      @notmiSCares unfortunately, the Aguilar AG5M pickup has 19mm pole spacing and will not line up with the strings on the Ray35 (or even the EBMM basses) because they have 17.5mm string spacing. I don’t know why Aguilar doesn’t offer a pickup for these particular basses, but they don’t. Another issue is that Aguilar’s MM pickups (4 and 5 string versions) come internally wired in Parallel, and DO NOT have 4 pickup leads to be able to be required in Series, which you NEED for these basses. Another reason that the AG5M pickup will not work here.
      Duncan, Nordstrand, Delano…all other pickup manufacturers offer what will work in the Ray35.

  • @braddietzmusic2429
    @braddietzmusic2429 2 роки тому

    The Sterling Ray35 is INCREDIBLE. I have two of them. As compared to the appropriate EBMM, I cannot imagine the EBMM is at least A THOUSAND dollars better than the Sterling Ray35. I think that is the absolutely crucial question.
    With regard to the EBMM Special… that is enough of a different instrument with different features/specs from the Sterling Ray35 that I don’t think it’s really an apples to apples comparison.

  • @oldguyplaysbass6503
    @oldguyplaysbass6503 6 місяців тому

    The MAIN point of those new tuners is the LIGHTER weight .... I love them on my Special 5 HH ... great vid!

  • @t.j.meechan682
    @t.j.meechan682 3 роки тому +6

    I'm a huge Music Man fanboy, and i would love to own either one of these basses. Great video as always.

    • @TheBassChannel
      @TheBassChannel  3 роки тому +2

      They're both great instruments but as with anything else, you just can't beat the real deal.

    • @t.j.meechan682
      @t.j.meechan682 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheBassChannel i agree. I've goat a 4 string EBMM, but i might snatch up 5 string Sterling just because they look amazing and sound extremely close to the USA models. Never a bad thing to have options when it comes to your budget.

    • @Therealchuckbailey
      @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому

      My man you won’t be disappointed. Like I said for what they are it’s a great choice and addition to tonal options

    • @t.j.meechan682
      @t.j.meechan682 3 роки тому +1

      @@Therealchuckbailey i really appreciate the input. Looking like I'm going to pull the trigger

    • @Therealchuckbailey
      @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому +1

      @@t.j.meechan682 sweet dude! Check zzounds brother! Hit me up anytime for anything I can help with!

  • @zprince4120
    @zprince4120 Рік тому

    Does anyone here know a good website to get those US style tuners, electronics, and bridge etc so we can upgrade our Sterlings if we want?

  • @Sumbibebe
    @Sumbibebe 3 роки тому +11

    I bought a EB MM StingRay Special first and a year later I bought a Sterling 25 to be my commuter bass because my EB MM bass was too good for me to learn how to play and have it all used up by the time I’d become a better player.
    Yes, the EB MM is a major treat to play and I can see why it costs that much more than the Sterling, however, the Sterling is a bass that can handle anything you throw at it on stage, in the studio, and on a personal inspirational bases, it’s a keeper.
    I bought the EB MM at Zzounds because of the “Play as you Play” plan. Therefore, the expensive price didn’t hurt my wallet much, at all. Same with the Sterling.
    They both sound great, (the EB MM WAY BETTER), at the end of the day, it’s all about the FINGERS!!!
    The rest is all bla, bla, bla!!!
    I loved your show👍🏽
    Sumbi

  • @KeithCopeland778
    @KeithCopeland778 3 роки тому +3

    I'm thrilled with my Sterling by Music Man Ray 35 and don't see the need to spend a whole lot more for the USA model.

    • @bassimprovjams3772
      @bassimprovjams3772 3 роки тому

      To each is there own, play an American and u won't say the same thing

    • @KeithCopeland778
      @KeithCopeland778 3 роки тому +2

      @@bassimprovjams3772 I have no doubt that the USA model is better, I'm just not willing to pay the extra money for it.

    • @bassimprovjams3772
      @bassimprovjams3772 3 роки тому +1

      @@KeithCopeland778 if u go on reverb u can find great used deals which is still light years better, there are people who need the money and bargin with you, just save up a few hundred more and u will find a great deal. I picked up a black 5H 2011 in Miami for 950. Or go on affirm through reverb and make cheap payments, not being a jerk. I just know the difference and the little extra is well worth it homie🤘

    • @KeithCopeland778
      @KeithCopeland778 Рік тому +2

      @@bassimprovjams3772 I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!!! I recently bought a used 2022 StingRay 5 HH Special!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!! THE DIFFERENCE IS STUNNING!!!! I'm selling my Ray 35!!!

    • @bassimprovjams3772
      @bassimprovjams3772 Рік тому +1

      @@KeithCopeland778 awesome man!! Congrats homie!!! Their unmatched!

  • @mutantbaby1672
    @mutantbaby1672 3 роки тому +2

    Pretty sure the middle position is single coil.

  • @vanpet1993
    @vanpet1993 10 місяців тому

    Those two screws on the sides you have on Sterling bridge are used to prevent saddles from moving sideways. Tbh, Stingray special should have kept them as well...

  • @ZoBass
    @ZoBass 2 роки тому

    Where can I find these tuners from the USA?

  • @stanbrown3278
    @stanbrown3278 Рік тому +2

    I agree with Alex.....cant compare in all honesty because of the styles and technique....one guys is a Rocker the other SMooth Jazz ....75% of the sound comes from the hands..

    • @coolray3334
      @coolray3334 7 місяців тому

      They sound like they’re trying to make the Ernie ball sound better lol

  • @pCeLobster
    @pCeLobster 7 місяців тому +1

    The Sterling sounds better because the electronics are basically like the real pre-Special Stingray. Alnico and ceramic both sound better than neodymium, and the old preamps sounded a lot better than the Special preamp too. The Special sounds like a stock preamp and pickup you'd want to upgrade at some point. With the old EBMM electronics you never even think about upgrading.

  • @CC-hg9un
    @CC-hg9un Рік тому +2

    I've owned two EBMM Stingray 5s over the years but sold them because I needed to free up some cash and I don't have to play 5 string very much. I now own a black Ray35 with matching headstock that I bought used, and I can honestly say that I can't feel much of a difference btwn the EBMM and SBMM. I will say I think the frets are a little smaller on the Ray35. Other than that, they sound, feel, and play the same to me.

  • @Roberto-tc1fd
    @Roberto-tc1fd 3 роки тому +1

    After over a decade of fenders, Just got myself a ray34 to try out new stuff, even with a sansamp I Just cant get THAT click in the tone. Also the on board eq its just too boomy any help?

    • @MarioSouzaLima
      @MarioSouzaLima 3 роки тому

      It is usual to people equalize passive basses in pedals and amps, and sometimes we may go to extremes because passive basses have incredible mids but lack real deep lows or sparkling highs. It is due to the very nature of their high impedance pickups and the fact that we can just cut treble that they have this characteristic mid oriented tone. But when a bass have an active eq system we tend to equalize in the bass more than outside. So the way of thinking eq'ing must change, too. With active basses we should be more subtle on amp eq, the ideia is avoid superimposing boosts in excess.

    • @MarioSouzaLima
      @MarioSouzaLima 3 роки тому

      It is really not a good idea going to extremes outside the bass. It usually doesn't translate well to record gear or sound reinforcement systems and kind of hides the "true nature" of the passive bass, but many people go that way, though, specially after the raise of active basses and synth basses. Many people boost highs and lows more than 12dB in the pedal and may be some more in the amp, that is a way to make a passive bass sound like an active but will not work well if we use them with a bass that can boost more 12dB over those yet saturated preamps. I don't know if this is your case but I had to change the way I was used to set eqs when changed to active basses and this unintentionally also helped me to don't be so (bad) surprised in record sessions or live gigs in bigger venues because hearing without extreme coloration from the amp let me know (and to show) my real tone better.

    • @MarioSouzaLima
      @MarioSouzaLima 3 роки тому +1

      I'm not sure about the missing click, this is so typical to those basses that even their passive versions have them, too. But it is also related to how old your strings are and how low your bass action is set. Don't expect much treble from 3 month old strings and the clanck sound is the strings hitting hard the frets, so the strings must have to be set low enough to produce those noises. Yes, all those string and finger noises will come too, they doesn't apear that much when playing among other instruments but can be distractive alone in a pratice room. The secret is find the sweat spot that matches how low the strings are and how hard you hit the strings and also develop good string damping technique to control the noise excess without having to cut to much treble.

    • @stevengregory7708
      @stevengregory7708 3 роки тому

      Try stainless steel strings and a lighter gauge

  • @Therealchuckbailey
    @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому +10

    Just want to say thanks again for having me on the demo. I know some details weren’t 100% covered and we knew you guys would have the info to do the rest of what we missed justice! We got lots more videos planned! Thanks again everyone and let me know what else you would like to see!

    • @carpediemarts705
      @carpediemarts705 3 роки тому +1

      I misread this. I swore I saw Chuck Rainey. Which the Bass Channel might be lining up for behind the scenes as we speak.

    • @Therealchuckbailey
      @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому

      @@carpediemarts705 we got a budget for Chuck Mangione.... on CD.... used.... from the second hand store. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @Super_Saiyen_Potato
    @Super_Saiyen_Potato 9 місяців тому

    sounds like your stingrays action is lower too, pretty clicky

  • @MrGrsrrt
    @MrGrsrrt Рік тому +1

    "Do you have the specs?" "No". End of the comparison

  • @timseitz199
    @timseitz199 3 роки тому +3

    Going from the 6 bolt pattern to the 5 bolt pattern wasn't a "sacrifice" for the sculpting. It was to improve the access to the higher frets making it easier to play up and down the full fretboard.

  • @KitBasher1
    @KitBasher1 2 роки тому

    I have a pile of the old OLP basses, all five string. I modded them all to be fretless with epoxy resin/superglue fingerboards. I’ve been removing the preamps, just using the blade switch and a master volume push/pull tone pot. My two Tony Levin models still have the stock preamps and alnico coil pickups, but I’ve added the blade switch coil tap mod.

  • @sebasszebass4154
    @sebasszebass4154 3 роки тому

    This has to be sponsored by PBS because it’s public utility !

  • @DimebagDarrenLowe
    @DimebagDarrenLowe 2 роки тому

    Should have been Music Man vs Stingray vs OLP
    I have a OLP MM5 with 15mm string spacing and custom made Nordstrand pickups.

  • @jerometene
    @jerometene 2 роки тому +1

    Sterling sounds more "beefy & thick" to me & that's what I like! I have both also and my Ernie Ball 'feels' better but when playing on my live shows, I like my Sterling sound better...😎

    • @oteiri78
      @oteiri78 7 місяців тому

      It's not because of the bass. They just can't play the bass so that the sound would actually be smooth and warm. More volume and much softer touch. When you got active pickups that's what you do.

  • @coolray3334
    @coolray3334 7 місяців тому +1

    The Sterling sounds better and warmer to me 😮

  • @CheckDaClaws
    @CheckDaClaws 3 роки тому +2

    The Ray 35 sounds a lot beefier to me

  • @HorseWaterDrink
    @HorseWaterDrink 3 роки тому +7

    So much fret buzz . Clank Clank Clank.

    • @firemarshal2629
      @firemarshal2629 3 роки тому +3

      The world awaits your review

    • @TFEnright5
      @TFEnright5 3 роки тому

      I feel the same way. I just don’t like the sound of a lot of fret buzz. It’s hard to tell how good a bass sounds when all you can hear is the fret buzz.

    • @ST-ry7lr
      @ST-ry7lr 6 місяців тому

      Agreed. Combined with Chris' heavy hitting the strings, I'd be inclined to favor the sound of the Sterling.

  • @gmilanovc
    @gmilanovc Рік тому +1

    Joe Rogan played bass guitar so well his hair came back 👏

  • @Jackal_Blitz
    @Jackal_Blitz 3 роки тому +3

    The biggest difference I hear is in the highs. The Sterling just sounds scratchier and rougher than the Stingray to me. I appreciate the more glassy, clear highs from the Stingray.

  • @simons.2948
    @simons.2948 Рік тому

    I have a Sterling Ray34 HH 2022 model & it sounds fantastic & plays really well, 1260 quid against 3000. No brainier for me, Sterling pound for pound better value. Although if money no object would have got US version

  • @mtdusmc9437
    @mtdusmc9437 Місяць тому

    I have a EBMM Stingray and a SBMM Stingray. There is a difference between the two (nut, neck finish, tuners), but there is not $2000 bucks difference. BTW, you are not an expert if you didn't know who Zzounds was.

  • @michaelmacisco2566
    @michaelmacisco2566 3 роки тому +3

    Chuck rules ! Psyched to see this

  • @Steve-br7wt
    @Steve-br7wt 3 роки тому

    Wire the SBMM in parallel and save 1500

  • @rhoodj
    @rhoodj 3 роки тому

    What is the difference: Sterling by Music Man StingRay5 HH vs stingray35HH

    • @JVMC_ZR1
      @JVMC_ZR1 3 роки тому

      Sterling is made in Indonesia, and Musicman is made in America. Usually the Indonesia models are made with cheaper woods and preamps.

  • @Infectedbyevil
    @Infectedbyevil 3 роки тому +1

    Sold my HH music man, it has not powerful enough B strings if I compare to my 3 other 5 string basses. Warwick, spector , and ltd Deluxe B strings is much more better.

    • @Eugensson
      @Eugensson 3 роки тому

      Yeah. I love the tone of Stingray. But their B string is kinda weak.

  • @eldiabloramon
    @eldiabloramon Рік тому

    I pretty much only play sterling stingray5

  • @mmdev0
    @mmdev0 Рік тому

    The Sterling pickup is ceramic.

  • @Meypelnek
    @Meypelnek 2 роки тому

    You may want to review the EBMM SR5 manual for what the lever switch positions indicate, before you make a video speculating about the obvious.

  • @tombridges4029
    @tombridges4029 2 місяці тому

    The switch is reversed on them as well

  • @alexskibicki2262
    @alexskibicki2262 3 роки тому +1

    Cool comparison...to my ears, the music man has a brighter sound while the sterling has a warmer sound. despite that, they both have that punch that sting ray basses are known for. I've tried out a sterling sub ray 5 about a year ago and I do dig how it sounds. I was thinking about getting one sometime in the future. that or any other bass that has a music man styled pickup like the schecter stiletto stealth. I've also tried out that bass and I was impressed with how it sounds. so that's another bass I was considering to buy. on another note, I've always thought that zzounds was pronounced "z-zounds", but since you mentioned that website and how you pronounced it, I now know it's actually pronounced "zounds". I use to shop there. they provide good services. anywho, great comparison on these basses.

    • @caseypayne5138
      @caseypayne5138 3 роки тому +2

      I think more than anything, you're hearing the difference between Alnico on the EBMM (bright) and Ceramic on the SBMM (warm).
      The one thing about these reviews and demos that really bugs me is that it's 100% bedroom tone with just the bass on its own.
      The moment that bass gets in a mix, whether on a recording or live, everthing above 5-6 kHz is going to be LPF'd so a lot of that sparkle and clank goes bye-bye. If the audio engineer doesn't like clacky sounds, that gets cut too. Everything below the bass' lowest note frequency gets HPF'd, so bye bye boom. The mids get tweaked a whole bunch to blend in or cut through depending on what the song needs, so about 80% of what you hear in bedroom tone from solo demos doesn't actually matter in the end when the bass is featured in an actual song.
      I know it's probably a bit more work, but I really wish more demos would show off the bass in a full band mix with drums, guitar, keys, and vocals to show how the bass ACTUALLY sounds in the kind of setting you'd be using it in.

    • @roadtonever
      @roadtonever Рік тому

      ​@@caseypayne5138 Or played over a drumbeat at the very least.

    • @alexskibicki2262
      @alexskibicki2262 Рік тому

      That’s true. That would explain how each of these basses has a different tone. Personally I’m a huge fan of ceramic pickups. I’ve always like how warm and punchy these pickups sounds. Plus I really like how stringray basses sounds with effects like distortion and chorus. It’s sounds absolutely killer with distortion and it sounds really beautiful with chorus. Anywho, thanks for the clarifications on the tones on these basses.

  • @PhantomPhaze
    @PhantomPhaze 2 роки тому +2

    this guy sounds like Joe Rogan

    • @altairiel6335
      @altairiel6335 2 роки тому

      It's spot on, just need him to ask about DMT

  • @bcumpa
    @bcumpa 29 днів тому

    MusicMan definitely sounds better, but I don't know if it makes up for the $2,000 difference between the Sterling By MusicMan

  • @user-jd4sp1gf3e
    @user-jd4sp1gf3e 4 місяці тому +1

    It’s 10x the cost🤷🏻‍♂️ Screw that

  • @boomboxtv4082
    @boomboxtv4082 2 роки тому +1

    When it comes to sound
    Yes, Sterling ray34/35 is close to a Musicman specially If you are just a beginner like me with an untrained ear.
    But when it comes to feel it doesn't compare.
    At the music store I picked up the cheapest MM and the most expensive Sterling
    Personally MM felt much much better
    The wood,knobs,tunners,electronics. everything is supreme.
    But it was going to be my second bass (first one being a Ray4)
    I'm such a MM fan but I just don't feel like expending more than 2000$ being a 6 months old bassist
    And like a said the Ray35 is close in sound(Personally) and for half the price I ended up buying it and I'm really happy with my purchase.
    Once I make my 900$dlls bass sound like a 2000$ I'll buy a MM that's what keeps me motivated to practice for hours on a daily basis.

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa 3 роки тому +4

    I'm lucky enough in life that I've owned only US made StingRays and Fenders and German made Warwicks. Yes, there is a huge difference in quality, and there is also a difference in sound. However, that does not mean that the Sterling Ray35 is not a competent instrument that sounds great and is worth the money.

    • @Therealchuckbailey
      @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely true! Which is why I bought mine and said in the video it’s still a solid choice and option! Thanks!

    • @KeithCopeland778
      @KeithCopeland778 3 роки тому +1

      I agree. Even though the USA Stingray is a serious upgrade, my Ray 35 is no joke and has served me well. Sterling by Music Man hit a grand slam with the Ray 34 and 35 basses!

    • @Therealchuckbailey
      @Therealchuckbailey 3 роки тому +1

      @@KeithCopeland778 absolutely true

  • @danformiga9968
    @danformiga9968 3 роки тому +1

    Demm! 3:33 kkkkkkk

  • @CurtisBernard
    @CurtisBernard 3 роки тому +6

    I thought the Sterling killed the American

  • @tigerscott2966
    @tigerscott2966 2 роки тому +1

    If I'm heading into the studio to record or do a live show, the Stingray is a no brainer. If I'm an intermediate player, the Sterling works better for the budget and you can upgrade it too. Thanks.

  • @Justwantpeacelove
    @Justwantpeacelove 2 роки тому

    Bro Has a very similar voice to joe rogan hahah! Great review!

    • @TheBassChannel
      @TheBassChannel  2 роки тому +1

      I’m still waiting for Rumble to send me an offer…

  • @zerofret4207
    @zerofret4207 9 місяців тому

    A washtub out of the trash sound good played through Darkglass.

  • @grohu
    @grohu 3 роки тому +3

    Sterling with a treble 80%, middle 65%,bass 55%. Is a Musicman killer. I have played in store, and on blind test Sterling won. 50%is a central position of pot.

  • @blee3621
    @blee3621 2 роки тому

    Twist: in the paid version of the video they admit they prefer the cheaper one so your $5 subscription saves you $1,000

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 2 роки тому

      Just cause they prefer it doesn't mean you will.

    • @blee3621
      @blee3621 2 роки тому

      @@ileutur6863 no doubt. But I’m actually getting a Ray5. :)

  • @christophercheney1006
    @christophercheney1006 3 роки тому +1

    My lightest ,"Frankentstein" P-Bass is the best sounding one

  • @torreswindowcleaningmemo8210

    Spector 👌✅️✅️✅️

  • @tombridges4029
    @tombridges4029 2 місяці тому

    Sterling is more agressive. Les defined poor tuners but greqt bass for the price the usa well its premium all the way. And a more even tone less agressive alos light weigjt and stainless steel frets and compensated nut

  • @bassimprovjams3772
    @bassimprovjams3772 3 роки тому +1

    I see stingray i click and subscribe 😁🤘

  • @keatsbass
    @keatsbass 3 роки тому +1

    I preferred the MusicMan when Chris was playing it and I preferred the Sterling when Chris was playing that. I think Chucks preffered tones were just a little dark and muddy for me.

  • @bassimprovjams3772
    @bassimprovjams3772 3 роки тому +2

    You go on reverb and get a used American made, and your still getting one for a way better deal, you can find a killer stingray on reverb for 1000. Just look and bargain with someone who needs to sell it. You will have a bass that u want to keep for life vs, a bass that u will want to see and have no resale value to, then you actually wasted 900 bucks for a bass u are unhappy with. Just get the stingray, trust me. I have 4 and a 5th will b soon.

    • @rhoodj
      @rhoodj 3 роки тому

      What is the difference: Sterling by Music Man StingRay5 HH vs Sterling stingray35HH

  • @Firedancer100
    @Firedancer100 3 роки тому +1

    Ethereum 🎸

  • @firemarshal2629
    @firemarshal2629 Рік тому

    Sound the same to me🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @farisfuad1150
    @farisfuad1150 2 роки тому

    Ray35 sounds decent but it's definitely missing the signature burp

  • @albundy2239
    @albundy2239 3 роки тому +2

    Yeah great, another Stingray video. Like I didn't have GAS already... 😅

  • @BillyTheKidsGhost
    @BillyTheKidsGhost Місяць тому

    Just go for sterling.

  • @Aloshi19
    @Aloshi19 3 роки тому +3

    Hey... I thought what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.....
    Jk, u guys did a good job

  • @FiveStringCommando
    @FiveStringCommando 3 роки тому +3

    Zzounds deserves a shoutout. My Jaguar bass and my Jazzmaster both came from them. Probably gonna grab a Baritone from them soon, too.

    • @BassRacerx
      @BassRacerx 3 роки тому

      got my LTD B405 from Zzounds way back in 2005 was about $300 less than any other website!

  • @gondelio
    @gondelio 3 роки тому +2

    Too many strings...
    That yes, that iconic musicman sound!

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 3 роки тому +2

      How to spot a boomer bass player in 3 simple words

  • @gazt445
    @gazt445 9 місяців тому +2

    Far too much talk, more playing, cmon!